Friday, May 19, 2006

Residency Rule

To the person who keeps posting "LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE" in the comments section, please read the following:
  • Residency is a STATE law. It is written along the lines of "Municipalities with a population of over 1,000,000..." can require residency within the corporate limits of the municipality.
  • As written, it applies to only ONE SINGLE city in the State of Illinois - Chicago.
  • If you go through our archives, you will see that we wrote about a Union meeting we attended (or might not have) where residency was declared "on the table." This is going to be a long fight as long as this mayor is in place.
While we appreciate your enthusiasm and support for actually lifting the rule, how about you direct your efforts to calling the FOP and seeing what kind of help they need in getting the rule lifted. Maybe you can make some phone calls. Maybe you can write some letters. Maybe you can register some voters who will pressure the Legislature to vote for the rule change (don't we have a couple of coppers IN the Legislature?).

Because, trust us on this one, you aren't going to change any laws posting here. We can't even get the FOP to read this site regularly, even when we write them letters.

77 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

First!!!! Well, Its not all its cracked up to be!

5/19/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope they never remove it. I like my home, my neighborhood and all the City has to offer. Even when I retire, I'm staying.

5/19/2006 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to SCC's logic we shouldn't post about any topic on here, since it doesn't change anything. While this is of course true, this still a good place to vent or get a message across.
Also, 8:58 AM, No one would force you to move if the restriction is lifted. As stated before, if your neighborhood is a solid and wonderful as you state, then you should have no worries. However, if it is an overpriced haven where cityworkers have taken refuge from gangsters then you may have a problem.

5/19/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you might be supprised who reads this site. Decision makers value information more than most.
The lack of affordable housing for the working class in chicago is an issue that will come to the fore on its own. We the police, as some of the better paid city workers, are among the last to feel the pain. Ask new teachers, firemen, streets & san, etc...what they think their chances are of ever owning a home in a decent area of this city.
Change will come one way or another.

5/19/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I retire, I will be able to sell my overpriced home and buy 2 very nice houses in other states!! A summer and winter home.......and besides 95% of the coppers wouldn't go anywhere or if they do we could have a whole blog beefing about commute times from the suburbs!!

5/19/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't like residency rule, should have taken another JOB!

5/19/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you can get your old job at K-Mart back and live in Cicero....

5/19/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard attorney's speak at the lodge about residency, orignal comment's were inability to change and law has to be changed first not an easy process.

Saying you don't like residency you should not have taken the job, is like saying you don't like pay and benefit's you should not have taken the job. Come on now get a grip. Anything to improve your working conditions and improving on your employment is worthy. Lifting residency would be an added bonus, but I'm not holding my breath.

5/19/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If somewon seeees Wiiick, haaaave him cawwwl me.

5/19/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A/2 gun team are strokes. big and dumb strokes. they should be called MUSKET STROKES. all they want is them 100year old MUSKETS from 100 year old senior citizens.

5/19/2006 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody is forcing you to sell your home, so dont. I understand to many people that is their investment but for some of us it is not. I knew taking this job 10+ years ago that I had to live here, but times change and we need to roll with those changes. I hate we people say you life residency it will turn to Detroit, are you so vain to think that you moving out of the city will make it crumble??? Trust me the city will go on with out us and do just fine, plus I know alot of people that will not leave cause they have a great place and great area. I say good for them but there comes a point when its all about choice and why not give it to us?? And what about these young guys coming on??? I did like everybody else, lived in an apartment for years until I saved enough to buy a home, but now with these home prices you would have to live in an apartment for double the amount of time to save enough for a nice place. Call me crazy but Im for improving moral and these working conditions.

5/19/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEISER LIVES WHERE HE WANTS, WHAT RESIDENCY RULE? SEISER EATS RESIDENCY RULES FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER.

5/19/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why don't you try to improve your grammar and writing skills?

5/19/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"i hate we peoplo say life residency it will turn to detroit"
what the hell does that mean???

5/19/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CITY WILL NEVER EVER LIFT RESIDENCY RULE!!!!!
AND DAT'S DA TRUTH............

5/19/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago sucks. If they lift the rule I am outta here. BTW 11:27 and 11:42 F*** You!

5/19/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Chicago sucks. If they lift the rule I am outta here. BTW 11:27 and 11:42 F*** You!

