Careful Please
Sometime Wednesday afternoon, an Admin Fax came out that stated officers shouldn't be riding on the backs of squadrols in any circumstances. We also saw a couple comments that referenced an incident that probably led to the fax being issued.
Hopefully, the officers involved recover fully. This could have been way worse than it was.
Hopefully, the officers involved recover fully. This could have been way worse than it was.
Labels: safety issues
79 Comments:
Why not ride the back the city treats us like garbage might as well reflect the same right!?
Is it "tru" the officers were working the CHA program on their day off???? If they fuck up this program for me they should be fired or at least disciplined....what does the city have to pay for these morons hospital bills??
Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM!
Well the garbage men can do it.....
the fault lies with the commander of 018, he has the the cops doing the old vertical patrol,did that twenty five years ago, someone calls for help, no car because the exempt took it away from you,then the po run four blocks or get a ride... i smell a law suit ... sue him ...
What did Darwin say...............?
That was just plain dumb by the officers involved.
Too much college and not enough high school.
I DO hope that they recover fully, but WTF, how dumb was that?
Take away the squadrols, with all the new cage cars you don't need them anymore. DOA's are now removed by a private service. Mentals can go by ambulance. If there is a shortage of cars we can use bicycles for beat patrol.
Is it "tru" the officers were working the CHA program on their day off???? If they fuck up this program for me they should be fired or at least disciplined....what does the city have to pay for these morons hospital bills??
Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM!
5/30/2007 11:39:00 PM
Your a real asshole. Two of our own were hurt trying to respond to a 10-1. I don't agree with them jumping on the back of a squadrol but atleast they were tryingto get over and help a fellow officer. So by saying they are do-nothings, you are an ass. I hope they both come out of this ok.
hey 11:39....they should be fired...hey fuck you...if they fucked this program up for me...you southside 2-yr fucking wonder...the commander fucked this up....if you had any fucking time on the job you would be working the airport...and by the way..i work the greens on my day off and always arrested someone.how many fucking arrest have you made while working (YOUR) job there...fuck you..from a cop that worked the greens althrough the 80's. and received 10-jobs a nite...so next time you say something...keep your foot out of your ass...and that was a stupid thing those guys did...
WOW 11:39 JUST BECAUSE YOUR TOO STUPID TO BID OUT OF 7 DOESNT MEAN THAT NORTHSIDE COPPERS DO NOT DO THEIR JOB, GOD FORBID TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS THAT OBEY THE LAW SHOULD GET POLICE SERVICE STOP WORRING ABOUT THE NORTHSIDE POLICE AND DRINK SOME GREEN TEA MAYBE THAT WILL CLEANSE YOUR BODY OF ALL THAT HATE
While the actions of that officer falling off the back of the squadrol was foolhardy at best, the underlying fact of the matter is why.....Why were they put in that position to begin with...The simple answer is they had no car to respond, because some jerkoff from downtown and the moronic Commander of the 018th District took them away because of the actions of 1 or 2 PO's caught sleeping on the midnights....But as usual, the powers to be cure for the headache, cut off the head instead of just disiplining the parties involved...
Why were they on the back of the wagon? Why didn't the driver just give them a ride inside to the 10-1?
You are all assholes. It was a 10-1 from because of the brain trust who decided CHA Special should be on foot in 2 man teams. The officer, though not too smart, was trying to do the right thing and get to the building to help out the officers getting jumped by the group of animals. She jumped on the back of a wagon instead of running the 3 blocks. The coppers driving didn't know and she got tossed and seriously injured. Keep badmouthing people you fucking do nothing jagoffs. What the fuck has this job become. A bunch of lazy do nothing cry babies who have nothing better to do than rip on people. Fuck all of you bitches!
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Anonymous said...
Is it "tru" the officers were working the CHA program on their day off???? If they fuck up this program for me they should be fired or at least disciplined....what does the city have to pay for these morons hospital bills??
Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM!
5/30/2007 11:39:00 PM
F#*& you , it was
the old f^&%s sleeping in
the cars that got them taken away in the first place.
Suppposedly they were responding to a call for assistance by another officer. They hopped on the back of the wagon but the driver had no idea they were back there.
It was only a matter of time before someone got hurt due to this insane policy.
