FOP Making Moves?
The Sun Times is reporting the FOP is suing the city over shortfalls in retiree health care benefits and the benefits paid to their widows. If this proves to be true, the FOP ought to use this as a hammer to beat the city administration to death with. There ought to be an entire publicity campaign built around the fact that the city is shafting people who served them honorably and the widows of those who served honorably.
We are very loud critics of the FOP when they drop the ball, so it's only fair we point out when they fight the good fight. This is one of those times.
We are very loud critics of the FOP when they drop the ball, so it's only fair we point out when they fight the good fight. This is one of those times.
posted by SCC at 4:42 PM
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Post the court case number or cite the complaint as filed, so we could read it. Thank you.
Benefits Management is now sending out letters to active members saying that the City is exempt from certain federally mandated health care benefits (HIPPA). I guess once again federal laws don't apply to the sovereign nation of Chicago. Whats The FOP doing about this?
Please explain what this means: "City is exempt from certain federally mandated health care benefits (HIPPA)"
Is MEDICARE federally mandated or not?
Sorry this is off topic but-
Has anyone heard a rumor about SOS being disbanded??
Will never happen. They may "disband" it, but all they'll do is call it some other stupid ass name.
I hope the FOP will push to rid the residencey law...
My future wife is a copper also, we both have 5 years on. No more raises for another 5.
We almost bought a $400,000 townhome the other day. What stopped us was the fact that we could not have kids if we did. Ok, I exaggerate, we could have them, just not educate them.
You old timers should REALLY be happy you came on when you did. That townhome was on price with any POS bungalow on the NW side, but WAY better.
These housing prices are a joke and I'm not the one laughing.
An Angel In The Sky Must Leave His Place Of Rest,
Gently Tucking His Wings Beneath His Armored Vest.
For Duty Has Called, There Is Much Work To Do
Little Did He Know, This One Is Dressed In Blue.
Arriving On The Scene, He Knows Just What To Say,
"Follow Me, Fallen Brother, I'll Show You The Way."
"Your Duty Has Ended, Your Work Is Now Through."
"Come Hand Your Hat Beside Mine. I'm A Cop, Too."
GOD BLESS YA ERIC R.I.P
WEAR YOUR MOURNING BANDS PEOPLE
In the simple performance of duty, he pinned on a badge,
checked his gear with a practiced eye,
and kissed his loved ones good-bye.
In the simple performance of duty, he reported for work,
joked with his buddies at roll call,
and made his last trip down the squad room hall.
In the simple performance of duty, he headed for his beat,
doing his job protecting his home from crime,
he stopped cars, and checked buildings for the last time.
In the simple performance of duty, he answered the call,
to help the helpless, to find the lost,
no matter the danger or how great the cost.
In the simple performance of duty, he lay down his life,
for those in peril he tried to save,
our brave friend went to his grave.
In the simple performance of duty, we honor his deed,
as we carry him to rest in a flag draped casket,
long after the world has forgotten, we shall never forget.
Never judge or regret, what he did,
in the simple performance of duty.
RIP ERIC
We remember the officers who changed our lives,
The men and woman who protected us day and night,
People who respect for their dedication to the cause,
For when faced with danger, they never even pause.
We remember the officers who always stood true,
Whatever the color of uniform, brown gray or blue,
With pride and integrity they say "To serve and protect",
For the giving of their life, we offer our respect.
We remember the officers who we never really knew,
Persons strong enough to answer the challenge are few,
With heavy hearts we mourn the officers in eternal rest,
There's more to these people than the badge on their chest.
-Author Unknown
R.I.P Eric
That HIPPA letter is a standard letter we get every year.
Back on the Thread of Retiree Health Care,
Which will impact Eric's Family.
Could FOP/PBPA file a freedom of imformation request to compare what health plans the politicians are offered as opposed to what we are thrown.
Do they get the premo plans with all the comforts while we are stuck with referals and co-pays and higher and higher deductables. I want to know what they get at retirement after so long.
I heard that Richie isn't even on any city pension plan. He is on the State Legislator's plan, which follows him from office to office. This is much better than anything we get, after all, they write their own rules.
To all the young cops out there, benefits can be more important than cash. The Fed's tax cash, the benefits they do not. Presure the FOP/PBPA and the politicians on this.
I am sure that Daley is drooling over what United Airlines and other corperations did to their employee's pension and medical care while the executives enjoy the multi-million bonuses.
SEISER FOR SHERIFF!
