Seems Like a Great Idea!
The maximum age for a starting Chicago police officer or firefighter would rise from 40 to 55 under a controversial proposal to bolster hiring that was dismissed by union leaders as impractical.
Ald. Gilbert Villegas (36th), chair of the City’s Council’s Committee on Economic and Capital Development, acknowledged that policing and firefighting are, for the most part, a young person’s game.
But in pushing the proposal, he argues there are still plenty of jobs, particularly in policing, that could be performed by rookies in their 50s.
Seriously?
“When you talk about Lollapalooza, you’re not dealing with gangbangers and drug dealers,” Villegas said. “There’ll be occasional fights that break out, but it’s not like you’re going into a gang-infested area or trying to break up a drug deal.”
“Crowds go there to have fun. Alcohol can be the fuel that starts something,” Villegas added. “But controlling rowdy crowds is something definitely a senior police officer could handle. That would allow younger police officers to get into these busy districts where crime is occurring and handle those.”
And a young, twenty-something (fueled by alcohol and assorted designer drugs) running up against a senior citizen (with all the usual wear-and-tear on an old body) is a recipe for disaster.
Not to mention that the kids will have a bunch more seniority on the seniors and therefore, will be bidding off the undesirable watches and out of the crappy districts far quicker than a senior citizen will be able to.
This is just dumb.
Maybe hire senior citizens for the house mouse jobs and get able-bodied armed secretaries out on the street for the jobs they were hired to do?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
66 Comments:
Hahaha. But I’m 51 years old.. I go to bed at 10pm and I need to work days.. sorry old man, you’ve got a year on, you’re on midnights and that 28 year old kid with 5 years on gets afternoons because of something called seniority. These people live in an alternate universe.
My 55 year old PPO is doing 80 and out. Not staying till 85.
I entered the Academy in the late Nineties, before there was an age limit. There were cadets in their mid fifties in my class. I’m not sure how some of them managed to pass the physical qualifications – even with the age adjustment - but I’m pretty sure those in charge let certain things slide. And why would the city want to spend all that money training a 55-year-old when they only can work 10 years, then would have to retire at 65? Or would they change the mandatory retirement age as well? Dumb idea all around.
They did it in the 90s. In all honesty, they don’t want police doing anything like physically defending themselves or chasing on foot, so it’s no different than them hiring hundreds of 5 foot tall, 100 pound females. It all works out great until you actually do need police to physically defend themselves or chase someone on foot.
So they’re going to give older cops without seniority priority spots? Ageism goes both ways.
Do the math on this brain fart.
Not one of the proposed hires will live to retire.
Not one.
We Had 2 people in their 50’s in my homeroom. Well back in the day
Not 42. Or 45. But 55. Yeah that makes perfect sense
There’s guys on the job in their mid 40s early 50s who are more fit than some of these obese midgets that are currently on the street now. Have one standard fitness test no matter the age, whoever can pass it, gets the job. Why’s it have to be so complicated?
You know. There’s no age limits to be hired as a CFD paramedic. Also silly as that’s the hardest physically most demanding job in the city. Recently they hired a 59/female. They called for an Ambo once a week while she was in the academy they pushed her through then she was assigned to a busy Ambo on the southeast side and she did a few shifts now she’s on the medical indefinitely.
Gee. What can possibly go wrong?
And this is why the feds have a mandatory retirement age of 57. Hell I first started feeling it at 38 when I was being outrun by a young street doper...and I worked out and jogged regularly.
The statements made by Ald Villegas are delusional to say the least. He needs to view some of the videos posted here and on other numerous sites where it might take 5 young strong coppers to bring one thug to the ground and then struggle to handcuff him. We are finding out more and more politicians are incompetent and have no common sense. We need testing for these people prior to them filing to be a candidate for any public office. Chicago, Cook County and Illinois politicians are by far the biggest disgrace in the nation.
Amazing how dense an alderman can be.
House mice usually don't want to be the police. Its only pretend for them.
I know , get rid of the stupid useless college degree outright , a degree in political science or ART doesn’t make you a good cop . It’s only waived with three security or customer service experience now
Hiring surge ?? they’re nickel and diming classes right now , and posting pics like they’re hiring left and right lol .
Does this idiot realize that ANY concert or festival occurring in Chicago that the organizers need to hire their own security inside the venue and CPD handles the outer perimeter?
I think it’s a great idea.
But at 55 I retired from CPD. I was tired of the BS of the Department. The lack of support from the City. The fact media always state police shot and killed a subject that allegedly had a gun? The media refuses to identify any offenders even if they are on video committing the crime? The facts the city wasted its money paying for immigrants. And now needs to find money just to keep the lights on? Now hire a 55 year old. And see how much productivity they bring to the table? Or how much time they spend on the medical?
Hire a 55 year old to be the police is just an insane joke. But look who has this bright idea……and you can see why it’s a joke!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJFoyl-G5g
Says it all, bring back the retired coppers if they wanna come back pay them well the experience they have would be monumental for this police department. God bless the police.
This is great!!! now we can retire at age and then come back on as a recruit for another paycheck.
The city shut down the Rehire program, which capped at 50. Is some retired big boss coming back, but avoiding the Rehire program (cause fuck all Rehires, amirite?) to get a bigger boss job?
