Bad Dispatchers
We've gotten a couple letters over the past few weeks citing some instances where officers and supervisors are calling for assists and the dispatcher is cutting them off or ignoring them completely to get jobs out that happen to have gone over the limit.
This is asinine. This is stupid. This is dangerous.
You have a civilian dispatcher worried about some arbitrary time limit that is set by some other knucklehead who hasn't worked a beat car in years (if they ever worked a beat car in their lives). Stupid stupid stupid. Someone (hopefully, one of the retired bosses working down at OEMC as watch supervisors) can remind the civilians that the arbitrary time limits placed on certain types of jobs are just that - ARBITRARY. If it isn't "In Progress," a #1 priority job or a 10-1, it can wait if something else pops up on the zone.
If the City wants to clear the air for jobs, get us computers that work more than 50% of the time. Get us manpower on the streets to handle the volume we already have. And we hope that someone called the FOP to file a few safety grievances. Squeaky wheels get the grease. Squeak away people. Make it a training issue for dispatchers - they're messing with you going home in one piece.
This is asinine. This is stupid. This is dangerous.
You have a civilian dispatcher worried about some arbitrary time limit that is set by some other knucklehead who hasn't worked a beat car in years (if they ever worked a beat car in their lives). Stupid stupid stupid. Someone (hopefully, one of the retired bosses working down at OEMC as watch supervisors) can remind the civilians that the arbitrary time limits placed on certain types of jobs are just that - ARBITRARY. If it isn't "In Progress," a #1 priority job or a 10-1, it can wait if something else pops up on the zone.
If the City wants to clear the air for jobs, get us computers that work more than 50% of the time. Get us manpower on the streets to handle the volume we already have. And we hope that someone called the FOP to file a few safety grievances. Squeaky wheels get the grease. Squeak away people. Make it a training issue for dispatchers - they're messing with you going home in one piece.
posted by SCC at 5:02 PM
264 Comments:
they all suck , when they aint hittin on ya via the PDT, and wanting to party with the police all the time. (the new generation of police groupies) they all wanna talk over you and act like theyre the boss.
Some of them do suck....really bad, I won't name Skuggs or anyone like that. My partner and I were in a foot chase, and I came over the air, a little stressed and a little out of breath calling out my beat. She ignored me and kept trying to give out the "Red" disturbances. What a piece of work.
About 6 years ago, there was a really bad one on Zone 3 (013/014) on 3rd watch. I can't remember her name, but she's a psycho.
We had it out a few times. One incident sticks out, though. I was calling for an assist. When one of the responding cars arrived and called a slow down, her response was, "Where are you?"
His response was, "Where the car was calling for an assist."
After all was said and done, she had the nerve to get snippy with the assist car so I told her if she couldn't handle the job, go work somewhere else.
She went crying to her WC. He, in turn called my WC and I got called in. I explained what happened and his response was, "fuck her."
Danny the drunk driving through 019!!!
http://www.dannyscontentment.net/dannys_contentment/files/drunk1.mov
My personal favorites are the ones on 019/023 and 013/014 who can barely speak English. Good luck trying to understand WTF these women (and a few men) are saying.
You better hope the others on the zone are listening up for your location if the shit hits the fan, or else kiss your ass goodbye.
Did OEC outsource the dispatch job to Mexico, Puerto Rico, India and Compton?
Zone 7 2-10 bitch is THE WORST. NEVER knows where people are at, who ran what plate.. if you run a plate you will have to keep asking for it YOU'LL NEVER get it!!@ETC ETC. You'll go down on a street stop and you'll come back to your PDT and she put a 1A job on your PDT even though you told her on the air you were busy. All the supervisors know but do nothing. Mark my words people she is going to get someone killed. Switch over if you don't believe me. She's the one that calls a Honda Maxim a Honda Maximum. Illiterate asshole.
SCC, I'll bring this to the appropriate attention, but this is the system set up by the CPD brass. WTF did you expect? I'll address points in order:
>>instances where officers and supervisors are calling for assists and the dispatcher is cutting them off or ignoring them completely to get jobs out that happen to have gone over the limit.<<
This should absolutely never happen, and if its true it will always show up on the tape. This is something where a complaint should always be filed. On the one hand, if the complaining PO is right than the dispatcher is being dangerous. On the other hand, if the complaining PO is wrong, than they need to get retrained on how to use their radio.
>>This is asinine. This is stupid. This is dangerous.<<
Agreed, if this is true.
>>You have a civilian dispatcher worried about some arbitrary time limit that is set by some other knucklehead who hasn't worked a beat car in years (if they ever worked a beat car in their lives).<<
Maybe. As far as I know, there are still a few POs down there, though the retirees are all gone. As for the arbitrary time limits, perhaps its time to set the record straight here once again. Communications has ALWAYS led the city in the number of complaints and the number of sustained complaints. Long before the OEMC came into existence. Do you think the complaints are for speaking ebonics? For telling bosses, good or bad, to go fuck themselves? Er, scratch that second one, its happened more than once. But what do you think the sustained complaints are for? Two things, in order: Rudeness to callers and delay of dispatch. Who came up with these time limits and priorities? Why, the motherfucking CPD did? Who instituted and enforced the OEMC's discipline policy from the start? Why two retired sergeants from the motherfucking CPD!
This in no way excuses ignoring a car calling an emergency. That shit is fucked up, if true. I'd complain about it even if it were my own family member being accused, as it ain't gonna stop until someone doing this is confronted with it.
>>Someone (hopefully, one of the retired bosses working down at OEMC as watch supervisors) can remind the civilians that the arbitrary time limits placed on certain types of jobs are just that - ARBITRARY.<<
Good luck with that one. I think there is only one of the originals left. Anyone know Ron Simmons?
As it was, of the 100 or so retirees who went down there originally, POs and supervisors alike, there were about 10 who were skilled dispatchers. Most of the supervisors (retired CPD bosses) learned in about 1 month that it was a job they had no business having and learned to leave the best workers alone as long as they stayed on the busy zones. Regardless, if this stuff is true, than please call and ask someone to listen to the tape.
>>If it isn't "In Progress," a #1 priority job or a 10-1, it can wait if something else pops up on the zone.<<
Fuck that. Anything except a 10-1 can wait if someone else calls in an emergency. I can see on zone 6 or 10 throwing out a multiple-call agg-batt in 008 if a PCS foot chase in 007 goes on too long, but thats more about common sense than the rules.
>>If the City wants to clear the air for jobs, get us computers that work more than 50% of the time. Get us manpower on the streets to handle the volume we already have. And we hope that someone called the FOP to file a few safety grievances. Squeaky wheels get the grease. Squeak away people. Make it a training issue<<
Agreed on all points. If this happens, you definitely need to have a supervisor call and complain. But, at the same time, I know where this clusterfuck finds its genesis, and you need look no further than the CPD to find who wrote the rules they are trying to follow.
The dispatchers are fine. Its all you dog-ass cops who stay down on jobs. Or do a anti-violence mission. All of you just hide all the time. And my favorite, 5 cars assisting on 1 gun arrest! Oh, got to have that honorable. DO YOUR JOBS, COPPERS!
i think ron rufo is one hell of a copper...
Fuck you, squad. Trade in your headset,your comfortable, ergonomic comfort chair, for a duty belt, vest and nasty-ass squad car. Then tell me to my job. Arrogant on-looker.
Zone 10 has some solid dispatchers espically the 1st and 2nd watch.
The worst dispatcher on Zone 2 is the POLICE!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we could get a civilian.........Wanna trade??
Here's my take:
First watch dispatchers on zone 9 are great
First watch dispatchers on zone 8 are good too
Lenti, the Zone 4 Sharon?
No one can beat Bill Leonard who retired years ago. Used to work zone 8 then citywide 1. A prince of a dispatcher (and also the PO-lice)
Zone 13 dispatchers (all watches)are good at what they do. They know who the DOGS are and who the WORKERS are. Usually the visiting or relief dispatchers are the worst. They (visiting/relief crew)usually screw up the p.o. asking for an assist call. Love the dispatcher that calls out the "gangsters."
I concur about Zone 9 1st watch..great dispatchers
How about the M/1 ex-dispacher who red lined a couple of coppers in 009 after trading smart remarks with them on the radio. Then he gets on the job and goes to 009 on 3rd watch. Gets moved to 1st watch after some confrontations and gets his tires slashed the 1st night on midnights. NOW HE IS DEMANDING TO WORK INSIDE ON DAYS. And clueless geno will accomodate him i'm sure. Un-F#$%^ing-real!!!!
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!!!
Captain Ed Lenti #61 said...
But we won't mention Sharon by name.....that would be wrong!
5/16/2006 06:12:00 PM
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Sharon's good people.
Bill Leonard was one of the 10. Loved, loved, loved that guy and I think most everyone down there did too. FWIW, after he was off the radios, he was a trainer (classroom, simulations etc.) for a few years on 3rd watch.
Zone 6 First Watch....Simply The Best. The Regulars are at least. We had one leave to be a trainer on days.
Yeah, I love zone 6 dispatchers, but lately we have had some idiots. Carlos is the absolute best, and even though some complain that Jaimie has an attitude, I think she is great. Annie, Karen, Pat and Mike know what they are doing too. Some of the ones I have heard lately have voices that drive you absolutely insane and are clueless. There is one F-1 that talks constantly outloud and you can never get a word in. And another M-1 that sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles.
