Beating a Dead Horse
Or a live bartender. The story that just won't die:
- ABC7 news has learned that suspended Chicago police officer Anthony Abbate is about to face more criminal charges. Sources say Abbate will be named Friday in a 15 count indictment in connection with the beating of a female bartender caught on a tavern surveillance camera.
Officer Abbate was stripped of his police powers and was initially charged with aggravated battery. The additional charges, sources say, will include official misconduct, conspiracy, intimidation and improper communication with a witness.
Wow. From a case that barely made "Simple Battery" to a 15 count indictment to be announced Friday. My, my, my. They must really really want to send a message to someone. Who though?
Did everyone catch the fact that Channel 2 didn't waste an opportunity to run this piece of tape over their "huge" story Thursday night? Media jackals tearing at a the bleeding reputation of the Department.
Did everyone catch the fact that Channel 2 didn't waste an opportunity to run this piece of tape over their "huge" story Thursday night? Media jackals tearing at a the bleeding reputation of the Department.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
52 Comments:
Well it starts at the top and filters down. Supt. Phil Cline back in the day was out robbing, rolling and playing the streets like a pirate. He gets caught up and then becomes a Federal informant (RAT). 10 coppers go to prison while he gets to take the 5th on the stand about his criminal activities. Daley didn't fire him fast enough, just wait boys and girls till when the show really begins.
The CPD and the States Attorneys Office are trying their damndest to squash the ongoing SOS Scandal. 12 charged, 9 (RATS) given immunity to testify against their coworkers and 34 more department members being actively investigated. Going to be a long horrible ride when it gets underway.
Has anyone given any consideration as to why Cline's General Counsel Sheri Mecklenburg bailed out and went to the US Attorneys Office?
What is the story with SCC and the CPD maintaining absolute silence on the murdered PO?
burbcopschicago has a post up on the inequity of the CPD disciplinary system. Maybe we can make this a contract issue?
Abbate fucked up and deserves to get charged with simple battery. This is complete BS to use him and make him a scapegoat for all the corruption on the job.
Obviously they are going to hang him. Once again goes to show you the inequity of the disciplinary system on the CPD. If you kill someone lie and lie about it, get caught on videotape lying they promote you twice.
Anyone with a brain will do only the bare minimum in these dark days.
Speaking of embarassing police videos there is another one out there. Look into the TBK incident at Harlem/Higgins involving a battery and some drunk off-duty PO's.
REMEMBER NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE YOU ARE MOST PROBABLY ON VIDEOTAPE, ALWAYS CONDUCT YOURSELF AS IF YOU WERE ON TAPE!!!!!
Cline=MR CLEAN
Don't think so:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=603761
SCC,
How about a post on salaries? Time for FOP and PBPA to do something, we are being seriosuly shortchanged on our salaries,benefits and soon to be pensions. WAKEUP PEOPLE
8 LAPD officers cash in with overtime
They each earned more than $200,000 last year because of a staffing shortage, a city report finds.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-overtime31mar31,1,4819872.story?coll=la-headlines-california
Boston Police take home city's biggest paychecks
Detail work, overtime put 25 over $200,000
1,276 employees, about 41 percent of the force, made $100,000 or more.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/02/22/police_take_home_citys_biggest_paychecks/
Nassau County: Highest Paid Cops in the Nation?
“According to a Newsday study of Nassau police pay, the average compensation paid to nearly 2,800 officers last year reached $101,935.79,” says Newsday Online Wednesday, July 24, 2002-This article is five years old, the 2007 figures are below:
SALARY
2007 starting base salary for a Police Officer is $57,811. With five (5) years of service, the base salary is $97,958*. These figures do not include paid benefits.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/new/recruitment.htm
Unreal, now Fr. Andrew Greely is blaming the CPD and the NRA for the possibility of losing the Olympics. He essentially blames Supt Phil Cline for rogue officer misdeeds by implying that new leadership will fix the problem.
A nice way to interject a quick shot at the NRA, "The Guardians of Our Civil Rights & 2nd Amendment" by blaming an inanimate object for society's problems. Fr. Greely must never have read University of Chicago Professor John Lott's book, More Guns Less Crime.
The funny thing about Fr. Greely is that all that intellectualism at the University of Chicago think tank has deluded the good Padre's brain.
How Chicago can lose its bid for the 2016 Olympics
April 27, 2007
ANDREW GREELEY agreel@aol.com
"With advent of new leadership, one hopes that the few rogue cops in the Police Department will be brought under proper control. Any more misbehavior, and the Olympics will be in grave jeopardy."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/greeley/360447,CST-EDT-GREEL27.article
Beating a Dead Horse
Does this surprise anyone? Look at the top Supt. Phil Cline wanted to beat officer Anthony Abbate with a baseball bat for beating up the little bartender. Tell me that isn't institutionalized violence.
