Hmmm
- Would you approve a wage reduction of 1-5 percent in exchange for living outside of the City of Chicago, but within Cook County?
At last count, the numbers were running 38% yes and 62% no (42 to 69).
The survey is completely open to anyone who stumbles across the Lieutenant site and therefore is immediately suspect. We voted in it twice, once for each side. But it does raise an interesting question:
The survey is completely open to anyone who stumbles across the Lieutenant site and therefore is immediately suspect. We voted in it twice, once for each side. But it does raise an interesting question:
- Is the Lieutenant's Association seriously looking into making residency and issue?
- Who else is going to?
Discuss.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
117 Comments:
Why should we pay for something that should be our right?
If we move out of Chicago we would loose our right to vote, and Daley would screw us even more.
If we pay for that right what else would he make us pay for?
It’s a bad president, like the $2 per paycheck for medical care. If it’s 1-2% now, how much later?
If they ared lieutenants, chances are they already have a house.
It's us new chumps that cant afford to live here.
There I am with the wife at the Jewel grocery store on Archer and Mayfield. As Im exiting the store with the better half Im pushing the cart and following a nice blue haired lady. What do I see a Nice new Jeep, sporting a checkerboard over the rear view mirror driven by a young mexican man, and lets not forget the FOP sticker and medallion.
The blue hair asks the man to move to which he replies "No Im waiting for my wife" Blue hair says if you dont move im gonna hit your car with my cart. Now the M/4 says from inside his car "Im the Police, and I will have you arrested". To which the blue hair responds (this is where it gets funny) "Your a FUCKIN Jag-off" then the blue hair pushes her cart swiping the Jeep! As this is happening I hear a loud voice say "Not all COPS are ASS-HOLES but this one is".
Lets recap recent events in which coppers are getting drunk and beating up Polish bartenders, coppers are getting drunk and beating up "business men" and either right or wrong stomping the shit outta gang banger high school student. We as the police have a public perception problem. Its bad enough we are making the news everytime we turn on the tube, but now some asshole appearently sober is gonna identify himself as the police while breaking the law by blocking a handicap exit at a grocery store? And wont move his vehicle forward about 10 feet? Thanks for making one more police hater when we need all the support we can get.
Officer ?Mexican? do us all a favor go shop in Summit, take the hat band off the mirror only goofs/asshats/PPOs do that. Dont Identify yourself off-duty only goofs/asshats/PPOs do that. How would you like if somebody talked to your mother like that? If your mother saw you acting like that she would be disappointed and think your a goof/asshat. So bottom line here....people like you make a bad name for all of us, and let me add as a witness to the event you are an ASSHOLE and a FUCKING JAG-OFF, and yes if you would have acted out your threat I along with several others would have been witnesses for the prosecution! Why? Because you were or should I say are a JAG-OFF!
Oh, please god!!! Take my 5 percent...Ill save that on tuition for the kids alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make it 7 percent. Whatever. Just get me the hell out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its real easy to satisfy both sides. If you want to live outside the city, the percentage is deducted from your annual salary. Only those who choose to leave are out the cash. SIGN ME UP!!
I wouldn't take a pay cut, maybe take less in the percentages we get with each new contract (Not that they are anything spectacular anyhow). We still get steady raises but not as much as we would with the residency clause/statute. And remember, this is state statute that would have to be amended, re-written or otherwise repealed. I believe the statute reads for municipalites over 1 million (i.e. Chicago) for those that work for said municipalities must reside within the the city proper. Please correct the verbage, those that know it or have it, I don't feel like looking it up right now.
This is a very good topic and we must have state reps and senators on our side. Start writing letters to them now, even though the elections have passed. If we go in united po's, sgt's, lt's and even the damn firemen we have a stronger voice. But people must get over their respective ego's to accomplish this daunting task. I myself am staying in the city even if they allow us to move out, but we should have the option and not be tied down to King Richie's Feifdom.
Please chime in on this topic, for once this is a topic that almost all of us actually agree on.
No I would not,out of the city and out of the county or nothing.
Forget about it. The city will make you stay. If you don't like it quit and go work in Joliet.
no reduction but i would give up contract raise fom the next contract
No. It's not good enough. I want to live as far away from Chicago and Crook County as humanly possible. As a matter of fact, I'd move out of State if I could. I don't want one dollar of mine going to support this cesspool of filth,nepotisim and corruption. If I could, I'd even take steps to ensure that any money that I pay to the Federal government in taxes does not return to this State in the form of revenue sharing. So my answer to you is no. I won't give the City any money in the form of a pay reduction. Hope that helps.
Shouldn't be a wage reduction...maybe a wage freeze. I wouldn't leave the city but would take a hit for those that do. Along with that freeze there should be no increase in healthcare and allow our FSA's to include childcare.
LEGEND HAS IT:
That about 20 years ago, there was an OCD guy(when narcs worked straight days,SS off), who lived in rural Tennesee; he would drive to work from home for Monday morning, work the week, showering at the station,then drive back Friday evening. He did this for years until he retired.
THE IDEAS LEGIT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TO GIVE UP THE PAY ONCE. MARKET CONDITIONS WOULD MAKE THE CITY EVENTUALLY INCREASE THE PAY SCALE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
P.O'S WOULD SAVE ON INSURANCE, SCHOOLS, CITY STICKER AND HOME PRICES.
I'm just curious. Do you all not like the City of Chicago (as a city) or do you just dislike the high cost of living in the city?