Maybe half the civilians they've made trainers worked zone 6 regularly for at least one year on third or first. 6 is far and away the most stressful radio to work, but nobody up there complains much about 007 or anybody but the occasional boss in 008. Don't know how any of y'alls don't have an ulcer after listening to 6 for a year or two.
Zone 5 2nd watch Kit and Isabell The 2 best dispatchers down there
Zone 6 regular dispatchers are the best. Can't say too many good things about them.
stan on zone 10 was great new the police and new the streets, plus he had personality
Zone 8 dispatchers on 1st watch were horrible. They would tell their friends on the squad cars when a hot call was coming out and their friends would go down on a traffic stop. Horrible. They screwed up quite a few times on foot chases and keeping track of important things.
I concur, Zone 6 regular dipatchers rock !!! Anyone else want to smack that little biotch on City-Wide 2? All we want are ET's , if we want attitude, we'll stay on the streets. I want to reach through the mic and choke her some days.
The best (civilian) dispatching crew ever was Gina, Dawn and Kim on Zone 10 back in the late 90's. They were trained by the real POLICE back when dispatch was out of 11th and State and they regularly ran two foot chases at the same time when 010/011 were hopping and knew the job inside and out. Stan was always a prince and his fill in days were a riot. Zone 10 still has good dispatchers but the old crew is all gone now.
some time ago I was involved in vehicle pursuit in 012. Car taken in a Car-Jacking.. See the vehicle near the ABLAs and the chase is on, call it in. and a marked vehicle(w/ great copper) joins in., Dude crashes in the village,row houses, and two mutts flee on foot, Marked on foot chasing him to the high rise and me on foot chasing thru the low rise. Got him down, calling for an assist trying to give location and panting, but am constantly interupted by dispatcher telling me to terminate the chase per a supervisor, well it was and now a foot pursuit. Later listening to the tape, we hear the dispatcher complaining to her supervisor that we are NOT terminating the chase (it's a foot pursuit). It worked out OK but what a tool.
I concur zone 6 has the best, on the ball staff out there. My favorite is 2nd and third watch. Jaime rocks!!!!Sometimes we get the occasional fill in that f-1 sounds so gangsta, I need a jive interp.
Stan was the best. Worked with him in 011 years ago. Great copper even greater dipatcher. Stan knew every one of the regular coppers on Zone 10 by their voice. They should of had him training some of the new dipatchers, the midnight dipatchers on Zone 6 are in his league. If only they would bring Pat back it would be perfect.
That was a good crew on zone 10, and those were three of maybe ten or fifteen people that anyone trusted up there back then. Not sure about your timeline though.
A bit like I'd imagine it is on your job, nobody really knows nuthin until they've actually tried to do it for awhile. Ain't no way you can teach someone the old zone 10 in a classroom.
This is to 6:37:43 pm
Get your facts straight! The exdispatcher you are talking about did not get moved because of confrontations.
#1 He, like all other PPO's youself included rotate watches.
#2 The 1st Lt. requested via To/From that he be moved for his safety. The officer himself asked not to be moved.
#3 "Clueless Gene" was on furlo during this incident and the acting D/C was the Capt from 1st Watch was the one making the call.
This is how rumors start asshole.
The best (civilian) dispatching crew ever was Gina, Dawn and Kim on Zone 10 back in the late 90's. They were trained by the real POLICE back when dispatch was out of 11th and State and they regularly ran two foot chases at the same time when 010/011 were hopping and knew the job inside and out. Stan was always a prince and his fill in days were a riot.
5/16/2006 08:34:00 PM
TRU DAT!!!!!!
And speaking of the old zone 10, was the female PO in 012 mentioned in the other thread one of the original civilian dispatchers? Someone with that last name used to work the old zone 10 on first watch in '94/'95 at 1121 before she went on your job.
The all time, biggest pain in the ass was on zone 11, Mark Kniff(sp). He was a number one jagoff, arrogant m-f. His only redeeming quality was that he knew how to dispatch during 10-1's.
He lived in 020 and had to park his car far, far away from his house. One time an P.O. threatened to come down to 11th & State and kick his ass.
He was off the air for about 2 hours after that.
The day he retired, overbody told him to burn in hell. Then about 6 months later, I heard his voice on zone 2. Eeeeek!
Score one for the good guys, details are sketchy but 011 district Sgt. shoots and kills armed offender at Division/Monticello. Sgt is well and offender, oh well. Stay safe
Stan the Man from Zone 10...what a great guy. Anyone remember "Good evening ladies and gents, this is KBA 200 Chicago Police Department, Point-to-Point, Zone 10 in the Wild Kingdom!" You always knew that Stan had your back no matter what. He ran that zone like no other. Always a little humor in everything.."Ok, 10xx, that plate comes back to a '91 Fix-Or-Repair-Daily with two slammers"...
I miss you, Stan. They don't make 'em like you anymore.
The regular girls on zone 13 on 2 -10 are great. They throw it back at the cars when they try to get wise. Besides it's a real tough job when most of the officers out there are dogging it 80 to 90 percent of the time.
Also, that dispatcher turned P.O. may not have been liked alot when he was at OEC but I hear him volunteering for jobs as a P.O. when all the rest of the 3 year salty veterans are dogging it on the couch at Tulsa. At least he is trying to earn his living
Just FYI...
Management didn't have the intelligence to include this one simple instruction in the department notice regarding ET requests on CW-2:
Hold the key down for a BRIEF MOMENT LONGER than the regular ZONE frequency BEFORE speaking.
It takes MORE TIME for the transmissions to go through when a PO pushes down on the fucking button.
One would figure that after MONTHS of this pilot program being in effect, SOMEONE (HINT, HINT BOSSES) would have addressed this already with a simple fax to the Districts.
THEN maybe the W/C's could let their officers know to avoid the daily sparring on CW-2.
I agree, the best by far was Stan the Man on Zone 10. He and Nick and Lupe were the best you could ask for. Each were the working police, knew both 011 and 010 like the back of their hands, and took care of the people on the streets. Remember how Stan used to sit at his console with the safafi hat on, with the words, "World's largest open air pharmacy" written on the map of Zone 10. A true classic!
To 08:48:14
Sorry Ellen, you are still the best FTO Lt ever and i'm sure he will mention that in his discrimination/hostile workplace lawsuit. He is an asshole and so are you. Stay on days please...we don't miss you
Remember when Nick on Zone 10 would give out a domestic job and somehow relate it to his ex wife and what a pain in the ass she was? Classic!
Copper named Pete who was 1st watch on Z12 early 90's. One of the best I've heard. He knew both 015/025 like his own yard, which helped immensely in foot chases!!!
Also knew who the dogs were and didn't give a shit if he called them out!
Disabled P.O. who used to (may still) work 1st watch on Z4...I'd like to smack her out of her wheel chair! I know that sounds harsh, but any dispatcher who tells off the Watch Commander over the air ( when she is dead wrong ) deserves to be launched. But as far as I know, she's still there, bitchy as ever, never getting called on the carpet for her smart ass remarks! She used to clear coppers after what SHE felt was the appropriate amount of time on a job, without even asking what was going on!
Sharon...well, she likes sharin'.
"The regular girls on zone 13 on 2 -10 are great. They throw it back at the cars when they try to get wise. Besides it's a real tough job when most of the officers out there are dogging it 80 to 90 percent of the time."....Who elected that herd of COWS to a supervisory position?
Another Sgt's class of at least 75 off the current list. Merit nominations will be out in the next few weeks.
Trivia for the older guys
"Cars in 11, cars on the citywide..." (whatever in progress)... "this is Zone 10 on the wild wild west side"
Who used to say that?
There was a dispatcher who was on zone 13 about 17 yrs ago & was the police by the name of "Rich". The best dispatcher I've ever worked for. Group 6 & Michelob!
BEST DISPACTHERS
Zone 4 [011 & 010] (circa 1966-70; now Zone 10):
Harry Hewitt & Tom St. John
CITY-WIDE II (Detective Division)
John "Dogs" Dunlap
what can be done to reduce the time between recieving a 911 call and dispatcing it to the police ?
Anyone remember a couple of oldtimers:
Rich WHELTON
John FISHER (FISCHER?)
These guys were friends of mine. Both longtime dispatchers before the room got ratted out to the civilians and CETA workers. Both dead now, Rich for 17 years, John for 4-5 years.
John was sorta famous; In the movie "Code of Silence".... When they did a pan shot moving right to left in the old 911 center, John was sitting at the supervisor's desk talking on the bell. Also in 1978 when the plane crashed in Elk Grove Township (between the trailer park and ORD)..... John was the defacto "Incident Command" on the radio. Did a fine job regardless of the outcome of the crash.
Rich and John were the PO-Lice, and never drank Kool-Aid, just the golden nectar of the krausening gods!
RIP old friends.
I don't recognize John Fisher's name, but the tape of that was one of the training tapes used to explain the concept of "oh shit, its ALL yours" type incidents to new dispatchers.
Dispatching an "oh shit" incident for the first time is one of those things where you don't really know how you'll do until it actually happens. I've heard even the best stutter when second or even third relatively routine "oh-shit" incidents break out on top of each other.
And I'm not looking for anyone to badmouth her, but the main hands-on trainer for a lot of the civilians mentioned above was PO Colleen A. (no need to mention last names). She was later promoted to sergeant circa 1997 or so. Hard to explain her, but I hope she made a good sergeant.
10:55 PM
RE: Crash of American Airlines Flight 191 on May 25, 1979. Loss: 211 souls.
I still have a cassette copy of the CPD transmissions from the crash. If interested, contact me at:
cpdfop7@yahoo.com
Oh, and I should add. Boatloads of the old timers are dead now. Never seen people drop dead young the way dispatchers do.