Great answer Cline answer violence with more violence.
As a civilian who has many police friends and really loves cops I think that if they paid you guys more there would be less stress, less divorce, less drinking and more happy officers.
Working three jobs to make ends meet and dealing daily with society's filth and pychopaths is enough to make anyone snap.
Is there anyway we can tie Tony to the killing of 6 million "chosen people" that Hitler took the heat on?
I mean, their throwing everything else on him..........
Maybe T.A. can enlist in the Army to make this all go away, like daley's son was allowed to do!!
cline couldn't beat his me$t, much less beat up Abbate with a bat. A former Chief of Detectives described cline as, "10 lbs of sh$t in a five lb bag".
DO YOU THINK SPAGNOLLA IS BEING OVERLY DRAMATIC AND REALLY REACHING FOR A LIFESAVER????? EXCERPTS FROM SUN TIMES ARTICLE BELOW:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/361132,car042707.article
Cops rescue man from burning car
Harrison District Sgt. Michael Spagnola joined by Harrison District officers John Dulcason and Oscar Serrano suffered "minor cuts from the glass and some inhaling of smoke" from the burning car, Spagnola said, "but we're all alright."
As they were working to take the man out of the car, "flames started coming out from the windshield, under the dashboard," Spagnola said. "Luckily we were able to get him out before the whole car started to burn."
Spagnola estimated they got the man out of the car with perhaps only seconds to spare. The sergeant believes that if the man had been in the car much longer, he would have been burned to death.
all the news is nothing but lies and distorsions! Why can't we sue the media? maybe because cpds own fish lips monique bond is in bed with the press? 15 count indictment! Nice! what's next death peanalty? How about a multiple count indictment for daley-reyes-degnan-joyce-stroger-blago-all the alderthieves-devine and all the others they have been criminals for many years ripping off and stealing from everyone!!
Yup... go out there and lock up more poeple. If we would just stick together and stop making arrests. Only answer our calls and make lots of paper.
But noooooooo we have to make tac and be cool for da chicks. We have no unity or teamwork. The FOP is beyond useless. Makes me sick and ashamed to say I am CPD. Yea I know, why dont I quit then right. Why dont you get your head straight.
Cline was a rat with his tail between his legs back in the day, most of 35th st is a joke, remember cameras are everywhere. If you have a good partner keep it tight because you are lucky. I've had the same partner for 14 years. I'm lucky. You can go out there and tear it up with the right partner who's on the same page. If it's not fun,then it's just another job. There are alot of rats on this job so you have to keep it clean, at least for the sake of your FAMILIES. The ones you go home to after your tour are the ones that take the REAL whack when you fuck up. You take your loved ones with you when you go down, not to mention your partner. Stay safe and keep it legit because it's not worth it. Do your 25-30 or whatever and retire comfortably without having to look over your shoulder. A few bad apples make us all look bad because it sells newspapers and makes the haters watch the news. Just remember stay safe, back each other up and make it fun enough to laugh.
Anonymous said...
What is the story with SCC and the CPD maintaining absolute silence on the murdered PO?
4/27/2007 12:47:00 AM
Don't know.....but,its leading to some pretty horrible rumors at the district level.Does anyone believe that two mutts were brought in,known to have done it,and let go without charging??
Hey, get a clue, Abbate deserves what ever they throw at him and more. They guy is a coward and a low life. Sounds like some people just think the guy is getting screwed over. He should, over and over and over.
Not special anymore are you Tony?
Yes, she knew Cline was retiring, as everyone else knew as well, long before all the bs started, she was offered the job and took it.
April 27, 2007
ANDREW GREELEY agreel@aol.com
"With advent of new leadership, one hopes that the few rogue cops in the Police Department will be brought under proper control. Any more misbehavior, and the Olympics will be in grave jeopardy."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/greeley/360447,CST-EDT-GREEL27.article
What do you expect from him, he is a bleeding heart liberal. Who cares if we lose the Olympics, it will be more of a headache than it's worth. By the way, when are we going to push to ban knifes? they have been resposible for over 40% of all homicides in the city, I mean come on we all know it's the knifes fault, not the user....
Cline a federal informer? Haha, yeah, right. Get a life loser, your oft repeated lies about Cline on here are getting a lil old.
Sitll mad becaue he wouldn't make u by merit? Awww, poor baby.
Lets put the HINDENBERG on him too!
If I were tony, I would much rather be beaten with a baseball bat.