Better check out what the taxes are in some of those suburbs you're dying to move into...A small home could easily be taxed at over $10,000 a year in many of them. I don't see the savings. It already takes me an hour to and from work everyday, and I live in the City.
Though I personally wouldn't leave the city, we should have the option to live where we want. But if the option is to give back money to get residency repealed, I say no.
in reply to that event! i agree with what you have stated, but why does he have to be mexican and shop in summit? why can he be a young police officer!
The state statute reads that the issue of residency is not bargainable as part of a contract, which means that if the city does not want to address the issue, there is no way the union can force them to in negociating a contract. However, the city can voluntarily reach a deal with the union if they choose to do so reagrding the issue. The union cannot force the city to even consider the issue, it is the city's option.
This is quite interesting and a good topic to debate. I have one question for everyone. Have you ever lived in the burbs before? I have and can tell you that they are far beyond any corruption going on in Chicago.
Chicago is watched 24/7 by the feds. The king makes headlines every time he takes a shit. He has to make back room deals for everything. Remember who he has to deal with. Going to the burbs especailly if it isn't in Cook Cty do not have to cave to 50 special interests every time he wants to shovel the snow. Those who aern't being watched just do what they want.
I'm sure most of us know a few suburban coppers. I know my fair share of them. They all will tell you flat out that there is no such thing as a promotion in the burbs without getting on your knees and sucking and fucking the whole city council. No matter what anybody thinks you can have your lucky test day on CPD with our promotional process. I scored in the top 300 on both the last dick and sgt test. I don't know anybody and won't get on my knees except to pray at church. It can happen. I won't happen in the burbs. I know we could have the best of both worlds working on CPD and living in the burbs.
The only reason to move to the burbs has already been mentioned. That is the school system. Public schools in the burbs can be attended. That for the vast majority is not the case in the city. What we should be fighting for has already been done in alot of cases. Stop having shithead kids not from your area bused into your local school. It can happen. I've seen Taft being cleaned up after the take back Taft campaign. We need to make Chicago's public school system like the Burbs. Where you live determines your HS and grade school. Nobody from outside that boundry can attend for any reason. If only your neighbors kids could attend your school it would be a whole lot better. If somebody says some of my neighbors are shitheads, wake up. The burbs have plenty of their own shitheads.
How about a Link card. I see all kinds of people at the store with those cards buying better food than me. They open their wallet stuffed with cash of course, and use that card. Then walk out to their fancy ghetto ride in the handicap spot. Only in America!
When I pull the plug, I'm outta here in a heartbeat. But I'm NOT PAYING Little Richard so I can live outside his kingdom. Frankly there'd be NO ONE living in the 016 and 017 if they let us move. Why stay and pay these outrageous property taxes AND private school tuition (because you know you can't send your kids to the schools YOUR TAXES pay for...)
No. It's not good enough. I want to live as far away from Chicago and Crook County as humanly possible. As a matter of fact, I'd move out of State if I could. I don't want one dollar of mine going to support this cesspool of filth,nepotisim and corruption. If I could, I'd even take steps to ensure that any money that I pay to the Federal government in taxes does not return to this State in the form of revenue sharing. So my answer to you is no. I won't give the City any money in the form of a pay reduction. Hope that helps.
5/28/2007 07:52:00 AM
Then why are you still working for this city...There are plenty of other departments in other cities hiring, go work for them.
Is the Lieutenant's Association seriously looking into making residency and issue?
Who else is going to?
The FOP won't that's who.
Anonymous said...
Oh, please god!!! Take my 5 percent...Ill save that on tuition for the kids alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make it 7 percent. Whatever. Just get me the hell out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/28/2007 02:14:00 AM
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shouldn't be a wage reduction...maybe a wage freeze. I wouldn't leave the city but would take a hit for those that do. Along with that freeze there should be no increase in healthcare and allow our FSA's to include childcare.
Please be joking, if not fuck you die in a fire.
Did anyone see the footage of the search for the home invasion suspect in Burr Ridge? They were searching for the offender with the proper equiptment. SEMI-AUTO RIFLES! The offenders supposedly had them, so the officers responded in kind. HEAR THAT DALEY? We are severly outgunned in this city! Get us better weaponry and equiptment that works more than 1/2 the time! You slimy, droopy jawled, corruption laced jackass!
i got an idea-since we all know the city will not lift the residency......any cpd or cfd officer who sends his/her kid(s) to a catholic grammar or high school gets a tax break. look at your property tax bills and see how much goes to the chgo public school system. as we all know damn near every cps high school is shit and full of gangbangers. now we are forced to pay for public and private education. HELLO FOP SPEAK UP DURING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS!!!!!!!!
anyone who is a lt. probably allready has a house and roots in the hood.
i bet a servey of patrolmen would come out different.
and finally, most of cook co. is either too expensive or filled with the ghetto dwellers kicked out of chicago.
That Latino Copper that got arrested this weekend:He's been battling a street gang for years and there's a hit on him, now he's unarmed! Just f*k'n great! You guys that work near his house, keep a good eye on him & his family.
Just f*k'n great!
The OEMC, the ONLY really important civilian agency, is considering pressuring its union to stand united for a repeal of its residency requirement while NOT conceding ANY raises or other benefits. A show of force on this issue, from the trifecta of emergency agencies--CPD, CFD, and 911--would force this issue to the forefront for next set of contract talks set to begin in the fall. Here is to hoping that these agencies can work together on this one important provision for all city workers.
