Monday, May 22, 2006

FOP Lawsuit

Someone referred us to Sun Times story today about two officers who are suing the FOP:
  • Two former Fraternal Order of Police members have sued the union, claiming they were kicked out for speaking to the Chicago Sun-Times and another newspaper about underreported salaries in the union's 2003 charitable organization report to the state.
We know of both of the individuals suing the FOP. Both have appeared in various comment threads here and both have reached out to contact us on occasion. Anyone know anything about this or care to comment? We remember there was a large stink on the old SCCN Bulletin Board regarding a bunch of this. And something to do with the 2001 (?) campaign for the FOP.

88 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

1st.....Shawn is a blow heart!!!!!!!!!

5/22/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's "blow hard". A nd please refer to him by his preferred name of Pig Vomit.

5/22/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know both of the people mentioned here and both are knowledgable officers. Both have always been nothing but kind to me. I cannot say anything bad about either of them.

5/22/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its about time we stood up to the puppet that we call our union.

5/22/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The current leadership of FOP Lodge 7 handles truth and criticism like the rulers of a "banana republic", those critical are silenced one way or another.

5/22/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Vote them out of office!

5/22/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hows about we just vote!! Last election more retirees voted than active members. This is a shame and no active member should beef about the current leaders. We you just throw the ballot in the garbage, you throw your voice with it.

5/22/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark "BADA BING" Donahue should use all of his $178,000.00 salary to defend this lawsuit and not the membership's dues but he will say he is defending the "honor" of the FOP and blame others for the lawsuit. If it is all lies Donahue should have filed a lawsuit for "defamation of character" but the the defense to that charge is the "truth" and Donahue could "never handle the truth" could he?

5/22/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry it should when

5/22/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harej is a good man and knowledgeable about union matters. He was an excellent union rep ub 015 before he made detective..on a further not how can the president of the FOP make 178,000 dollars a year and be expected to truly represent our interests. VOTE YOUR CONSCINCE next time around.

5/22/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Good job in 016! said...

I'd like to give a shout out to the 2 females that work uniform together in 016 3rd watch.

Thanks for writting my 61 year old retired city worker father a mover the other day!

I hope you got double points for writting him in your Level 1 DOC. Can I put you in for a DOC Award? Lord knows there are no real criminals in that area.

I'll tell him to get an EVEN BIGGER "FAMILY MEMBER" sticker to cover the entire rear windshield, since your observation skills are not on key.

Again, thanks for fvcking $50.00+ out of a copper's dad! Keep up the good work, Ladies!!

5/22/2006 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for writting my 61 year old retired city worker father a mover the other day!


Didn't see you say that he did NOTHING wrong? Are you saying that the family member sticker means you can break the law? That's news to me.

5/22/2006 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out the bitches on www.copswritingcops.com so the rest of the nation can see how worthless these putas are!

5/22/2006 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think what he is saying maybe some courtesy should have been extended. He did not say a violation was not committed. We are able to exercise discretion on traffic stops. I have never written a P.O. , their Family or anyone over 60 yrs Old. If writing Senior Citizens floats your boat then go at at it, If you ever write my Dad I will find you.

5/22/2006 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Professional courtesy goes a long way esp in this industry. Retired people have it bad enough on a fixed income. Retired coppers paved the way for the new kids on the job, without that 61 yo man's contributions and his coworkers you folks wouldn't have, court time money, susp days that only affected your retirement date and not your bidding senoirity, working day furloughs, watches that didnt rotate every 30 days ,and endless list of benefits, that he didnt have when he started his career. He also protected you when you were a child going to school everyday. Shame on them. Guess they couldn't see any gangbangers to write up. (EWW gangbangers are scary... )
But remember what comes around goes around.
No one is condoning that with the "sticker" you can break the law. Folks do it all the time with and without. I have been bless a couple times with a warning, or just a "slow down" and I have no stickers. But I did reflect on my driving, and it did keep me in check. So the purpose of the traffic stop worked, without the additional fine.

5/22/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry spelling nazi , "blessed"

5/22/2006 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

08:02:36
ur gonna find them and what?!sounds like hot air to me

5/22/2006 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

reality is there are police officer out there that just dont care...they are as anal as can be. by the book...what they dont realize is that the only people that have our back is other police officers....if you were out on a traffic stop and the son-of-bitch starts fighting with you..odds are citizens wont intervene.....but i bet you an off duty p.o. will stop and help you any day of the week.....there have been plenty of times when i had a car stopped when i was 99 and i had an off-duty p.o. pull up and ask me if i needed a hand.....this is why we dont write other coppers and there families....we've got help when you didn't even know it was there.....stay safe

5/22/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Blogger Westcide Dog said...

