Addendum to Below Posting
Building on the previous posting, we have this to say:
- If, in fact, the Captain did anything to displease Cline, Daley or any other of a couple of dozen people with enough pull to actually get someone demoted, then there's really nothing to bitch about. All exempts serve at the pleasure of the Superintendent (or whomever is pulling the strings). We can't sit here and make fun of national democrats for making mountains out of molehills when Bush decides certain Attorney Generals need to be fired (even though Clinton did the same thing on a MASSIVE scale) and then claim outrage when the Superintendent (or string pullers) exercise that same right.
- This would appear to be more than just the handicap parking tickets issued to the media. If tickets were issued to the media for parking in handicap spots around 025 and Branch 50, fuck them. Is the media breaking the law or not? Courtesy is a two way street and scoring cheap points to provide a crooked administration with political cover negates the courtesy in our book. You park your media van illegally where we work, you're getting hammered. And we won't be getting demoted, that's for sure.
The news footage of squad cars allegedly being used to block a driveway and street access - can someone explain fully what those cars were there for? Couldn't it have been done on the sly a little more subtly? Park in the rear lot? Park in the garage? Let's face it - this goof is going to be on TV - more so now that he's internationally famous for giving the entire Department a black eye. No one says we have to make it easy for the cameras though - rope off a media area in front of the court. Then send the indicted guy out the back and make the cameras run for their footage - you could even start an office pool and pick the fleetest of foot.
Do we really have to point out all the indicted politicians who frequently exit through loading docks and other limited access areas down at the Federal courts? Or convicted brass who were spirited away with nary a camera in sight?
Do we really have to point out all the indicted politicians who frequently exit through loading docks and other limited access areas down at the Federal courts? Or convicted brass who were spirited away with nary a camera in sight?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
63 Comments:
True this incident was handled by obviously inexperienced young coppers who had no clue what to do but now thanks to you kids we are in more shit! you protected a criminal sissy boy that beat a little girl cause pussy boy could not get another drink! You may lose sometime unless your capt takes FULL responsibility! nice stick your neck out for a douche bag like abbate! now pay the price! Ticket all illegal news vans taht is the law but your rodeo type of round-up in the lot looked like 5th grade classmates!
SCC said:
Do we really have to point out all the indicted politicians who frequently exit through loading docks and other limited access areas down at the Federal courts? Or convicted brass who were spirited away with nary a camera in sight?
UMMMM...Yes!
Oh never mind SCC you probably dont have the resources or storage space to backup that statement anyway. Cause its not like someone stole money from the Memorial fund or something.
Heck I'd like to see a thread on nepotism. Whos related to who? Who is babysitting whos kids. You know that there is at least one out there who's wife was watching someones baby so hubby could be a sgt or in a spot
You have to have some physical control over the media wolves or they will litterally run over you.
What that goof in the bar did was wrong, but the TV cameras will be in our locker rooms if you don't stop them. You have to draw a line.
Please, I hope that somebody got a picture of the TV news trucks in the handicapped zones and puts them on the internet. Then we can have a Persons with Disabilities rep call on the president of the news organization to take disiplinary action.
Maybe we would be less inclined to be angry at these media wolves if they made it sound like this bar incident was the rare aboration that it is and not paint all of us with the same brush just for the ratings.
Abbate asside, we still need to stand by our own. That Capt. should take your spot, PHILLIP! Show some balls and explain he is entitled to due process like anyone else. Stop shitting all over us, we get enough of that on the street.
Oh, and can you make Williams' memo into a little tube and shove it up both your asses? Thanks.
Well if you've ever been to 025, then you know that there side drive is clearly makre for police vehicles and personnel only. Last time I checked, the media isn't and never will be a memeber of CPD.
So, you can't fault the guys in the squad for parking there.
On the other hand, Abbate should be man enough to walk into the front door like all the rest of the defendants.
The WC was dead wrong in sending those guys out there to block the front parking lot entrance. Writing tickest for cars parked in handicapped spots is another story.
When all is said and done, though we (CPD) come out looking like assholes....
I think the MEDIA should go back thru all the high profile beefs/complaints and line up the offenders with their Clout!
Find out why the non politically connected are fired for minor indiscretions but the heavy clout babies seem to skate with minor suspensions or get fired and then re-hired because of who they know!
Such as LT. Stalker now at academy retread! Sgt. groper of breasts!