In response to the blue haired lady comment. I can't tell you how many times I have seen cars sporting the FOP items skirting through red lights, not stopping at stop signs, etc.. Does having a badge give the right to do such things? Those who enforce the laws should also follow the laws.
If you do not like the rules quit. You knew the score when the game started. It is not like the city changed the rules. We should never give the city any money back we should just take, hit the money box on overtime, never take the four hours on a holiday make them pay you. We gave back for insurance and have been getting ripped off ever since, but this is my chosen profession 17 years now so I will make the best of a sometimes bad situation.
Remember lads and lasses, a good police officer never gets cold, wet, hungry, or broke.
If you give the city an inch, they will most certainly take that mile.
Who cares? We lose 1.21% each year anyway. We get a 2% cost of living increase each year but the cost of living has increased 3.21% each year for the last 5 years. Take another 1% from me but in return I should be able live where I choose with no restrictions on city, county, or even state for that matter.
The FOP residency bill got resoundingly rejected in the House Labor Committee. I thought Mark and Speaker Madigan had a good relationship. The FOP has donated a great amount of money to Mike and the crew. Where is the bill going Mark? The FOP wants to represent us (Sgts., Lts. and Capts.). What a joke. FOP try to get a bill passed first. PB&PA all the way.
12:41-
It sounds to me that you ran into a wannabe who has a friend that gave him all the Police and FOP stuff. I don't think theres a cop thats stupid enough to act the way you describe in todays climate. Then again..........
Don't give up anything. The reason the city is looking for us to give up something for the residency is because they are going to eventually lose the right to make people live in the city soon. They don't want to lose that part of the contract and feel that they can get something for it instead of eventually getting nothing. Just wait it out. I know it sucks, but just wait it out. Who knows, if we wait it out they may let us live outside the county.
12:41, I agree with the majority of your post, but why do you have to bring up he's "Mexican?" There are idiot coppers of all races and genders, thank you.
HEY RAT BOY 12:41 DID YOU BUY YOURSELF A PIECE OF CHEESE AT JEWEL FIRST OF ALL WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER WHAT RACE THE GUY WAS, SECONDLY IF YOU BELIEVE EVERYONE THAT HAS A HAT BAND AND STICKERS AND MEDALLION IS A COP THEN I HAVE A BRIDGE I WOULD LIKE TO SELL YOU SORRY IF I TOOK TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME YOU CAN STILL MAKE YOUR KLAN MEETING, GRAND DRAGON
Anonymous said...
Forget about it. The city will make you stay. If you don't like it quit and go work in Joliet.
5/28/2007 07:24:00 AM
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These guys that put up 120,000 dollar additions are always chiming the same tune " If you dont like it leave the job" Go fuck yourself its for the betterment of the job everyone knows that.This cities taxes will match that of the burbs soon and for what? The future and the present guys. At least admit that....... Would if the guys in the past never got a union... what if they listened to idiots like you??
Hey ASSHATS
When you signed up for this job & became the REAL Police you had to live in this great city as part of your employment. So if you don't like it quit this job & move wherever you want. Quit crying like the babies that you 10 year wonders are.
Why don't you College educated strokes try & work in the field of your degree
Leave the city and go to another cesspool city in CROOK county. No way.
I am sure the FOP will do a fine job again of f**king us in regards to raises, medical, etc. in the new contract. The dream team of GED' who will do our contract could not buy a car under sticker price.
All the FOP do is kiss the moron mayors ass.
They can stick their grivences up their asses. The city does what it wants regarding our medical benifits, as we all seen last year in c0-payments.
We are in no way getting paid what we should be for more work and less copper' on the street.
You mean it's a bad precedent, you moron. Bill Clinton was a bad president.
"Anonymous said...
Forget about it. The city will make you stay. If you don't like it quit and go work in Joliet.
5/28/2007 07:24:00 AM"
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You sound scared. Feel the fear.
To 12:41 I've seen that shit before at the same Jewel. I'm sure the mexican slipped through the cracks, which are usually large ones, in the background check and missed the fact that he is probably a shitbag pilsen gangbanger. I locked one up for armed robbery around '95 in 012 who was on the job and was a self admitted s.d. Seems we are in the same boat my friend with no where else to go. As for the mass transit copper from 19th st, probably the same old story. I, for one, am glad you shared your story with this blog because you never know who is SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING YOUR BACK. Maybe another banger?
All of us knew that when we applied for this job that you had to live in the city of Chicago. Why did you guys apply if you do not want to live in Chicago? Is it that you were unable to get a police job in the suburbs? Is this department full of suburban rejects? North, South, downtown - the city is whole of great places to live. If you do not like the areas, then quit. Apply for another department, but then again most of you couldn't get a job at Burger King.
Excuse me, Bill Clinton was not a bad president just an adulterous one.
The FOP residency bill got resoundingly rejected in the House Labor Committee. I thought Mark and Speaker Madigan had a good relationship. The FOP has donated a great amount of money to Mike and the crew. Where is the bill going Mark? The FOP wants to represent us (Sgts., Lts. and Capts.). What a joke. FOP try to get a bill passed first. PB&PA all the way. .............
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Cause that's the only way you and your friend Wayne will ever be in the union again Shawn
5/28/2007 02:34:00 PM
You know what, dudes? Take that hostility and anger out on THEM, not on your brothers in the bond. There's too much of this freakin' name-calling in these posts. Grow up--if you don't like someone's opinion, then respond in a civil, cogent or amusing manner. We're all in this together.
i think anyone who has a stupid hatband around his mirror is asking for problems. why advertise that you are the police??? thank god most of the idiots doing this are losers who want to be the police, gang bangers hoping they dont get stopped by the popo, recruits/ppo's or two year wonders that dont know better, and cop groupies. im doubfounded every time i actually stop a copper who has this thing in the car. most times its the stupid spouses of coppers but why take the chance of getting your car keyed or tires slashed? and to all sheriffs reading this, display your own shit in your car instead of cpd stuff. if i had a dollar for every time i stopped one of these asshats i would be rich!
