Burge Report Coming Out
Batten down the hatches people. The Burge Report is going to be released, probably within the next two weeks and it could spell big trouble for quite a few people.
First of all, there's Burge. Second, there's a whole bunch of people who worked with and for Burge, some of who are still on the job. This could be the proverbial brick on a number of careers. Although the statute of limitations will protect some, there is no statute of limitations on Official Misconduct (but parts of that law didn't exist back when some of the alleged offenses took place - we'll bet the lawyers have a fun time with this one).
Third is the fact that the current mayor was the State's Attorney when a whole boatload of these cases made it through the court system. He was also an integral part of what was left of The Machine while it fought a series of holding actions against minority mayors. There is a potentially huge liability issue here for the Department, City Hall and the State's Attorney office and given the Mayor's propensity for throwing people off (and under) the bus when the heat gets to be too much, we might be looking at a long series of lawsuits either being settled or dragged out for a number of years.
First of all, there's Burge. Second, there's a whole bunch of people who worked with and for Burge, some of who are still on the job. This could be the proverbial brick on a number of careers. Although the statute of limitations will protect some, there is no statute of limitations on Official Misconduct (but parts of that law didn't exist back when some of the alleged offenses took place - we'll bet the lawyers have a fun time with this one).
Third is the fact that the current mayor was the State's Attorney when a whole boatload of these cases made it through the court system. He was also an integral part of what was left of The Machine while it fought a series of holding actions against minority mayors. There is a potentially huge liability issue here for the Department, City Hall and the State's Attorney office and given the Mayor's propensity for throwing people off (and under) the bus when the heat gets to be too much, we might be looking at a long series of lawsuits either being settled or dragged out for a number of years.
posted by SCC at 12:10 AM
51 Comments:
Personally, I don't think Burge did 1/3 of the things he's accused of. Just look at the shitty reputation of his accusers.
If they couldn't find anything then, what on earth could ther be now?
Wow Am I first???
Nope, I beat you.
Just like Burge would!
Brought to you by your friend Dept. of Justice and special interest groups.
Werd.
Burge has been gone off the job for 14 years. Very few people who were in his "circle" are still around. Most of the guys dragged into this were career detectives and didn't become bosses. Some of them that I know are sgt's. But let's be honest. A sergeant with 25 or 30 years on isn't exactly lighting up the career progression charts. No bosses are going to come under scrutiny for Burge.
Most guys who make det that have the juice to move up, just want the detective stamp. If they land in VC, they stumble through a few cleared murders, mostly on the periphery, and then move on. Cline has surrounded himself with exempts that have less than 20 years on the job. But there are still a few guys left, good coppers, that are about to get smeared big time. The northshore sheeny mouthpieces are going to have field day.
I had a motion last year were the offender stated that I beat him with a TV antenna and choked him with typewriter cover. It's become a cliche. Then his sheeny mouthpiece brought up the fact that I had worked with two detectives (now retired) that worked in the old Area 3 with Burge. One day someone will be asked if they worked with me who worked with those two guys who worked for Burge. The sheeny loves money more than life itself.
One day on the South side there was a great big meeting of all the peoples. An unto thy assembly, a Moses of Jesse Jacksonian proportions came forth and said unto thee:
If thy shall be arrested, be sure to allege that at least 3 of the following 8 people are accused of at least 2 of the following 5 atrocities: Burge, B, C, D, E, F, G, H; Electrocution, 2, 3, 4.
And woe unto the Chicago police department, these assembled masses went forth and made thousands of such allegations when arrested for all manner of infractions.
It was all a conspiracy to keep the Man down!
And yes, there is likely enough liability enough here to bankrupt the city and the county.
Again, the silly ass Police Department feeling that they are above and beyond reproach..Sad Burge and his bunch at that time bragged like today's Tru Units, Gun Teams, and SWAT Teams.....20 years from now we will all pay the price for their follies and people with the shittiest reputation in the world...Don't mean shit in a civil court
Crawl back in your hole, loser.
You don't have a clue.
Join the NRA only $35 and help protect the freedoms of honest Americans!
SOPRANOS WAS EXCELLENT TONIGHT.
Back in Burge's day police were cop's.
Oh, oh there's a bus accident!!! LET'S ALL LAY OUT, YEAH I WAS HIT, YEAH THE BUS DOOR JAMMED AND I WAS STUCK IN IT, CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT THAT BUS DRIVER CAUSED THAT LADY THERE TO STEP ON MY TOE.
