No Retro for CFD?
A couple comments late last week (rumors as of now):
- City just told cfd they have no money for retro , sorry .
- Many Chicago Fire Fighters are being told they WILL NOT be paid retroactive pay going back to 2021. The reason? The city is saying THEY ARE BROKE. WTF?
Again, rumors. But a couple points:
- if the City is refusing to abide by the negotiated Contract, wouldn't that void out all sorts of stuff....like prohibitions on job actions and ::cough cough:: strikes?
- the City is also refusing to pay a court ordered judgement in favor of the PBPA regarding VRI money owed that is racking up thousands, perhaps millions in interest and penalties....what party was it screaming about obeying court orders just a few months ago?
And we certainly hope that some people in the different unions are looking into this historical precedent from north of the border:
Wallace Edwards' 13-year war to collect a debt from the Soviet Union is over. The Rusians have surrendered. Edwards, head of Waltham Press Ltd., won a 1973 court judgment against the Soviet government for a $26,000 printing job he performed for it during the Expo '67 World's Fair, but the Soviets refused to pay.
Until Thursday, that is. Assailed by Edwards' seizure of a Soviet ship in Toronto harbor and his assault on the Russian Embassy's operating funds, the Soviets have agreed to settle the debt.
After attempting to stiff the Canadian printer for tens of thousands of dollars, the enterprising tradesman sued, won a judgement against the Soviet Union, and had the sheriffs seize a nearly 600-foot freighter valued in the tens of millions until the commies came up with his money.
We would be amused beyond measure should the CFD or the PBPA get a lien against some Chicago properties, like the Bean or the Picasso or maybe portions of the CTA or an entire airport, and then put it up for sale unless Conehead came up with the money owed.
We can always hope.
Labels: fire fighters, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
88 Comments:
But....But....what about the ..."new comers"...who'll pay for them ? ? ?
Don’t forget, the city also said no to paying the sgts, LT’s and Capts retro for the me too from the FOP. the three unions filed a lawsuit two weeks ago to force the city to pay.
The police still have no contract. When do we get to strike?
Ideas for firefighters:
1. Go into court to get a wage assignment on conehead, the 50 thieves, the fire commissioner, etc., etc.. They probably won’t get one, but the news should be a national embarrassment for this shit hole Chicago.
2. Ask Trump to not pay any federal money to the city for anything until the city pays the smoke eaters. I think Trump would jump on the opportunity to call conehead & fatso incompetent and say they run a shit hole. Everybody loves the FF. Again national embarrassment
3. Ask a few BOBers to ‘steal’ a few fire trucks simultaneously, parking them in the burbs with for sale signs with the mayor’s phone number. National attention. I’m sure the BOBers would be proud to do this.
4. Setup a class action Fund Me account for the amount owed. When the city finally pays donate the $ to Fire Memorial (is there one) or Children’s Hospital.
5. TV news says your equipment is damaged. Refuse to use anything that will hurt you or kill you.
Unless the court freezes city bank accounts or holds city leaders in contempt of court they essentially can tell CFD and CPD unions to eat a dick. This is what a dying city looks like, stiffing their first responders. Don’t get attached to this job at this point just disappointment.
The pbpa filed suit over the retro raises not given to supervisors two years ago. The city decided to ignore the contract and arbitration award.
If a viable threat was made to put a lien on Chicago properties, I guarantee the city would magically find the money to pay up the VRI issue and to pay CFD. No way the city could afford to let a threat like that go public.
The city is broke. Government unions are the reason.
You don’t get a retro cause it’s all going to the illegals. And raise taxes for us to give more to them also. And of course a small part for midnight basketball
Off Topic: MASS shooting number 2 occurred at North and Lorel just before midnight. Thanks Brandon.
Wow!!! The city better fast track that retro pay. The only way I will accept not getting my back pay is for BJ and his entire staff and all aldermen take a 50% pay cut immediately until the budget is fixed 🤬🤬
My backpay is non negotiable
Pay me now
Cancelled the cancelled too so no o t.
No money? Not surprising seeing these idiots spent at least a billion dollars on Venezuelans.
That’s a brilliant idea!
Taking ownership of an asset which generates revenue until the debt is paid. Makes sense to me.
Can you imagine if the ambulances striked? CFD can buckle this city moreso than the commie teacher union with all their demands & strikes. They get whatever they want. Do the same. You are owed that money. Millions of dollars spent on illegals. Democrat voters are a funny bunch
The PBPA had nothing to do with the VRI lawsuit. It was officers and supervisors who independently worked with an attorney. Both unions were not involved nor interested, now they are acting like they care.
If CFD was dumb enough to negotiate a contract with the raises loaded on the back-end, and/or with zeroes for the first year or 2, then that’s on them.