Anonymous said...
12:41, I agree with the majority of your post, but why do you have to bring up he's "Mexican?" There are idiot coppers of all races and genders, thank you.
5/28/2007 03:05:00 PM
because only the tough guy mexican machismo would have the balls to get out of his car and say somthing stupid like that. i work with one of those guys. hatband in the mirror. like it was his date's garter from prom, medallion on the back.... cpd baseball cap in the back window.... 7 fop stickers in the front windshield.... drives home wearing his vest and duty belt. he'll tell you all about the police work he's done but can't write a case report to save his life but he looks good and tough!!!
Anonymous said...
I'm just curious. Do you all not like the City of Chicago (as a city) or do you just dislike the high cost of living in the city?
5/28/2007 09:04:00 AM
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The only people that like this city are the lucky ones that can live in Edison Park.
Gentlemen,
If this happens consider some off-the-beaten-path communities, such as the lovely Ford Heights, Dolton, Phoenix, Chicago Heights or Cicero.
Is there a specific amount of time PO's can tell war stories and the stroies have any bearing to what they do now (nothing)? I've met many PO's who don't do or haven't done anything for a long time but they feel what they did before makes up for not doing anything now. I'm not saying that they should have to be busting ass now. At least back people up, do paper jobs you get, come clear in a reasonable amount of time and stop trying to get out of everything you get.
I know get some time on the job. Well I have it but just don't understand others line of thinking, that's all.
Also, don't concede anything to the city. Fuck them!!!
The FOP would have to do what the unions in the suburbs did to residency overturned sue. The courts have recently been siding with the P.O.on this issue. Chicago is a home rule city and the state law that gives the city the power to require residency aplies to Chicago only. A federal lawsuit (State courts are controlled by Ed burke and the democrats) would take time and money but would most likely be succesful. This is an unconstitutional law. Rockford won this same suit several years ago. and most citys have done away with residency.
how do you know he was " mexican " you asshat. Did he have a cactus growing from his forehead. I also think you are late for your KKK meeting you inbred swine.
mdonaghue@chicagofop.org That is Marks email. If any of you guys are really serious about this thing, then send him an email and tell him what you want. Tell him you want the residency issue on the table during negotiations. If every reader of this post sends an email to him, and tells the rest of the POs in the unit to do so, he WILL get the message that a majority of us what to live outside the city. Back up your tough talk and send him an email with your unit #, no names necessary. I already sent him one. If he comes in to work one day and has 150 emails about the residency issue, and another 150 every day after that, he will get the message. mdonaghue@chicagofop.org
3:34 i would hope the reason the witness copper mentioned that the jagoff copper was a m/4 was just so that if/when the jagoff copper reads the blog he will realize the witness copper was referring to him--now with that said obviously many civilians may have hatbands/medallions on their car but as stated the witness copper said the m/4 announced his office and threatened the blue hair lady to be locked up-i think you were so upset with the mention of the m/4 thing that you did not read very carefully----remember we are all blue!!
So then would that mean we should be entitled to a wage increase if we have to stay in this cesspool?
It is our right. We just take it up the ass even more if we agree to a pay decrease when we are the lowest paid officers in a 90 mile radius already living in the most expensive city.
What moron is even suggesting this?While you are at it, when my taxes go up 30% this coming March along with my kids tuition, will the CPD be increasing my pay for that? Of course not.
Living in Cook County is just as bad as Chicago.
I'd be willing to drop 10-15% to get out of Chicago AND Cook County!
Pose that question SCC.
FOP,
Ask the city what it wants us to give up for residency.
Short of our pension, I'd give em just about anything to get out of this sewer!
Why don't you College educated strokes try & work in the field of your degree
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Why don't YOU learn proper grammar and punctuation salty nuts.
We can bitch if we please.
These guys that put up 120,000 dollar additions are always chiming the same tune " If you dont like it leave the job" Go fuck yourself its for the betterment of the job everyone knows that.
5/28/2007 04:24:00 PM
Please tell me where I can get a $120k addition, cause every contractor I talk to is closer to $250k for dormers and a rear addition in Edison
park!
To "Just curious". It really doesn't have anything to do with the city,it's the politics,social programs,taxes,schools,cronyism,nepotism,general socialist movement,and liberals that drives me nuts.I absolutely can't stand the politics here.People don't vote for their RIGHTS here ,they vote for social programs and benefits,there is no opposition.
1233 THE CITY DID CHANGE THE RULES.... WE PAY MORE FOR INSURANCE, WE WILL BE LOSING MEDICAL BEFORE YOU KNOW IT .
OYU ARE WORRIED YOUR SHACK IS NOT GOING TO BE WORTH S--T
Heard a rumor at a party recently about upcoming contract. Looks like the city wants to give us something like a bank account for our current comp time on the books. Whatever you have now will be worth your current pay. Your hours on the books multipled by your hourly wage. Any comp time earned in the future will be at your hourly wager when earned. They don't like paying a Capt's hourly rate when that guy retires when 90% of his hours were not earned at that rate. Or even a PO with 30 years on. He goes out at a much, much higher rate than when he came on. The city in return will allow us to sell back an as of yet undetermined amount of hours every year. Any truth to this?