Every 14th of February you get the chance to display your fondness for your wife or girlfriend by showering her with gifts, flowers, dinner, shows and any other baubles that women find romantic.
Secret...guys feel left out. That's right...left out. There's no special holiday for the ladies to show their appreciation for the men in their life. Men as a whole are either too proud or just too embarrassed to admit it. Which is why a new holiday has been created.
March 20th is now officially "Steak & Blowjob Day."
Simple, effective and self-explanatory...this holiday has been created so your ladies can have a day to show your man just how much you love him. No cards, no flowers, no special nights on the town-the name of the holiday explains it all...just a steak and a BJ. That's it. This twin pairing of Valentine's Day and Steak & BJ Day will usher in a new age of love as men everywhere will try THAT much harder in February to ensure a more memorable March! It's like a perpetual love machine.
The word is already spreading, but as with any new idea, it needs a little push to start the ball rolling. So spread the word, and help bring love and peace to this crazy world.
They probably filed the suit because it is a loser. They only file loser suits to make themselves look like they are doing something. They could care less about benefits, retirees, or anyone else.
I am sure that Daley is drooling over what United Airlines and other corperations did to their employee's pension and medical care while the executives enjoy the multi-million bonuses.
2/14/2006 06:41:02 PM
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amen!
20 yrs from now there will not be a pension for me
I heard mike north talking about that holiday a few years ago. Ya got my vote!
News
Tinley Park girl raped on street
February 14, 2006
FROM STAFF REPORTS Advertisement
A 16-year-old girl was raped last week while walking in the 16800 block of Odell Avenue in a subdivision near Centennial Park, the Daily Southtown is reporting. The girl was raped by an unarmed male stranger at 9:20 p.m. on Feb. 9, though the report was not released until four days after the attack, the newspaper reported.
The assault was similar to one on May 28, when another 16-year-old girl was raped by a man who threatened her with a gun. Police waited five days before releasing information about that attack, according to the Daily Southtown. Chief Michael O'Connell said the information delay is justified in both unsolved cases, which do not appear to be related. He said when time is taken to validate information it prevents residents from being unnecessarily alarmed.
In the May 28 attack, police have said they have "every indication" Tyrone Everhart — a 28-year-old Markham man being held without bail for a separate sexual assault in Oak Forest — is connected with the rape on Oak Park Avenue. However, Everhart has not been charged in the Tinley Park attack. Everhart was one of six Cook County jail inmates who escaped over the weekend and is now back in custody.
The attacker in last week's rape is still at large. He is described as a white male, 20 to 25 years old, about 5 feet, 5 inches tall and weighing between 100 and 120 pounds, with brown eyes and sandy blond hair, police said.
NOW THIS MULES ARE INFECTING SUPPOSEDLY GOOD AREA WHICH WE WOULD MOVE TO IF THE RESIDENCY WAS EVER LIFTED. WHAT IS WHITE AMERICA EVER GOING TO DO?
All those paragons of virtue and propriety in the city administration and city council, talk about medical care for people, especially woman issues. Specifically, through their lobbying and lobbying of others of the same kind of scum, federal law mandates that females must have mamograms and pap exams paid for by medical insures. Guess what the city exempts itself from these laws. Daley, the alderman and all those political stooges that represent themselves as city adminstrators are full of shit. The only thing that counts is putting bucks in their pockets and the pockets of their friends. Remember when Burke went on a soapbox about the number of female toilets in the new stadiums, (obviously he saw some form of dollar signs), but on routine health care issues that the federal government mandates he plays dumb.
Did anyone catch the 5pm news on ch7? They reported that CPD got a tip about the jailbreak inthe afternoon and passed it along to the sherrif's office. you think that maybe OUR dept(CPD) might have told 010th dist or SOS to have some cars around the jail.. you know just in case it was REAL!
TO: Anonymous said...
They probably filed the suit because it is a loser. They only file loser suits to make themselves look like they are doing something. They could care less about benefits, retirees, or anyone else.
Based on this administration's record to date, I honestly believe you may be correct.
"February 14, 2006
P R E S S R E L E A S E
Mark P. Donahue
President
312-733-7776
This morning the Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge #7 (F.O.P.) filed a lawsuit charging that the City of Chicago has failed to meet its court-mandated obligations to its retirees.
The Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge #7 commissioned a study on behalf of all retired Chicago Police Officers and widows, as well as all retired City of Chicago employees. The purpose of the study was to determine whether the City was meeting its duty to provide a court-determined percentage of costs for health care and prescription drugs. In reviewing the findings of our consultants, we concluded that the City has failed to pay its mandated share, resulting in overpayments in excess of $20,000,000 by Chicago’s retirees. If unchecked, this shortfall could reach $100,000,000 by the expiration of the Korshak settlement in 2013.
At 2:30 p.m. here at the Fraternal Order of Police Hall, a press conference will be held at which F.O.P. President Mark P. Donahue will answer questions about the lawsuit and the research which led to our court filing. Copies of the pleading will be available at that time.
If you would like more information please contact F.O.P. President Mark Donahue at 312-733-7776.
"
Why is it that we can not have 100%medical & dental coverage through our FOP? Philidelphia's FOP provides for their officers. Even if we had to pitch in $10 more a month to build up a fund we could do that no problem. Ask the retired guys to kick in a little for the first year. We could have a hell of a fund established in no time! As we know know, there will always be new P.O.'s coming on this job to help contribute. It is sad to think that the city is getting a kick back from BC/BS just because of the number of police officers in this city. Yet we get screwed! PLEASE FOP! Fight for this for our membership! GOD knows we and our families deserve better health care than what we have now.
If you paid attention: the FOP can't force that on the City through the arbitration process. That's how it works. Philadelphia got it because they got it through bargaining with the City of Philadelphia.
Chicago's chief labor attorney offered us the same thing if we would take ALL of Philadelphia's contract, including their incredibly low pay and all the other crappy parts of their contract. The Lodge said, "No."
And they were right to do so.
Keep fighting.
Go back to bed, Wayne.
Donahue gives the city 23.8 million pension loan back then files a suit for shortfalls in the system. every political hack prays for the voters to have a short memory. SCC you are a little quick to toss roses and a little slow on the critical side. How about your feelings on having a merit sgt on the FOP Board; what do you really think?
To : 2/14/2006 08:11:24 PM
They Did! And they got a name for notification and documented it. Now go back to your Porn
"Now go back to your Porn"
To anonymous who wrote the above as an intelligent response to a previous comment. Your comment is just as lame as this petty lawsuit. It's not going anywhere, especially after Donahue forgave the city paying the pension board $23 million. Now, if FOP really wants to file a suit against the city, they should go after Daley for changing the retirement age. Do you know how many officers are fucked because of Daley's doings. This should be grandfathered back to 1986 so anyone who came on the job will receive full pension. As it is today, many of them are fucked and then required to pay their own health insurance after retirement. So, what do you say about that, genius? Oh, let me guess?
I'm not a cop, but how is it determined how much one gets if an officer is killed in the line of duty?
Also, why does a retired officer have to pay for their own health insurance? Wouldn't that be quite expensive, if you factor in age?
How about disabled officers hurt on the job? Do they get anything at all?
Stand down, Dick!
Atrial fibrillation is not cool!
Atrial fibrillation is not cool!
It would be cool to watch...
"Now, if FOP really wants to file a suit against the city, they should go after Daley for changing the retirement age. "
Well, Wayne, as you know, that lawsuit was lost many years ago and King Richie just waited until Townsend died to implement it. Talk about trying to do a lawsuit to nowhere....Sheessh!!!
ALso: you think $20 million is petty? $120 million over time is petty? Real money taken out of real pockets, instead of that 23 million that didn't come out of anyones pocket that the City will still have to pay us what they owe us when we retire? And we get to go at 29 and a day instead of 34 and a day (for max pension)? Fuck you then.
Area Three Detective Division alerts residents, in the 024th District, of a wanted offender of an Aggravated Criminal Sexual Assault that occured on Sunday, February 12th, 2006, at 3:30 a.m.
TO SHEESH
WAYNE WHOMEVER DID NOT WRITE THE COMMENT. SHEESH ON YOU!
Ernie Brown for Sheriff!
TO: 10:15:36 PM
THE ONLY REASON DONAHUE IS FILING THIS BULLSHIT LAWSUIT GOING NOWHERE IS BECAUSE HE WILL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT. WHAT IT IS, YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE.
SCC
PLEASE ADD THE COMPLAINT VERBATIM CONCERNING THIS THREAD.
A policeman is a composite of what all men are... a mingling of saint and sinners... dust and deity. Cold statistics wave the fan over the stinkers...underscore instances of dishonesty and brutality because they are news. What that REALLY means is they are exceptional, unusual - not commonplace. Buried under the froth is the fact that less than one half of one percent of policemen misfit that uniform. And that's a better average than among clergymen.