How about the area 4 gun team? Anybody ever hear of a good working non connected p.o. goin to an elite team. Who are their connections and why is there beef buried until now!
NOW HERE IS A GOOD MEDIA STORY!
ANYBODY WATCHING???
not to make excuses but... the 2nd district blocks the lot daily with their personal car to deny entrance from wentworth.
Cline is the Bigger Pussy!
True this incident was handled by obviously inexperienced young coppers who had no clue what to do but now thanks to you kids we are in more shit! you protected a criminal sissy boy that beat a little girl cause pussy boy could not get another drink! You may lose sometime unless your capt takes FULL responsibility! nice stick your neck out for a douche bag like abbate! now pay the price! Ticket all illegal news vans taht is the law but your rodeo type of round-up in the lot looked like 5th grade classmates!
3/27/2007 11:00:00 PM
To the first poster on the thread:
FUCK YOU
True this incident was handled by obviously inexperienced young coppers who had no clue what to do but now thanks to you kids we are in more shit! you protected a criminal sissy boy that beat a little girl cause pussy boy could not get another drink! You may lose sometime unless your capt takes FULL responsibility! nice stick your neck out for a douche bag like abbate! now pay the price! Ticket all illegal news vans taht is the law but your rodeo type of round-up in the lot looked like 5th grade classmates!
3/27/2007 11:00:00
Hey old vet, when the last time you been to court?
Branch court starts at 0900 and 1330. Unless days in 025 is staffed by reversed seniority, this
"rodeo" starred a few old flea bags like yourself.
please read this
http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=85774
the comment from tryone got to love it
Abbatte is a thug, agreed. However, I tip my hat to the coppers in 025 for showing some spine. It's not like the media hasn't shown the video a hundred times. Good luck to the ousted Captain. I will attend your retirement party. Oh, by the way, Cline is non-suiting all the tickets. Let's see if the media reports that! It's on boys.
Why doesn't Abbate just act like a man and face the media? He doesn't have to answer questions, but why is he afraid of a bunch of blonds with microphones? Oh wait, I forgot...he beats up women. He's not a man at all, he's a big wussy. And all you fools are protecting him, making excuses for him, blaming the media. lol. what a joke. You only have yourselves to blame.
both lots are marked police personnel only. Did you hear what I said BOTH lots front and back. The only public parking is across grand ave.
The media is pissed because police cars blocked off the driveway east of the station which is private property.
And who is Monique Bond to refer to her and us police officers as being "We". Last time I checked she didnt graduate from the training academy. Unless of course she did some under the desk classes.
The W/C showed some major league balls by what he did. Yes Abbate is a scumbag and no copper is going to condone what he did. But the W/C was protecting his house, our house.
We are expected to find legal parking on calls and other things. Since when is the media exempt. Its time the department stood up and grew some balls. Yesterday a boss decided to do what few bosses do and thats stand up.
Abbate was taken out a side entrance at the request of someone other than police personnel but the media didnt state that. The W/C was just trying to keep something bad and sad getting worse.
I commend the W/C for his actions and I tell Fat Phil to grow some balls. He is a COWARD and should be ashamed of his actions yesterday.
Let the record be straight and reflect that what Abbate did should be dealt with accordingly as we do not support this idiot for what he did but we do support the W/C for his actions.
The big brass of the CPD should be ashamed of themselves for allowing the media to run this department.
In summary , Abbate you are a scumbag and we hope you do jail time for your actions. And uppper brass of the CPD grow some balls and put the media in its place.
FUCK PHAT PHIL!
Critical mass approaching!?
Outrage at the media’s bias and the power they have over us through the exempts.
Substantial proof that the individual occupying the office of Superintendent is irrelevant and that regardless who has the position, they are not there to help the P.O. Take the Superintendent out of the equation!
F.O.P. silent and ball-less (more proof of their complicity)
Contract negotiations during a time that we, coincidentally (?) again, are cast in a bad light.
Upcoming F.O.P. election.
And the one thing (that they don’t control and didn’t count on) that’s different this time…
A forum for COMMUNICATING our OUTRAGE
(Sorry, I wish there was a way to use italics instead of CAPITALS so posts didn’t look like a commie leaflet)
Shitty days to be the police but maybe better in the long run if this gets us to the flashpoint. Enough outrage to finally shake off complacency? We shall see. If not, this too shall pass.