Question, don't you need to be acting in your official capacity ( as a police officer) to be charged with official misconduct?
Why not charge him with a count of aggravated battery for each punch he threw?
15 criminal charges, and the victim was uninjured...
And with all this crap going on you wonder why I don't carry badge or gun off-duty. No police T-shirts, ballcaps or FOP stickers for me. I just get paid for 8 hrs. a day. On off-time I'm just a regular joe.
I don't know Abbate, but unfortunately for him, he is going to get screwed big time, because he has became the poster boy for our latest round of scandals. One question that I have had about this incident, and granted all I know is what I read here, see in the media, or hear from fellow coppers, is if there were friends of his in the bar, and other off duty coppers that knew him, why didn't someone do the right thing and try to stop him? Maybe if someone there who knew him had interceeded and tried to talk to him all of this could have been avoided. I know, I have been in situations like this where I was the agressor, and other times the peace maker. This guy was not well served by his friends and or fellow coppers.
Truth be told! What you say about Cline is correct. He has always been a thief criminal. Feds take this dept down.
Has anyone given any consideration as to why Cline's General Counsel Sheri Mecklenburg bailed out and went to the US Attorneys Office?
4/27/2007 12:46:00 AM
Help cover-up wrong doing by the dept along with giving Daley and the CPD a heads up as too who it is making the calls giving information about the criminal activity and clout issues hiring pratice and so on
To 5:44 Thank You, your thoughts on that matter are appreciated. We need more civilians like you, the people who know what is going on behind the scenes of a PO's life with the bills and tuitions. Thanks again
Anonymous said...
As a civilian who has many police friends and really loves cops I think that if they paid you guys more there would be less stress, less divorce, less drinking and more happy officers.
Working three jobs to make ends meet and dealing daily with society's filth and pychopaths is enough to make anyone snap.
4/27/2007 05:44:00 AM
So if you're only making $50,000 or so a year then you can't make ends meet and "snapping" is justified?
Well, shit, we should wonder no further why the crime rate is what it is since the median household income in the city is about $40,000.
Three jobs, huh? Your friend should probably quit one of them instead of "snapping", don't you think? Must be SOMETHING about that horrible job that keeps 'em coming back, huh?
You enablers make me fucking sick. You're the same people that "understand" drug dealers.
Some cops DO their jobs. Some cops DON'T. And they are dragging down everyone else. Period.
At 4/27/2007 06:44:00 AM Anonymous said...
DO YOU THINK SPAGNOLLA IS BEING OVERLY DRAMATIC AND REALLY REACHING FOR A LIFESAVER?????
Oh put a sock in it! For ONCE the media airs a positive story about cops and you have to whine and make a deragatory remark and attack one of your own. Don't we have enough of everyone else attacking us? Stifle yourself.
back in the day, the CCSAO would almost never charge a police officer (unless it was the most egregious, unforgiveable kind of offense); now....seems like it's open season on cops....what's changed, and why?
The Reader recently had a re-hash of Det. Alvin WEEMS shooting a man in the head and only getting 30 days instead of separation thanks to Cline. It is also on You-Tube. Why isn't the media capatilizing on this like they are doing with Abbate? Is it because it was a black on black murder?
And with all this crap going on you wonder why I don't carry badge or gun off-duty. No police T-shirts, ballcaps or FOP stickers for me. I just get paid for 8 hrs. a day. On off-time I'm just a regular joe.
Amen!
"Anonymous said...
Abbate fucked up and deserves to get charged with simple battery. This is complete BS to use him and make him a scapegoat for all the corruption on the job."
Why you're absolutely right! Why should this decent and honorable man be persecuted for merely knocking down, beating and stomping a woman more than 100lbs lighter than him? I'm sure that like OJ Simpson's ex(and late) wife, she just wouldn't listen. Uday Hussein knew how to deal with women who wouldn't listen! Somewhere now he's smiling down (or up) at Tony Abbate...
And the very idea that the police
don't have the right to intimidate witnesses!!! Equal protection under the law? What kind of commie crap is THAT?
What's next? A ban on connecting suspects' genitals to field phones???
It seems like alot of guys forget that when you are sworn in, you are instant second class citizen. Your rights go out the window, and, like some of those easily recognized rising meritorious stars, their balls, if they ever had any. All of us know or should know the big one they get you on is Official Misconduct. If it's a fed beef, the big one is lying to the shitbird fbi. It's simple, keep it clean or hang it up before you take your family down with you. And please remember: CAMERAS CAMERAS CAMERAS EVERYWHERE!