I hope your old friends are resting in peace.
Me too friend.....
A lot of OT'ers made fine contributions to the pension plan, and never fully benefited from this.
I always tell guys on the way out the door: "Make sure you are a burden to the pension plan for many years to come"
I suspect tobacco and brown colored liquor had a lot to do with early demises.
CUL.
Not all civilian dispatchers suck. There are several civilians that respect and understand how hard the officers work. Officer safety comes before anything else. Granted there are a few that dont care but you can thank crappy management and training. There is plenty of times fellow officers dont bother to back up other officers or even bother to come clear from the bs jobs after long hours that make other officers work harder then needed.
Not all civilian dispatchers suck. There are several civilians that respect and understand how hard the officers work. Officer safety comes before anything else. Granted there are a few that dont care but you can thank crappy management and training. There is plenty of times fellow officers dont bother to back up other officers or even bother to come clear from the bs jobs after long hours that make other officers work harder then needed.
zone 6 ""CIVILIAN"" DISPATCHER "JAMIE" is the worst I ever heard, she is on a EGO trip and thinks she is your "BOSS" yes "YOU" SWORN OFFICER, keep inviting her to your parties like SHEEP, SHE HATES "POLICE" you can hear it in her voice when she uses her "I'M SUPERIOR To you voice" "WAKE UP" SHE IS THE ENEMY
Northside
All 271 people aboard AA Flt. 191 were killed in that crash plus 2 on the ground. TOTAL: 273.
That was the worst airliner crash is U.S. history in terms of fatalities, certainly if you exclude the events of 9/11.
Check your eMail.
Can't remember, was it Stan or Lupe on Zone 10 who used to also say "Okay boys and girls let me get my seat belt on and here we GO! Units in 011 and on city wide.....!! Not to forgot Dawn or Gina either. All of you made zone 10 a GREAT Zone to be on when the SHIT HIT THE FAN! Miss you guys!
I could always tell who the retired cpd dispatchers were because they would get halfway through reading out a job and then say something like "oh this job is nonsense, were not going to this." and then they would put a code on it themselves.
Quit! no one is making you be The Police! you bitch about the dispatchers, bitch about the Sgt.s, Lt's. Cpt and all of the brass, you bitch about the media, you bitch about females on the job,minorities on the job, you bitch about your checks, you bitch about the ASA, the Judges, living in the city, people who work inside, people in special units, the politicians, the mayor, the aldermens............bunch of bitches! quit! leave! go somewhere else
Sounds like you're a big part of the PROBLEM with this dysfunctional police department.
You leave!
Long Time ago I was a dispatcher....
Spent my time in 15 before going there....
After about three months, I said send me back to the West side....
Was sitting on the zone that covers 11....
Civilian Aide, now a dispatcher, tried telling me that the el station on Lake at Cicero was in 15....
I said, no its in 11....
She said, I've worked this zone for 8 years its in 15....
I said, its in 11 give me the job so I could dispatch it....
She tried getting a cr on me for rudeness....
El station is in 11....
Bout two weeks later, she complains that the state police will not answer the phone....
I ask what kind of job is it?
She says a "Guy called in to say a copper was getting beat up"
But it was "BULLSHIT"
I made her give me the ticket....
Guys went and checked....
No problem....
No Coppers Bitched....
She complained about me again....
I went back to the Westside....
Never looked back....
There might be some good ones....
But I have not seen many....
Bring back the coppers....
You people seriously need to get over yourselves. The only dispatcher you like are the one's that kiss your asses.
Best real Dispatcher, ever:
Frank Zbonczak on Zone 6. Was on the zone when I came on the job in 1973 and retired in about 1981, if I remember right. How many old-timers remember Frankie?
Some of the worst dispatchers in the place are the last few coppers who still work up there. I've heard one in particular say things with such attitude it's like she hates the police. She'll send a car from one end of the district to another and laugh like crazy. She has no respect. I've heard far more respect, knowledge and common sense from some of the civilians. And by the way, people, seriously it's not that hard to become a cop anymore in this city and real POLICE GROUPIES do just that.
"...Stan the Man from Zone 10...what a great guy. Anyone remember "Good evening ladies and gents, this is KBA 200 Chicago Police Department, Point-to-Point, Zone 10 in the Wild Kingdom!" You always knew that Stan had your back no matter what. He ran that zone like no other. Always a little humor in everything.."Ok, 10xx, that plate comes back to a '91 Fix-Or-Repair-Daily with two slammers"...
I miss you, Stan. They don't make 'em like you anymore.... "
Stan had a sign over his console that read "STAN'S WILD KINGDOM." He also had a bunch of stuffed jungle animals all around that big wooden sign. Hanging from each side of his console were the hanging-monkeys from the old "Barrel Of Monkeys" game. Stan wore cowboy boots with his uniform, too. No boss ever said a thing about any of it because Stanley Nowinski was simply the best and they all respected him. There will never be another dispatcher like Stan... never. He was the real deal, a true legend.
On the other side of the coin, that little Kelli McGrath has got to be the bitchiest little c#nt to ever work a zone. That bitch can NEVER be wrong! Don't they have a psych test for dispatchers?
Steve Gonzalez and Christine Weiss were a great pair of dispatchers. We used to love having them on Z-12 before they went to the city wides.
Sherida is brutal.
Learn to pronounce the following words: Daughter, buick, arguing.
The words "is" and "be" have separate and distinct meanings, and are not interchangable.
I KNOW I'M GONNA GET SMACKED
BUT I GOTTA SAY MJ ON ZONE 1
IS MY GAL SHE SAVED MY ASS ON A SHOOTING AND I WASN'T EVEN WORKING 016/017 AT THE TIME, SO THIS IS FOR YOU MJ
YOUR THE BEST
JOE
Zone 10 in the early 90's "listen up boys and girls" nicky " "yes 1421 you're on the wild kingdom" stan (or dirty clyde) and lupe was the "anchor". had a blast working 1st watch o-ber dare. Stan ,Nicky and Lupe were the best because they knew exactly where you played, knew you by voice and actually cared about the us rather then clearing a fucking computer screen. Thanks Matty, for fucking everything up. Be safe.
this new female filling in on zone 10 3rd watch is absolutely useless. police calling for help, starts giving out jobs. police stopping possible offenders in hot jobs, starts giving out jobs and forgets where you are. police run plates over the air on hot jobs, doesn't ever read them out but throws them on the box (isn't there a reason i ran it over the air?)
why don't they start the new dispatchers on pee-wee zones, like zone 1 or zone 2?
Karen/ Paula/ Laura - zone 11 mids, about 5 years ago. they were awesome.
From personal experience this new batch of dispatchers, (majority of them landed on the 3rd watch),is pretty nightmarish. The Corp Cadre was canned last Christmas so there is no "old school" or "police" training left at all. If you think
you have a hard time dealing with attitude coming over the air, just imagine sitting next to one of them for 8 hrs. Cocky-bullheaded-knowitalls. There is a generous handful of us that are quite perplexed about what they are really telling them in training and are genuinely concerned about your welfare.
Remember it's your fearless leader that is pushing for these unattainable stats of dispatch times, but he's not whispering to the Mayor that we need thousands of more officers to work the city streets.
You have to watch out for each other out there, some of you have the luxury of working in districts that routinely back each other up. Not all the districts have that type of camaradarie. I have heard the term used " life line" nonsense. You and only you can be each others life line! Civilian or police sitting in a dark office, can't really physically help you when the shit hits the fan.
We are all human, we have good days and bad. If I sparred with you on a bad hair day, well shit happens, but I still want to know you made it home to your family on your own two legs.
Still think you guys and gals are the best and thank you for all you do. Peace, Squad
I heard this once, " the offending veee-hicle is a Cadillac BROUGE-HAM!"
Swear to God! there is a car called ... The Murckury Mawquez!!
lol I almost fell out! lol
Camden has a "F" up job....he's on call 24/7.........covering up Monique Bonds "BS" and micro managing of the News Affair Unit.
The way coppers been shooting people lately and so often THE GUY might need a couple of cold ones
I still will take a drunk Camden, over a sober Monique, anyday!
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zone 6 ""CIVILIAN"" DISPATCHER "JAMIE" is the worst I ever heard, she is on a EGO trip and thinks she is your "BOSS" yes "YOU" SWORN OFFICER, keep inviting her to your parties like SHEEP, SHE HATES "POLICE" you can hear it in her voice when she uses her "I'M SUPERIOR To you voice" "WAKE UP" SHE IS THE ENEMY
5/16/2006 11:59:00 PM
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Without a doubt this above re-post is DEAD ON.
My experience with Jaimie: with no PDT in our pool car, we ran names on the air when we made stops. Jaimie would always come back with 'name check clear'. One particular stop off 59th St had us stopping three SDs, which all came bask ,'clear no warrants/no recort of DL' per Jaimie.
Two days later, the three SDs were on the bench and we recognized them from the stop we made two days earlier. One had a PC Investigative Alert for Murder out of A/5. A/5 then put him in the box and he went for 5 total murders (all gang related shootings from around the city, he was dropping LKs like candy). It didn't make sense, since the Alert was a couple of months old. WTF? We had just ran him two days prior and he came back clear. We challenged her on it at a watch party shortly there after and asked what the deal was--her response?
"Do you expect me to run every name you give me?"
No bullshit.
Five fucking murders. Do you believe that? And she was both proud and defiant about it. Not one to drop a dime on other department members, we let it go.