"Ability is of little account without opportunity." - Napoleon Bonaparte
I you want to really see a poor allocation of resources, go to The Shrine of the Reverend Meeks on Sunday. 005th District squad cars all over the place, sitting in the parking lots, providing traffic control.
Former Cpt. M.B. used to love to drop a dime to the media to get himself some attention.
Mark Buslik is a thoughtful, cautious individual who does not act without careful consideration to the consequences of his actions. Therefore I believe that he is being made a scapegoat for someone above him.
I would guess that the person responsible for this decision is either a political heavyweight or a "Friend of Phil" and therefore is immune to disciplinary action. Buslik has no clout and can be sacrificied.
Cline is the one who should be demoted as he has become an embarrassment to the Department and the City.
Tough shit, yeah Abbate is a piece of garbage but I would stand up for that Capt/Lt anyday. We have to stick together, not in defense of bad apples but us as a whole. Fuck these bosses, fuck this media, and fuck FOP! Come to think of it fuck this job!
FYI... The reason the videotape hasn't been released from the off-duty P.O's ass whooping at the Jefferson Tap incident is because one of the P.O.'s (P.O. Powers) is the son of the recently deceased Commander Bill Powers of the Personnel Sect. HQ was hoping to save him as a favor to his dad. And while I personally don't have a problem with that (especially when it could help the other dopes out). However, now that the cat is outta the bag in the media about that Jefferson Tap tape it will be interesting to see how Cline hammers the Jefferson Tap P.O.'s when he gets on TV and talks about firing Abbate (who is a tool) but, fair is fair.
Truly,
A/4 Detective involved in original investigation
This is total bullshit. First of all, the officer was wrong and should be arrested and fired. We all know, however, that if joe citizen was caught on tape beating someone in a bar and that person did not suffer great bodily harm, the ASA would flat out reject a felony charge. The fact that he was off duty and not acting in his capacity as a police officer should prevent the misdemeanor battery charge from being upgradeable. Why are we being held to a higher standard than any other citizen?
This whole "department" has gone to shit. From clout-babies to snitches to "Bosses" who get pissed when its time to do their jobs.
Could it have happened this way>?
1. Media parks like Assholes in the lot clearly marked POLICE ONLY. More media assholes arriving, thinking "POLICE ONLY" translates to "Do whatever you want"
2. Coppers do the right thing, go to WC.
3. WC goes outside, views said Asshole parking.
4. WC tells coppers to ticket said asshole parkers and to have parked cars block future asshole parking attempts.
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I saw this ALL THE TIME (It was the Shitbag Defendants parking, not asshole Media) when I used to go to court at AREA 1 many moons ago. There was a Marked car on Wentworth shooing said Defendants away from the lot. If this still goes on, WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?
If the events happened as I DESCRIBED above (I was not there, so I don't know) I think what Cline did was bullshit.
PS This job gets suckyer every year :(
The A5 Deputy Chief(Sam Christian)is thinking:"I just got my ass chewed out by a Walrus..Its time to retire."
3 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think since we can't strike we should have a 3 day period of ALL CPD coppers not do a single thing. No traffic stops, no tickets, no foot chases, no arrests, ect.... Do the bare minimum of work and ride out your jobs. Besides that is what the City and Deptment are heading towards anyway - and they can't fire us all!!!!
Im in florida hanging out....the news pretty much leaves me alone these days....im spending my pension on this invention I have, see, its this little black box......
That Capt. should take your spot, PHILLIP! Show some balls and explain he is entitled to due process like anyone else.--------------WELL IT'S AN APPOINTED 'MERIT" SPOT.....LIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY THE SWORD....IF THE MEDIA READS THIS, SHAME ON YOU FOR YOUR INTERVIEW WITH THE 7 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER OF FIREMAN W. GRANT RIGHT AFTER HE WAS KILLED...SHE HAS NO CLUE THAT SHE JUST LOST HER FATHER, AND YOUR STICKING YOUR CAMERA IN HER FACE.....F**** THE MEDIA WHORES.....
3/27/2007 11:00:00
Ummmm- 025 on days?!?!?!? The only young uns there are PPO's - the rest are quite a few years into their careers. So-- I guess 'your kind' were the players in this mess.
025 is the sh*t hole of the city. The place is cursed.