You knew the rules when you came on. If you didn't like them, you shouldn't have signed up.
You think the grass is greener in the suburbs? You ever see the tax rates in the Cook County suburbs? Lake County? DuPage? Our taxes are miniscule compared to theirs.
You get nickeled and dimed over every city service. The schools (except for the North Shore) aren't so great--better than ours I will concede.
Where do you think the animal went when the high rise CHA buildings came down? It isn't just scattered site around the city. Hanover Park is experiancing a 10 fold increase in crime. Skokie sucks. Forget about the south suburbs. There is shit everywhere, even in DuPage.
Quit the pipe dream, residency is here to stay. If you don't like it, get a job in the private sector. But remember, in the private sector--they expect results.
maybe we present residency from a perspective the benefits the city.
( I know "screw the city") but expanding residency boundries will also expand the city's ability to recruit from a bigger pool of applicants. Maybe there are some quality suburban PO's that would love to work for CPD but don't want to move. Lord knows we can use all the qualified applicants we can get.
If the city thinks it's in their best interests to expand their ability to recruit, then they can bring it to the table for negotiations. If they bring it to the table, then we can fight for a fair and equitable way to put it in the contact for everyone.
I worked with that guy (who actually lived in Tennessee) in Narcotics and in 011. Helluva copper. Rumor has it he was the inspiration for the Patrick Swayze movie NEXT OF KIN that was filmed here. He did have an apartment over at 24 and Oakley that he rented from another Narcotics guy. I hope he is doing well.
BOY AM I GLAD MOST OF YOU FELLAS DONT GO TO THE FOP MEETING BECAUSE IT SEEM YOU ALL HAVE VERY SMALL AGENDAS. DONT COMPROMISE GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN YOU LADIES ARE LIVING IN LALA LAND.
SOME OF YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO TELL PEOPLE TO QUIT BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. THE OTHERS HARP ON THEIR SENIORITY 5 TO TEN YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH TIME ON THE JOB.
YOU MINORITIES NEED TO START SHOWING UP TO THE MEETINGS IT LIKE A SENIOR CONVENTION OF HAS BEEN SOS AND GUN TEAM GUYS.
LASTLY COLLEGE IS NEVER A DRAWBACK SO WHAT WITH ALL THE COLLEGE BASHING. YOU ALL SEND YOUR FINE DAUGHTERS TO THESE SCHOOL AND GUESS WHO THEY MEET THE WANNA B POLICE JUST LIKE THEIR DADDIES.
The fact that is lost on alot of POs is the fact there are 2 cities.
East of the River, where those with the financial resources, walk their dogs w/latte in hand oblivious to the rampant corruption that surrounds them.
Those west of the river that have 2 contend with inadequate city services, rising property taxes& crime rates.
The 5th floor idiot caters to them & the rest of us can go to hell...
Anonymous said...
I'm just curious. Do you all not like the City of Chicago (as a city) or do you just dislike the high cost of living in the city?
5/28/2007 09:04:00 AM
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The only people that like this city are the lucky ones that can live in Edison Park.
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Who the fuck wants to live in Edison Park?
HEY RAT BOY 12:41 DID YOU BUY YOURSELF A PIECE OF CHEESE AT JEWEL FIRST OF ALL WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER WHAT RACE THE GUY WAS, SECONDLY IF YOU BELIEVE EVERYONE THAT HAS A HAT BAND AND STICKERS AND MEDALLION IS A COP THEN I HAVE A BRIDGE I WOULD LIKE TO SELL YOU SORRY IF I TOOK TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME YOU CAN STILL MAKE YOUR KLAN MEETING, GRAND DRAGON
klan meets 10pm on sundays burning of the cross right afterwards. bring your own cold beer.
why should we take a redection when the teachers got it for free??
Lets go to court like they did. After all, I'll have to use the money to pay for the movers.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
12:41, I agree with the majority of your post, but why do you have to bring up he's "Mexican?" There are idiot coppers of all races and genders, thank you.
5/28/2007 03:05:00 PM
because only the tough guy mexican machismo would have the balls to get out of his car and say somthing stupid like that. i work with one of those guys. hatband in the mirror. like it was his date's garter from prom, medallion on the back.... cpd baseball cap in the back window.... 7 fop stickers in the front windshield.... drives home wearing his vest and duty belt. he'll tell you all about the police work he's done but can't write a case report to save his life but he looks good and tough!!!
5/28/2007 08:04:00 PM
Hey stupid fuck,
The two year wonder that lives across the street from me does the same stupid shit. All 5 foot 6, 165 pounds of him. You should see the strut he picked up...real tough guy. Hatbands and fop stickers all over his bike and car.
Typical Irish boy that never had to get tough until he came on the job.
Just like YOU.
IN response to 4:58pm
I am leaving at the end of the year for a better department on the west coast. You can take this job and shove it up your ass......The REAL POLICE.... Good for you dick, you be the REAL POLICE and make shit money and I'll be the police make a 90,000 a year worken 10hr days,live'n in a comunity where I don't have some shit head hangen out on the corner represent'n, where people support you and appreciate the work you do, where I can send my kids to a public school system where they actually will learn how to read and write. I'll pay the 10000 dollars in taxs if it doesn't mean I have to 8000 for private school..You dim witted Moron
Hat bands on cars....I don't have one on my car or an f.o.p. sticker but, my saintly grey haired mother saw one on a car and asked if she could have one for hers. I gave her one. I hope she's not out sticking up 7/11's and that she just wanted it because she might like me. Anyway, she's pushing 80 years old. I would be a little upset if two or three of you wrestled her to your squad car in handcuffs. Bottom line, generalization won't work.