I caution you all on zone 6 to pay attention to the 'clear, no wants or record on file' responses from her. It could, quite literally, get you fucking killed.
I still regret not dropping a CR #on her. After talking to a few others in the district, we founbd out that this wasn't too uncommon for her: she often refused to simplyrun names and plates for those that she didn't like. Shame on her and whoever was sitting in the chair next to that 'woman'.
The sad thing about it, however, was that she replaced an OUTSTANDING dispatcher (now supervisor) Becky. The zone on 3rd watch went from the best to the worst.
CC, Zone 11 3rd watch. Never forgets she works for you, runs things like an air traffic controller at the Aurora traffic center, easy voice on the ears. Only one better was Karen G on the zone about 5 years ago who is now a supervisor.
5/17/2006 12:57:43 AM
No offense, but in 73 I wasn't even a glimmer in my ma's or pa's eye, and in 81 all I cared about was Sesame Street, Mr Rogers, and Spanky and the gang. Not to make you feel old or anything.
And your point is...
1257
Who the F%*k are you anyway? If you don't like what's being said on this blog find another one, troll.
I know one for the list, AMY on Zone 2 (she was booted off the zone for a while). She treats coppers like shit on the air, real attitude. Our WC called OEMC and beefed about her demeanor whihc got her launched off Zone 2, but she be back 4 a while now. Real attitude and LOVES to REDLINE coppers. She copuldn't get hired cause she would account for a 10-4 unit. (MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
MARYLOU and LICA and Zone 3 midnights, the BEST ever!!!!!!!!!!!
I was wondering about that girl on cw2, what a piece of shit she is! The attitude is unreal. We get enough of that from jerkoffs on the street, don't need to hear it from her. that post about holding the key down longer is right on though. I just realized that was a problem. No excuse though
I thought Jamie Zone6 3rd watch left a few months ago. Is there another Jamie?
There are a bunch of brand new dispatchers, straight out of training , on each watch. Seems like either they weren't trained enough or they just have no business doing that job. Of course the management at OEC won't do a thing about either taking them off the air and giving them more training or giving those who shouldn't be doing that job the boot.
Jamie (Zone 6 - 3rd watch) is now in training. She (along with Pat J. (mids Zone 6) are the ones responsible for these new dispatchers.
I have worked on several different zones and Carlos on Zone 6 is the best I've come across. Always knows what is going on, knows how to give out jobs, is patient with salty jag off coppers and has a sense of humor. Thanks Los.
Anyone remember Wally Wronski from zone 013 in the 90's, he was excellent knew how to dispatch,kn ew the guys in both districts(009/012)was very entertaining.
He is definetely missed...
I think Lupe on zone 10 1rst watch is about the best there is right now......
Nobody right out of training knows what they are doing up there. I know every one of the people y'all are talking about, good and bad, and to the last one they all started off in a hole.
Let me know if they deny it, but a universal truth of that job is that nobody knows what they are doing when they start. How in the hell do you really teach someone to manage zones 6 or 10 on third watch in a classroom?
I'm glad to hear that y'all like some of em. But ask anyone who ever worked up there or at 1121. Ain't no way to prepare somebody for the more difficult parts of that job 'cept by exposing em to it for awhile. Nobody starts off running. Though its not to say that the ones who sound new will ever get better either.
zone 9 third watch are good..tremayne and lisa (when she is on the zone) are solid. They have it together!
Tremayne on Zone 9 3rd watch, SUXXX.
Hes the biggest racist out there!!
You can never hear him, Tremayne. He is a nitwit and arrogant
Back during the 80's early 90's..zone 12, 3rd watch. can't think of his name we were in gangs north and alway would work in 25/15 and he would say "25XX get ready we have a jump ball, and units on city wide we have a man with a gun" he knew we would try to beat them to the call, he was the best of the best..during a foot chase he would say "ok guys relax take a breath, tell me were you are and i will send eveyone to you"..he cared about his watch.
I am a former dispatcher. Took both tests and the dispatcher job came up first. I trained at 11th and State with Wally on Zone 12 on days, went to afternoons, and worked zone6,7,8 (8 was too big with too many dogs on it then) 9, 10 (Stan the man was still there), and 11. I think Annie, Karen, Isabel and Carlos are SUPER!! Also Razzo on Zone 4 is greet too. They are calm in emergencies and know that their priority is to know where WE are. If they are reading this, we appreciate you.
Please don't let J [relief dispatcher, not Jaime](Annie and Isabel know who I mean) dispatch on Zone 6, cuz even though she is a nice lady, she repeats everything toooo much and likes to hear her own voice. She made us nuts on Zone 4 one day and even the supervisors were going crazy, I think one of them even called down there and had her removed.
Also to any who refuse to run names or plates, shame on you. That is a part of your job. Not every car has a PDT and sometimes you are out of your car so you can't do it yourself. We don't run names just to mess with you.
And to those of you who care about us, thanks.
Yes.Wally was the man on zone 12..he was great and did care about us...thanks I/F forever
Y'all might not view things the same way people down there do, but my pretty-well-informed understanding from a few years ago would be that Becky on zone 6, third watch, was the most respected dispatcher in the room.
Nobody had heart like she did. Most people, civilian, PO or retired, you'd put on zone 6 for a tour on third watch, and they'd take the rest of the week on the medical. It was brutal to work, especially back in the early days in '95/'96 when the computers were running slow or abruptly shutting down.
I know a few people who didn't particularly like her personally, but most everyone down there from those days with any sense respected her. 75% of the bosses, the retirees, the POs and the other civilians would tell you that she was as good as it got.
The retirees were mostly the ones who encouraged the training supervisors (retired CPD bosses) to get her off the zone and bring her into training. Most figured she'd be lucky to make 40 if she stayed on the zone.
Worked em all on all watches, and I'm not sure there is any way to convey what a grinder that zone was on afternoons. You'd have a headache after two hours on a good day. On most any day, if they put a knucklehead there, they'd have cars screaming at em in ten minutes.
Interesting experience for a year or two, but that job will kill ya.
to 6:00 You are right Becky was a great one too. Her dad was the police.So was Gina, anybody know where she is now? I worked with almost all of them and some were outstanding.
For the anonymous person blaming myself and Jamie for the new dispatchers, please remember that the newbies were also trained by some of you out on the Ops Floor... 4 weeks of OJT... I do my best at all that I do... I thought I did pretty good on the floor working with Karen on 1st watch... the important thing for me was that everyone on the street went home to their family at the end of the tour... if there are cops out there who feel I didn't do my job well, then I apologize... seeing the posts here, I wonder if it is worth going back to the floor... when I do, I will do what i did before coming to training... I never ignore a call for assistance from the field... the jobs can wait until the chaos of a cop calling for help has settled down... as for what we teach the newbies in the class room, we teach them what is written in the SOP's
Shame on you!!! If you can call someone out by name and hide behind anonymous, shame on you again, Get down like you live, If you can call someone by name, then be a man or woman and sign your name.....A DISPATCHER 4EVER!!!
I would rather have a biased regular dispatcher who favors certain coppers and goes to parties but can handle the zone on a 10-1 with ease and knows where all the cars are over some incompetent, illiterate, incoherent substitute any day. Although there is a large number of dispatchers whose personalities and voices irratate you as soon as they plug in, by percentage there is a greater number of coppers out there who are equally incompetent and incoherent.
Kid you did fine, and by all accounts you still are. Can you imagine if the other back office positions for emergency employees in the city shared similar characteristics?
At the OEMC, half or more of the civilians moved to training or similar positions got their asses kicked on the busiest radios at the busiest times for more than a year. There were certainly a few exeptions based on phone calls to the old CPD commanders (Hi Jerry!) in the building, but most of the people, including you, given these positions were given the positions because of their experience and work ethic.
Imagine if even half of the CPD officers not pushing beat cars were moved off of em based on the same criteria. Imagine if "merit" actually meant "merit".
Most anyone reading this blog could not even begin to comprehend that things were done this way up there over the last few years. My God, rewarding the workers and trusting the best and most experienced to train the new ones? That would actually make sense, and the CPD would have none of it. Please don't tell the CPD brass or they'll surely make a few phone calls and put a stop to it.
I'm sure Ron Huberman would be happy to make a few phone calls and return things to the way they were.
Pat we miss you on the zone, granted Karen, mike, and Angela do a hell of a job, "The Swamp" just isn't the same without the Ogre.
We had an experienced "old timer" on city wide 5 for the immigrant march on 1 may.
Some P.O's called for help and one of our Uncle Ben or Fat Phil "cream of the crop house mouse bosses" began interfering with the transmissions.
The old-time zone operator
dressed down the "cream of the crop house boss" and told him that he(zone operator) was in charge and that he would ensure those units received help.
Maybe if everyone worked together instead of against eachother, the job would be a little easier.
TROTTER FILLED OEMC WITH PEOPLE FROM HIS "CHURCH" JUST BEFORE HE LEFT FOR THE FIRE DEPT. PEOPLE WHO WERE ON WELFARE A SHORT TIME AGO ARE NOW TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO....NICE
p.s. the f.bi. was looking into this then it just went away hummmmmmmmm
Let me make something clear. We do NOT "WORK" for you. We are there to assist the citizens of chicago and you in doing your job. You criticize the dispatcher for alerting their "friends" to crappy jobs so they can go down on something but you don't say a word about the cop. You have the luxury of having sgts and supervisors who will back you up in a beef. We, however, do not. And I sure has hell don't see any of you having a benefit for one of us when we get suspended for 10 days. If you have a comment or complaint about how someone is doing their job, that's fine. There are avenues you can take to file such a complaint but resorting to childish and disgusting name calling and comments only shows how juvenile and intellectually inept you are. GROW THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You police officers seriously believe that people are rewarded for being a good dispatcher by getting detailed to the training section or another position? Get real. The OEMC is just like the police department that way. It's all about who you know or who likes you.