As before, S. G. will not take a hit for something that happened under his command.
Hope the officers are going
to be OK.
Firefighters haven't been riding on the back steps of engines or trucks for over twenty years.
Something bad always happens whenever they take away the cars from CHA Special Employment and I have seen that since the Byrne administration.
What happened? I was rdo....as far as 018, those guys needed to have their cars taken away...they were NEVER on post, and there were some shootings while they were all eating or farting around. Special is volunteer, so how are you going to sue? You know the deal, then sign up. If you get there and don't want to work it, you leave. Wont be the first.
It's all about baby steps. Have the P.O. call their sponsor & get back on the wagon.
I hope the officers recover fully, but truth is they were downright stupid.
WORKED HOUSING THIS WEEK FOR 1ST TIME. NO CARS, HAVE TO EITHER WALK TO YOUR BUILDING OR GET RIDE IN PISS SMELLING VAN AND DROPPED OFF, ON FEET FOR 8 HOURS, WANT 8 WALKDOWNS, HAVE TO CALL SGT. TO DRIVE U TO LUNCH....1ST AND LAST TIME FOR ME......KEEP THE TIME AND 1/2...
Lack of judgement might be a better word. The "do nothing" coppers were attempting to return, quicker, to the scene of an earlier disturbance....to do something. Before we monday morning quarter back lets pray for a speedy recovery. And to the DOUCHE BAG who thinks they should be fired perhaps we should use your "micro scope" and disect your stellar fuck up free career.
First of all I hope the officers recover but from what I hear, it involves broken bones, bad bruises and maybe even a bad head injury...
Blame falls 1/2 on the dept for taking away the officers car and leaving them on foot in the jets, not able to respond as they should to a copper in distress 4 blocks away.
Other 1/2 blame is on the coppers. Are you crazy jumping onto the outside of the wagon with nothing to hold onto. Why not just open one of the two doors and sit inside for your short ride 4 blocks away to the call or 10-1.
I think they should give us the cars back at CHA. If the Officers had cars this accidnet would not have happened!
Also, it is a good time to dump that "idiot Commander" who ordered the cars away in the first place. What A Bonehead loser this Commander is!
i blogged about this 3 months ago stating "its a safety issue and we need to have the cars or vans at least or someone(s) going to get hurt". and some asshat replied "then dont work it its voluntary". to him or her i say "told ya so".to those that got hurt get well soon
my dad, a real older timer, told me that they used to actually hitch rides like that back in the day. of course i'm sure the driver knew they were on the back.
If they wanted to be garbage man, they should have signed up for that job.
Anonymous said...
the fault lies with the commander of 018, i smell a law suit ... sue him ...
5/31/2007 05:59:00 AM
I have to disagree with you on this. While I am no fan of the BS that this department does, and how it has become, I find it hard to blame it on this guy. From what I heard, he is a stroke, but even it that is true; he is not to blame for this.
This was just not the smart thing to do by the PO's. I think there is know other way to look at this. You can say a whole lot of "what if" but bottom line, IMO, this was dumb.
First, let's hope that they both recover. Dumb or not, they did get injured. Just as your auto insurance/home insurance has to cover stupidity - so too does the department. If you leave the keys in the car and the car open and running, then it is stolen – you still get covered.
Second, let us hope that this does not affect those of you that work special, if this was the case with these two PO's. It would be a blow to the many PO’s who work this gig that need the money to pay for tuition, home payments, and use it for their going out money.
Finally, let us hope that nobody else gets hurt doing something so dumb like this again.
I also hope that there is no litigation that comes from this. I think that is a huge problem in society right now, and something deserving of its own thread. Too many people are looking for the quick buck and fail to place the blame on where it belongs – with themselves.
This was not the mistake or fault of anybody but the two PO’s that did it.
The fact remains the PO was just trying to do her job, responsing to a job,(I understand it was in progress) she had no car because the commander of 18 took away all the vehicles for CHA. Granted the PO wasnt too smart but if the vehicles stayed none of this would have ever happened. Hope the PO is ok.
Hey Georges the saying goes if something's not broke why try to fix it!! Crime in the Greens are down since the special emp. Why mess with it and take the cars away?
"Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM! "
-Go fuck yourself, No do-nothings on the southside?? HAHAHAHA!!!
-Stroke
"Too much college and not enough high school"
-I'm sure the college education had everything to do with it. What's with the hating for obtaining a college education?? You do know the Dep't will pay for it right? Instead you would rather sit around and bitch about how all the "2 year wonders" are ruining the job and that it ain't what it used to be. Get a life!
What is the full story?
Hey Georges the saying goes if something's not broke why try to fix it!! Crime in the Greens are down since the special emp. Why mess with it and take the cars away?
5/31/2007 06:28:00 PM
Hope the PO's make a speedy recovery and I'm sorry to be the black sheep here but what they did was just plain dumb. Open the door and pile inside, it's that simple. And as far as the crime being down in the Greens, that's because the majority of the buildings are either gone, vacant or half vacant not because of special employment.
-Former CHA copper, current CPD copper
TO: 5/31/2007 05:59:00 AM
Blame lays only with the officers that did this stupid stunt. I've said it numerous times - if you don't want to make 50-60 an hour - don't work it. It is very simple. I also believe cars should be used, but they aren't so I made a decision NOT to work it. These are FOOT posts....that means you stay there. Take a look at the back of a wagon - there is nowhere to hold on. What were they thinking? But don't bounce the blame for this stupid decision up - keep it where it belongs - with the officers.
TO: 5/31/2007 08:25:00 AM
If you are going to comment - get the facts first - it was not a 10-1!! There were special employment CARS assigned to the area already. I am sorry they are injured, but common sense goes a long way!!
TO: 5/31/2007 08:55:00 AM
It wasn't one or two officers sleeping. It was the majority of the officers. I used to work it and saw it with my own eyes. Once again we ruined it for ourselves.
Off the topic here, but is there a reason so many people on here have such a hard time expressing themselves without using the "F" word and calling names. Grow up!!
The injured officers wanted to respond to a 10-1 in the row houses. Georgas took away the squad cars. His reputation is growing as the biggest jagoff D/C in the city.
Just another bungling idiot that's heavier than whale shit.
wE NEED SMALLER TRANSPORT VANS
Commander Georgas NEEDS to be demoted and dumped!
The guy is a moron for a leader, I for a fact would NEVER follow this goof!
He was NEVER the Police and will NEVER be the police!
Just another over educated asshole book worm with NO common sense!
Hey Ivory Tower, are listening to the real police out here in the streets!
Is it "tru" the officers were working the CHA program on their day off???? If they fuck up this program for me they should be fired or at least disciplined....what does the city have to pay for these morons hospital bills??
Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM!
HEY ASSHOLE THEY WENT TO A 10 1 NO CAR THANKS TO 018 COMMANDER BEFORE YOU SHOOT OF YOUR MOUTH KNOW THE FACTS////HEY FUCK YOU
"Crime in the Greens are down since the special emp."
WRONG. Crime in the Green is down because the green is down. STUPID
Off the topic here, but is there a reason so many people on here have such a hard time expressing themselves without using the "F" word and calling names. Grow up!!
5/31/2007 07:44:00 PM
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If the "fuck" word offends you, why are you here? Its a very good way to explain how we feel about the day to day bullshit that happens. So there!!!
Well a 2 yr wonder will now be able to get some special...and I dont know about you but who do you think a supervisor would want to work the jets...a seasoned officer with some common sense ..or a young officer full of piss and vinegar. With everyone sue happy these days.....I do believe the city will be paying out more money.
Any inside info about the cop from 14 that had a warrant? Heard it might be another beating case inside another bar.
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Anonymous said...
TO: 5/31/2007 08:55:00 AM
It wasn't one or two officers sleeping. It was the majority of the officers. I used to work it and saw it with my own eyes. Once again we ruined it for ourselves.
Off the topic here, but is there a reason so many people on here have such a hard time expressing themselves without using the "F" word and calling names. Grow up!!
5/31/2007 07:44:00 PM
F word you!
Is this Georgas the same wacko micromanager that spends long hours at home watching the video from district pods?
If the "fuck" word offends you, why are you here? Its a very good way to explain how we feel about the day to day bullshit that happens. So there!!!
