Tuesday, December 27, 2005

Airplane Safety


This is a utility knife. On 11 September 2001, terrorists using tools just like this cut the throat of at least one flight attendant, letting her bleed to death as they took over an airplane and turned it into a missile. A pilot was also killed by a utility knife.

Now the Transportation Security Administration will allow small knives, scissors and other such tools to be carried aboard aircraft. Their reasoning is that cockpit doors and such have been reinforced and terrorists will be unable to use planes as bombs.

Fine. But what about the flight attendants? Passengers? Granted, in this day and age, passengers would probably fight to the death to prevent a hijacking, but why give anyone the tools to threaten, harm or incapacitate other passengers when you're 30,000 feet up in the air? Bad idea by ignorant bureaucrats. Make the screeners do their jobs. There is no need for anyone to have a box cutter, a Leatherman, a Swiss army knife and certainly not an icepick, knitting needle or throwing star in the passenger compartment of a plane.

68 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the website, thekidfrombrooklyn.com, there is a video I'm sure many have seen. In it, the kid from brooklyn thinks all airplane passengers should be given a baseball bat on entering the plane.

Archie Bunker thought to give everyone a pistol. I like the baseball bat better. Any asshole stupid enough to try some shit would get the bat up his ass! Actually, a lot of bats.

It's comical, but it really would work. But the idea would never be taken seriously.

12/27/2005 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

with this wisdom, its just a matter of time till those cammel-fuckers get us again! god help up, be prepared!

12/27/2005 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous one week Ill have 29 and a day said...

un fucking believeable
01:13 Amen

12/27/2005 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i bet it was the idea of democrats too...

12/27/2005 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, despite all of these restrictions lifted on airplane passengers and the saftey concerns they will raise, TRU will still suck.

12/27/2005 03:40:00 AM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

I have no problems with small sharp items. Taking these things away from passengers provides nothing that would make anyone safer. We need to learn from or jails and prisons that quickly made, improvised weapons can be far deadlier than tose little box cutters in determined hands.

It's long overdue to again lift the restrictions on off duty POs carrying their sidearms. On 9/11 two of the hijacked planes had unarmed and useless off duty POs.

I will go a step further and suggest free standby flights for all LEOs to get them on the planes. The publicity of a program like that would provide peace of mind to the flying public and provide real security too.

Most coppers are too young to remember the days prior to the mid 1970s when you could fly with your sidearms with no restrictions.

I have an interesting piece I wrote about this stuff on my blog.

12/27/2005 05:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the arm of the government that made this decision is relying too much on the incident in Miami where the Federal Air Marshalls capped the nut case. Only problem is like us here in Chicago, there are not enough of them and they can't be everywhere. There is also the distinct possibility after a while they get so lax that they will stop blending in with the passengers, you know like the tactical guys being unable to blend with the citizens (before you all go off on me, I spent 7 years on a tactical team).

The terrorists are slow and methodical in their planning and will wait for years before executing their plan so they will learn to pick out the Air Marshalls and off them first.

I am probably being cynical about this because I am expecting as usual the people making the rules don't understand the game. We will just have to wait and see and hope to God that none of our family are aboard when they hijack the next one.

Have a happy and safe New Year everyone!

12/27/2005 05:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im always amazed at how the democratic yuppy liberal bleeding heart mind works.

So give the bomb building, camel boinkin idiots all the tools they need to be sucessfull once again?

Why not just allow one plane incident a month. Then you wont be racist or discrimanative against the terrorist mind.

Im just waiting for the moment the next plot hits. All middle east pieces of shit in my site will see allah.

And I guarantee if one of my loved ones gets hit. I start offin these assholes one by one. Thats the American way!

Im sick and tired of bleeding heart liberals. This is America we take no shit from any allah asshole.

If you want to live here, get rid of the middle east ways and take a fuckin bath.

12/27/2005 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the feds kindly return my souvenir boomerang and platinum cigar cutter that they confiscated at my San Francisco layover from Australia?

P.S.: Actually, after speaking with a supervisor, they let my items pass. While playing "fetch", the boomerang poses quite an aerodynamic challenge to my beloved mutt.