Heard the same thing about Trotter, but don't think for a second that it started with him. There were STRONG rumors that one person who could not be put anywhere except zone 2 was a relative of Whigham. You had Townsend's son in law in one of the first classes. One of the fastest promotions to sergeant ever once he went on your job.
And the CPD retirees they brought in, while not all necessarily "connected" in the formal sense of the word, were definitely people who knew where the bodies were buried. Don't get me wrong, I thought about half or so of the bosses up there were good or great, though they didn't necessarily know a whole lot about radio procedures. Most of them did their best and tried to keep people out of trouble (part of my definition of a good boss).
But definitely heard the same thing about Trotter, and my understanding is that it was brought to the attention of more than just the FBI. Amazing that he was "promoted" twice out of that position.
Relax kids our dispatchers take all of your shit and now you bitch about 1 or 2 bad ones. Dispatchers are being forced to work overtime asked to give money for someone who fucked up and is being given a few days susp (PO stupid) And this is our best way you repay them? Most or almost all of our dispatchers are good and for someone with less then 5yrs calls one of them the C word. Grow up boys they put up with alot more of our shit then you know!
aaaaaaaaaaaaa can I beees a spatcher I knowz trotter do we getz free lunchs here like in school--------------huh
To Pat,
Why would you attack your co workers to kiss the asses of these punk ass police officers?? You officers are nothing more than a beat number. This is not personal. I'm PAID a hefty amount of money to make sure you respond to the requests of the citizens of chicago. So instead of thinking your are God, take the barking dog complaints, clear when you're done, and take another job. Especially the dog units on zone 6 , 3rd watch!!
For the ignorant remark reference Trotter, GET OVER IT!! Do I detect a sign of jealousy?? Trotter has earned his slot and is well deserving of any and all accolades. You should know this being from the Good ol' boy network. You should take a page from Master Trotter's book!
This is to all the whiny Chicago Police Officers:
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER!!!!!!!!!
Hey can any officer answer this question?
Whats with the attitude straight out of roll call? Its not like I'm asking you to clean my gutters, just paging you to take a job from your tax paying citizens?
Recap:
Great Dispatchers? Becky,Gina, Ron, Lupe, Karen, all by name--for that matter the rest not named are great as well, seeing as how they get the job done and try their best to keep us safe.
Crap ones? Jaimie, and Zone 2.
Odd, we seem to have the same names comming up over and over...
Its important to keep in mind that nearly ALL the dispatchers are fantastic. They talk for 8 hours, ride the wave of emotion of each an every job on the zone for two bordering districts, and get little or no respect. Just like police, firement or hell, any profession, it just takes a few assholes to leave a bad taste in the mouth of anyone that comes into contact with them as a whole.
I really do hope that by and large the dispatchers reading this don't take it as nameless members bashing the whole OEMC, but please pay attention to fact that the same names keep comming up over and over. I'm sure on your side of the radio, the same names or Bt numbers are repeated as well.
We appreciate you guys and gals, we really do. Every time I run into one of you at a bar/watch party, I make it a point to stop and tell you (often in a rediculous stupor!) how important you are and how under appreciated you are as well.
Thanks.
THIS JUST CAME OVER THE FAX:
STARTING FRIDAY ALL P.O.'S WILL BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND IN SERVICE
TRAINING FOR EBONICS 101.
DUE TO THE EBONICALLY CHALLENGED
OFFICERS IN THE DISTRICTS THIS TRAINING IS REQUIRED.
FOR EXAMPLE:
ENGLISH "ASK"
EBONICS "AX"
ENGLISH "WHAT DID YOU SAY"
EBONICS "HUUUUUHHHHH"
ENGLISH "I WOULD LIKE MY DOOR KEY BACK"
EBONICS "WHER MY DOKEY"
ENGLISH "POTOMAC AVE"
EBONICS "POWTOWAMAC STREETH"
ENGLISH "WABANSIA STREET"
EBONICS "WABA...UHHH...WABA.... UHH...WABANISEIA OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW"
ENGLISH "MY WIFE"
EBONICS "HUH..MY BEOTCH"
ENGLISH "CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?"
EBONICS "I GOTS TO AX YOU SOMETHIN"
THIS TRAING IS DUE TO A RECENT INCREASE OF INTELLECTUALLY INEPT OEMC OPERATORS WHO ARE LINGUISTICALLY CHALLENGED
THE EBONICS VERSION OF THE ABOVE STATEMENT:.."WE GOTS TO DO DIS CAUSE ALL YOU DUMB ASS MUTHA FUCKERS WHO TALKS LIKE SHIT"
ebonics made an oemc operator over $160,000 last year. What did you make? Standing in the rain, snow, getting spit on, cursed out, riding around in pissy squad cars? Huh? Loser!
As an old dispatcher my 2 favorite lines were: Good evening ladies and gents and welcome to Z-10 radio, and It been my pleasure and goodnight. Everyone went home in once piece and it saved me alot of nightmares... Glad to see there is a forum on this..
Really $160,000.00 wow!!!!!
You must of sold a lot of rock on your off time, SAVAGE.
After reading the comments ref a former dispatcher that redline units in 009, did the dispatcher redline a unit even after he answered his page? Because as I see it, you only get redlined if you don't answer your radio, both a CYA for the dispatcher and officer safety measure for the officer. Why would anyone with common sense get mad at a dispatcher for a redline? Thats ignorant. But not as ignorant as a fellow officer slashing a co workers tires! Thats even more ignorant. Grown ass men slashed a co-workers tires? That is a bitch move if I ever heard one. I guess if a police officer could slash a fellow police officers tires, then planting a gun on an innocent person is really out of the ordinary! I bet the loser who actually typed those comments wasn't even the officer that was redlined!
savage said..
No I didn't sell alot of rock, I just put your mammy on the right corners!!! Your mother provides the right amount of skank! Loser!
YOU COULD GIVE ME A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE YOU AND I STILL WOULDN'T DO IT "CUZ YOU BEES A SAVAGE FO LIFE...YOU GETS IT? HUHHH DOG?"
I HAVE A FRONT ROW SEAT TO "SAVAGE
v. SAVAGE" AND WHEN ONE OF YOU GETS KILT, I AM THE WINNER.
JUST LIKE LAST NIGHT, ANOTHER FINE EXAMPLE OF URBAN RENEWAL AT IT'S FINEST. BY THE WAY, WHAT'S YOUR IR# MULE?
You're still mad over the O.J. verdict aren't you? Ha ha ha
To the Officer who posted the brilliant idea for Ebonics 101. I counted at least 3 typos in your post so perhaps you should start with English 101. Maybe a 60 college credit hour requirement to become a P.O isn't enough? You think?
The day anyone at the OEMC is jealous of Trotter is a cold day in hell. If you are defending him, you must be one of his "friends" he got hired. He did nothing good at the OEMC.
Probably not much of a dispatcher
Someone in a post asked why the call's don't get given to the police officers faster once they come in...lets see..let us count the ways..
1. 2 cars go on station assignments right out of roll call because the desk is too lazy to bring lunch or get their own food (anyone heard of delivery?)
2, 3, 4, and 5. Missions
DOC missions, sop missions, gang missions and my new favorite "person of interest" missions
6. Seat Belt Missions
To Anonymous...
I am not attacking my co-workers, nor am I kissing anyones ass... I just don't like being blamed for what someone feels was poor training when I was not the only one responsible for said training... I respect the great majority of those I work with on both sides of the radio... I would love to see us all get along... my thanks to those who tell me I did a good job on the zone... to those of you out on the Ops floor, keep doing what you do... to those of you on the street, keep doing what you do and stay safe... we all just need to find a good way to let go of the stress these jobs dump on us... me, I think I will go fly a kite with my 4 year old... hope you all find a way to clear this shit from your minds.
Trotter has earned his slot and is well deserving of any and all accolades. HOW? What did he do or where did he go t school to learn and earn anything?
Trotter suck hole
The best blowjob I ever had was from a dispatcher late night at Dugans, thanks!
Oh really on that blow job? What was his name?
To the post about cars going out of roll call for a station Assignment for the Desk...YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? BRING YOUR OWN FOOD?
GO DOWN TO OEMC AND ITS LIKE HAROLDS CHICKEN SHACK ON A 2 FOR DAY.....RIBS AND CHICKEN EVERYWHERE, SHIT EVERYWHERE AND THE COMBINED SMELL OF BBQ AND FUNK, PETOULIE OIL AND BEES WAX.
AND THE CUMMULATIVE IQ OF ABOUT 26...
I bet the most chesty police officers with the biggest egos assuming the position of God, is the same police officer that screams like a bitch over the air when they get into a bs foot chase, not to mention the fact that they are about 5 ft in height! You see, you idiot officers ragging on the dispatcher is at a deficit. You started as a punk in high school getting your asses kicked from the school bully, then you never were able to get a woman except to have to pay for it, then you came up with the brilliant idea to become a police to EARN respect and now you're still looked at by your peers as a wuss! So now, you divide yourself as I'M A COP vs YOU'RE A DISPATCHER as if your superior. The sad part is that every night when you look in the mirror you still see that loser kid looking back at you. Instead of spending time on a blog, invest your measly salary in a good psychiatrist to silence your lambs!!!!!!!