Let me guess, it was the pretty polish princess and her midget boriquena partner? These two need to buy a clue and go blow Cmdr Price.
Watch what you say to them, the blonde nitwit will put a beef on you!

5/22/2006 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just do your job and go home! No more, No less. Forget the tavern scene after work. Forget the hat bands and FOP buttons on you cars, ITS JUST A JOB!!!!

5/22/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous gardagoon said...

Add TMA's and Department of Revenue to those who refuse to give the POLICE professional courtesy. F#$k those TMA's and DOR tix writing motherf#@ers, payback is a bitch. Anyone have the real story about the TMA on CW1 that was on her radio from the back of the paddy wagon. Priceless....."get me a sergeant, get me a lieutenant of police i'z ben brutalized!"

5/22/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I emailed the whole complaint to SCC. However, he/she did not list it for members to examine. Thanks.

5/22/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 08:02:36


What I Mean what goes around comes around. Since you think I'm full of hot air you must be one of those pusses who write old white people because You are afraid to stop gang-bangers.

5/22/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry I meant to 5/22/2006 08:13:25 PM

5/22/2006 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon SCC, post the complaint!

5/22/2006 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

If someone wants to email the complaint to me, I will post it on our forum if for some reason SCC cannot post it here. Then we will float a promo banner all over the forums (plenty of cops from all over!) linking it to the complaint.

leomemorial@hotmail.com

5/22/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Anonymous said...

I emailed the whole complaint to SCC. However, he/she did not list it for members to examine. Thanks.

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Anonymous said...

C'mon SCC, post the complaint!


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Whoever is claiming they sent us the complaint is misinformed. We just checked the e-mail account AGAIN and we have received zero, zip, zilch, nada in regard to this lawsuit. We were contacted by one of the people involved and offered a copy of the suit when filed, but nothing further was sent to us. We have reached out again to attempt to locate a copy of the suit.

If we get it, we will read it and comment on it. We would even post links to it should it be published online. But please don't imply that we are withholding any info. We don't play that game.

5/22/2006 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous 720 ilcs 5/12-9 said...

Remember, guys.

Threatening a public official (or his/her immediate family) is a CLASS 4 FELONY.

However, there is no law against wishing some "public official" suffers a long, painful death and goes to hell.

5/22/2006 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous test said...

Test

5/22/2006 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:13:25 here, u said at the end of ur comments that if someone wrote ur dad u would find them. my comment once again is you'll do what?u dont specify and i still believe its hot air. and i work in 011 and dont give tickets to white senior citizens for obvious reasons.i actually give tickets and make arrests of career criminals whith long rap sheets

5/22/2006 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are the police you should get respect and a play from other coppers. If you are not the police, it is a diffent story. Anybody can say they are related, or some other bullshit. We, the real police, have no way of knowing if someone is a father, uncle, wife, brother, cousin, or freind of a CPD officer. So many people lie and bullshit us. If you are driving like a big asshole, or you have an attitude when you get stopped, then fuck you, you desserve a ticket. You would be suprised how many guys and girls get stopped driving 80 miles per hour on Archer Ave and then get stopped by CPD and say "my daddy is a copper in narcotics". Well, guess what, fuck you. 80 mps on Archer (30mph zone) you get a ticket. This is not a simple mistake. If you drive like a big fuck asshole, you get a ticket, Beeeeeoooootchhh.!!

5/22/2006 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
8:13:25 here, u said at the end of ur comments that if someone wrote ur dad u would find them. my comment once again is you'll do what?u dont specify and i still believe its hot air. and i work in 011 and dont give tickets to white senior citizens for obvious reasons.i actually give tickets and make arrests of career criminals whith long rap sheets

5/22/2006 09:48:18 PM

Shut the fuck up fag! I WORKED the 011th District too, so what.

I'm not even the guy who posted the comment, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to post threats here that I may carry out in the future.

Just know this my alleged fellow ranger, a case can just as easily be put on you or any other puta cop that has no respect for the family of police...tickets are for the index and for BITCHES.