12/27/2005 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why should retired cops get to carry after they retire. Self-protection? Gee, the regular guy doen't get that right in Illinois. Are these retired guys above the regular guy? They like to think so. An A.S.A. doesn't get that right and he puts more guys behind bars than any cop. I f you want to carry move to a concealed carry state. CITY SAYS NO, SO GO!

12/27/2005 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the "I hate retired cops" troll. He shows up in every thread. Maybe he should worry about the shitheads who are carrying concealed weapons instead of cops.

12/27/2005 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A.S.A's don't have direct interaction with offenders, except for the occasional felony review case; and that's harmless.

12/27/2005 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A national ban on handguns would solve these problems. Lets disarm all. Go thru ATF records request gun owners to turn weapons in, if not seize their homes, cars and personal property. This would help the national debit. A disarmed public is a respectful one. P.S. allow PO's to only have "1" duty weapon. All others not needed.

12/27/2005 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If cops want to play police off-duty let them put a police sign on their house so we can go there for help. Give them a book of case reports so they can do paper. Oh,ya but most cops don't do paper unless there's a gun or dope pinch attached.

12/27/2005 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:33 am

Since the "I hate retired cops troll" is irrational, at best, I can only assume that it's da mare or an ex-con.

The last two posters are delusional. Ignore.

12/27/2005 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What an idiot to think that "ASA's put more guys behind bars". This guy is fuckin' brain dead. Ignore. Has no idea how the system works.

12/27/2005 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are setting up for another 911 so Bush's polls can go up.

12/27/2005 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's long overdue to again lift the restrictions on off duty POs carrying their sidearms. On 9/11 two of the hijacked planes had unarmed and useless off duty POs.


Ya that's smart. Guns are the answer to EVERYTHING. What is CPD hit % with a pistol? How many holes in the cabin from missed shots do you need to de-pressurize a plane??

12/27/2005 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

An ARMED SOCIETY is a POLITE SOCIETY. In every study we've ever seen, concealed carry results in LOWER crime.

And the left can't stand it. Thanks to alternative media like blogs and internet media giants, the liberals can't stiffle debate and information from reaching the "great unwashed masses."

12/27/2005 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous grasshopper said...

King Dick took my gun, my smokes, my corner tavern, and now he wants to take my throwing star too !

That's egregious !

12/27/2005 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It's long overdue to again lift the restrictions on off duty POs carrying their sidearms. On 9/11 two of the hijacked planes had unarmed and useless off duty POs.


Ya that's smart. Guns are the answer to EVERYTHING. What is CPD hit % with a pistol? How many holes in the cabin from missed shots do you need to de-pressurize a plane??

12/27/2005 10:20:38 AM

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Actually drippy dick, myth busters the t.v. show did a special on this. They pressurized a plane and left dummy's in the seats and fired 44 cal. rounds in the plane. Guess what, its all hollywood the plane never blew up, it lost almost no pressure!!!! They then lit a bomb off inside that in fact de-pressurized the aircraft. so Gun hater guns will not depressurize a plane.
P.S. You and Hitler share alot of thoughts on gun control.

12/27/2005 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you know that 15% of all violent crimes involve stolen PO's guns. As it shows PO's weapons should be kept in the station with the radios. Check out your gun when at work!

12/27/2005 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In reguards to off-duty cops with guns on planes. Most cops can't shoot worth a shit and probably hit the pilot.

12/27/2005 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO ALL YOU COPS LOOK UNDER YOUR BED FOR MONSTERS SINCE YOU WORRY ABOUT BAD GUYS BEHIND EVERY TREE.

12/27/2005 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

15% of violents crimes with stolen PO's guns! Show me the stats, stupid.

12/27/2005 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CIMEFILE: YOU R A DORK!

12/27/2005 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO ALL YOU COPS LOOK UNDER YOUR BED FOR MONSTERS SINCE YOU WORRY ABOUT BAD GUYS BEHIND EVERY TREE.

I love this. I bet your an extremely educated person/thing.

Lets just say I take your kid to the zoo. Im off duty and a liberal idiot much like yourself. (Im not ...just using this for scenario).