5/31/2007 09:42:00 PM
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Where in the description of this blog does it say, come here for profanity? People come here for a discussion of department related incidents and policies.
There are many ways to express how you feel without using profanity and attacking each other because they have a different opinion. This is for the most part an open forum and sadly people seem to thrive on name calling and saying things about others that they wouldnt say in person. Profanity and name calling does not add strength to your opinion. It de-values it because it shows a lack of maturity and profesionalism.
It should be us (police) against them (the bad guys). Too much effort is wasted on in-fighting and dividing us further by race, geography, unit, district, watch, etc. Sometimes people get hurt or killed on this job doing some pretty questionable things, but as long as their heart was in the right place they deserve support. I think we would all be alot better off if we all tried to respect each other a little more.
If you think the vans were taken away for a couple of people falling asleep in the cars, your wrong. How about entire shifts being off their posts? Shootings going on and the car assigned to the building coming up and asking for lunch 2 miles away. I'm not a huge fan of the commander, but I don't have a problem with this. Want the sure fire way to get off your post for an hour or two? LOCK SOMEONE UP.
Don't blame 018 district commander. This was a bad judgment call on P.O.'s part. Great intentions... poor execution. Have a good recovery to those injured but stop the blame game.
Hate to be the Monday morning quarterback here, but....jumping on the back of a squadrol was just poor judgement. Period.
No more squads for special? Don't blame 1800. Anyone who has worked special should know the truth...WE
messed that up. Plain and simple. If WE were doing OUR jobs properly, there would be cars, so quit complaining! We've been given new marching orders for time and a half...it's either worth it, or NOT. The Dept. is tired of paying out big bucks AND having to beg the guys and gals to do the job right. Sgts. today don't really want to supervise. If they had been doing their jobs, the officers would have been where they were supposed to, and the pulling of the squads would never have happened. Just call it the Domino effect of laziness. And Georges? It's true he has about as much personal warmth and personality as a piece of paper, and one can only wonder how in the hell Cline came to pick him, but he's THERE (he reminds me of another previous cmdr of 018, Griffin; remember he was an impersonal bastard also? He didn't last long before he packed it in!). No one remains as the Cmdr. of 018 long, although I don't see someone with such an extreme lack of personality having that much upper movement through the CPD, if that's any consolation to anyone assigned to 018.
Why are some of you blaming the Cmndr? He didn't tell those Officers to jump on the back of the truck. And whats the big deal about no cars? You can't drive a car to the 10th floor of a project building can you? And isn't that where your supposed to be, inside the building? I think the blame is with those coppers that signed up and expected to just ride around all day without doing anything. I remember one time (actually more than one time) when I got into the car while working Special Employment in the Green and my partner who insisted on driving, then proceeded to drive around the perimeter of the jets never even entertaining the idea of actually driving into the complex or walking into a building. Had I then not insisted on driving for the remainder of the tour we probably would have never entered a building once during those tours. And that seemed to be par for the course. Not always, but more often than not.
Anonymous said...
Well a 2 yr wonder will now be able to get some special...and I dont know about you but who do you think a supervisor would want to work the jets...a seasoned officer with some common sense ..or a young officer full of piss and vinegar. With everyone sue happy these days.....I do believe the city will be paying out more money.
5/31/2007 09:47:00 PM
Yep a 2 year wonder will! I am through with cha and am a member of the KMA club if anyone is stupid enough to work without vehicles you have a wish to get hurt!
Anonymous said...
Is it "tru" the officers were working the CHA program on their day off???? If they fuck up this program for me they should be fired or at least disciplined....what does the city have to pay for these morons hospital bills??
Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM!
5/30/2007 11:39:00 PM
Your a jealous little bitch right? guess you wnat to talk shit as your most likely a college degreed dope who spent all of daddies and mommies money with no career direction right! don't be jealous when all your college idiot friends are out at their " beer busts" you have to work! FUCK YOU JAGOFF!