You know I wasn't going to waste my time responding to some of the ridiculous shit on this blog about the dispatchers and the management at the OEC, but reading your comments I just can't help myself. After a long career, (I was trained at 1121 and Wally Wronski was one on my mentors), I can't believe how low this relationship between both sides of the radio has become.
We both have a job to do - dispatchers have to get out the jobs within the time restrictions given to us by the 4th floor and many times with our director breathing down our necks. We have to make sure that all the officers on our watch have to get home to their loved ones safe and sound each and every day. You people have to respond to the jobs, handle the jobs and clear from the jobs you are assigned. You are responsible to the radio and by the way - traffic stops do not take precidence over pending assignments from the public. And another thing - it's been 11 years - so learn to use the pdt for god sakes.
The pimpy whining on this blog is sickening. Seems to me that the only thing most, (not all, but most) coppers are worried about is how to get out of doing as much work as possible in an 8 hour shift. I becomes a game - - we push the jobs at you and you
try your best to get out of handling them.
For those of you who think Stan was the dispatcher GOD of all time - Please realize that he was drunk most of the time he was on the air. Nice character and we all like Stan, but did you really want your life in the hands of a
drunk dispatcher?? So enough about Stan.
Another thing - some of the very worst dispatchers I have seen were PO's. Give it a rest - the PO's who came down to the "CC" room were cowards. Men and women afraid of the street. Many of them still talk about "when I was on the street" and I am often amazed at the power that 10 minutes had on them. I probably have more time on the street than they ever did. Also - remember, you are not the only one out there - listen to your radio once in a while.
So - shut up, quit using names of dispachers on this site and keep your opinions to yourself and DO YOUR JOB!! We will do ours and maybe, just maybe - we can all get along.
By the way - Ron Huberman is still running the show at Madison street from his lofty perch at City hall - He wants to run the place at half staff - keep a heavy foot on the necks of all the 911 staff and holds us to ridiculous standards of efficiency that could never be met even if the place was fully staffed.
How does a dispatcher located at 1411 w Madison get an officer killed working in Englewood? Just wondering?
Why would you attack your co workers to kiss the asses of these punk ass police officers?? You officers are nothing more than a beat number. This is not personal. I'm PAID a hefty amount of money to make sure you respond to the requests of the citizens of chicago. So instead of thinking your are God, take the barking dog complaints, clear when you're done, and take another job. Especially the dog units on zone 6 , 3rd watch!!
Your comment that officers are nothing more than a beat number speaks volumes about the problem at large, for the record, dispatch IS there to support the oficers in the field, plain and simple, that is something that has been lost since we switched over from officers on the zone from the old COS at 11th & State to OEMC and civilians; to the civilians that do a great job everynight on the zones, you have our respect and thanks, and for the most part, you know who you are: zone 10, 13, 09, 06,Lupe, Marissa, Jen etc.
As far as all the missions, we didn't invent them and are REQUIRED to do them daily, thank the brass; to the coppers who talk about dispatcher attitudes etc, look in the mirror, there are alot of coppers who exibit piss poor attitudes from the get-go towards dispatch for no reason other than they are receiving a job or 2 or 3 a night on slow zones, I always laugh because guys on busy zones get hammered all night and fight for lunch and rarely beef, bottom line lets work together....
Difine "support" Dispatchers are required to forward citizens complaints to the police officer while maintaining officer safety. THATS ALL WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO. We don't need to know anything else about you other than your beat number. The only thing required of you is "10-4 Squad" That should be the only dialogue between these 2 entities.
does the amount of drug selling in the 011th district reflect the non policing of the units in 011??? Just wondering? And who is that asshole sgt on 1120's car? Zelitsky or something like that, he needs to get laid!!!!!!!!
MY FAVORITE.....
Were in a rap....Page of jobs pending
Squad....Hold me down on an ORC and then I need the same 6 cars for a SBE!!!!
Can someone explain this to us?
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
and blah blah blah blah blah
by the way blah blah blah
then he blah blah so there blah blah . You never blah blah blah. This one is blah blah blah,
Are we done blah blah blah? Beat a dead horse to blah blah death.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
and blah blah blah blah blah
by the way blah blah blah
then he blah blah so there blah blah . You never blah blah blah. This one is blah blah blah,
Are we done blah blah blah? Beat a dead horse to blah blah death.
pete the repeat said
DID YOU KNOW:
In the mid 90's there was an unsaid rule that NO current workers in OEC could or would be promoted to a supervisory position. Only retired PO's could be hired back as supervisors.
While some employees took numerous smoking breaks throughout the tour totalling several hours a day, the nonsmoking employees had to ask permission and have a relief in order to get 1 break.
CR #'s were abundant. Mostly for not giving out the jobs in the prescribed time. One dispatcher on Zone 8 would sit down to a RAP every night and get CR's for jobs that were made hours earlier when he wasn't even working! It was hilarious to watch him be served with a CR and he would give them back a PREPRINTED TO/FROM and just fill in the date.
If you dont believe it, Ask around.
True story, and please don't give my name if you know it.
I was once sitting reliefs on zone 8 and went on a smoke break before the person I was relieving came back from lunch (and before the person I was working with went to lunch).
Come back from my smoke and my partner (excellent female PO who worked zone 8, third watch for quite awhile at the OEMC) was handling a hellacious chase.
Complete CF. This thing went on for like 15 minutes across 3 different zones. At the hour, when the relieved person came back, I told my partner that I would take it and she should go to lunch. She did, reluctantly.
A month or two later I get a plaque and reward for my part. I swear, just like anything else down there, I thought they could just as easily have suspended me for the smoke break.
As for the promotions, you do realize that the firt promotion to supervisor WAS a civilian and not a retiree, right? I think 3 of the first 4 or 5 were civilians and not retirees. 2 of the ones I'm thinking of were pretty good calls, as each had worked busy zones for more than a year.
As for the CR numbers, I'll always regret not thanking Funk when he cleared the board on those. He wasn't the most personable person ever, but that was the right thing to do. And Robinson and the other PD bosses could not even begin to comprehend the injustice of those thousands of complaints in '95 and '96. Yeah, your freakin computer breaks and your radio dies, but its MY fault that the jobs aren't going out on time.
I wonder if anyone working on a radio in '95 managed to go through the year without getting served at some point or another. It was like a paper storm.
I had one sustained because I was on the sheets as being assigned to a zone, even though the tape had two completely different people dispatching.
If people only knew.
Scratch that, even if they knew, I don't think they would care.
This question is for only the Police Officers.
What is the measure of a GOOD dispatcher? What meets your requirements for a Good dispatcher?
MY FAVORITE.....
Were in a rap....Page of jobs pending
Squad....Hold me down on an ORC and then I need the same 6 cars for a SBE!!!!
Can someone explain this to us?
Here's the explanation, the brass wants it and wants to see ev.#'s nobody cares about the backlog in 011, all 80 dope jobs and domestics pending... nobody cares.
As far as the other post about the only interaction being ...10-4 squad, be careful what you wish for, the next time you send us supervisors messages beefing on cars and complaining you have nobody for jobs, i'm just gonna say 10-4 squad...
I also think i'll stop handling so many of those dope, disturbance jobs etc. and let them sit since were just a bt. number anyway....
Anonymous said...
does the amount of drug selling in the 011th district reflect the non policing of the units in 011??? Just wondering? And who is that asshole sgt on 1120's car? Zelitsky or something like that, he needs to get laid!!!!!!!!
5/18/2006 10:34:37 AM
011 is full of 2 year wonder beat cars that think 2 bags of dope is going to get them on the midnight tac team, actually that might just do it. Its not 1120 its 1130 A.K.A. Tricky and trust me many a man would love to skull fuck that scared rat bitch.
1. Get a lunch location from the lazy sgt's who enjoy saying that they were just sitting down to lunch when they are given an assignment.
2. Get a sgt's approval for all of the silly station assignments that the dogs go down on right out of roll call.
3. Ask the sgt via the pdt to do a status check if you know someone is really dogging it.
4. Make the lazy sgt's do there job!!!!!!!!!!
5. Tac teams hours are 1800-0230. Use them. They are usually just sitting in the station doing nothing.
sorry...their
Make the lazy sgt's generate reports concerning the the back logs and what they did to address the problems.
Same with gang teams. Hours are 1500-0130.
Correction. Gang team hours are 1700-0130.
Tips for dispatchers?
Here's the easiest that nobody ever does...
Raise a sergeant and "ask" them for permission to hold all priority 2 and 3 jobs for appropriate beat or tac/gang cars. The BEST sergeants will recognize this and 1.) give permission and 2.) do a quick check to see if anyone is hiding.
People hate bothering sergeants, but its within their discretion to order 2&3 jobs be held. Their permission covers EVERYBODY, and it shows leadership. The decision also prevents cars from running from one end of the district for low and medium priority nonsense.
Seriously, this is the quickest answer short of eliminating half of the calls accepted for dispatch.
Why do you guys get an attitude about being just a beat number? Thats what you are! No more, no less. You come to work to answer the citz complaints. Thats it! Nothing personal, just answer your beat when called, respond on the assignment, clear yourself and take the next job.By not doing these simple tasks it translates into you not doing your job! No one is asking you to paint their toenails or sweep out the basement, we just want you to do your job. YOU ARE A BEAT NUMBER! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS! SO BE A GOOD LITTLE BOY OR GIRL AND JUST ANSWER YOUR BEAT NUMBER AND SAY 10-4! GOT IT?