To the first poster on the thread:
FUCK YOU
3/28/2007 02:41:00 AM
I second that. The only driveway that was blocked was the one that clearly says "police parking only." Nobody other than the police have a right to the back lot. The media DOES NOT have a right to park where ever they please, especially in handicap spots. Some say the capt. should be demoted, some say he should be Supt., I say he should be Mayor. Phil, you are a DISGRACE to every working police officer that has ever worn a uniform.
And 3/27/2007 11:00:00 PM, 3/28/2007 02:41:00 AM summed it up perfectly, "FUCK YOU!!!"
Lets see if the Shomrin Society sits still for this one-the Captain was 100% correct for preventing access to the rear lot. It was a frenzy out there and anyone else would have been charged with mob action. A mission was being run with numerous prisoners being brought into 025. The knucklehead from 020 was escorted by County personnel, not CPD. The media thinks they are in charge of the Department and by the kneejerk reaction of Hanhardt & Hinchey's pal I guess they are. Tim O'Conner must be spinning in his grave.
That worthless fat piece of shit we call our Supt. said that blocking the entrance to the "POLICE LOT" was a misuse of department personnel that should have been out patrolling the streets of shitcago. Then please you tub-o-lard explain to me how wolf packing, b teams, seatbelt missions, secret squirrel units, and god knows what else is not a misuse of personnel that would be better off patrolling the streets.
One of the greatest captains ever on this job was launched last night from 018 by Commander Georges (018). Georges, you are a piece of shit!! You should talk to your father In-Law more Steve, he was a good guy!
To clarify:
The judge had the court Sgt.take the bad guy out the back in an effort to maintain control of his courtroom
The W.C prevented the media from entering Police only parking lot to maintain control of his District - you did see the C.C.S. prisoner van being loaded in the driveway behind the marked car, right?
The traffic guy assigned to the mess wrote parkers in a court lot on illegally parked cars - there was plenty of parking across the street, but that does not count I guess.
Sounds like people doing their job.
Th Captain was completely correct. It's too bad that fat bastard and the dumb chubby bastard mayor bent over and let the media fuck over the Captain. The media was pissed because they didn't get access. So they cried to the Mayor and viola!!! Fuck the police and show them who's boss. This shit has got to fucking stop. Media credentials do not give anyone the right to park illegally. They are not an emergency vehicle and shold not be given special conscideration. Media passes are only good for press confrences and for limited access to crime scenes. Our own orders say we will not crerat a "perp walk" situation. The parking lots at the 025th District are not public lots. They are restricted to police and court personell. Since the media is neither, FUCK THEM. If the squads stopped all media from following the "hero" pussy Abatte, tat would be a different story. This is a fucking shame and close to criminal. Fuck the media, write them whenever they are wrong. No breaks for those fucking liberal ambulance chasing pukes...
When the real truth gets out why the Captain did what he did, Cline will look like a real A$$...Stay tuned!
It was nice to see these officers take a stand against the media barrage. This is a police building/courtroom not a media circus. They have no right to illegally park their vehicles wherever they please and no right block the entrance way to the court.
I'm glad the Captain has some balls. Too bad the Big Brass doesn't.
Thumbs up Captain & PO's in 025!
just saw channel 9's coverage of the "incident" at branch 50. looked to me like the p.o.'s were simply limiting access to parking lots that are clearly marked as parking for police and court employees. somehow the drama seeking media twisted this into "were are being denied access to the courts" this was clearly not the case and reporters could have walked into the court building like anyone else. feel bad for the captain. if they fuck over a captain for not doing the politically correct thing think about what they are willing to do to the average p.o. or sergeant. give the department nothing. they are horrible and cline should resign.
There's not a copper I know who hasn't gotten drunk and done something embarassing. We don't need to jump on our own when their down. Leave that to the media and politicians.
Hey So-Called Det. from A/4 who handled the original incident why don't you identify yourself. You feel it necessary to identify other PO's involved why don't you tell us your side of the story since I'm sure you've seen the video. If you are a det. which I'm sure you are not you should be ashamed of yourself for getting on a public blog ID'ing fellow coppers. Let the media do their job, don't do it for them.
WERE SCREWED!!! I'll BET THIS SCANDAL WILL BE FELT IN OUR NEW CONTRACT.