We have fun at the zoo and then theres a goof I arrested a year ago. I dont recognize him. He approaches me screaming Im going to kill you and your family.

This goof fires multible rounds I am scattering and notice your kid got shot and killed. I didnt have my weapon and couldnt return fire.

The only way a bad guy turns good is when you shoot and kill him/her.

If they take my gun away, I quit and move where the minorities asses arent kissed royally. In fact where is that? Id move now.


Only untill a yuppy liberal idiot becomes a victim do they then understand whats really happening in this shithole of a city.

12/27/2005 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oprah had a show on the "N" word today. She wants to stop the "N: word. Only problem is the "N" word is mostly used/abused by the "N" people. If you dont want to be called an "N" word, then dont act like a "N" word. Gee, thats simple.

12/27/2005 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This goof fires multible rounds I am scattering and notice your kid got shot and killed. I didnt have my weapon and couldnt return fire."


I give up...what are "multible" rounds? Are they like buckshot or something?

12/27/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Crimefile-

I saw the pictures of the matrons during firearm training on your blog. Do you know who any of them are? Does anybody?

12/27/2005 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Phayyde said...

Hey if it's safety we're after, maybe it's time we get used to the fact:

You can't lock yourself in a room for an hour with a group of 20 - 50 random individuals and expect a 100% risk-free trip.

Flying is dangerous. So is driving, so is horseback. It is naive to think that a POLICY will bring the risk to zero.

How many people are dying annually due to lacerations mid-flight? What is the ACTUAL risk here?

12/27/2005 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crimefile's pics of lady officers at range.

I think the second lady was/is named Linda N. The cutie in the foreground looks familiar but I can't place her. Perhaps some of the veteran/retired lady police officers may recognize these girls.

12/27/2005 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened in 025 today?

12/27/2005 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

Those gals in the picture are not matrons! There were matrons in Central Detention who wore the same uniform, were sworn but did not train with or carry firearms.

These gals pictured were policewomen.

The stars all women on the CPD wore said policewoman or matron.

They all had a litle round shield that was a City of Chicago seal on their little beret hats.

The joke was when the last few matrons were turned into "patrolman". Many of them did NOT even own a gun.

Sgt Swanson did not remember the names of these gals or the year the pictures were taken. We both guessed somewhere around 1968 to 1971

Look for a surprise I will post on New Years about a special policewoman on my blog.

If anyone can ID these chicks please let me know...

12/27/2005 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mr.give us our manpower back, SOS and TRU wont be banned anytime soon. We all know humpin that f@#$%ing beat car is the lowest of the low, a high majority of the guys on SOS and TRU earned their spot and yes we all know also there was some clout involved w/some. These units are gifts to the working police who go out and do real police work. So stop whining about the manpower shortage because we are going to be short for a very long time, so start makin some arrests and come on aboard.

12/27/2005 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF-DUTY po'S AT THE ZOO?? STARTING GUN BATTLES WITH THE PUBLIC? DISARM THEM ALL! WHISTLES AND STICKS!

12/27/2005 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get back to the register, BITCH.

12/27/2005 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crimefile. LOL, you jump on the poster about calling them matrons, then you refer to them as "chicks."

12/27/2005 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not with the public my best ex friend. Just with pieces of shit like you.

12/27/2005 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Phayyde the bomb builder,

Go kill yourself. No better yet go blow you and your family up while visiting the middle east.

12/27/2005 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what are "multible" rounds

more than one ya goof.

12/27/2005 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous The Rock said...

To the guys at the fighting 025 Happy Holidays...P.S Hi LES and Rick

12/27/2005 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous TRU is wortless said...

Anonymous said...
To Mr.give us our manpower back, SOS and TRU wont be banned anytime soon. We all know humpin that f@#$%ing beat car is the lowest of the low, a high majority of the guys on SOS and TRU earned their spot and yes we all know also there was some clout involved w/some. These units are gifts to the working police who go out and do real police work. So stop whining about the manpower shortage because we are going to be short for a very long time, so start makin some arrests and come on aboard.