What is a policeman made of. He of all men is at one the most needed and the most unwanted... a strangely nameless creature who is "sir" to his face... and "pig" to his back.
He must be such a diplomat that he can settle differences between individuals... so that each will think he won... But if the policeman is neat, he's a flirt. If he's not, he's a grouch.
In an instant he must make decisions which require months for a lawyer. But if he hurries, he's careless. If he's deliberate, he's lazy. He must be first to an accident... infallible with a diagnosis... he must be able to start breathing, stop bleeding, tie splints and above all be sure the victim goes home without a limp,
or expect to be sued.
The police officer must know every gun... draw on the run... and hit where it doesn't hurt. He must be able to whip two men his size and half his age....without damaging his uniform and without being brutal. If you hit him, he's a coward. If he hits you, he's a bully.
A policeman must know everything and not tell. He must know where all the sin is and not partake.
The policeman must, from a single human hair, be able to describe the crime, the weapon and the criminal.. and tell you where the criminal is hiding. But if he catches the criminal he's lucky... if he doesn't he's a dunce. If he gets promoted he has political pull. If he doesn't he's a dullard.
The policeman must chase bum leads to a dead end and stake out ten nights to tag one witness who saw it happen, but refused to remember.
He runs files and writes reports until his eyes ache to build a case against some felon who will get dealed out by a shameless shamus or an honorable who isn't.
A policeman must be a minister... social worker... a diplomat... a tough guy... and a gentleman. And of course he will have to be a genius, for he will have to feed a family on a policeman's salary.
Author Unknown
possibly from Paul Harvey
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The death penalty again...
http://crimefilenews.blogspot.com/2006/02/another-reason-to-hate-death-penalty_14.html
If you can't stay on thread, GO AWAY! Yell into an empty barrel on you own blog.
Just wanted everyone to know that I'm on TRU and let me say, we are the real deal. I make about between 8 to 10 pinches a day. Earlier I arrested a polish guy that was passed out in an alley. Public drunkeness? Not on my shift Jabroni! Right now I'm getting ready to go to Teasers bar where I'll pick up and bang the hottest chick there. All the beat cops and detectives hanging out there drinking will be so jealous. Come to TRU boys, that's where the actions at. If you don't believe me, you've probably never been the real police.
M/4/24
. . Earlier I arrested a polish guy . .
Was he Black polish or Brown Polish?
FOP only does it for themself. Thats why the useless lawsuit!
As for the 2/14/2006 05:32:05 PM post about town homes. BUY that house on the n/w side or s/w side. Residency isn't goin anywhere. And if you look you can find a nice fixer upper now and have a family. Look at public school districts when looking for home and buy within their boundaries. IE: Norwood park, Onahan, sauganash, edgebrook, Ebinger for the N/w side. Manage your money well and consider your home an investement in money and family and you will do ok. Also stretch and buy the biggest you can now cause the prices continue to go up!
If you paid attention: the FOP can't force that on the City through the arbitration process. That's how it works. Philadelphia got it because they got it through bargaining with the City of Philadelphia. But if we as Blue stuck together we could. But there are to many ass kissing sellouts. Im ashamed of this job but to old to quit.
Forget this job. Collect a paycheck and find something to do on the side. The only way you will get anything on this job is to kiss someones ass and sell your soul.
The first guy/gal that tries to do good for the Blue shirts of FOP will be found in the trunk of a car.
Donahue as any other FOP hack would put two rounds in your back to make themselves look good or for a quick buck.
Hey 1:22am
I know this TRU copper and he does kick ass! He just got his 3 years on and he just got his 5th honorable mention. He lives at home with his mother in his same room since he was born, I think is waiting for her to kick the bucket so he can get house, thats the NW side way!!!!! He brags one day he will work bt 1611 and stop the raping and the attemt kidnappings! This dude rocks Teasers all night with war stories. I heard he sound impounded two cars for sound on ONE stop! Jambroni you rock!!!!! Oh and he came from 025 so he knows his shit.
TO: 06:40:17 AM
AMEN!
Don't you think TRU has enough going on preparing to bury one of their guys without this constant bullshit, you are a JAGOFF
The HOTTEST chick's at Teasers come from the retirement home down the street! Woo Ha. No teeth Ma!
I looked at the Philidelphia website a while back to learn about their healh plan. Members have an option of one of the following a Blue Cross/Blue shield PPO and an HMO called Keystone. It was administered by their union.