To Regular Joe who doesnt carry off-duty: You are an idiot who doesnt deserve to be the police! You better not carry your id or star either, you coward! None of the law abiding citizens of Illinois can carry except us. We have a moral obligation to protect ourselves and our families from the stick-up guy or worse. Look at the Knoxville, Tn couple who were both raped, mutilated and killed after a car jacking. But that wont happen to you will it? You better find another job because we dont want your kind on this one, you left- wing coward. Shame on you!!!
Anonymous said...
As a civilian who has many police friends and really loves cops I think that if they paid you guys more there would be less stress, less divorce, less drinking and more happy officers.
Working three jobs to make ends meet and dealing daily with society's filth and pychopaths is enough to make anyone snap.
4/27/2007 05:44:00 AM
Thank you, somebody finally gets it. By chance could you fill out an application for Supt?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
What is the story with SCC and the CPD maintaining absolute silence on the murdered PO?
4/27/2007 12:47:00 AM
Don't know.....but,its leading to some pretty horrible rumors at the district level.Does anyone believe that two mutts were brought in,known to have done it,and let go without charging??
4/27/2007 09:23:00 AM
I agree, SCC how about a post about this? Dispell the rumors, give detailed updates. We rely on you to give us honest updates. We really need one about one of our own.
Speaking of embarassing police videos there is another one out there. Look into the TBK incident at Harlem/Higgins involving a battery and some drunk off-duty PO's.
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yeah ok, why isn't on you tube or the news?
To 01:32 PM, The minute you took the oath, you also pledged to keep you private life clean as well and not tarnish the badge you held. Failure to do that is grounds to be charged with official misconduct, it's a catch all for cops. So the next time that yuppie cuts you off in traffic and flips you the bird and yells he gonna kick you ass, remember the beating he deserves, and you'd most likely give to him could result in charges being filed against you, and being thrown into jail and being dismissed from the job, while the yuppie walks away from it with a smirk.
That poor fat fucken slob Abbate got everything thrown at him and even the kitchen sink. Fat, dumb, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
Leave the gun, badge and the police mindset at work when you go home. Stay away from those young drunken tavern idiots. Relax, have less stress. Watch those others blow gaskets over the stress of the job.
what's changed, and why?
4/27/2007 07:50:00 PM
You must truely be a moron or you live in a cave. Maybe if you watched TV or read a News Paper the past, oh say ten years or so, you would know.
I will give you a clue though, then you can do your own research. Cops do stupid things because they are stupid. Then they get caught. They are to dumb to figure out a way out or too cowardly to just resign and get a real job.
Today it seems all they hire are these pussy ass punks. You guys are so scared of getting robbed? How often does this happen in your neighborhood? Maybe going out getting blitzed after work each night makes you a target. What did you do before this job? Were you scared then too? I can't wait to hear when one of you fools shoot up some tavern. I hope they throw the book at you!
"Question, don't you need to be acting in your official capacity ( as a police officer) to be charged with official misconduct?"
4/27/2007 01:18:00 PM
The beating was unofficial, but threatening to bust someone on a bogus drug charge, that's misconduct.
Anonymous said...
The Reader recently had a re-hash of Det. Alvin WEEMS shooting a man in the head and only getting 30 days instead of separation thanks to Cline. It is also on You-Tube. Why isn't the media capatilizing on this like they are doing with Abbate? Is it because it was a black on black murder?
4/27/2007 08:04:00 PM
No it is because weems got promoted and has lots of major clout and can do whatever he wants even kill and get away with it!
'To 01:32 PM, The minute you took the oath, you also pledged to keep you private life clean as well and not tarnish the badge you held. Failure to do that is grounds to be charged with official misconduct, it's a catch all for cops. So the next time that yuppie cuts you off in traffic and flips you the bird and yells he gonna kick you ass, remember the beating he deserves, and you'd most likely give to him could result in charges being filed against you, and being thrown into jail and being dismissed from the job, while the yuppie walks away from it with a smirk.
ANON 4/28/2007 04:07:00 AM'
I agree with you, when you join the force your private and work life become one as you are at all times a Police Officer. This officer deserves the boot he is just a thug and tarnishes all his fellow officers with the same shitty stick.
When a Police Officer commits a crime he/she should be dealt with very firmly as we the Police uphold the law and are not above it.
Hey Regular Joe! I totally agree with you. I was 30 yrs old when started this job, didn't carry a gun, only need one now while working. You sound like a real man that knows how to conduct himself in public. Contray to some of these idiots, we don't live in Bagdad.
wait til the g gets the 2 asshole tac guys in 016 that have been targeting certain citizens on an almost daily basis. when they cannot find anything, they'll pick up certain people and put the usual charge on them. Video will prove otherwise. Better put you stuff in 'trust', boys.
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