Remember this is money owed that the city sat on for years and made interest on. They don't give you interest on your money they owe you when they decide to pay it.
TRUE. Then Sgts PBPA President Paul Biolla refused to file the grievance. A sergeant complained to the PBPA in Springfield and the grievance/lawsuit prevailed.
Needs to cut services and cut workforce by 30 percent. City has plenty of money, but have a spending problem.
No pet projects, paying ILLEGALS and theft by politician is the reason
Read the blog, you'll find a lot of you are ...
We're broke. No. Go find another job.
They should have went into teaching
The national FF unions support ALL leftist democrats. So they got what they voted for.
Retired moved to Texas seven years ago. Apparently Houstons firemen were awarded a judgement against the city for back pay which they refused to pay for about ten years. The city recently paid them their money with the interest. I'm sure the checks were pretty sizable....
Brandon is why the city is broke more than any other reason.
It’s not government unions, it’s mismanagement of money by politicians!
So the city is building all these homes on the west side with non union contractors. This is verified 100%. New homes starting this week in 010. Funny how this is a Union Democrat City. Inside deals ???? Why not use Union? Also you got money to build homes for ppl that don’t work? Need doge to take a peak at all this corruption and back door deals
Not true there have always been unions here. It’s just poor mismanagement by the city
Fuck you, pay me
That is 100%. Starts with this and continues to degrade until the pension checks bounce.
F- the retro, how about the court ordered contributions to the pension thay never went in. They should be in court every secont of the day until this money is paid! Better to blow it off and go car shopping on the member back.
They reluctantly filed. These unions are all useless.
How about these unions figure out an insurance option for members who are maxed out and under 55. No reason that FOP national can't find us a plan with a reasonable rate.
Part of the reason. But let's start with exorbitant entitlement programs and generational welfare. Remind me again how much was siphoned off for illegals to suckle!
Billion dollars to illegals you mean
City dont need 36,000 employees to run the city. Police and fire are 15,000 so 21,000 to make city run? Could prob do with half that. Same with CPS, county, City college, state with 65,000 employees. Every level of government bloated with patronage jobs that are bankrupting the system. Endless taxes and government long term and short term debt that leads to endless stress on taxpayers.
Just to be clear: the city is not broke. There is plenty of revenue coming into the city coffers. In 2024, the City brought in over $16 billion in revenue. Their expenses simply exceed the revenue. The options are to increase revenue (more taxes, fees, fines, licenses, etc.) or reduce expenses.
The CFD will get retro. CPD Sgt. Union still,waiting for a big check when city closed gap between Detectives and Sergeants.
I heard the firehouses are resorting to food pantries to stock their cupboards. No more firehouse chili, Russian Royal caviar, New York strips and rock lobster tails. Peanut butter and jelly on days old discounted bread and jailhouse baloney sandwiches for the smoke eaters. And their cable for their billboard flat screens are a thing of the past. That's when they are working. Its a sad state of affairs when the failing CTU teachers are going on cruises to the Monte Carlo, Maldives, Bora Bora, etc. living the high life after soaking the Cook County property taxpayers for all their personal opulence. Police and fire are told to sacrifice. Teachers manipulate the mayor for mo money, mo money. And assistance to illegal alien migrants. Equity. Inclusion. And then there's the daily struggle for survival by beaten down police and fire.
The lawsuit is over the 5% me too raise for 2025. Not retro.
Where is the lying media. No interest, no negative publicity. Only media cover ups and full support to the Democrat ruination of this broken city.
Not sticking up for Mayor here. But there are a dozen articles stating that the new contact includes back pay. “Johnson said the city has budgeted for the back pay included in the contract. It's unclear exactly how much the back pay and raises will cost, but the total will undoubtedly reach the hundreds of millions.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-firefighters-union-tentative-contract-agreement-2025/
They don’t deserve me too. Those clowns have ruined every contact negotiation.
Did your cat tell you that? Because you chose a job flipping burgers vs a union job? Clown
Mayor Johnson should collude with the private sector red light and speed camera vendors and install 100 or so additional cameras or so to generate revenues allocated to pay down payroll debts. Once payroll gets paid, justify them forever surveillance cameras active making cash money to repair and replace outdated or rusted beyond repair fire rigs. This too is a public safety crisis. Money is not the issue but rather the intestinal fortitude of the people's elected representative alderpersons to approve a permanent common sense funding approach to getting critical public safety shortfall complexities resolved. Enact annual exponentially increasing 911 taxes or hike insanely expensive life saving public ambulance service fees collected for the city on behalf of a private third party for profit company. Taxes, cameras fines and service fees are just essential cash cow funding mechanisms never going away. Both for private for profit city vendors and the city itself.