The best and brightest in the hallowed halls of government. Shitcago style.
Retired at age 54 with 32 years on the job. I worked the street. You would have to be insane to start at 55.
Lunacy
All fun and games Ald. VillegASS until the “younger police officers to get into these busy districts where crime is occurring and handle those” have to encounter a shag wearing piece of shit gang banger, shoot him and then are screaming about the testosterone levels of said “young officer.”
OH God, The hidden gems of HQ and all the front office dollies of every district work the streets? Back to the Watches?? Will never happen. Such a waste of manpower to put these people thru the academy to basically push paper and do NOTHING.
start hiring retired Officers at 35.00 an hour to work all the inside jobs in Districts and the golden tower. No benefits at all (no sick days, vacation, insurance nothing). Only allowed to work 24 hours max a week ( no overtime)
You could put 3000 more police on the street. Save the taxpayer by avoiding training for an office job.
What's the difference? Most of us are just scarecrows with birds sitting on us.
"Seems Like a Great Idea" - I thought this was from The Onion.
The 55+ crowd would prolly be less inclined to commit felonies (in any state(s)), rack-up warrants, or start hi-jakkin cars ...
.:)
Florida and I C E is still hiring with handsome bonuses. F pritzger and johnson and Illinois, most corruption in the USA.
One of his constituents over 50 wants to be the police
there was one guy in the academy who had to retire, mandatorily, with less than a year on the job. Said he did it because he always wanted to be the police.
State law; you can’t be a fireman on your 63rd birthday .
Back in the early 2000s there was recruit that was up in years. He passed the physical and made it through the academy. Went to 007 for his field training. But he hit the age limit about halfway through the field training and was mandatory retired. The city had to hire him because he was qualified until he was no longer qualified.
I’m out at 50 with 27 years on. You can keep this job, I’m done.
CPD is looking to hire civilian trainers. Retired CPD officers should sign up to share all that valuable wisdom of working less, abusing the medical and not knowing how to write a report.
Hire anyone. Third tier pension. They pay 25% from each check.
Cadets?
I got on at 38! Still in decent shape. Almost 23 years with 2.5 to go. Will be 63 and a few months with 25 years on with a D2A pension bump when I go. On street while time and starting to feel it. Cars are getting smaller and smaller and we have to wear more and more crap.
Please, any reasonably in shape 55 year old man could knock any woman into next week without dropping his sandwich during lunch hour.
CPD Seniors Club.
$35 an hour, fuck you
I participated in operation blue scarecrow for many years.
Hahahahha so true
One of my FTO's had to be at least 80. The grips were loose on his revolver.
I retired at 51 and I felt the ravages of time. I'm 60 now and I know there is no way...no way! I ride my bicycle daily, but man, no way! I wouldn't come back for twice as much money.
If they raise the age to 100, there will be some guy on who stays until they make him retire. They should give out a Centurian ribbon for staying that long.
Collecting an $80k+ check to sit on her (old) ass at home.
Genius move!
Let me figure out this math:
54 and 32….
So you stuck around for what?
55 for the medical, so you missed out on that. You could have walked at 51/52 when you maxed out, since you didn’t want the medical.
Unless the wife’s medical just became great, or you were making awesome OT.
Retired CPD for part time sworn assignment. Desperate times call for desperate measures…
Frenchy Martin Says:
Retired CFD too, they can even out-sleep on-duty CFD Personnel !
The city is better off getting rid of the college requirement for Police Officer job!
You do NOT need a college degree to write tickets!
In the early 1990's all you needed was a high school diploma and the talent pool was much better than it is today and we all are retiring now!
55 year old ppo being taught by some 30 year old pooch who is the Dunkin Donuts police. Last I heard only about 20 wheel gunners are left. They would have to have about 35 years on the job.
This is true. A lot of older cops don’t know how to do anything. They talk themselves up and then 19p everything anyway.
Ain't that the truth. Obese midgets, perfectly describes some of the existing, and less than qualified for any dance with a 22 year old drunk.
You will really upset the "civilian" project managers and records people. You forget, this is their time. They make 88k a year to work from home and take notes or fill foia requests.
Yep 88-1 did too.
Most of then are just scouting for a husband or simply want a check nothing more.
Yeah. Spent his career being a successful real estate guy, but always "wanted to be the Police." So, he took the job from a young guy that wanted it, spent about 8 months on, then retired. But he can tell all his Lakepoint Tower neighbors how he was "the Police."
I just turned 70 but still have my trusty S&W K38 spinner and can still see. Maybe it's time to come out of retirement?
Testosterone replacement therapy, regular lifting and growth hormone would make all you 50yr olds feel 25 again and all you 60yr olds feel 30 again. That’s a fact.
But you do to write a good report.
As long as they pass the power test for the 21 year old male standard hire them
There are 55 year-olds that are in top shape and wise enough to know when to call in backup, when to back off and let further investigation and detectives do their job , or to mentor or teach others. That being said, it's hard to believe the actual implementation would achieve that.
Good for you. Best wishes. (Chicago take note...you will see more and more retiring at age 50. Not only do a majority of our officers hate this job but they hate having to live in this city.)
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