I have an idea, how about the City gives us all a second home outside the city, location of our choice, just like the Mayor and all the big bosses have, and their places are mostly paid for from the decades of stealing they have done.
he didnt mean BAD president , he meant bad you know it was a brother writing that!
like "you one bad mo fo"
Thanks 11:09pm! That was told to me over 15 years ago by an ex-OCD guy I worked a shift or two w/on the west side. Just from what the two of you said, i hope he's doing well too. That guy beat the machine!!
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
To you with the problem at the jewel, I ask? Why didn't you step up and say something to that "mexican" or where you scared you little pussy!? Damn straight I would have said and done something cause you know what I am a person that just doesn't talk smack like you, I do things and take actions. If you were too afraid to take the action any civil human being would take you should have called 911. Sure he was wrong if he is the police but you should be more ashamed that an old blue haired lady had bigger balls than you. Your wife is married to a real man, NOT!
"I'm sure most of us know a few suburban coppers. I know my fair share of them. They all will tell you flat out that there is no such thing as a promotion in the burbs without getting on your knees and sucking and fucking the whole city council. No matter what anybody thinks you can have your lucky test day on CPD with our promotional process. I scored in the top 300 on both the last dick and sgt test. I don't know anybody and won't get on my knees except to pray at church. It can happen. I won't happen in the burbs. I know we could have the best of both worlds working on CPD and living in the burbs."
I guess all your suburban cop friends work in Cicero.
A suburban cop
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
The city changes the rules any time it suits them. Or maybe you haven't seen any promotion exams or lawsuits or labor grievances. The residency rule might have made sense 25 years ago, but now? And I'll bet you're wrong about the majority of complainers being white. You don't think the black and hispanic cops are tired of living with their shithead neighbors because that's the only property any cops can afford, black or white or brown. Fuck off rookie.
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
No changing the rules halfway through the game.... You have to be a 2 year wonder. The city changes everything, when they want. I was hired beginning of 1993 told every promotional exam will be posted in roll call room. Hey shitwad college is the requirement for promotions and yes it was changed halfway through the game. The city will not grandfather us and before your cocky response..... I'm a single parent, raised my chldren myself and going to school was not an option.
Im am all for giving up a percent of my salery to live outside the city, but if I cant Im going to contine to do nothing and enjoy collecting a paycheck. Its all about the payday ladies and gentlemen there is no such thing as work, and if you are one of the morons busting heads for TVB's, 1 rockers, and SUB's than you deserve to have the city stick it in and break it off. Im a proud DOG, there isnt a dam thing anyone can do about it.
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
5/29/2007 01:58:00 AM
Hey JAGBALLS, when I came on the job I wasn't paying a dime for health insurance, but the city changed the rules!
When I came on this job, a high school diploma was just fine. I took a Sgt's test in 1993 & was promoted a couple years later, WITH ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA!! Now they tell me I cannot take a Lt's test because I don't have a college education!
I'll be honest, residency is not that big an issue to me, personally. But don't get on your soapbox and tell me what rules were here when we took this job! The city changes the rules whenever they see fit!
And by the way, race has nothing to do with this issue. The issue is the city can & will do whatever it pleases. Rules or not!!
Anonymous said...
The FOP residency bill got resoundingly rejected in the House Labor Committee. I thought Mark and Speaker Madigan had a good relationship. The FOP has donated a great amount of money to Mike and the crew. Where is the bill going Mark? The FOP wants to represent us (Sgts., Lts. and Capts.). What a joke. FOP try to get a bill passed first. PB&PA all the way.
5/28/2007 02:34:00 PM
Where does Madigan live? 008!!!!! If he lifts residency there goes his political army. Is called self preservation. I bet Joyce from the 019th. ward is dead set against this issue too.
How many nights of the week do the orders say a po must spend in the city to meet the requirements of residency?
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
No changing the rules? what department are you on? the city and job thrive on changing the rules as it suits them; does the promotional process ring a bell? or the college requirement that popped up out of nowhere in the early 90's? get a clue, the city does what it wants and worries about the lawsuits later. I think most coppers would like to move out of the city, especially black and hispanic....
To you with the problem at the jewel, I ask? Why didn't you step up and say something to that "mexican" or where you scared you little pussy!? Damn straight I would have said and done something cause you know what I am a person that just doesn't talk smack like you, I do things and take actions. If you were too afraid to take the action any civil human being would take you should have called 911. Sure he was wrong if he is the police but you should be more ashamed that an old blue haired lady had bigger balls than you. Your wife is married to a real man, NOT!
Yeah that's a good idea, get involved in something like that off duty these days, it would have took about 30 minutes for the cr and the ads ordering you're both stripped, call 911? you can't be serious, remind me to never work with you........
I guess all your suburban cop friends work in Cicero.
A suburban cop
No they work in municipalities all the over the area, go over to the burbs cop blog and see how great it is, don't forget in those small towns there aren't many chances for promotion to begin with, if you don't think politics and nepotism exist, you're nuts, heard of Rosemont? Niles? etc. it's the same everywhere, with higher taxes.
If we move out of Chicago we would loose our right to vote, and Daley would screw us even more.
If we pay for that right what else would he make us pay for?