Personally I think the dispatchers at the OEMC are great. yes there are some lazy asses with very very bad attitudes that other dispatchers don't care to work with but for u coppers out there recognize we take a lot of shit off u lazy and for the most part racist m-f's as well as our fucked up mgmt at the OEMC. Why don't u ease up off the dispatchers and do ur fuckn jobs and stop cry'n like bitches now let me clean up something not all cops are lazy and racist but if I stepped on ur toes with that comment then move ur dam feet 3rd Watch
In the defense of the M/1 dispatcher turned cop he didn't request to be moved to another watch asshole,how soon did ur dum ass 4get u were a ppo once and there is a rotation of watches "remember" anyway that was a bitch as move to cut his tires, wait a minute, maybe it was a bitch who did it since the person couldn't confront him. And when I say bitch i mean male or female got it dum asses And personally the more I work with with CPD the more I believe the 60 hrs college credit requirement should be removed how hard is it to answer the radio, go down on traffic stops,take a personl or lunch when ur called for a job, but I'm gonna keep it real, There are some good officers with the department and are hard workers but there is a large percent of assholes who paint an ugly picture for the others i'm sure some of u officers can say the same about dispatchers
As a dispatcher at the OEMC, Ladies and gentlemen stop sleeping around with the officers and giving them blow jobs after parties and in the parking lot U are making it bad for the dispatchers and calltaker who do not care to partake in the festivities... I for one have dated an officer for a few years but I am one to have more than a dick suck & a fuck for a buck Respect urselves, I for 1 dont like being labled a radio-hoe , I'm a lady I have officers friends and the stories I have heard makes me ashame keep ur legs closed and ur lips tight aight
just a few lines ... zone 10: stan the man, gina, becky and dawn were absolutely the best bar none! kelli mcgrath needs to have her windpipe ripped out like her mother! zone 5 has the best dispatchers around - isabelle, kit, michelle and liz keep everyone on their toes! including the dogs - too numerous to mention. delores dismuked needs to be put in front of a bus on state/madison at high noon and wiped out. want lunch? when you get out of rollcall at 0820 - ask for lunch right away! she'll put you on "her list". if she likes you - you get to eat. besides, clearing her board is more important than anything. try handling an in-progress call with offender on scene, and she's stacking 3 paper jobs for you "when you are finished"! what a c*nt - needs to go back to the ghetto and finish her crack pipe. she's going to get somebody hurt! don't try to give a flash - the parking violator is past it's time! help us all!
To 5/18/2006 01:04:29 PM,
Fifteen years ago the 013th District had about twenty active dope spots, more or less, including the Henry Horner Homes. When I would detour a few blocks into 011th Dist. I saw dope spots at every intersection but rarely saw a squad car doing anything. I wondered were the 011th District officers were. Then I made dick and saw the entire 011th District. Every fucking corner is a dope spot, even the middle of the block is dope spot. Knowing this I do not percieve your remarks as a commentary about the work ethic of 011th District officers. They're the best, like the guys in 010. They're simply overwhelmed. Been that way since the fifties. You need more police. And a death penalty wouldn't hurt either!
publish a list of places to get blown by a dispatcher - love to go
Again......you officers are beat numbers!!!!! The dispatcher's job is to clear the board whether its a parking complaint or a person with a gun. So take the job and shut up!!
You know, as a dispatcher, i really wish whatever one of my co-workers it is that keeps referring to police officers as just a beat number would also specify they are NOT speaking for all of us. You are childishly generalizing just as bad as the officers putting down specific dispatchers are. I have family members who are the police and I take my job seriously. I want that officer to make it home at the end of his shift. I do not in any way appreciate the comments being made but quite frankly some of them are true, that is why the female dispatchers have the reputation that they do. Because there are certain females who feel the CPD is their personal dating pool.That being said, I am not siding with the police officers on this blog because I think the majority of them are being extremely childish and disgusting. Which is why I don't build my social life around watch parties and benefits. There can be that seperation however and professionalism on both sides while still caring that these officers make it home. Take the jobs, stop whining and realize that there's a person behind that radio who is most likely part of the group of good, decent dispatchers who are sickened by the reputation we have.
Dispatchers are not Police Wanna be's. Why would we want to deal with the skum of the city everyday,other than those lazy do nothing cry baby uneducated cops who ride around all day and do nothing, then bitch and complain we they cant take there lunch when they want to. DO SOME WORK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIVES. Why would I as a dispatcher want to be a cop? Why would I want to take the pay cut? Oh yea I know, so I could harass innocent people everyday for no reason.
As far as training goes at the OEMC, the problem is the majority of the training staff, have only been dispatchers themsleves for three years or less. How could you train someone when you barely know what you are doing. The training program is a joke, you sit in a class for 6 weeks and the training staff reads you SOP's, the you get a couple of weeks of OJT and youre suppose to know how to dispatch, I dont think so, What happened to the requirement for dispatchers to have had 18 months prior experience. Thats the problem with the new dispatchers, they dont have any prior experience, if these are the best of the 500 applicants that were interviewed, we all are in for a looooong summer.
Thanks to all the cops who left nasty comments here, you did something that the union never could, you united all the dispatchers and call takers. Cops be prepared to write alot of paper because the number of you redlined will increase 10 fold. Once again thanks for all you do
You don't have a bad reputation among anybody who atually knows what you do. Many of the dispatchers have friends and family on the job, and mine were uniformly horrified when they realized what the job actually entailed.
There are a few occasional oldtimers who hated that their old retirement spot was taken. Yet, they never noticed that, given the opportunity, most of the POs and retirees down there would not touch a busy zone with a ten foot stick if they had a choice.
Oh, and then there is that little problem about needing to be able to type, talk, think and chew gum at the same time which some of em had problems with. Oh yeah, and then there was that whole thing about not being able to bring a bucket of cards home anymore at the end of the tour if you didn't get a chance to send someone on em.
Yeah, bring back the police. Thats a great idea. Any volunteers? Of the 100 POs and 100 retirees that started, there weren't a whole bunch chomping at the bit to be a "real dispatcher" by sitting on 6 or 10 on third or first. God bless the ones who did, and especially the ones who did it well. But show me someone who wants to come in from the field and try themselves out on 6, 8, 10 or 12, and I'm sure the civilians would gladly give up the seat for an hour or two.
Don't get me wrong. I would get my ass kicked six ways to sunday if I had to strap on a gun and walk around in 007 or 011. I have nothing but respect for the troops doing what they signed up to do. But its two different jobs and two different required skill sets.
Stan ain't ever coming back, and he couldn't get out of 1411 fast enough when he was there. Most of the other great ones couldn't get out fast enough either.
You want em or other POs back? Ask em how much THEY want to go back to 1411. Its either that or nothing, cuz last I checked, the toxic waste dump at 1121 ain't there no more.
Anyway, enough of all the bashing! If the stories SCC heard are true, than somebody needs to call up the watch managers at the OEMC and initiate a complaint. You'd be doing everyone a favor, including the OEMC, if the alternative is letting a moron ignore POs calling for help.
Hey 5/18/2006 03:02:18 PM.
Last I checked...nobody was holding a gun to anyone's head, or keeping any dispatchers chained to any basement radiators. If you choose not to have any of that type of fun....Then don't!
As far as your co-workers...Why not mind your own business. If two consenting adults wanna beat each other with whips in front of the entire City Of Chicago, what fecking difference does it make to you!?!??!
Sling the jobs and mind your damned business!
Spoken by someone who i'm sure has their own set of knee pads.
Stan has always been, and will always be THE original OEMC legend! Whoever you are making the comment about Zone 3 (13/14), you have no idea what you are talking about!
Everyone on that zone is great! Especially my Rosie! 2nd & 3rd Watch on zone 3 rules!
The CW2 gal really does need to go! Who does she think she is with her attitude? If she is following this thread....why don't you come on the blog to identify yourself and answer to everyone?
About the "prior experience" requirement....everyone wants experienced dispatchers in every department. The situation becomes a catch 22....where do you suppose police dispatchers start if they can't get on to get experience in the first place?
All of which exemplifies why there'll always be the "Us vs. Them" mentality.
From BOTH sides.
Too many dispatchers think that all there is to being the police is taking jobs from the dispatcher...
And too many PO's think that all there is to dispatching is being a flunky for the police.
dispatchers are there to serve the police!
Anonymous said...
dispatchers are there to serve the police!
5/19/2006 02:15:35 AM
Okay. But there's a distinct difference between "serving" in that sense and being a "flunky."
The Deptartment's farce of a motto is "We Serve And Protect," but it doesn't mean police are supposed to be flunkies for the public.
all of you shut the fuck up already and do your jobs. BITCHES
Cops that bitch and complain? I never thought I'd see it.
Fact of the matter is that Cops have a very vague idea of what a Dispatcher has to do on a daily basis. Cops will never understand multi-tasking and that just because you can't see or hear the work doesn't mean it's not there.
On the flip side, Dispatcher's (bad one's to quote the title)have no idea what goes on out on the street. They don't always realize that what seems like a minor mistake on their part can have major consequences.
This does not reflect every cop or every dispatcher, but a lack of communication between the two groups leads to this. Not knowing each other's jobs inside-out leads to this. You both work in the same damn field yet you fight and squabble like 5yo girls.
Perhaps if people took the time to teach and learn instead of pissing and moaning on somebodies blog (which accomplishes fuck-all) we could all get the job done to everyone's satisfaction.