5/19/2006 01:38:43 PM

YOU'RE GOING BACK TO K-MART JUNIOR?? YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MIND WHEN YOU GET 3 YEARS ON THE JOB!!!

5/19/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blow me you Bridgeport desk jockey...Are you really that far above evryone else that you have to belittle the poor slob that has to work at k-mart for a living? Like I said F*** You!
I have lived here all my life and have 10+ in a Dist numbered between 13-15. I never worked in a retail FYI. Chicago has changed for the worse, is too damn expensive, has too many stop signs and too many mules! If I could move out I would.Now go f- yourself and get back to kissing the ass of whatever boss you work for you jerk.

5/19/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Blow me you Bridgeport desk jockey...Are you really that far above evryone else that you have to belittle the poor slob that has to work at k-mart for a living? Like I said F*** You!
I have lived here all my life and have 10+ in a Dist numbered between 13-15. I never worked in a retail FYI. Chicago has changed for the worse, is too damn expensive, has too many stop signs and too many mules! If I could move out I would.Now go f- yourself and get back to kissing the ass of whatever boss you work for you jerk.

5/19/2006 02:04:42 PM


WAWAWAWA, poor little cry baby, can't get your job back at K-Mart cause Sears took over in the whopping 10 years you have on the job? Not sure what district you are in? It's a number between 1 and 25 you think??????????.......

5/19/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've said this before.

Start with no residency for those with 20+ on the job.

This would drastically reduce the number of people in the predicted exodus.

Yes, I know that the law must be changed first. At least the Political Action guy got someone to draft something and send it to committee. Yes, I know committee aint shit when it comes to legislation, but it's a start.

As for those who say that we knew the requirement when we took the job...guess what....this city aint what it used to be

5/19/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem is not the city in and of itself it is the lack of good affordable housing. For those who complain about the "new kids" imagine how hard it is for them to buy a home in a good neighborhood to raise their families in. Our increase in wages has not nearly kept up with the increase in housing costs within the city. Take a good hard look we will soon no longer be a blue collar city. It will not be long before all the hard working blue collar families will be out in Plainfield, Huntley, etc.

5/19/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whomever keeps posting no residency doesn't know anything about real estate. Home values would plummet. Ride it out, retire, and then move out.

5/19/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must agree....with everyone.

But there seem to be more and more mules everytime I drive down the street.

5/19/2006 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What abot the fact that Sec 8 people can now use that money to make montly payments on a home mortgage and not rent=we are paying down their mortgage so they can own a home when we have pos who can not purchase homes because of the prices

5/19/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yawn

5/19/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the guy that claims he knows about real estate "The home values will NOT plummet." we are 13000 in a city of over 2 million, some other good law abiding citizen with a good job will be moving into our homes. Can a shithead afford a 400k+ house? I dont think so. I'm sick of hearing this invalid argument.

5/19/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

screw the lift the residency. how about just letting us work nearer our homes. i live in 016 and got promoted to sgt. congrats, enjoy 007. it was fun working there, it was just the 2 hour drive to get there that sucked. anyone else in a district forced to drive over 25 miles to get to work?
thank goodness more got promoted and bidded closer to home but damn those gas fillups for the auto every 3 days. peace my good people

5/19/2006 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 4:27. You stupid jackass. Do you think if the city lifts the no residency rules for po's that maybe just maybe, all city employess will try and get no residency. And how many people does the city employ, and out of the over two million, how many are city employees or family members. Do you think it might put a dent into the decent nieghborhoods. Moron.

5/19/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
6:47:59,Caring has nothing to do with it. People would like to raise their families in a community were the Schools are

5/18/2006 08:22:11 PM

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I know many police that don't care and their tax money go directly to the "most needy"

5/19/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Furthermore 45000 is entrance level - after 18mos, most new PO's are making close to 60,000 a year

Which, if you'd sit donwn and do some math, is no enough nowadays to buy in a nice, safe(r), area witha good CPS (very rare and need a heavy phone call) is VERY expensive. Abnormally expensive. And you know it.

5/19/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

However, to quote from the United States Commission on Civil Rights-as paraphrased by Delattre (2002)-"There is no evidence that city residents make better police officers. In fact, resident officers have been slightly more likely to be suspended or dismissed from the police force for misconduct and are disproportionately the subject of civilian complaints" (p. 323).


Who will defend OUR rights????