12/27/2005 02:46:56 PM

Hhahahahahah please TRU is a bunch of ex "jumpout boys" impound happy P/O's. Most of them have 2 years on, what the hell kind of work are they doing? Hard working desk crew? You should see it, filled with women P/O's whos daddies are bosses or the show some titties and get placed there. Some of them are good guys(have time on the job), but they are there just for the freedom not to run and play hero in 005,006,009 etc... Ask the district cars about TRU and they will let you know the truth about them. I never understood that when TRU was in a district and that district is in a backlog or RAP why cant TRU handle some disturbance calls or worse is they come over the air for a paper car when its a paper job only. Isnt TRU there to help the P/O's not make more work for them by on viewing a battery victim (roll on by if you aint going to do the paper)?????? These units are not gifts to working police they are the product of this worthless admin. in an attempt to please the black community and to keep murder rate down.

12/27/2005 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I agree with the above post I am really getting sick of the statements like "Some of them are good guys(have time on the job)"

People need to get over this "got time on the job" crap. There are plenty people around with a shit load of time and are just as big as dogs or as clue less as some people with two years on.

Just cause you have time on the job does nor mean you are a good guy or a good cop for that matter

12/27/2005 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO GUN = NO BALLS. JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE ABOUT YOU COPS.

12/27/2005 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plain and simple about the gangbangers. They suck

12/27/2005 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

NO GUN = NO BALLS. JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE ABOUT YOU COPS.

12/27/2005 05:53:07 PM

Do you feel better now? And I have a question for you: Have you seen your balls lately? I bet not.

Happy New Year.

P.S. Go fuck yourself!

12/27/2005 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have fun at the zoo and then theres a goof I arrested a year ago. I dont recognize him. He approaches me screaming Im going to kill you and your family.

This goof fires multible rounds I am scattering and notice your kid got shot and killed. I didnt have my weapon and couldnt return fire.

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WOW are you a dork! Did you actually dream about this? Just how many times HAS this happened to you??

12/27/2005 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said...
An ARMED SOCIETY is a POLITE SOCIETY. In every study we've ever seen, concealed carry results in LOWER crime.

And the left can't stand it. Thanks to alternative media like blogs and internet media giants, the liberals can't stiffle debate and information from reaching the "great unwashed masses."

12/27/2005 10:30:22 AM

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blah blah blah I'm SCC, I repeat everything I'm told. blah blah blah

12/27/2005 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the previous post 8:01.

Actually, it was Robert A. Heinlein who said AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY.

You sound like one of those closed minded assholes who KNOW that guns are the cause of all evil and there is nothing to be said to change your mind. OK, I won't try to change your mind. You have no mind to be changed anyway.

I wonder, have you ever fired a weapon? Handled a weapon? Been taught the proper respect for weapons? I think not, you're just some talking asshole. And we know what comes out of assholes....shit.

So, go fuck yourself.

And have a Happy New Year too!

12/27/2005 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

We have fun at the zoo and then theres a goof I arrested a year ago. I dont recognize him. He approaches me screaming Im going to kill you and your family.

This goof fires multible rounds I am scattering and notice your kid got shot and killed. I didnt have my weapon and couldnt return fire.

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WOW are you a dork! Did you actually dream about this? Just how many times HAS this happened to you??

12/27/2005 08:00:25 PM

To me, it's never happened, but on many occasions I had to use my weapon to take police action, WHILE OFF DUTY.

So don't worry, even if an asshole like you talking shit like you are talking got into a problem, I and many other off duty coppers just like me would save your ass. So sleep tight.

12/27/2005 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want to sound like I'm trying to be Mr. Macho or anything, but if I was on an airplane and a person pulled out a razor knife like the one depicted in this posting, I'd shove it up his ass!

12/27/2005 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd cut his "special purpose" off!

12/27/2005 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I TOOK OFF DUTY POLICE ACTION WITH A GUN ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO A GUY TRIED TO RUN A GIRL DOWN, I PLAYED HERO, THE GOT GOT OUT OF HIS CAR AND GRABBED MY BALLS SQUOZE THEM LIKE A FLORIDA ORANGE.

I WACKED HIM OVER THE HEADWITHA HAMMERLESS COLT. HE LET GO.