I’ve known Captain Marc Buslik for over 20 years now. When he was a young copper he sometimes came across as being a little arrogant. Over the years I found it wasn’t arrogance at all but an infinite confidence in himself and his abilities. I fully understand “not everybody likes everybody” so I’m sure Marc has his distracters. However, one thing remains: he was the “only” boss who has shown some stones in recent years. I ask Superintendent Cline the following:
Why wasn’t Commander Boehmer demoted? She was this goof Abbate’s boss, she had to know Abbate was a loose cannon.
Why wasn’t ADS Kirby canned? She supposedly is in charge of IAD with oversight responsibilities of OPS. She had to have a hand in this case somewhere along the line.
Why wasn’t Commander Rivera demoted? Was he in his office with his head up his ass when 025th District personnel were attempting to maintain order in the area and not allow this to morph into more of a media circus then it is already?
Why wasn’t Deputy Chief Christian demoted? His office is at Area #5. Was he in the office with Rivera when this all went down?
God Bless You Marc Buslik – I’m sure the guys that worked for you are appreciative of the fact you backed us and not those rotten – rotten – rotten – rotten – rotten – pieces of shit called the media. By the way, who the “f” ever gave that idiot Monique Bond the job of representing the Department?
Interesting blog, you guys.
I had a couple of thoughts for you.
1. You never ticket media cars at any public event, or downtown at City Hall, Dirksen, wherever. Those tickets at Area 5 were not about "enforcing the law." They were about sticking it to the media. I don't understand how that is in your interest. Maybe it makes some of you feel good. To me, an average citizen, it makes you look petty and vindictive. I'm already frightened enough of any encounter I have with you.
2. I don't understand why any of you has an ounce of sympathy for this idiot who has made such an ass of himself by beating up that girl in the bar. You guys have it pretty good in this town. Why don't you ask your friends at LAPD about how much they like their system under the consent degree? Checkout lapdonline.org, click on the blog, and you will see. Keep this up and you will get a system like theirs. I guarantee you that you will not like it. I'm not sure I will like it either.
3. Indicted politicians are generally NOT allowed to go out the loading dock at Dirksen, unless there is some valid security concern. Last year, there was an incident involving a very pushy female TV reporter and a CSO in the lobby. The CSO did not appreciate the reporter putting building visitors at risk by running through the lobby in pursuit of her quarry. There was a big to-do, and the reporter called the CSO a racist. One of the results of all this was an order from the chief judge creating a roped-in media area between the two elevator banks, within sight of the path that perps must take to get out, no matter which elevator bank they take. And no running in the lobby. So it is possible to accommodate everyone's concerns without making yourselves look so darned foolish.
4. You keep saying how unfair it is for people to think that the Abbate and Jefferson incidents are more than isolated incidents. One problem with that is that as Chicagoans, we've done a lot of living in this town, and we've seen you guys day in and day out. We've seen enough to know that most of you are outstanding, but that there is a SIGNIFICANT number of problem people, and no effective mechanism in place to remove them or keep them under control. So we get incidents like these, with the bad publicity. I'm sorry, but I don't see anything unfair about the public discussion that is going on, and the media is a necessary instrument to get that dialogue going.
5. I am going to reserve judgment on your blog as your preamble asked me to do. I have not read the whole thing. I do find many of the posts I've seen to be pretty troubling. I hope that the attitude of "you don't like it, then f--- you" is not a prevailing attitude. But I worry that it is. I will continue exercising tremendous care around you folks, because as a group, I genuinely don't trust you. That's too bad for both of us.
See you on the streets, and, uh, be careful out there. I know I will be.
I was just watching the 5pm news on channel 5.The layer representing the beating victim of SCUMBAG ABBATE is also the layer for a a family.The layer say the pos executed the man.The police are being tried and found guilty by the media and PHAT PHIL is buying into it by saying he wants to strip the p/o's of their powers take them off the street until there is a finale resolve.That just sickens me.Even if you shot some one.wether you kill them or not and it is surely an accident how the hell are you going to try to send a p/o to prison for an accident.It just doesnt add up.sure some scumbag gang banger getting his ass kicked by another banger pulls out a gun and kills him.felon or not why the hell is it ok for that and a cop 100% honest gets in a legit shooting gets crusified by the media and PHIL.OH i KNow mabe its because Easter is around the corner and we need another inocent person crusified.
I would attend a Benefit in a Heartbeat for Capt. Buslik. He was right, and is just a scapegoat. Fuck the Media, they should be ticketed EVERYTIME they park illegally, everywhere. Don't be afraid to do it.