Again, the silly ass Police Department feeling that they are above and beyond reproach..Sad Burge and his bunch at that time bragged like today's Tru Units, Gun Teams, and SWAT Teams.....20 years from now we will all pay the price for their follies and people with the shittiest reputation in the world...Don't mean shit in a civil court
Shut up jackass. Try to master the english language before you seek to master others.
OFF TOPIC but then again maybe not!
Mayor and Two City Council Members were FIRED!
“Politicians across the country should take note of the results of this election. The central issue of this referendum vote was illegal immigration and elitist politicians ignoring the will of the American people for their own special interests. The voters of Herndon, Virginia sent a clear message to their city officials: ‘You’re fired.’”
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2006-05-03 11:14:05
Excerpt from: Minutemen site
What do you think town people could it happen here?
1:46
Your right you will pay! The criminal mind set is running a`mok and there living all around you. They also have no plan of knocking on your door first. They will take what they want, you see the word please and may I or do you mind does not exist with all the felon's that live in IL. No bounty hunter's for hire here. Chg. and IL. are known as criminal haven. ? Hope your both plain lucky and real, real tuff. Then again you might be one of those insecure low life thugs, hey who knows.
SCC:
page 30 Sun Times Monday May 22. 2006
A day that will live on and on and on and on............
Might there be a sgts class announced this week?
It was announced last week. It started today.
Northshore sheeny? I love it, thats the best. Thanks for the early morning laugh, a good way to start the week. Sad thing is, your right. They truly are scum. But thats probably what they say about us too.
What's a sheeny? A lawyer?
I dont believe Burge did 1/3 of those things either. I believe he did all those things he is accused of.
Be safe and back each other up!!!
Lts graduate on 24MAY06 so you might see an announcement for merit in a couple of weeks
Why in the hell would they promote lieutentants again when they just made a class?
Anonymous said...
Might there be a sgts class announced this week?
5/22/2006 06:43:17 AM
Anonymous said...
Lts graduate on 24MAY06 so you might see an announcement for merit in a couple of weeks for Sgts for the last post who is to stupid to read and probably works in a unit
I'm not positive, but I thought in Illinois, last I checked, the 'only' crimes that do not have a Statute of Limitations are....
Treason
Arson
Murder
Manslaughter
Forgery
I may be wrong, anyone out there to clarify?
Either way, John Burge is a political punching bag for the strokes at the peoples law office*.
Good luck John!
*Intentionally not capitalized
Years of examination in federal court failed to find compelling evidence of torture, yet two political hack lawyers are now poised to release the definitive report showing a pattern of torture and corruption existed. Yep, the lawyers are lining up now to fleece the city on behalf of the Wilson brothers, et al. I think most lawyers should be lined-up in front of a deep trench. I'll stand behind Burge, and remain there, before I get in line with the Peoples Law Office. The recollection of the traffic traffic stop at 81st and Throop by two other police officers twenty-five years ago demands that much.
COMMANDER JOHN BURGE IS AN AMERICAN HERO!!!
HE FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST COP KILLERS, AND MURDERERS AND THE LIBERAL LEFTIST WANT TO USE HIM FOR THEIR GUILT.
FUCK THEM!!!!
I WENT TO HIS RALLY YEARS AGO AND AGAIN I'LL LIFT A GLASS IN HONOR OF JOHN BURGE, A COP'S COP.
WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER.
THE ONLY BOSS WITH FUCKING BALLS.
IF YOU DON'T GET IT THEN YOU AIN'T THE POLICE.
Anybody see that PIECE of SHIT YUPPIE on the news last night when they were talking about the little girl that was run over at Belden and LPW? This know it all PIECE of SHIT had the audacity to say that the Police need to get out of the coffee shops and start enforcing the law. I hope that I see him one day.I will tell him in no uncertain terms what a PIECE of SHIT he is and to get his head out of his ass. All of a sudden (according to this PIECE of SHIT), it is the fault of the Police that this little girl was killed. Heres a big FUCK YOU you worthless,know it all, PIECE of SHIT.
Hey Richie come over by here...
You know youse is part of da "FAMILY"......
And wit dis comes responsibility and RESPECT... which you ain't gots lately.
You know dat piece, no NOT DAT KINDA PIECE, but dat piece in da paper about the ROTTI'S.