5/19/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The health insurance is practically free and is better than most industry policies yet you do nothing but slam FOP and the City.

Teh health care SUCKS, but that is a different thread...

5/19/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we appreciate your enthusiasm and support for actually lifting the rule, how about you direct your efforts to calling the FOP and seeing what kind of help they need in getting the rule lifted. Maybe you can make some phone calls. Maybe you can write some letters. Maybe you can register some voters who will pressure the Legislature to vote for the rule change (don't we have a couple of coppers IN the Legislature?).

ONE MAN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!

5/19/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is NO FREAKING WAY IN HELL ****ANY**** GODDAMN ****RANCH**** in the City of Chicago costs

$464,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

3960 N. Oleander

What a junkie!

Unless that house gives me a bj the momentI walk in, IT'S **NOT** worth that much!

5/19/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those who said we signed on and knew about the residency,our insurance was better too, but the city changed. They changed the game so should we.

5/19/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For a good number of us this city is no where near what it use to be. Shit public schools, over priced housing, crap neighbor hoods out number decent communties. I have 20+ yrs. an changin residency for me would not induce me to stay in Chicago. Born an raised, city sucks the big one now. Just look at all the wonderful leadership that guides this dump. Good luck on your quest.

5/19/2006 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The other poster was right..This city has changed! There's no need for residency any longer! It's not easy for a single income cop to buy a nice home in a nice area. That's the key "nice area!" Who wants to work and live amoungst the animals. It's quality of life for me. There will be families and singles moving into the city forever, just like they are now. The city will be just fine without the few of us that will actually move. P.S. I'm not a 2 year wonder and going on my 13th year on the job.

5/19/2006 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that ranch house costs at least that much in a good area with good schools

5/19/2006 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of interesting comments re: residency (I, for one, wish there was no residency requirement); as an aside, how about some discussion re: the federal government's section 8 housing voucher program....I mean, what effect does anyone see in their area(s) (residence or at work)? It seems to me that the section 8 program will be the eventual death of many city neighborhoods....

5/19/2006 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sec 8 vocher program that will allow people to use the money to pay their mortgage is a CITYWIDE program. There are no requirments, there needs to be no neighborhood input or vote. So while you and your wife will be busting your ass both working to make the mortgage and send your kids to school the person next door will be having over half of their mortgage being paid by you.

5/19/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sec 8
when the yuppi gets smart and comes to the conclusion that a condo at madison/kedzie may not be the best investment the guy stuck holding the bag will......u guessed it.... sec 8 the unit out.
for 5 maybee 10 yrs untill the realestate market changes direction savage will is going to live in the lap of luxury w/ oak floors, granite countertops and stainless steel appliances.
when the market turns around the owner will kick will out and repair/update and sell it to a yupster.
sec 8 .... friend to lazy slugs and real estate developers alike.
no friend to the middle class !

5/19/2006 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best award goes to illegals using SS# of dead people. I guess Gov Blagoff feels our tax dollar's should be spent for their sec. 8 of owning a home at major discounts on our dime. He, Durbin, Obamamawa along with Congressmen Guitzwonderoutz should be run out of office as Traitor's supporting known criminals.

5/19/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH

and another book deal for fallen golden boy OBAMA

5/19/2006 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic

What I can't understand SS has bogus names with fraudlent SS#'s from employer's, yet the gov does nothing but put the money away for a rainy day! Then we have Pol's who are talking about sharing this same money once amme. is granted. You and I try that an watch how fast we end up in a fed Prison. What an insult too laws in this country! Would be nice to sue the various pol's in gov for failure to abide by the law and their conduct. Call it The American Citizen's Class Action Lawsuit.

5/20/2006 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
There is NO FREAKING WAY IN HELL ****ANY**** GODDAMN ****RANCH**** in the City of Chicago costs

$464,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Many banks will let you finance 100% of your mortgage now. For S&G's we will go along with this. Because we sure could not put together the 20% ($92,800!).

$464,000 at 6.21 (best rate out there from www.bankrate.com) for 30 years = $2845 per month.

The traditional mathematics for housing is 1/3 of your take home. Taxes and home owner's insurance included should be. I'll be nice and leave all of that out.

My wife and I are both P.O.'s with 5-6 years exp. Take home about $3,400 / month easy with no major 26th Cal cases pending.