One more thing, cuz some of you young bucks aren't humbled down enough, I saw plenty of coppers that worked IN the 011th District that weren't worth a pimple on a fly's ass. They only locked up people when they absolutely had to or on TVB's of hypes...if this doesn't apply to you then good, but all the other punks and paper jumping broads that I saw and see there now are cowards.

Afraid of the mule, beefs and testalying. That's right, some of us can REALLY tell.

5/22/2006 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne is a 1st class guy who does his research. If you read the article you will see that the FOP actually amended their paperwork with the Attorney General. Apparently they realized they were wrong. 06:31 has it right on!

5/22/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous It really happens said...

I write your family members and there is nothing that any of you do about it. Talk about hot air. When you going to do something about it? Never.

Tell your wives and kids and "life partners" and aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters and moms and dads and cousins and roommates and friends that drop your name that they need to learn to drive better and stop being such jackasses on the road because they know you and can get out of a ticket.

Enjoy.

5/22/2006 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant ya just feel the love! WE are our own worst enemy!

5/22/2006 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Bozo Criminal said...

and now, time for a chuckle

Bozo criminal for today comes from the International File in Berlin, Germany where an unidentified bozo filled her car up with gas. And, with the price so high, she found that she didn't have enough money to pay for it. So, she came up with a bozo of an offer. She would go to the nearest ATM to get some cash and, as a show of good faith, she would leave her friend behind as a "security deposit." Much to the manager's, and her friend's, surprise, she never returned. He friend told the cops where to find our bozo and she was charged with theft.

5/22/2006 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any info on the police shooting in 003?

5/22/2006 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They amended their paperwork because they made a mistake. That's why pencils have erasers. No fraud was ever alleged. It was an error. Wayne is making hay out of nothing again and using Frank Main to do it. Frank Main is the scumbag reporter who thinks its ok to name cops involved in shootings when he gets jumped by two assholes with guns.

5/22/2006 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:08:24
u are a dumb fuk aren't u?u go on saying u dont post threats if you are going to do it later but u go ahead and start bullshit about putting cases on puta cops for writing family members. let me clarify for u "u are full of hot air".ur not gonna do nothing about anything. keep up with ur daydreaming from reading detective novels about how to put cases on people.moron

5/22/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know how true this FOP suit is or what the deal is but this is what makes this country great,ain't it. Got a beef? Sue. BUT THOSE ARE OUR UNION DUES IN THE FOP BIG PILE. IT ALL COMES BACK TO US...THE WORKING CLASS GUY. THE JOE COP. Nuff said about that, but another thing that kinda pissed me off today was the shootings in Chicago recently that had MONIQUE BOND stated in the newspaper that there is TOO MANY GUNS ON THE STREET. NO SHIT. But, its the IDIOTS that get these guns and its the idiots that when they were ten years old mouthing off to the teachers in the schools the idiots should have got smacked right in the kisser, but no...you can't touch the kids now days. Like too much liberalism. Where's the parental guidance? Try to use any kind of force these days and you are f*cked. In the good ole days people had respect for cops, now thanks to liberal thinking,etc. THATS WHY WE GOT THE SHOOTINGS. NOW WE GOT CAMERAS BEING PUT UP ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THAT MONEY COMING OUT OF JOE THE TAXPAYERS POCKET. WE GOT "PROGRAMS" TO HELP OUT THE POOR MISGUIDED F*CKS. AND IT COMES OUT OF WHOSE POCKET? JOE THE TAXPAYER. THIS SUMMER IS GOING TO BE HELL, BUT HEAVEN FOR THE IDIOTS. IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ....F*CK..another beer bartender.

5/22/2006 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:04 I think I'll join you for that beer in one hour, my sentiments exactly.

5/22/2006 11:29:00 PM  
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5/22/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TIME OUT!!!!! Need an open post this week SCC.

5/22/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I LOVE THE 3RD WATCH FEMALE COPS. SO CUTE.

5/22/2006 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Cops Writing Cops Site is pretty cool. Watch out in WI!!

http://www.copswritingcops.com/home.html

5/22/2006 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't write a 60 year old (doesn't matter what color or race) just because I don't want to lecture or punish someone who's almost old enough to be my parent. That being said, I have no problem with writing a person who "claims" to be a family member of a copper if...