Blame this one on the C/O who took away the cars. To take available cars away is the equivilent of taking people off the street. If there is a problem with poeple sleeping, being off post, etc. then it is up to the Sgt.s and Lt.s to solve that problem, or an inspector to write them up. If an officer gets a little heavy handed with a prisoner or an arrestee do you take away his baton or asp? No, because that would reduce his effectiveness on the street and put his fellow officers at risk. It is the same case with the cars. They are needed to do the job safely and effectively, and taking them away puts other officers at risk. Of course none of this common sense means anything to the current boss in down there. This is coming from a guy who has never worked a hard day in his life and has been taken care of by Mauer and the old boys his entire career. He can't relate to a guy with four kids in private who needs one or two days of special to make ends meet, he has never had to hustle a little as a P.O.
I wish I had kissed ass a little earlier in my career and been one of the drinking buddies in the old boys club. Maybe some test answers would have come my way. Oh well, I will continue to stand in the stairwells while the Peter Principle continues to hold true. Maybe the next C/O will give us the cars back, but if the trend holds true, that will be the current C/O of the Marine Unit so not much will change, same guy different name.
Got your challenge coin Georgie Boy?
Cline will be dispatching a few tanker trucks of Prozac-laced Kool-Aid to the troops in 018 this morning.
Hands down, best recent punch line on SCC goes to 9:31 PM:
"WRONG. Crime in the Green is down because the Green is down. STUPID."
Will the new million dollar townhouses retain such infamous bloody addresses as 1150/60 Sedgwick, 1117/19 Cleveland and 500/502 W. Oak?
"Units in 018 and City-Wide, we've got a half caf, half decaf venti cafe latte with 2% milk in progress at Starbucks, Clybourn and Division. Hold the whipped cream. This is Zone 4 radio"
Georgas makes Griffin come across as Jay Leno.
Maybe the just released Dr. Kevorkian can help in 018. Give him a call, Steve.
No one remains as the Cmdr. of 018 long,
HEY NEW GUY, Ever hear of Ettore DiVito??
If it was indeed a 10-1 why wasn't the wagon going there?
"Probably northside do-nothings that dont know what its like to work and now bring the program under a microscope....FUCK THEM! "
-Go fuck yourself, No do-nothings on the southside?? HAHAHAHA!!!
How about it, have you been to 003, 005, 006, or 022 lately? enough said.
Let's see now.......2 coppers jump on the back of a moving wagon to respond 5 blocks from their fixed foot post for what was nothing more than 2 project chicks fighting (NOT a 10-1).......and when they get injured, this is somehow the 018th district Commanders fault?????
Coppers never let the truth get in the way of a good piece of gossip
Please dont ever compare joe griifin to this clown! Ever! He may have been a bit impersonal he had stones and always backed up his troops!!!! Do you wonder why one of the greatest w.c.s (T.S 1st watch) got the hell out of there!!! Kudos to Lt. KA at least ur from the same mold as tommy!!
They did what they thought was right! It may have been ill advised but we weren't there. They made a decision to put they're lives on the line in order to protect some one else. If I here a 10-1 Im going balls out to get there because I know when it happens to me, and it has and will again im sure, I know other coppers are gonna do the same. Fuck everyone who who has anything negative to say about the coppers who were hurt. OH by the way 5/30/2007 11:39:00 PM You must be the biggest asshole on the job Blame TRU for everything they fucked up the entire dept You're a total pussy who got picked on your entire life and took this job to get some payback you're not the police. Pussy!.
Steve Georgas has the most charismatic, scintillating personality goin' on. Those smoldering bedroom eyes and that big smile make me all moist and tingly inside.
If only he could grow a pair, he'd be smokin' HOT! I'd even let him do me Greek style. Word has it on Larrabee Street, that's his favorite.
To 5/31/2007 0:7:55A.M.
Take away the Squadrols? When was the last time you were on the street? Have you ever fought with a combative mental? Have you ever had a prisoner kick out a cage car window and try to excape? I have. Every district should have at least one wagon working on all three watches. Unfortunately with manpower being what it is, we very seldom have a squadrol up and available. Maybe they don't do much, but when you need them, sometimes you really need them, and they are great to have.
hey asshole,
i know do-nothings on the south-side and on the north-side.
sounds like you dont have too much time on this job to even make a comment. why dont you dont go back upstairs, get your laundry from your mommy and sign off the computer, your getting the keyboard sticky numbnut.
Hay 018 DISTRICT
You guys and gals can have our D/C from 012 DISTRICT.