Now *just* the mortgage, (no taxes and ins) that ranch come out to 44.44% (over 2/5) of our take home. Way beyond normalicy.

So, for who is $464,000 for a ranch normal? Still not counting taxes and ins that mortgage payment would be 33.47% (or 1/3) of a monthly take home income of $8,500!

Who here on this blog brings home $8,500 a month?? Please, I would like to here some Sgt's, Lt's and up chime in on their take home dollars.

Me and my wife would need an additional $1,700 increase in our take home, or a 25% raise JUST to get the mortgage (not including taxes or ins) inline with the traditional numbers that did not bankrupt our parents.

Until you see the numbers up front in your face you can't appreciate what WE are going thru.

Lifting the residency rule will not hurt the City. All I am asking is for OPTIONS. I may want to stay and have a shorter commute. I may find a gem of a CPS. All I want is the FREEDOM to make my own choises.

Congrats to those who bought 10-15 years ago! I am very jealous. I too would like to provide to my kids one day what my parents gave me. However, 10 years ago, I was still in college.

Sucks to be me, huh?

5/20/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For shits and giggles, I looked up the $464,000 ranch on the Tribune's website. All property that sells has to be publicly disclosed.

Back in 1999 this guy bought the same house for $181,000. Now the greedy fvck put some paint down, new cabinets and counter tops and wants over double.

listing(s) for: New search
Displaying matches 1-1 |
Sort: Price Date
1. $181,000 06/17/1999
3960 N Oleander Av, Dunning, 60634
to Charles S Welch, from Lasalle Bank Trustee

Good luck!

5/20/2006 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a bill in the Illinois legislature (sponsored by the FOP) seeking to remove the stipulation that only cities over 1,000,000 can have a residency requirement.

This in and of itself will not remove the residency requirement but it WILL put the residency rule on the table and subject to collective bargaining in the next contract. Since they all go to arbitration an arbotrator will probably decide this one, if the law is passed.

And property values will not plummet. For that to happen, all 13,000 (or 11,000) would have to put their houses on the market at the same time and not everyone owns and not everyone would leave. I doubt it would have much of a dent in values.

5/20/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave Gerald Bremen alone. Any of you would use your clout if you had any. He did what all of you wish you could do. You wish you could get away with it. Just like Aguinagua (however you spell his name). They are my heros. She wanted just as bad!

5/20/2006 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Residency:

City of Chicago
House:small garage sized 1000 sq ft
$400,000
Private Schools b/c Public suck:
$9,000/yr
Taxes:
9%

No Residency
Anywhere but Chicago
House: Starter mansion 3000 sq ft
$400,000
House2: Two $200,000 houses
Public schools, some of the best
$0
Taxes:
6.75%

Many municipalities have arbitrated residency out of existance when it was a state law. Get your facts right.

1984 48 hr law goes into effect state and nationwide, requiring law enforcement to hold suspects only 48 hours. 2005 City of Chicago starts 48 hr rule only after a class action law suit. estimated judgment 900 million.

You decide what it takes to change the minds of Chicago politicians.

I. Fish

5/20/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding residency...I did a little research and found that out of the 50 most populated cities in the country, less than 10 have residency requirements for their police personnel. These cities are demographically and economically diverse, especially in comparison to Chicago. We're talking about Milwaukee, Memphis, Philly, Boston, New Orleans, Sacramento (w/in 1 year of employment), & KC, MO.

Unfortunately, residency requirements have been deemed constitutional in several federal jurisdications. Obviously, this is the case for us, thanks to the IL Attorney General. Basically, the only positive is that the policy cannot be made more restrictive. Yet, this is happening naturally, as suitable neighborhoods in which to live are disappearing and are unattainable due to housing prices.

However, to quote from the United States Commission on Civil Rights-as paraphrased by Delattre (2002)-"There is no evidence that city residents make better police officers. In fact, resident officers have been slightly more likely to be suspended or dismissed from the police force for misconduct and are disproportionately the subject of civilian complaints" (p. 323).

It's time to hold the FOP more accountable for our standard of living. There's something wrong when my husband and I-both whom are PO's-cannot even afford to buy a home.

5/20/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 5/20/2006 08:55:12 AM

Facts come from Donahue at FOP General Meeting. If you can't believe him, well... Oh never mind. I forgot he is still in the police department where if your partner tells you it's raining you better look for yourself.