I know this post will mean nothing to most of you. You'll go on the same way you always have and the dispatchers will continue as well (for better or worse on both sides)but at least you'll still have something to bitch about.
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Spoken by someone who i'm sure has their own set of knee pads.
5/19/2006 01:26:17 AM////
Nope...Just dig on those of you dolls that own a set
So you think my job as a dispatcher is to serve you the police officer. You have no idea what we do or the conditions we have to work under everyday. We have equipment thats falling apart, while the OC and the JOC all have new equipment and continulaly get new equipment all the time.I serve only my God, if you want someone to SERVE you call your mama
Hey , 5-18-06 @ 11:57
GO FUCK YOURSELF ! YOU PIECE OF SHIT !
zone 10 on first watch is the best!!!!! lupe lyna kim & laura
wish there were more like them!
Hey, 11:57:12, as much as you hate to admit it, many dispatchers are either wanna be cops or cop groupies. We all knowdispatchers have left dispatching for becoming the police. Many couldn't handle it and were back to dispatching. The groupie thing needs no further explaination. How many dispatchers have only "dated" the police". And last I checked, a P.O. with equal time on the job makes more money than a dispatcher.
The issues related to the OEMC personnel, including training of dispatchers, are not new. What has changed under the Huberman regime, however, is the intense pressure OEMC dispatchers and calltakers are under to "serve" their "clients" (they are actually officially referred to as "clients", not citizens, residents or taxpayers). This has meant that calltakers and dispatchers are now held accountable for dispatch times and call volume (answering of 911 calls)despite a severe lack of resources, which include severe personnel shortages, lack of coherent leadership, and non working and outdated equipment (like non working and non updated district maps, computer programs and algorhythms which haven't been updated in years, and consoles which were never properly designed to accommodate 2 person zone dispatching).
This has effectively accomplished an emphasis less on officer safety and one more on "getting the jobs out no matter what" and the present management backs that philosophy up with action, including heavy handed discipline for relatively minor infractions (immediate multi day suspensions are not uncommon for delay of dispatch, calltaker rudeness,or whatever flavor of the week infraction is front and center).
This ideology has had other consequences which directly impact the field units, which are an emphasis on many many more calls coming over to zone for dispatch(calltakers used to have discretion to direct callers to other means of settling their complaints or stating that such and such was not a CPD matter; no more-they are advised to send, send, send and let CPD handle)and in more and more calls coming over as higher priority. OEMC management has recently indicated they wanted secondary dispatchers to answer 911 calls WHILE ASSIGEND TO THE ZONES, effectively making the zones all manned solo. Anyone else see an officer safety issue there? This is management's response to a severe staffing shortage which results in mandatory overtime on 2nd and 3rd watch several times a week, including routine cancelling of lunches and breaks.
Having said that not for the coppers to feel sorry for anyone but for them to understand that the rules are changing and not for THEIR sake or their safety sake and that field units needs are now secondary to the "public". The OEMC prides itself as a world class facility and as a result touts its call volume and responsiveness to the public yet-regrettably for those of us who work here and for the field units who really do depend on us-fails to support the men and women in the room and in the field who keep it all together.
The solution is not OEMC vs CPD. United we should stand against cutting of resources, imposition of outside management from those who are ignorant of demands of job, and demand a comprehensive public information and education campaign to dissuade inappropriate use of city resource. We need to order our unions to work together to address working conditions that affect both sides of the radio and try for win win solutions. Most of all we need to understand that field unit, dispatcher, or calltaker, the city treats all us equally: with disdain, contempt, and total dispensibility (doubt it? refer to the last round of contract negotiations). Let's try to stop the infighting and work together; we should all be on the same page and force the city to respect us and then back it up w resources!!
8:57, I'm not aware of one who "couldn't handle it and were back to dispatching", though I'm sure I might have missed this happening with one or two.
I am, however, aware of several civilians who went and made detective or sergeant within 5 years!
So, really, WTF are you talking about? I mean, nice try, but what a bunch of BS.
hey policeman, to the idiot who thinks dispatchers are wanna be police officers...got news for ya, I have no desire to sit cramped up in a pissy ass squad car, go into roach invested homes dealing with drunk citz, in the rain or snow for a measly paycheck! I'd rather sit in the warm comforts of the 911 center, tell you bastards where to to and sip on my warm hot chocolate!! All while collecting my $75,000/year! Thanks but no thanks. Just so you can say "I'm the police?" That don't mean dick in the grand scheme of things. You losers are a bunch of drunk, suicide waiting to happen crazys! And last I check, a bullet can go thru your temples and create the same result as going thru a dispatchers soooooo come down off your high hopes of being superior, handle your menial disturbances and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!
and another thing....more than half of you police officers are repressed homosexuals anyway so there goes the groupie theory! Hence where all the anger comes from!
Hey PIGS,
WANT A DONUT!
well first off let me start by sayin, WOW! had no idea u (cpd) felt like this, so let us explain what a dispatcher is
or is not....
we r not ur mothers
nor ur secretary, (make ur own damn call backs....i call ur bt # cause i got a fuckin job for ur azz, not cause i like u....u went to the academy didn't u....look that shit up in ur FOP book, don't ask me to run a damn name when u did it already.... i got other shit to do too.. its the same shit on my screen DAMN!!! BUT I UNDERSTAND, OR SHIT IS ALWAYS RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT... get with dat (ebonics)....becasue u had a bad experience dont blame the one u got burned by...ur a grown azz man own up to ur mistakes, u got it cause u wanted it....all i ask iz that u do the job u came to do, or stay @ home cause either way the only thing that matters iz the 1st & the 16th, no matter what happens i still get PAID IN FULL....oh yea i'm 1 of the good 1's.....hollar
this is for all the true people out there dont hate, its all good...ebonics 101.....1st watch...
Don't blame the CPD rank & file for venting here on the blog about the less than thoughtful treatment we get from "da Zone" when we're out taking it left and right from the citizens, our bosses, inspectors and - finally - from our civilian dispatchers.
Sometimes the dispatchers make mistakes that put us in jeopardy. I can't tell you how many times I've gone down on a run for fuel and I look at my screen and I'm on a domestic! Or vice-versa, I'm on a traffic stop and when I check my PDT the zone stacked a DOMBAT on me. Many times I doubt that the dispatcher even has a clue as to the district boundaries and where streets are located because they send us across the district to another beat, then 1minute later I hear them dispatch a job on our beat to the beat car who's working the beat we're heading to. WTF?!?
Sadly we have to always assume that the zone will not look out for us. It is the Beat coppers who have to look out for Beat coppers. I distinctly remember that 1st watch, zone12 dispatchers put out an ASSISTPO job as "Fulton/Central" (dist 015) when I clearly heard the PO who called for backup cars say "Fullerton/Central" (dist 025) -- that's a big difference. It was especially unforgiveable as the curbed driver and his cohort were fighting with the POs at 2400 N. Central. And we all know POs and Sgts who've complained by getting CI numbers against dispatchers and then found themselves dumped into another district for doing so.
Waaaa Waaaa Waaaa.!!! Once again a whiny as PO! You wanted to be the police so don't complain about getting dumped on by the citz! Who cares. And when you bitch ass officers are screaming in the radio and can't get your beat # out I do believe Fulton/Central & Fullerton/central is an honest mistake. Furthermore, if a loser officer was listening to the radio, you could've easily corrected that mistake! So apparently EVERYONE on the zone thought they heard Fulton/Central hence why everyone started going to that location! Put a real complaint on this blog. So far all I see is the bitch ass complaints because you think dispatchers are suppose to treat you like God! Not! The only names that keep appearing throughout this blog of the good dispatchers are the ones that know you buy name, go to the watch parties and kiss your asses. No thanks, I'm fine being one of the bad dispatchers! Jerks ! Now chew on that losers!
and another thing, You are right in your assessment, your fellow officers should look out for you! We shouldn't be the ones looking out for you scared ass pigs! You're a beat number! Get it thru you heads losers! A BEAT NUMBER! NO MORE....NO LESS!
Anonymous said...
Hey PIGS,
WANT A DONUT!
5/19/2006 09:56:15 AM
Yes and a big glass of milk, thank you.
I feel really bad for the next off duty dispatcher who gets stopped for a traffic violation. The bt. # will be on the ticket
That would be a shame, but it would also be a shame if dispatchers actually started enforcing CAPS the way it was written by the PD.
xx10, Oh sergeant! Yoo hoo! I'm all outta rapids, and it says you are next! Wanna be a baller, shot caller, brawler?
XX14, 10-4 on that lunch.
xx90, Oh lieutenant! Yoo hoo! Your sergeants seem to be down on paper, the beat car said to hold em down on a traffic stop, the rapids are hiding in the bushes, and it says Ima supposed to call you next!
xx13, 10-4 on that lunch.
xx61, Yoo hoo! Oh sergeant, your boys all seem to be busy. How about 62 narcotics tickets on the north end?
Yeah, how YOU doin?
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This is all stupid. The basis of the thread was a legitimate beef, if true. If someone is ignoring a PO calling for help, than get it corrected. But a war? All thats gonna lead to is a whole bunch of heartache and pain. You want a war, you better bring a big supply of body bags! And blank to-froms!
Turns out we have a bunch of radio fans at C.A.R.M.A. and ChicagoListeners!
C.A.R.M.A. being the Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association
www.carmachicago.com
ChicagoListeners is chock - full of people listening too!
So, not only is there tape, but there are people out there who hear everything! If you can't get the tape, everyone at these groups keep logs. Check with them.
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