A: The relation to the copper can't be verified

B: The violation was pretty severe

C: The person who commited the violation is a total asshole with a shitty attitude

And yes, I was a Fillmore Ranger, too. Bragging about arresting "real" criminals with a long rap sheet in 011 isn't too hard when it pretty much describes 80% of the population there. If you can't make a felony pinch in 011 it's because you went out of your way to avoid it. Hell, if you do a street stop and run four name-checks, one of them is guaranteed to have a warrant. So lighten up, supercop. Wait 'til you've spent two decades in the ghetto and you've been sued 5 or 6 times... you might have a different perspective on things.

5/23/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I AGREE WITH 12;39 AM
PEOPLE LIE ABOUT BEING RELATED TO COPS ALL THE TIME
MY DAD GOT A TICKET IN THE FIRST DISTRICT IWASNT MAD AT THE COPPER WHO WROTE HIM
HE GOT STOPPED ANOTHER TIME AND THE COPPER TOOK $3 [THREE DOLLARS] FROM HIM ALL HE HAD WAS $6 [SIX DOLLARS] ON HIM

I WASNT MAD AT THAT COPPER EITHER

REGARDING THE ORIGINAL TOPIC THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME HOCUS POCUS DOMINOCUS GOING ON AT 1412 WASHINGTON
THE POWERS THAT BE OVER THERE DO HANDLE CRITICISM LIKE BANANA REPUBLICS OR MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES DO
ALTHOUGH SEAN ISNT MY FAVORITE I WISH HIM LUCK
WE NEED CLARITY AND LIGHT

5/23/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1239 is the same poster as 8:02:36 ur still all "hot air" my fellow "ranger". and i've been sued and been under a confidential investigation. so u can shove ur twenty years and 5 or 6 lawsuits up ur ass

5/23/2006 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP is not a union. I hope those 2 coppers slam the shit out of FOP.

Bend over marky boy.

5/23/2006 02:45:00 AM  
Blogger It's Not All Real said...

"Professional Courtesy" is for sworn members, not family members. A "Courtesy" can be extended to family members, depending on the situation, and their attitude.

I've dealt with asshole family members, and they got what they deserved. I've also dealt with asshole coppers, and they got a "GO FUCK YOURSELF," but not a ticket.

If you have a problem with someone writing a family member, take it up with them. When you post that shit here, you only reinforce to the public at large that reads this blog what a bunch of assholes we are.

I'm no saint, but I try real hard to make sure I follow the rules of the road. I don't want to be pulled over or get in an accident. If you drive right, you don't need a button.

My 2ยข

5/23/2006 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

FOP is not a union. I hope those 2 coppers slam the shit out of FOP.

Bend over marky boy.

5/23/2006 02:45:53 AM

Be careful what you wish for.....any cash settlement or judgement would come out of the FOP treasury (meaning OUR DUES).

Wait til it all plays out and hear every side of the story before you make judgement. If Mark & Company were out of line, they'll pay out of THEIR pocket, not the FOP's.

5/23/2006 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP has insurance, so the money would not come out of our dues.

5/23/2006 04:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget the people involved, whether you like wayne, shaun or mark. here is the basic point.

A union member cannot ask a question or hold union leaders responsible for their action or inaction.

without the possiblitity and in this particular case, it has happened.

the member is THROWN OUT OF THE UNION!!

Freedom of Speech NOT in FOP LODGE 7

and not if you question MARK DONAHUE!

5/23/2006 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It really happens said...
I write your family members and there is nothing that any of you do about it. Talk about hot air. When you going to do something about it? Never.

Tell your wives and kids and "life partners" and aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters and moms and dads and cousins and roommates and friends that drop your name that they need to learn to drive better and stop being such jackasses on the road because they know you and can get out of a ticket.

Enjoy.

5/22/2006 10:13:20 PM

You haven't written MY family, BITCH.

One day you're going to write the WRONG person.

Then you'll see how full of hot hair they REALLY are. COWARD.

5/23/2006 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In 2004, Harej complained internally to the FOP that Donahue underreported his salary to the attorney general's office, the lawsuit said. Later, Harej and Hallinan took their complaints to the attorney general and the newspapers, which published stories."

It looks like they tried to go through the (proper) steps when they found something that wasn't right.

Why is it that Donahue undereported his salary which turned out to be MORE than double?

How come he hasn't gotten into trouble for that?

5/23/2006 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have all the documentation and correspondence to the State and National FOP concerning the actions of the Citywide Team as they controlled the union.