TO CAPT> BUSSLICK(sic)
I never worked for you,& I have come across you several times on this job. Wasn't to happy with you, But hey, It doesn't matter.
I applaud you; AND now think very highly of your action. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, I'm sorry for what the SUPE did to you; however, I have full confidence that you will be restored later.
Morale is at its worst & I am amazed at how the SUPE COW-TOES to the Media. It's time for a change
GOOD LUCK CAPT. Buss.
I propose April 1st as come out for Capt Mark Buslik day. We should meet at 025 and march in front of the station demanding he be brought back carrying signs showing him support.
As far as a work slowdown goes lets do it. Let the fucking rats that infest this city have it. Imagine if you will the blue line that keeps the sanity in this city. If it wasnt for us noone would be safe.
Media whores should be ashamed of the way they handle themselves, no better than crack dealing prostitutes.
Phat Phil you and the rest of your henchmen should be ashamed of yourselves for what you have done to this department over the past few yrs.
Please tell me what you all think about April 1st ? Meet in front of 025 showing support for the captain who was protecting his house. Of course the media will try to say we are showing support for Abbate so anyone bringing signs should make them very clear where our support lies.
Capt thanks for standing up to the machine. You have our respect and support
I believe the media recently did an expose on illegally parked marked police vehicles. Not once, during the current hoopla, did I hear one media representative state that they parked their cars illegally. Right down the line and by the book with them from now on.
I think the Capt. should be promoted for his actions if anything. This department is definitely running short of any bosses with balls these day's. When are we going to have a superintendent that is going to stand up for his people in stead of cower to people like the media! I guess we need to get a Mayor that stands up for his Police Department first.
As far as Abbate goes....he needs to be hung! The only special treatment he should receive is to get to pick the color of noose that is going to go around his neck!
AND YES....BUSLIK / SEIZER SHOULD RUN IT!!!!
Fuck the media.
The media as an institution is full-of-shit!
They are suppose to report the news, NOT fabricate news stories!
Example:I'm watching the news about the Abate court appearance at Branch 50 and what do I see?
Some little "pimp-sqeek" news reporter being interviewed by some other reporter about how he (was nearly arrested for trying to do his job today)
Fucking punk was so full of himself acting like he just survived reporting from the 1968 DNC or the TET-OFFENSIVE.
Fuck those media hypocrites.
I recall a burglar alarm at the bucktown home a few summers ago of an F/1 female reporter where there was drugs everywhere..looked like a roman orgy had taken place there.
Or
How about the M/1 sportscaster who was drunk and having a domestic on the street with his white girlfriend also in Bucktown about 6 or 7 years ago. He got a break from CPD and still acted like a chump.
Or
The brother of a media celebrity who got a break when he was stopped on North Ave with a Prostitue.
I could right a Book!
The Captain is now a Lt. What a damn shame.
to: 3/28/2007 05:11:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Interesting blog, you guys.
I had a couple of thoughts for you.
1. You never ticket media cars at any public event, or downtown at City Hall, Dirksen, wherever. Those tickets at Area 5 were not about "enforcing the law." They were about sticking it to the media. I don't understand how that is in your interest. Maybe it makes some of you feel good. To me, an average citizen, it makes you look petty and vindictive. I'm already frightened enough of any encounter I have with you.
2. I don't understand why any of you has an ounce of sympathy for this idiot who has made such an ass of himself by beating up that girl in the bar. You guys have it pretty good in this town. Why don't you ask your friends at LAPD about how much they like their system under the consent degree? Checkout lapdonline.org, click on the blog, and you will see. Keep this up and you will get a system like theirs. I guarantee you that you will not like it. I'm not sure I will like it either.
3. Indicted politicians are generally NOT allowed to go out the loading dock at Dirksen, unless there is some valid security concern. Last year, there was an incident involving a very pushy female TV reporter and a CSO in the lobby. The CSO did not appreciate the reporter putting building visitors at risk by running through the lobby in pursuit of her quarry. There was a big to-do, and the reporter called the CSO a racist. One of the results of all this was an order from the chief judge creating a roped-in media area between the two elevator banks, within sight of the path that perps must take to get out, no matter which elevator bank they take. And no running in the lobby. So it is possible to accommodate everyone's concerns without making yourselves look so darned foolish.