Listen you gots to pull in dos reporters you owns at the Suns Times and tell dems to lay da FUCK OFF OR ELSE!!!
We gots a GOOD FUCKING TING WIT PHILLY ON BOARD, YOU KNOW.
Ain't no mores Organized Crime Unit around to nip at our heels.
Again tell Philly DA BOYS ARE REAL, REAL, GREATFULL for doing business wit us. HE'S A GOOD BOY. But listen Richie, he got's to take care of himself, you know. Now is NOT THE RIGHT TIME to be making friends like we have in PHIL.
I tell you dis "G" shit got every fucking wiseguy laying da fuck low like they can't even speaks. Fuck I hate's dees G motha fuckers!!!
You knows I tink dat article in da Times is all wrong.
They talk about the Hired Truck ting, like it's been around since your old man "God Rest His Soul", but I mean wat da FUCK it's business!!!
Don't let dem fuck your mind up wit dat youse being State's
Attorney when all of dem cases, you know, which concerned our FRIENDS, WERE NEVER PROSECUTRED OR DA JUDGE RULED AGAINST DEM FALSE ACCUSATIONS BROUGHT BY DA COPS.
Dis is just a mind fuck, if youse will.
Let me git to da point, so jus relax. You will, and I'm not saying maybe, but DIS COMES FROM OUR FRIENDS, BUT YOU WILL, not say a ting bout dis shit till we find a new, how does they say it's in the military, till we FINDS A NEW AVENUE OF APPROACH for these motha fuckers.
You know dis hired truck and Streets and Sans ting was FUCKING GREAT.
Thank god da "G" never looked for DNA in da back of dem garbage trucks.
Well anyways dats it, you can go now, oh wait a minute!
Listen Richie, tell Tom, you know da Little Tom Byrne, da BOYS appreciate him going to bat for us wit dat asphalt ting, you know da missing asphalt which he says was a calculation error or whatever da fuck it means. Tell half pint Tom he's in good wit da boys.
HEY RICHIE, HEY RICHIE, talk to youse later.
Hey anyone know that hottie F/WH in OCD, I believe either Vice or Narcotics. She is gorgeaous?????
12:16 you're preaching to the choir. Lets look at what happened for a moment at the tragic situation from the Yuppius Headupasses point of view: a family goes to the zoo, family crosses street w/in the crosswalk where there is a stop sign. Mr. I'm extremely fucking important in his Lexus is probably on his cell phone talking to his buddy about the bim he boffed on friday night, is so full of himself that he disregards said stop sign. Hitting the mother, her son and 3 year old child, which by the way may have survived if asshat had locked the brakes, instead of hauling ass and dragging the girl underneath his car to her death. As you can see, the Yuppius, a card carrying member of the democratic party, cannot blame the victim (which he is correct), cannot blame the environment where this occured. Yet, in his convoluted reasoning will blame the police before he will EVER place the blame where it squarely belongs, THE OFFENDER. And we wonder why this country is going to shit? My prayers go out to the family for their tragic loss, and I hope both asshats enjoy their brokeback lives for all eternity in hell. Stay safe y'all.
well said doctor
What kind of parent "assumes" that a car is going to stop at a stop sign, anyway?
I've noticed that many Northsiders and people who work downtown walk into the street without even looking if there's a stop sign or if they have the light. You just can't do that anymore. Most people view a stop sign as a yield sign these days and only slow down to about 20 mph before they accellerate through an intersection. If I had to write everyone who blew a stop sign I'd have to forget about answering the radio and write 4 out of 5 drivers at any given intersection. This isn't to excuse the driver of that Lexus or to blame the parent, it's just a fact these days. Sad, but true.
Why is everything the police's fault? Mule stubs his toe its the POLEZZE fault. Why does anyone even car about this job? I do respect the star a wear and fallen coppers but this job is getting worse. Higher ups dont want workers just social workers. As for Williams being Sup good luck whitey coppers!!!!!
douple, triple ,quadruple,
jeopardy ???
The attack on J.B. is nothing more than a racial attack by relatives of killers and killers themselves for his outstanding efforts at placing the killers behind bars.
His accusers are liars and murdering scum.
Their defending money slobbering
lawyers are scum as well.