Ask Lumpy Rutherford A/5 Chairmen of the Trustees how many times I gave him information concerning these issues.

The course the Citywide Team took was to stonewall everything.

The loyalty is to the Citywide Team and not the membership of FOP.
They count on no one looking or caring and a lot of the time they pay the percentages.

Well this time the odds went against them and a huge benefit of a lawsuit is

DISCOVERY........

WHAREJ 603

5/23/2006 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why hasn't Donahue gotten in trouble"

FOP endorsed Lisa Madigan over Birkett

and who is in charge of the agency that monitors the reporting of salaries?

Attorney General Lisa Madigan.

in fact as part of the list of charges filed by Bella against Harej he refers to FOPs friends at the Attorney General's Office!

FOP just like City Hall........

5/23/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:39 and 8:02 are NOT the same. I posted the 12:39 response. Why is it so hard for you to fathom the idea that you're NOT a better copper than everyone else? Many of us here spent many years in "working districts" like 11, 7, 15, 10, the duece, etc. Yeah, yeah, yeah... we know, we're all a bunch of old hacks and you're the only "real police" now that we've moved on the greener pastures. Whatever, sonny. Just remember, we were doing all the same shit you're doing now but we did it without the help of the computers you so heavily rely on, with shittier cars, with less manpower/back-up, and all the other modern conveniences that have come about in the past 10 to 15 years. I was the police when you were still playing with Hot Wheels cars, and others here were the police long before your parents even met. It's obvious that you lack respect for the old timers who've payed their dues and slowed down over the years. Shame on you. Just remember, you'll be there too, some day.

5/23/2006 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, so that is one lawsuit in which the FOP is trying to quash the freedom of speech by expelling the two members from the union. That has a chiling effect for future elections. Plus, no member has ever been expelled by the FOP (that I am aware) prior to this, whether under Nolan or Dineen.

But the other part of this question is - What about the EEOC lawsuit? The one that is filed by a pregnant female attorney who was in the office of the FOP and was discriminated against because she was pregnant and driven out by the union officers. They are apparently also already in the deposition phase. The FOP could lose very big on this cause of action.

Good luck to the two officers who filed, they have every right to file. Wouldn't it be interesting if the FOP has to write a monthly rental check out to them for the use of the building!

5/23/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta love when a cop will hammer the family of police, or any other good citizen that made a mistake. But the gangbagging shithead with no DL or insurance, the copper will give them a pass because they don't want to do a TVB and tow the shitheads car.

5/23/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"i've been sued and been under a confidential investigatiion."

There's something to brag about. What a man!

5/23/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, I can't wait to get outta this shithole city, besides all the mules we have to deal with, the coppers themselves are assholes!!!

5/23/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU NEVER KNOW...

U.S. Marshal Killed in Police Shootout

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The Associated Press
May 14, 2006 10:01 PM (8 days ago)
MEMPHIS, Tenn. - A deputy U.S. marshal was killed in a shootout with police officers, who had stopped the agent for driving erratically early Sunday, authorities said. One officer was wounded



Mary Fisher, 46, refused to stop when officers tried to pull her over and led the officers to her home around 6 a.m., according to Sgt. Vince Higgins, a police spokesman.

When the officers told her to get out of the car, she opened her door, pulled out a gun and started shooting at them, Higgins said.

Officer Patrick Taylor, 34, was shot in the leg. He was taken to a hospital, where he remained in stable condition.

The other officer, whose name had not been released, was unharmed.


Both officers have been relieved of duty while the investigation continues.

Fisher was pronounced dead at the scene. Police said they could not say how many times she was shot.

Fisher had been in Memphis for several years and began her career as a deputy marshal in the early 1990s, according to the U.S. Marshal's Office.

"Nobody saw this coming. No, there's no prior history that I'm aware of that would have brought this on," said David Jolley, a U.S. Marshal spokesman.

Sheriff's deputies went to Fisher's home just before 10 p.m. Saturday after a woman there dialed 911 and hung up.

Fisher was gone by the time they arrived, but a work associate at the house told deputies Fisher was delusional and had driven away, according to a joint statement from the sheriff's office and police.

Her car was spotted a few hours later driving recklessly near a crash scene police were investigating, authorities said.