It’s a bad president, like the $2 per paycheck for medical care. If it’s 1-2% now, how much later?
5/27/2007 11:49:00 PM
RIGHT TO VOTE??? For who or what?!? IF its not daley, its one of his goons. Notice how the olympics never went to referrendum? Migs field destroyed? Hmmm.....keep your right to vote in shitcago. Ill move to the burbs where I can have a vote THIERE that actually COUNTS
Anonymous said...
Its real easy to satisfy both sides. If you want to live outside the city, the percentage is deducted from your annual salary. Only those who choose to leave are out the cash. SIGN ME UP!!
5/28/2007 02:25:00 AM
Oh my god, great idea. Please run for union!!!!!
Anonymous said...
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
5/29/2007 01:58:00 AM
Hey dickhead, when I came on a shack in 016 wasn't $450,000 and the CPS school system was still pretty decent. STAY OFF THIS BLOG Daley.
If we move out of Chicago we would loose our right to vote, and Daley would screw us even more.
If we pay for that right what else would he make us pay for?
It’s a bad president, like the $2 per paycheck for medical care. If it’s 1-2% now, how much later?
5/27/2007 11:49:00 PM
You have to be a jagoff libtard! Who are you shitting! We vote and then the dumbocrats make sure asshole thieves like stroger-blago-daley and the 50 alderthieves win as always! Waht about fast eddie burke? they got fast eddie v is burke next? why does he have a huge D-3 detail? this is a travesty to have police officers work 14 days a month get overtime for picking up burkes laundry!
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Who the fuck wants to live in Edison Park?
5/28/2007 11:19:00 PM
its the second best place to live in this city if you have a family. Im sure you wouldnt know that living in Mt Greenwood, single, and banging some fat chick.
quit the job if you want to move out of the city
Anonymous said...
I guess all your suburban cop friends work in Cicero.
A suburban cop
No they work in municipalities all the over the area, go over to the burbs cop blog and see how great it is, don't forget in those small towns there aren't many chances for promotion to begin with, if you don't think politics and nepotism exist, you're nuts, heard of Rosemont? Niles? etc. it's the same everywhere, with higher taxes.
5/29/2007 11:26:00 AM
We don't want to work in the burbs, just live there dummy. I couldn't care less about suburban department politics.
REAL BROKE POLICE and that's about it.
To: "You have to be a jagoff libtard! Who are you shitting! We vote and then the dumbocrats"
Are you off base!
You don't know me, Liberal my ass? Somewhere to the left of Atilla the Hun maybe. The rest I will not grace with a response.
"We vote..." the problem is we don't vote as a block under any good union leadership. Look what can be accomplished in places like Boston. There the cops earn well over $100K a year with great benefits. Why because they threaten to disrupt the Democratic National Convention and picket the mayor wherever he goes and they vote. If we move out, we don't vote and we will be treated even more like shit.
Google "Boston Police Union" and see what can be done when the mayor fears the cops, the firemen and other city employees as a voting block.
I've been the police out in the sticks and I thought about going for CPD. If it weren't for residency, I'd apply in a heartbeat. No damn way I'd live in that city, though. I grew up on the North Side, and I won't live closer in than Indiana now.
"Im sure you wouldnt know that living in Mt Greenwood, single, and banging some fat chick.
5/29/2007 04:00:00 PM"
Ummmm, Sounds Delicious. Does she come with lots of tattoos &tung ring?
ATTENTION ANY LABOR LAWYER READING THIS BLOG: Find all the residency requiremnts that were lifted for p.o.s in other states. Build a case and collect money from every copper who would like to see this lifted(no one wants to live in crook county either). I would gladly pay $500 to $1000. Im sure finding 500-1000 coppers who would pay that would be a walk in the park. I think a lawyer with that kind of money would work pretty hard. In the mean time everyone and their brother, aunt, sister and cousin should file a lawsuit against the city for anything,for example fire hydrants arent bright enough and you trip on them, or The city dosent provide enough protection from u.f.os.(frivouls lawsuits are how the City of Chicago tried to put the gun manufacturers out of business). The city will have so many wars on many fronts. Their lawers will be swamped and we will seize the day. ( dont bitch about my spelling or gramar)
Anonymous said...
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
No changing the rules halfway through the game.... You have to be a 2 year wonder. The city changes everything, when they want. I was hired beginning of 1993 told every promotional exam will be posted in roll call room. Hey shitwad college is the requirement for promotions and yes it was changed halfway through the game. The city will not grandfather us and before your cocky response..... I'm a single parent, raised my chldren myself and going to school was not an option.
5/29/2007 09:47:00 AM
No you fucking moron I am not a two year wonder in fact I have more time then you 02 Jan. 91 is my appointment date. I have been passed over and pissed on by this corrupt system as much as anyone, but if you thought this job was legit you thought wrong.
Bosses kids geting the answers to tests, getting cake details it is demoralizing but I still work hard everyday for personal pride and work ethic. We are out her for ourselves and each other, the self hatred displayed on this website is sad, entertaining but sad, there are just some mother fuckers on this job with rabbit ears.
By the way I am not a college graduate either
5/30/2007 08:11:00 AM
Your the fucking moron who made the statement:There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
No changing the rules halfway through the game.... You have to be a 2 year wonder. The city changes everything, when they want. I was hired beginning of 1993 told every promotional exam will be posted in roll call room. Hey shitwad college is the requirement for promotions and yes it was changed halfway through the game. The city will not grandfather us and before your cocky response..... I'm a single parent, raised my chldren myself and going to school was not an option.