4. You keep saying how unfair it is for people to think that the Abbate and Jefferson incidents are more than isolated incidents. One problem with that is that as Chicagoans, we've done a lot of living in this town, and we've seen you guys day in and day out. We've seen enough to know that most of you are outstanding, but that there is a SIGNIFICANT number of problem people, and no effective mechanism in place to remove them or keep them under control. So we get incidents like these, with the bad publicity. I'm sorry, but I don't see anything unfair about the public discussion that is going on, and the media is a necessary instrument to get that dialogue going.
5. I am going to reserve judgment on your blog as your preamble asked me to do. I have not read the whole thing. I do find many of the posts I've seen to be pretty troubling. I hope that the attitude of "you don't like it, then f--- you" is not a prevailing attitude. But I worry that it is. I will continue exercising tremendous care around you folks, because as a group, I genuinely don't trust you. That's too bad for both of us.
See you on the streets, and, uh, be careful out there. I know I will be.
In Response,
1. The Officer who wrote the tickets at br 50 has in the past written tickets to the media who parked in the handicap spots along with non media violators. If it was a sticking it to the media as you say he would have written those not in handicap spots but still illegal
2. Nobody I work with has any sympathy for Abbatte.
3. The 25th Dist is not the Dirksen building. It is a operating district and area headquarters. The W/C (Capt) has the responsibility for its security. And yes, on high profile cases defendants have been allowed to use the back door to avoid the media frenzy.
4. I also have done a lot of living in this city, my whole life, and yes there are some problem Officers but there is no way we come close in percentage to the problem citizens living in this city. We are expected to act at a higher standard than most humans but it is OK for the citizens to act like animals.
5. I know a lot of people who like to lump all of us in one group and as you say don't trust us. All I ask is you keep an open mind when you deal with me and I will do likewise and not try to lump you automatically in one category.
3/28/2007 08:53:00 PM
Lets promote him to super. wait to the media pries into the gold stars problems how many can we mention that are in trouble or were and now got promoted to fuck us? many of them! life is not fair this dept does not even come close fake tests, classes given where some get the answers before the test,people fail but get "MERIT" promoted etc.
What exactly was wrong with the way 025 handled the media? We park in a bad spot we get bad press, they park wrong and all they can say is "we have alway's been allowed". That big drunken goof beats up on that little bartender and we are all drunken brawlers. Abbate was wrong and we all think that even me....but, After watching that video several times, that lad just may beat the agg' batt' in a bench trial just because he was not the aggressor, that little girl pushed him to where he fell to one knee and then he turned stupid. Lighten up on P. Cline, he works for the mayor and he's doing his job exactly the way we should expect him to.
o14th commends capt.angrone we lost a great fuckin boss just like evrything the good ones have to pay for the bullshit capt.is a real straight shooter ole timer ole schooler 018th your getting one hell of a boss now were gettin buslik a real arrogant prick who the best decision he ever made was to ticket those media jagg offs please dont bring that hillbilley mentality that inflicts 025th to our district
Went out with a friend of mine from 25 who works days and was there yesterday. I thought the Capt. was dead wronf for helping this goof Abate and starting a war with the press. Then my friend told me what really happened.
The Capt. was ordered by the Judge to take Abate out the back door. Abate only got special tratment because the Judge wanted it, not the police.While the press usually geyts a break, they were terrible yesterday. But only one press truck got a ticket for being in a handicapped zone. Other cars got tickets so no one could say they were picking on the press, but they weren't press cars. The press was parking in the lot for police officers and where the squad cars are parked which normally they can do but yesterday they overwhelemed the lot so no onw could park when they brought in prisoners or came to work. The Capt. took the action he thought was necessary to secure the lot.
He says he heard that Cline can't demote the Capt. without the proper proceedures being followed and even moving him to another Dist. for disciplinary purposed is a contract and general order violation. So, Cline violated the contract, violated the general orders, and may have slandered the Capt. because he didn't get the facts. The Capt. will probably end up suing Cline, the Dept. and the City.