I NEVER DID THAT AGAIN, MY NUTS ARE STILL SQUARE !!

Sorry about the caps, I just looked up, retired you know, out on the beach, sun went down, that sort of thing. Love you Po-lice.

12/27/2005 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

only once while at the zoo. Your wife was blowing me by the dolphin exhibit.

12/27/2005 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's going to be comical when Area One homicide dicks are processing juvys at the new Processing Center at 39/Cal. There are going to be Youth Dicks handling shootings now.

12/27/2005 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey:

NO GUN = NO BALLS. JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE ABOUT YOU COPS.

12/27/2005 05:53:07 PM
Pick the time and the place, I'll tell you what, I'll leave my pistol at home, you can bring your gun! MAKE FUCKING SURE ITS WELL LUBED! CAUSE I'M GONNA SHOVE IT SO FAR UP YOUR ASS YOU'LL REALLY BE ABLE TO SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF! until then, I recomend you start working out your little muscles!

Love-
the one thats gonna kick your ass!

12/27/2005 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
It's going to be comical when Area One homicide dicks are processing juvys at the new Processing Center at 39/Cal. There are going to be Youth Dicks handling shootings now.

12/27/2005 09:20:05 PM"

What's comical?

12/27/2005 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/27/2005 09:20:05 PM

You have no idea what you are talking about.

12/27/2005 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Da Coach said...

SCC you are always apologists for the Bush Administration. How can you have a comment on the recent idiocy of the TSA to allow weapons back on planes, and not take the current administration to task? You blame bureaucrats? Who you crappin?

12/27/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Karl Rove said...

I've read some of the idiotic comments posted. A couple of comments blame Democrats for the TSA's change in policy. This agency has been set up under a Republican House and Senate, and a Republican White House. Of course, you are probably the same idiots who thought Iraq had something to do with 9/11. In fact, it was not the Democrats or the Republicans who are to blame for allowing weapons on planes. It is a terrorist cell that is working within the TSA, and they are funded by Howard Dean and the Democratic National Committee. I know this because I listen to their phone calls every night after I tuck in our beloved President.

12/27/2005 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee it seems most cops only talk shit when they are armed. Is that the only job you ever did? You got hired cause your daddy or uncle Tom was the police. Go back to the grocery store put on your apron, and start bagging. Your mama should of slapped you around the school yard as a kid.

12/28/2005 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous p.o. a. copper said...

(yawn)

12/28/2005 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure, half the nit-wits CPD is hiring are playing cowboy in the gin mills ater their tour. Now they want to get on planes with their weapons. Nigger please.

12/28/2005 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:52 You have a customer at the drive-thru.

12/28/2005 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ban all gun? Yes, lets shred the Constitution while we're at it, Vladimir.
Legal gunius: ASAs present the facts of a case made by a copper. They put no one in jail!

12/28/2005 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Jack the Ripper said...

SCC..Nice post on the chowder heads at TSA that have come up with the idea to allow weapons on planes. You need to stop drinking the Dubya Kool Aid because he appointed the head of the TSA, Kip Hawley.
SCC? You there?

12/28/2005 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous THE ROCK said...

To Mr no balls: Does your MOMMY know you are an adult website for LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY, we all know that you live in squalor,have about a dozen cats roaming around your garbage infested basement above your mommys apartment. oh and by the way yea, u took the police exam and of course you failed the written and for years you wanted to be the police, but YOUR NOT!!! GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED IN H.S MADE YOU DROP OUT YOU SISSY, AND YOU NEVER WENT BACK TO GET YOUR GED. save yourself the aggrevation and go back to your chat rooms where you proposistion little boys. this is for POLICE NOT YOU!!! WHERE WERE YOU ON NEW YEARS EVE AT MIDNIGHT, IN YOR BED W/YOUR ELMO BLANKET CURLED UP IN A FETAL POSISTION SUCKING YOUR THUMB,DID MOMMY MAKE SOME NICE HOT COCO FOR YOU. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THE BOYS IN BLUE AND YOU TO SISSY.

1/01/2006 07:11:00 PM  

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