The officers called for assistance, and Taylor and the other officer responded.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

5/23/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To make a long story short, a J.O.Copper wrote my wifes Uncle for going through a Yellow light upon returning from the cementary after burying his Father. The Copper said"Well since he's in the ground now,you don't get to go through intersections without stopping." I was already in the Banquet hall and did not witness this, but did read the ticket.The next day I went to 16 2nd watch roll call and spoke to then Sgt, now a N/W side Tact Lt. who pulled the guy out off roll call and stood there while I was able to "question" this ass about his actions. Then the Sgt "spoke" to this individual and come court day, all was taken care of. This was back in 95/96.They just don't make bosses like they used to!But it is a shame that after all we go through,there are some Coppers who just don't get it about personal courtesy.

5/23/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How hard is it to use the Dudes cell phone and call the alleged family member up? There are alpha files in all the districs or use your computer to look up the guys name.A courtesy call can happen on the streets as well in the station. I'm just saying that if you want to go the extra mile there are ways to verify/disqualify a named being dropped.

5/23/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous other fop dumps in office said...

If true about the FOP female attorney, she is not the only female FOP ran out. Anyone remember Podgorney's sec. that handled med. issue's, good background in labor and was a prior union steward with a big company. Doherty dumped her out of the blue. Reason just not workin out! Did any of you wonder what happened to her?

5/23/2006 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

Here is my .02 cents on the issues being bandied about: the H&H puffenstuff lawsuit, have to see the complaint.
The nonsense pissing match btn "fillmore rangers" and who really is the Po-leece....when I 1st got over to 011, John and Paul, if you worked there you'll know who I'm refering to,pulled me off to the side and said, "So? you got the victim and the offender, now all you need is a good witness otherwise it ain't going anywhere." Golden advice.
With extending goodwill to family members: I've only accidently wrote a family member and that was because said family member never told me who their dad was. The P.O. contacted me and it all came out in the wash. Someone drops a name, I'll get hold of the P.O. -do you know such and such because they are droping your name. Lets take care of our own, because no one else will.

5/23/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's Not All Real said...

"Professional Courtesy" is for sworn members, not family members. A "Courtesy" can be extended to family members, depending on the situation, and their attitude.

I've dealt with asshole family members, and they got what they deserved. I've also dealt with asshole coppers, and they got a "GO FUCK YOURSELF," but not a ticket.

I agree with you.

The only problem is that the asshole coppers that you tell to "GO FUCK YOURSELF" but are not given a ticket get CR's.

Last week, far south side district, jerkoffPO cuts across 3 lanes of traffic, nearly causing a crash, right in front of marked car. When he's pulled over, he doesn't immediately id himself and has an attitude. Eventually the onduty gives him the attitude back and sends him on his way. What does jerkoffPO do??? He goes into the station and gets a CR.

Give a play-get a CR.

5/23/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stopped a Lt.'s kid the other day who I know was scoping out a garage or home to burglarize..he has several theft and burglary arrests in his past..am I supposed to give him courtesy? You have to look at every situation as it is, sometimes people don't deserve any courtesy, just because it's a cop's family member dosent mean they're not going to act like a jagoff and deserve to be locked up..

5/23/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the above poster can't differentiate between the copper's relative being late at a red light and a coppers burglar relative who might commit a burglary he's an idiot. And we have alot of those on the job. Idiot.

5/23/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous sore losers said...

How many times are these two idiots going to post on this subject. Sounds just like they used to at the meetings. Example: Idiot #1-"Why this is my fantastic idea, yours is wrong, Mark" Idiot #2-"Yes, that certainly is a marvelous idea, Mark, you're wrong" Idiot #1-"Why thank you for your wonderful comments on my fantastic idea Mr #2" Idiot #2-"Thank you #1 for acknowledging my marvelous comments on your fantastic idea, and Mark is still wrong". Remember the circlejerk these two pulled on the mikes? (NOT the Mikes)A little levity there, thank you. Give it up already. Nobody liked hearing the shit you had to say to begin with. The only thing you ever did was be a pain in the ass at the meetings, anyway. Especially by law and constitution meetings. Like getting drilled without novacaine or KY.

5/23/2006 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did these people under report their salaries to the IRS as well?????

Just curious!

5/23/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP exercises it's CLOUT and power by dropping potential contender for the presidency from UNION ROLLS. Sounds like what happened to maria Santos when she was thought a threat to da mayor. Also dropped from state thanks to Mark $'s Donahue $165 k a year now.