I asked if the Capt. got a CR on Cline for violating a General Order but he said no. I guess the CApt. is waiting to see what the Capt's union does. Will IAD or OPS get a CR on Cline if they find he violated the order?
i was just watching "Judgement Day' starring ARNOLD when it dawned on me that the fight scene in the bathroom between Arnold and the hot female cyborg resembled that of the infamous A.T. video,and many of the WWE wrestling smackdowns that i have watched.After everything was over all parties involved seemed to be perfectly fine to me, but to those that view films like these,they all swear that its for real. Cant wait to see the Jefferson video
I would bet, and I don't usually bet, that there is NO ONE in either OPS or IAD that would register a CR against Cline, for anything....any remedy against him (on behalf of the Capr from 025) would have to come from the Capt's union, or via a lawsuit, against him and the city. All of that said, the demoted Capt. will either be "re-promoted", and/or compensated for his troubles; Cline will retire eventually (sooner, maybe, rather than later), maybe take another useless bullshit job, paying big money in addition to his pension, and maybe, just maybe, some officer will stop him for a traffic violation, he will say "I'm Phil Cline, I used to be the CPD Supt.", and the officer will say....huh? I need your license and insurance...
Anonymous said...
One of the greatest captains ever on this job was launched last night from 018 by Commander Georges (018). Georges, you are a piece of shit!! You should talk to your father In-Law more Steve, he was a good guy!
3/28/2007 01:48:00 PM
Hey Commander OOPAH strikes again. This micro-managing fat fuck is driving all of 018 crazy with is BS and now this? Watch for bids to come flying out of 1160 N. Larrabee.
Commander Powers went after PO'S with no juice, When he was the Commander of personnel this was a known fact, He was a nasty Bully. Commander Powers did the little dirty for the dept. The Fat spineless pussy boy Cline is mad at the rest of us legit po's because the cat is out of the bag, he Cline was taking care of sunny boy Powers as Ann Egan Had done for baby Cline when baby Cline worked for her. This is the real code of silence
Cline won't retire until he can get his son promoted.
To hat lives:
I appreciate your responses. I have only a few rejoinders, which I'll put in all caps but not to scream.
1. The Officer who wrote the tickets at br 50 has in the past written tickets to the media who parked in the handicap spots along with non media violators. If it was a sticking it to the media as you say he would have written those not in handicap spots but still illegal. FAIR ENOUGH. BUT I KNOW FULL WELL THAT MEDIA VEHICLES ARE NOT ROUTINELY TICKETED. I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS A PRINT GUY AND I GOT THE TICKETS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE SOME BIG SATELLITE DISH ON MY CAR. AND NO I DIDN'T PARK IN THE HANDICAPPED SPACES.
2. Nobody I work with has any sympathy for Abbatte. ALSO FAIR ENOUGH. BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHALANX THAT WAS SET UP TO PROTECT HIM FROM BEING PHOTOGRAPHED. PROTECTING HIM FROM THE MEDIA WAS AN ACT OF SYMPATHY NOT AFFORDED TO OTHERS.
3. The 25th Dist is not the Dirksen building. It is a operating district and area headquarters. The W/C (Capt) has the responsibility for its security. And yes, on high profile cases defendants have been allowed to use the back door to avoid the media frenzy. CITY STREETS SURROUNDING DALEY CTR, DIRKSEN, CITY HALL, ETC. ARE FREQUENTLY USED BY MEDIA VEHICLES WORKING ON STORIES AND ARE NEVER TICKETED. IF YOU ARE TALKING DIRKSEN ON THE BACK DOOR, IN THE TIME I SPENT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THAT BUILDING I KNEW OF ONE DEFENDANT WHO WENT OUT THE LOADING DOCK, AND HIS NAME WAS JEFFREY ERICKSON. HE DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY UP THE RAMP. EVERYONE ELSE GOES OUT THE FRONT, INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR.
4. I also have done a lot of living in this city, my whole life, and yes there are some problem Officers but there is no way we come close in percentage to the problem citizens living in this city. We are expected to act at a higher standard than most humans but it is OK for the citizens to act like animals. IT IS NOT OK FOR CITIZENS TO ACT LIKE ANIMALS, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY OK FOR YOU TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD BECAUSE WE GAVE YOU THE BADGE AND THE GUN AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT MORE FROM YOU. ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT LIVES BY A HIGHER STANDARD. I WISH YOU WOULD EMBRACE IT.
5. I know a lot of people who like to lump all of us in one group and as you say don't trust us. All I ask is you keep an open mind when you deal with me and I will do likewise and not try to lump you automatically in one category. OK BROTHER, I DON'T DISAGREE. YOU GUYS JUST SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME LATELY, AND I THINK MANY SHARE MY FEARS. IF I STEP OUT OF LINE WITH YOU, IT'S MY HIDE. I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
PEACE, OFFICER.
3/28/2007 10:07:00 PM
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