If you weren't there do not spread false rumors. The dead victims of the accusing killers can speak for themselves. Those courtroom accounts defining, in detail, the horrorific acts of the killer scum
should be published in bold print...everyone of them.
I only ask where are their families now? Why are they silent?
I will tell you for a fact that John Burge made me confess to a murder I did not comit. But he never got me to confess to all the other murders and rapes that I did do.
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2) I recently hit a young fawn with my new Hummer. The splatter of technicolor gore across my hood and windshield was amazing! I immediately stopped to call my Hummer Dealer to find out if deer spleen stains. Problem was, I couldn’t hear the guy on the phone over the agonized mewling of the mangled fawn. Do you have any idea?
3) My friend and I have a bet. He says that a goldfish will survive the puree setting on the blender, and I think it won’t. I need to win this one because I lost the "cats always land on their feet" bet. Anyway, we’re going to do a series of tests at each blender setting. Any idea where we can get some cheap goldfish?
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CHRIST! This is one lucky copper... He, however, doesn't know the true meaning of I.O.D. Up and running in 3 MONTHS??? Damn.
http://www.dailysixer.com/copchest.shtml
How appropriate that this hatred comes out on a thread about Burge. I really, really hope the public is reading this so that they will see how free the CPD is of bias and hate. Good job guys!
Apparently you've never had to testify. Go back to filling out the transmittals or whatever clerical work it is you do.
How appropriate that this hatred comes out on a thread about Burge. I really, really hope the public is reading this so that they will see how free the CPD is of bias and hate. Good job guys!
5/22/2006 04:49:08 PM
Yeah, cause it's obvious that all 13,000 of us helped to type that. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, until you hear something you don't like, eh?
Go back to filling out the transmittals or whatever clerical work it is you do.
5/22/2006 05:01:57 PM
Standard response #3.
When in doubt, or presented with a logical argument, immediately call the other person a "boss" or allege that they must have a "desk job". More options include telling the other person to "drink some more Kool-Aid" or simply, "fuck you".
Fuck You!
Interesting.
From what I can see, it is perfectly alright to use all manner of derogatory terms aimed at blacks and Hispanics on this blog, but if you say something nasty about Jews, it gets deleted rather quickly.
As a group, I just wonder why they always seem to get protected, while everyone else is fair game?
Just a thought...I don't like any of the derogatory stuff, but there seems to be a definite bias here just like in every other media format.
. . . Sad Burge and his bunch at that time bragged like today's Tru Units, Gun Teams, and SWAT Teams . . .
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Just to set the record straight -
"Burge and his bunch" NEVER, I repeat NEVER bragged to anyone about any interrogation.
If you had bosses today the likes of John Burge, this Dept. would not be in the crap hole that it is in now.
John Burge was a great boss and a good man.
Look at the worthless scum that have made the allegations.
Look at the plo and the goofs at N.W. Univ. that have esxposed the alleged wrong doings by the CPD.
One day, when one of their own becomes the victim of one of these mutes, then and only then will J. Burge and the CPD be vilified.
That day will come.
To: 5/22/2006 02:09:13 PM
I actually think you hit the nail on the head. These People Burge and his people dealt with were the SCUM of the Earth. Burge did not have access to the DNA technology that is available today. These OFFENDERS were in the area for a reason. Burge did not pick people at random off the street. All of these J.O.s were either named, picked out or somehow linked to the case. Burge and his Dets are being held up to today's standards by people who do no have a clue. The N.W. University Professors come to mind. On a side note The N.W. University Professors have already had one of their people recant a confession made to them (Welcome to our World) but the news did not make a big deal about it. I'm sorry I'm rambling but this goes to show all of us that we should do as little as possible in the neighborhoods that do not support us. I know there are good people there but none of them ever come to our defense when push comes to shove so SCREW them. As soon as you are able to transfer to your neighborhood and protect the home front. We are all we have.
What's a sheeny? A lawyer?
you can not be serouis GET SOME TIME ON THE JOB
Burge is my idol.
Burge is a criminal. Daley was State's Atty. during that time-the same time all these people got convictied of crimes they were later cleared of. It's not just a coincidence. The system is really fucked up-more so now than ever.
Oh my Gawd. Let's rally around Burge. Area 2 still beats confessions out of motherfuckers and they STILL brag about it. Talk to anyone on the job who worked anywhere near there and they'll tell ya' a story or two about 'how to get a confession' the only people defending him are the ones who were in on the shit.
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