Arbitrator will maybe get a chance to throw it out, first the labor law must be changed. This might happen. If so, adios high taxes, high insurance rates and all the rest. Leave it for yuppie Ohio and Michigan transplants to buy the 600,000 two bedroom condos. Few real neighborhoods left anyway, at least for decent folk.

Probably will get stuck still having to buy a city vehicle sticker even if we ever can live out.

5/20/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was working when tac locked up that Sanford creep in 002. He escaped from custody but cant run for shit!! He likes to fight the police. Also has been arrested for UUW and resisting. Keep an eye on him if he's in your hood.

5/20/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's Sanford?

5/20/2006 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Live's on 2511's beat.
Convicted sex offender.
Bruce Sanford
Likes hanging out watching the kids at Dever school play lot. His new squeeze had kids that go there.

5/20/2006 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing is certain the city will fight the residency tooth and nail. If it where to happen I could see just the bordering communties as a starter. For you apt/condo dwellers more affordable and nicer units outside the city, along with better schools.

Don't know bout city sticker issue, un-just if other citizens don't buy but work in the city. I know you would buy the sticker just to get out, still odd though.

I wish they would give 20 yrs @ 75% instead of the current 25. The city is headed toward pension changes they and not we need to give up something big.

5/20/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5:57, You still don't have a clue! Even if all the city employees moved out, who cares. Do you think that the rest of our "wonderfull" city employees keep this city in check? what cloud are you living on? Educate yourself on a topic before you have the little balls to argue it, you new or something? In addition to being the Police here, I'm in real estate, and have lived in NYc where half of the city employees dont live in NYc. They're crime rate is great given their population and what it used to be, their property values are even greater. Furthermore, at least half of us wouldnt leave anyhow, if youre in 016,008, and a few of the other good pockets in the city I think you would stay anyhow. Just because thats all you here around this department doesnt mean its true. Do some friggin research before you open your mouth!

5/20/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those naive people on this job, the Residency law CAN be changed. Its has nothing to do with the Da' mayor. Its about doing something about something you support instead of bitching about it like introducing a bill via a legislator downstate. If you do some research, in Illinois alone there have been over 80 challenges in other municipalities to lift their residency. Guess what. All of them have managed to get it repelled. all of them! Not one of them lost. Because the municipality has to show a valid argument as to why its detrimental for the police not to live in the city. And, they have'nt been to prove that. Just like the city of Chicago won't be able to prove it. Its a little different here because it a law that applies to us, but the argument is exactly the same. Its just going to take awhile and require us And the FOP to get serious about it and take an action.

5/20/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/20/2006 11:50:05 AM
In addition to being the Police here, I'm in real estate,

If you're in real estate, and you think 008 is a good place to live???? You may want to do a bit more research yourself. Especially review crime stats, against "pockets" of nice neighborhoods. 008 is not what it was 20 years ago, and neither is this dept.

Residency requirement is a law. And if the Law changes, than nothing has to be negotiated. FOP will attempt to change the LAW, and then ask the officers to give something up in their contract negotiations to activate the LAW changes.

If the LAW changed, then it WOULD be unconstitutional for the city to continue with residency requirements.

However, the writing is on the wall. The FOP is pushing for the legislation to be changed, and then will ask the PO's to forfeit their medical time. A lot of the 1-5 year guys may think this not a bad choice. But remember, anyone and everyone who bemoans the medical - YOU TOO one day shall become old. Unfortunately good health is not an option or personal choice. Medical problems can be genentic but also can be a side affect from stress. Now weigh your chances wisely. Not only is there stressors from being the police,eating habits, and sleep patterns (all effected by our job) THEN when you have a department that promotes ass-kissing, back-stabbing, and bosses can pick or choose which federal laws they'll honor or violate at the drop of a hat, ALL STRESSORS that will effect your health, and some day you may need our medical!! So, don't be hasty to give it up without some serious thoughts!!!

5/20/2006 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

However, the writing is on the wall. The FOP is pushing for the legislation to be changed, and then will ask the PO's to forfeit their medical time. A lot of the 1-5 year guys may think this not a bad choice. But remember, anyone and everyone who bemoans the medical - YOU TOO one day shall

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Well, there is the rub. If the law can be eliminated, then saya big FU to their negotiations!