These could be events that push the city into bankruptcy. Imagine (1) big judgments for CFD and CPD members based on back pay, (2) a resulting bond rating downgrade (thanks governor Fatso!) and then (3) a recession which seizes up the bond markets, particularly the junk bond status that the city will have fallen into. Boom. Insolvent. Done.
Really, because I distinctly recall millions being funneled to support the illegals.
Theres non left, Daley Stole them all.
Right after Chicago elects a republican mayor lol
Both our dumb ass unions ALWAYS get our raises back loaded to avoid the City having to pay even larger retro checks
This is bullsh*t! I think a strongly worded letter demanding payment should be written to the city! Ask JCat what should included LMBO
And now that the city didn’t tell anyone there was no cancellations for today I hope the city goes up for grabs tonight. Medical next time and every time they cancel
Thank you for all the comments. Now tell me why Daley sold off every asset he could to balance the budget.
The check's on the way, maybe Monday, watch your mail box
165k deposit each firefighter.
Sense a few of the "Violence Interupters" are going to jail maybe the city could use that money to pay some of their bills.
Not that easy. A city in Illinois cannot declare bankruptcy without the permission of the state legislature. I suspect the state will appoint an administrator before that happens.
The rumors are relentless.
The facts are that the city has the money.
They are just playing their games like they always do.
They are going to wait till the 70th or so day after the city votes to ratifiy the contract.
It's also well known that the city hates president clearly of local 2.
Let's at least wait til ratification of the contract. And about 70 days thereafter.
Don't
be retarded like him^^^
Already overpaid and most have side gigs suck it up buttercup or quit
A contract is a legally binding contract. If it was promised, signed, then it is owed. No different than signing a baseball player or signing for a home. How the illegals are getting benefits, health care, food, shelter, one has to wonder.
Good luck. Retired union member.
Stop believing this non sense. Retro was built into the contract, google BJ, that clown even said it to the press.
Who cares! Let them play with their hoses for extra money.
I live in 010. Where are these new “city houses” at?
we are now witnessing a third world banana replublic city
I just saw Stacie Johnson's, Chicago's First Lady's $2,200 high back chair and $4,400 desk at a pawn shop on Madison. Must have secured a loan to pay theys water bill.
CFD didn’t even negotiate that. The mediator gave that and said it’s what CPD got, end of story.
I retired 21 years ago in a buyout from the city. Daley refused to give the retirees their back pay and the unions agreed, mumbles said the city couldn't afford it. Please..... he also paid all our vacation and holidays and time due out of grade at a loss of about 3.50 an hour times 33 days lost. Union was useless, members filed suit and won about 15 years ago. City appealed and the city is refusing to pay. So I lost 4500.00 in backpack plus whatever hourly shortage is due. Still waiting. If we do get paid there's interest on that settlement, would have been cheaper to just pay. Business doesn't kick the can down the road but these democrats sure do. How many mayor's ago did they cheat us ? Surprisingly they always find instant millions for criminals shot by the popo. Maybe we should have had lovey and lovey as a lawyer and cut the aldertheives into the action. Gawd I hate these peoples.
Sadly bankruptcy is the end game.
Wasteful spending, double pensions, and redundant positions.
Why don’t you steal a fire truck genius.
Slap a lien on city hall !
Mayor: yes citizens, right after I gets my hair did, I will order a review of the process in which the city should try to look into what has happened so I can then give a stupid speech about what I have no idea what I am talking about
Frenchy Martin Says:::
This is bullshit. City, County, and State Politicians THROW Money at Illegals, yet are unable to take care of those who protect and serve everyone. How can ANYBODY vote for the political party in charge, ever again? Now excuse me, I am at work and need to get back to sleep
They didn’t say no - they just didn’t paid
Illegals don't need no stinking union....
I'm trying to shed a tear for you but sadly I'm all out.
Never going to happen.
Democrats are corrupt bankrupters of this broken city.
No retro? So a 20% raise for each year of the contract? Deal!
Chicago is the 9th largest economy in the world for a city. Plenty of money, uts the fraud, illegals, payoffs and everything else. Why pay first responders they don’t vote for them anyways
The cfd will be like the cpd soon! If i was a FF id go to a slow spot or go somewhere that makes OT (airport)$$! Why hurt yourself or worse for this communist leadership! Wake up !
Publishers Clearing House’s bankruptcy means ‘forever’ winners will no longer get paid
right.....go sell all the empty school buildings
CFD is getting in car cameras for all of their fire apparatus and ambulances. Same systems as we have, log in every tour, automatically records when lights are on, mic’s must be in the rigs. City is writing up the policy now and is ready to sign a $550,000 contact for installation and maintenance.
Relax hardo, we can’t all pass our time on the medical and cry about cancelled weekends
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