5/29/2007 09:47:00 AM
No you fucking moron I am not a two year wonder in fact I have more time then you 02 Jan. 91 is my appointment date. I have been passed over and pissed on by this corrupt system as much as anyone, but if you thought this job was legit you thought wrong.
Bosses kids geting the answers to tests, getting cake details it is demoralizing but I still work hard everyday for personal pride and work ethic. We are out her for ourselves and each other, the self hatred displayed on this website is sad, entertaining but sad, there are just some mother fuckers on this job with rabbit ears.
By the way I am not a college graduate either
5/30/2007 08:11:00 AM
Ok, Genius, so I only have you by 5 years (1986 in case you can't do the math)! Medical was FREE!!College NOT required! If you came on when college was not required, how can you say "you knew the rules when you came on the job"?? Since you came on the job, they changed the rules requiring a college degree for future promotions. How were those of us hired before this bullshit rule not grandfathered in?? Because the union blows & is in bed with the city. And as much as they BS about looking out for the officers, the officers' unions are a f'ing JOKE!!
5/30/2007 08:11:00 AM
In Addition:
Are you racist? bet the majority of people complaining are white.
This is about Blue.
I HAVE AN IDEA HOW ABOUT WE MEET WITH A BUILDER AND GET SOME LAND ENOUGH TO BUILD NUMEROUS HOMES, HAVE THE MAYOR BUILD US A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADE SCHOOL (HE COULD USE THE TAX DOLLARS HE GIVES TO THE SHIT PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM), WE COULD CALL IT COPLAND! FENCE IT IN LIKE A LUXURY ESTATE IN THE SUBURBS AND ONLY POLICE AND MAYBE FIRE COULD LIVE THERE! THEN WE KEEP ASSHOLES OUT OF OUR AREA! WE COULD BUILD IT MAYBE OVER EAST LOTS OF CHEAP LAND, AND THE AREA AROUND IT WOULD NATURALLY APPECIATE IN VALUE AS IT WOULD KEEP THE BULLSHIT POOR AWAY! CAN WE DO IT?
You would still have to live in Cook County. So please tell me which decent suburb in Cook County doesn't have inflated home value? It would be nice to live in Lincolnwood or Park Ridge, but it isn't any cheaper. In fact it is more expensive in the places you probably want to live. I don't think you'll be able to purchase a home any easier in any Cook County suburb worth living in. There are lots of deals in Maywood, Berkley, and Stone Park. Don't give up pay to move to Ghetto burbs.
Anonymous said...
its the second best place to live in this city if you have a family. Im sure you wouldnt know that living in Mt Greenwood, single, and banging some fat chick.
5/29/2007 04:00:00 PM
Hey! You got a problem with fat chicks! What'd they do to you?
Anonymous said...
You fucking whiners, living in the city was a requirement when you came on the job, if you do not like it fucking quit.
There is no changing the rules halfway through the game. I bet the majority of people complaining are white.
5/29/2007 01:58:00 AM
Hey JAGBALLS, when I came on the job I wasn't paying a dime for health insurance, but the city changed the rules!
When I came on this job, a high school diploma was just fine. I took a Sgt's test in 1993 & was promoted a couple years later, WITH ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA!! Now they tell me I cannot take a Lt's test because I don't have a college education!
I'll be honest, residency is not that big an issue to me, personally. But don't get on your soapbox and tell me what rules were here when we took this job! The city changes the rules whenever they see fit!
And by the way, race has nothing to do with this issue. The issue is the city can & will do whatever it pleases. Rules or not!!
5/29/2007 10:20:00 AM
Vote for someone else. Run for union president. Do not just whine about it, do something about it.
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I HAVE AN IDEA HOW ABOUT WE MEET WITH A BUILDER AND GET SOME LAND ENOUGH TO BUILD NUMEROUS HOMES, HAVE THE MAYOR BUILD US A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADE SCHOOL (HE COULD USE THE TAX DOLLARS HE GIVES TO THE SHIT PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM), WE COULD CALL IT COPLAND! FENCE IT IN LIKE A LUXURY ESTATE IN THE SUBURBS AND ONLY POLICE AND MAYBE FIRE COULD LIVE THERE! THEN WE KEEP ASSHOLES OUT OF OUR AREA! WE COULD BUILD IT MAYBE OVER EAST LOTS OF CHEAP LAND, AND THE AREA AROUND IT WOULD NATURALLY APPECIATE IN VALUE AS IT WOULD KEEP THE BULLSHIT POOR AWAY! CAN
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You already fucked it up.....if your gonna let the firemen in then I'll just stay in my present rathole!!
The Mayor said ," If the city is good enough for me to live in, its good enough for the rest of the city workers to live in" or something to that effect.
How many calls for police service on the mayors block?
Do his neighbors get dropoffs from drugdealers?
Any gang graffiti on his block?
Im sure those a ton of little Latin Kings walking around his house.
The police, fire, and teachers union need to get together on one issue( residency). If we stood together we could run this city. Hell it might screw up the suburbs
but bring in the Streets and Sans union to. Those guys are all political hacks. However the more people we could get on board the better,
NO CONCESSIONS PERIOD.
STAND UNITED AND DON'T GIVE THE CITY A DAMN THING.
DEMAND THE WORLD AND SETTLE FOR 4 CONTINENTS.
My Ex moved to Oswego bought a great house with land great price suddenly huge realestate taxes and the area developed needs schools roads sewers more police and since no industrial or commercial basis yet guess who pays for it all
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