5/20/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im tired of hearing from those of you who bash those of us who want the residency rule gone. You must have bought 8 to 10 years ago when it was still affordable. Luck you.
Yes I knew the requirement when I took this job. Two kids later and $8,500 a year for two kids in high school because the CPS sucks, I can't afford to upgrade from by two bedroom home.
It will be a cold day in hell for me to move into a less desirable area just to save money. Im a north sider and cant just uproot my family, friends, schools and work location just to go south, which by the way has some very nice areas but also has been affected by the upward swing of the housing market.
Lets get real here. I like my job. I do my job well. The city gets there money's worth out of me. I have made many sacrafices to continue working for the police department. I wasn't available for countless family events. My kids had social and school events that I could not attend. I took this job to be the police and continue to do so. I just want the chance to get a bigger & newer home in a nice community with better schools. Thats all any person wants. And an option that every other than city worker can't have. I would continue to contribute to Chicago as a good police officer.
Brand new construction Huntington home, 4 bedroom, 2 bath 1.5 acr Home in some burbs can be purchased for $275.000. My 2 bedroom built in the 40's with leaking basement and old electric just refinanced for $295.000. Couldn't make many repairs because I need to secure highschool for my kids. What is so bad to ask for some options to improve my home living conditions. (Or what is left of home life after 6 day work weeks and court on day 7.)
New Firefighters, teachers and other city workers are really screwed. Unless they have a working spouse and even another side job, it will be years before they see home ownership.
You can have this city living. I want out.

5/20/2006 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, just because you bought a house on the North side for a rediculously high price, don't blame others for your bad choice. You can get the same house on the South side for (at least) 1/3 less with more space to park, lower property taxes, lower priced private schools and no man-boy lovers walking down the street swapping spit. You'd probably have a heart attack if you saw my house, my neighborhood, and my monthly mortgage payment which I refinanced down to 15 years over three years ago. Location, location, location... it costs waaaay too much on the North side. The only sacrifice I made is that I have to drive over a mile to get a cup of Starbucks coffee, where as you only have to walk 100 feet in any direction to get one. I'm happy where I'm at. Don't blame me for your bad choice.

5/21/2006 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous NEVER GIVE BACK said...

I will ALSO ADD DON'T LET YOUR MEDICAL BENEFIT GO, YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP SOMETHING THAT WAS WON. Always get background how this benefit came about. There is enough of a valid argument for residency via of pension issues, escalating housing prices not keeping pace with income. Just look at what the city did with your uniform and duty avail. monies, taxed, taxed. Think lng. and hard, you will reqret it in the near future. I'm KMA but many of you have a lng way to go. THINK, THINK!

5/21/2006 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought a new home in garfield Ridge in 008 in 1990 paid $187,000 Corner Quad level now worth $450.000 But the taxes are at $2,900 Yearly. Sent Kids to Ignatius expensive yes but great school. Work CTA,Cha,Tara to pay for it! Nice area but I can understand younger Po's with the affordability issue it would be hard to afford now we have new homes being built on 51st and Parkside small lot over $500,000 to start plus taxes at 1-2% of purchase price! Kennedy High school is full of bused in trash from the west side and gang bangers from 18th street! If the CPS (Shit schools) would make the schoold neighborhood and not bus in shit areas would be great to send our kids to these schools.

5/21/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5/21/2006 12:40:17 AM,

Hi south sider! And when you're finished lowering the drawbridge to cross the moat around your castle say hello to your neighbor, duke! Idiot.

5/21/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

eliminating residency for police would require them to do it for all city employees. If you are like me you live in an area with a high percentage of city employees as neighbors. City wide it might not be an issue but it sure will hit my area hard if residency is dropped. NW & SW sides can really be hurt. LakeView, hyde Park etc wont even notice. Not till the first snow storm when no one can make it in on I90 or I94

5/21/2006 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Hi south sider! And when you're finished lowering the drawbridge to cross the moat around your castle say hello to your neighbor, duke! Idiot...."

Nope, they're about 5 miles away from me. I'm block from Harlem Ave. On the other hand, my ex-partner has Section 8 down the block from him, and he lives in Edison Park. Try as you might, you can't convince me that you didn't make a poor investment. Oh, and you baseball up there team sucks too!

5/21/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"your"

5/21/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dyslexic

5/21/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Join the NRA only $35 and help protect the freedoms of honest Americans!