From the Philadelphia PD benefits website:
Health Care
As a member of the Philadelphia Police Department you may choose between one of two health care plans. Either Bluecross/Blue Shield or AETNA US Health Care. You will get to choose a plan for you & your eligible dependents on your first day of training. There maybe a small payroll deduction taken out of your biweekly check for the health care plan you choose. You will receive a list of all participating hospitals and doctors in the plan you choose.
Also as a member of the Philadelphia Police Department the FOP administers our dental, prescription and eye plan. With the dental plan you & all your dependents are covered up to $2,500.00 per year per person. You will receive a list of all eligible dentists in the plan to choose from your first day in the academy. The prescription plan also covers you and your eligible dependents, you pay $1.00 per prescription with the plan. The eye plan covers you and your eligible dependents for one pair of glasses per year at a participating doctor. These health benefits start when you enter the Police Academy, the plan will be explained to you at that time.
For your info.
FOP FOLLOWED THE CASE BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICAL OPPURTUNISTS. THEY KNEW THAT RETIREES HAD ALREADY OBTAINED COUNSEL. THE RETIREES LEGAL REPRESENTATION WAS QOUTED IN THE SUN-TIMES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING THE ISSUE FOR MONTHS. GLAD FOP JOINED THE BANDWAGON.
GLAD FOP JOINED THE BANDWAGON.
Man, you got that right. F.O.P. would look like the dog asses they are if they didn't jump on the bandwagon. Wonder how many retirees know that Donahue wants to get rid of them so they can't vote anymore...Boy wonder, boy do I wonder how slithering snakes sleep at night knowing full well they could care less about us working and dedicated cops.
Whats the difference between a mule and a politician. Nothing to me.
In my humble opinion, they are both jackasses!
Bandwagon? You think these lawsuits just materialize out of thin air? You're an idiot.
Here's a little history, clipped from the FOP Recent updates page:
"Retiree health care contributions are governed by a class action settlement in a case called City of Chicago v. Korshak. The Korshak settlement health care plan first went into effect on September 1, 2003. It expires in 2013. About a year ago, our retirees were informed that they were going to have to pay significant increases in their monthly contributions for health care. I was both concerned and alarmed by these raises so I directed F.O.P. in-house attorney Paul Geiger to look into the matter. We soon learned that the City’s numbers regarding health care expenditures for retirees could not be squared with information the Lodge had received during contract negotiations. The Lodge needed more information.
On February 1, 2005, the Lodge filed a complaint in the Circuit Court of Cook County requesting an accounting of all City of Chicago expenditures for retiree health care. Rather than turn over the requested information, the City fought us. The Lodge informed Judge David Donnersberger that it believed City retirees had been overcharged. Once the Lodge obtained the needed information, in-house lawyers Paul Geiger and Dan Herbert filed a new petition before the court asking that all City retirees be reimbursed and that the settlement agreement in Korshak be re-opened and amended so this does not happen again. The Lodge alleged that retiree overpayments to date were approximately $20,000,000.00. Once our new petition was filed, the City, for the first time, admitted that there was a problem but believes the number is closer to $15,000,000.00. The initial hearing on the petition is set for next Tuesday, 21 February, 2006 at 10:00 a.m.
Keep in mind that this lawsuit affects not just retired police officers, but all retired City workers. The Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge 7, was the only organization that investigated and uncovered the City’s breach of the Korshak agreement. Our lawyers were the first and, at present, the only attorneys to take action in court. The Fraternal Order of Police will aggressively protect the rights of retirees in this case and make sure that deficiencies in the Korshak settlement agreement are addressed and remedied.
Mark Donahue"
Oh yeah, they're late comers to the party. Puhleeeeeeeeze.
You may not like them, but they don't suck at EVERYTHING.
You may not like them, but they don't suck at EVERYTHING.
Want a bet?
Just wondering what FOP's cut will be out of this lawsuit. Any guesses? Bet you a dime on a dollar, the retirees see next to nothing in damages after FOP takes their portion to pay attorneys. Sound familiar, Donahue?
FOP attn's are paid by our dues money and don't work on commission.
Re: the retirees getting some $$ back, if and when that happens a little known group of retired CPD and CFD members started these legal challenges years ago. The group, C.A.R.E.P.A.C. hired a lawyer who is most responsible for todays results. FOP, well, welcome to the dance, but the band just left.
FOP FOLLOWED THE CASE BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICAL OPPORTUNISTS.
Who ever wrote the above is stating the truth. FOP will always take away the lime light from anyone who does their job better than them.
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