5/24/2006 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget at the first board meeting of the new administration all the inside guys were voted an additional $500.00 a month just for attending meetings they should be going to. Sounds like a nice side job, actually doing your job.

Plain and simple. They didn't WANT THE MEMBERSHIP KNOWING WHAT THEY MADE.

THEY ALSO GOT THEIR RETRO CHECKS CUT TO THEM WITHIN A WEEK BY THE FOP AND THEY GOT RETRO PAY ON FOP SALARY WHICH WAS INCREASED AS WELL. MUST BE NICE WHEN A GUY IN BLUE ON THE STREET WITH OVER 10 YEARS IS PULLING IN 65K APPROX.
FOP SALARIES FOR INSIDE 8 GUYS OVER 1.5 MILLION IN OUR DUES!!!

AND OUR PENSION FUND IS GOING TO SHIT WITH STEVE ROBBINS THE FOP GUY IN THERE WHO DOESN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MATH.

GOD HELP US ALL! THE FOP ISN'T!!!

5/24/2006 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sometimes parents or family don't mention the police connection until after the citation is written. My dad drives like shit and won't say his son is a cop. He just goes to court and fights the ticket and usually wins.

they may be dogs and afraid but it wasn't mentioned if the PO's father spoke up after immediatly being stopped.

5/24/2006 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

very true i've had the occasion to write a citaion to a po's daughter because of a traffic accident and anothers father during a seatbelt mission.neither spoke up about being related until i came back with the ticket. however all worked out in the end in court.family members have to be taught to tactfully mention the connection before we leave with their license and head back to the car

5/24/2006 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to sore losers:

Get your head out of markey's ass!

and quit smoking that green stuff.

your post really points to the real loser.....

5/24/2006 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One issue a a time -
The professional courtesy goes towards minor traffic violations, not criminal charges such as burglary (mentioned earlier). Next time you see the kid staking out a garage, stake him out. Let's face it the garage he is about to hit is probably one of ours.

5/24/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why won't snake bite a salesman?

PROFESSIONAL COURTESY

5/24/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In regards to the union leadership - These Union Officials are on the same agenda that the previous administration was, and that the next administration will be....
THIER OWN!!!

They were disgruntled with the prio leadership, ran a campaign against them, and won.

And now they are in office, reaping the benefits.

As it was then, is now, and will always be.

5/24/2006 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Union Officials????

You mean Police Officers playing knowledgable union representatives.

5/24/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, I tell people I earn $35,000 annually however make $120K!

Hahahahahahahahhaha

Oops!

5/24/2006 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anything about FOP E-Board fixing parking tickets for them and family members? Non-suit = sustained.

5/25/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for writting my 61 year old retired city worker father a mover the other day!

Teach your retired 61 year old retired city worked dad how to fucking drive!

5/25/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the cop's dad who is not a retired cop-a retired city worker- behaved in such a manner so as not grace himself with "professional courtesy" I personally have been treated less than human by some fellow officers family members. Not to mention-the members of officers families are sometimes criminals- o wait so are a lot of fucking cops!

5/25/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The FOP exercises it's CLOUT and power by dropping potential contender for the presidency from UNION ROLLS. Sounds like what happened to maria Santos when she was thought a threat to da mayor. Also dropped from state thanks to Mark $'s Donahue $165 k a year now.

5/24/2006 01:56:25 AM

It was Miriam Santos, fool. I knew Miriam Santos. Miriam Santos was a friend of mine. And you, Shawn Hallinan, are no Miriam Santos.

5/26/2006 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF SEAN HALLINAN WINS ANY KIND OF SETTLEMENT, SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE HIM 2 SPEND A PERCENTAGE OF IT ON PERSONAL HYGEINE PRODUCTS...THAT IS ONE STINKIN'-ASS MOTHERFUCKER!!!

5/26/2006 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any copper who writes a copper's family member..when that family member is respectful, is a piece of rectum butter!

Who cares if you can't verify that they are who they say they are?

Do you need the mover so bad that you can't extend the benefit of the doubt?

That said..There are exceptions to every rule. if someone is being an ass or...hell! You people know what crosses certain lines.

These retards who write copper's family members to prove a point, or satisfy some sociopathical jonez deserve to be sent into the ghetto and forced to work the REAL street instead of hiding out in 016.

Why do they work in 016????
Because they are afraid, and know that copper's wives and kids typically won't fight with them!

Cowards!

5/29/2006 04:14:00 AM  

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