We'll trade yeah (1) coward,backstabbin prick,political hack
for (1) mastermind,never-been da police,political hack.
ps. this trade has one condition we get ta make more fun of our new commander than you all did !!!
in regards to 014th copper w/warrant bogus crazy ex/wife who just wants to fuck him he'll be ok
You idiots are blaming the officers. It was a mistake, but we all make them. You are no better than the media, how about the fact the animals in that shithole Cabrini once again attacked the police. I say give them an apartment complex in Plainfield and give each a plasma t.v. All problems will be solved.
-Future Supt.
When a northside FOP Unit Rep tried to talk to the 018 District Commander with a legitimate saftety issue to try to suggest a minor realignment of personnel that would make backup closer in a pinch the 018 D/C would not even talk to the rep, he responded through a flunky in the office.
The flunky relayed the commander's response: "The CHA Special Employment is a VOLUNTARY program. PO's don't have to work it if they don't like the conditions."
While strictly speaking this is true it shows a remarkable lack of concern for officer safety by this 37 year old wonder boy.
GUIDE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY.
I agree totally with a previous post: Start locking people up and get in the station for half the shift. Preferably, lock someone up 20 minutes before checkoff so you can get another hour or two of overtime.
Think like an old timer just a bit, those guys knew a thng or two. Arrests equals time out of the buildings plus overtime plus court time.
Ya know, everyone is playing the blame game as to how the coppers screwed it up for themselves by being off post, 2 miles away on lunch, sleeping, etc. BUT Does this program have NO supervisors assigned to it?
Is it not the sergeants job to ensure we are doing the right thing? Where are/were they? Typical CPD, PO's will screw it up but there is never a supervisor around who will take any blame for not overseeing his troops.
Hope the PO's are OK !
Sounds like a bad ride from Great America...get well soon.
Where in the description of this blog does it say, come here for profanity? People come here for a discussion of department related incidents and policies.
There are many ways to express how you feel without using profanity and attacking each other because they have a different opinion. This is for the most part an open forum and sadly people seem to thrive on name calling and saying things about others that they wouldnt say in person. Profanity and name calling does not add strength to your opinion. It de-values it because it shows a lack of maturity and profesionalism.
It should be us (police) against them (the bad guys). Too much effort is wasted on in-fighting and dividing us further by race, geography, unit, district, watch, etc. Sometimes people get hurt or killed on this job doing some pretty questionable things, but as long as their heart was in the right place they deserve support. I think we would all be alot better off if we all tried to respect each other a little more.
6/01/2007 01:08:00 AM
F U.
Ettore DiVito doesn't count. He just didn't want to retire, and was eventually shoved out the door.
Holding out for something else, and he was all but forgotten there.
Sad.
Do you really think crime is down in the Greens because of Special Employment?? Maybe it has to do with knocking them down and yuppies moving in the hood.
"Any inside info about the cop from 14 that had a warrant? Heard it might be another beating case inside another bar."
I believe it was a PPO who got into a domestic and she got an order of protection and a warrant against him.
Worked the Greens the other day...the yuppies around the hood are not very happy. The visability of the squad cars around CHA gave them a sense of security. They're wondering what fool took them away. Being a urban pioneer was ok when the police was around...now they're not to sure.
I hope the PO's are okay but this is a definite case of stupidity defined by the "Blind Leading the Blind"
The copper from 014 who was arrested for the warrant was a douchebag in the academy who would tell his classmates that he was the star point guard for the 2000 Michigan State Spartans. I don't think he knew that they won the national championship that year. They guy cheated on his wife every chance he got. Don't ever believe a word he ever says.
Is it true that all the creatures that lived in the jets are now relocated 12 stories under ground now.
They are really pissed they cannot throw bricks down at the police.
That's the same asswipe who doesn't know anything about boats ,diving,helicopters, police work, or morale! He does know back-stabbing, sucking up,deflecting questions,and taking care of his little sweet secretary!
We should put blame on the bosses who decided to take the cars away and put fellow officers at risk. These officers were responding to a 10-1 it is unfortunate that this happened and I hope they recover. To the boss who decided to take cars away deal with the 1 or 2 officers that are the problem dont punish everyone because shit like this should have never have happened.
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