5/22/2006 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

residency is dropped. NW & SW sides can really be hurt. LakeView, hyde Park etc wont even notice. Not till the first snow storm when no one can make it in on I90 or I94

5/21/2006 07:17:56 PM

Nice scare tactic. Streets & Sans isn't exactly Johnnie On The Dot now

5/22/2006 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys gotta be kiddin me. Do you think that if we all moved out the City would collapse? It won't, believe me. The only people that don't want to live here are the Police. I live in Norwood Park. One of my neighbors moved in last year and paid 379K for the home. It's a small corner home, one car garage with no yard. He gutted it and is adding a second floor and a few other things. The entire job has to be setting him back AT LEAST 200-250K. Another neighbor is doing the same thing. And another. NONE OF THEM WORK FOR THE CITY! It's amazing. So if you think the City will fall apart if we are allowed to move out, your nuts.
To my southside brothers. I too used to think the northside was way over priced and that I would never buy here. And I was right, it is over priced. But in the short period of time I've owned this home (3 years), the value has probably gone up 200K. And that will go up as the years go by. So while I did pay a ridiculous price for my home it was a good investment. But besides all that, it's a great place to live. There is NO comparision between Garfield Ridge, Clearing or any other southside neighborhood and Norwood Park, Edgebrook, Wildwood or Edison Park. It's apples and oranges. Do yourself and your family a favor. One Sunday when you have nothing to do, come out here and take a look around at some of the open houses. Be honest, realize that the homes may be a little smaller and more expensive but don't let the prices scare you. If you find something you like,do everything that you can to swing the deal. You will NOT regret it.

5/22/2006 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6 years ago I got divorced. My ex and my kids moved out to the SW burbs. Built a new house, brick, 1/4 acre, 4 Bedrooms, 2 car garage, 2 1/2 baths. Breat public schools ----$195,000. It has gone up in value property taxes are going up and you can only water your lawn on even days. Wish I could move out that way to be closer. However it will be a few years and then I can.

5/22/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dual income 5-6 year P.O. with no major 26th Cal cases: $6800 month take home.

$6800 / month * 12 months = $81,600.

Traditional limit to housing spending = 3 times take home.

$81,600 * 3 = $244,800

5/22/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New city workers? The only way is th southwest side. Forget the North side 2 bedroom 600 square foot boolshit. It aint worth it to pay $500k for a 50 year old ranch, Wake up dumb asses. I recently bought a 3 bedroom ranch for 240k with a 40 x 160 lot. Needs a little work, but well worth it. No shitheads, and all neighbors are city workers. Go Mt.Greanwood!!!

5/23/2006 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got a good deal but your surrounded by shit. Everytime you leave the neighborhood you have to go through armed checkpoints from what I hear. Reminds me of Israel. Surrounded by shit. Nobody in or out without stopping by the guard shack.

5/23/2006 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Telling you where you have to sleep is like telling you who you have to sleep with.

5/25/2006 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, thanks for the great idea.
Quit my job and go back to Kmart.
With the shitty pay I will qualify for section 8, (As you said, will pay half my house payment), get back some of the money I paid into SS which I will never see thanks to Dan Rosti...
Once I get in, I will stick out like a sore thumb, since I have a responsible work ethic and education, The mopes working there will soon be calling me BOSS.
I won't have to arrest goofs anymore. I wont have to go to 26th & cal on my days off, Wont have to worry about the INSPECTOR. OOOOOOO the INSPECTOR! Who cares if my Walmart shirt isn't a REGULATION uniform shirt.
Fuck this city. Fuck this police department. Im DONE. You can have it. Im looking and ready. Go ahead and call me whatever you want. Tell me what a bitch I am, Tell me I have no balls, or that Im a crybaby. Who cares! The police get no respect. Media and citizens think were a joke. Next, we will be picking up the mail, stopping at Dominicks and dropping everything off at the yuppies house during our daily STATION ASSIGNMENT. Holding out our hand for a tip or free food. But since the city wont let us take the tip, might as well hand me food stamps insted.
Fellow P.O's. Be careful. Watch your back. Remember, family first. Take care of those who love you and need you. Payday is on the 1st & 16th, with a little in between. Don't risk your safety, health and home for these animals. They will shit on you, then let the media take the leftovers.
By guys, It's been an experience.
Sincerely,
Anonymous on the next early retirement list.

5/26/2006 11:29:00 AM  

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