Monday, July 23, 2007

6,700 Guns


At last, children can play in the parks without fear, citizens can ride through Englewood with their car doors unlocked and the windows down, coppers in 015 and 011 can put away the bullet proof vests and relax in the warm summer air.

If there is a single homicide in the city from this point forward, we can only hope that Pfleger, Jackson and Daley all commit hari-kari.

A question or two though:
  • Do these $100 gift cards have a 6 month expiration like we heard the last set did?
  • What exactly is the supplier of the gift cards getting out of this anyway? For $670,000 it seems a bit steep in terms of advertising. Or is the city refunding part of the money for every homicide or future gun confiscation that takes place? What's the angle?

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49 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure the total of 6,700 guns includes the replica pistols, air rifles and bb guns recovered as well. The total is bogus, just to boost numbers for the media.

Even in the busiest of years, we (the Department) have only recovered 15,000 or so guns in a year, including several turn-in events like this if my memory serves correctly. God I hate these fucking turn-ins, only the people looking to obey the law in the first place are seeking to turn them in at events.

7/23/2007 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about the gun control issue in washington d.c. over turned , will allow the avaerage citizen the right to bear arms. this will set the direction nation wide.. as the news media indicated it may not be heard in appelate court and should be the law of the land..

7/23/2007 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did you see how many folks from downstate showed up? stated that they had old shotguns that didn't work and figured it was better to come to chicago and cash them out. by yhe way how many that where turned in did not work...???

7/23/2007 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MOst of the guns can in from the Suburbs.

7/23/2007 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At the location we turned in a gun at they ran out of cards at about 75 and had to give rain checks for next Saturday. Before you bitch about it, it was a gun no longer needed in the household and I may as well get the c-note.

7/23/2007 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw a few Wisconsin plates out front too.

7/23/2007 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo! Have any coppers kids ever brought in one of daddy's service weapons? That would be funny.

7/23/2007 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous $$$-Making Opportunity said...

Hey POs! Need a P/T Job?

Over the course of the next year, think about this... when you still catch Ray-Ray running around with Airsoft/BB guns and take it from him, don't throw it away! You just threw away $10.00! Save them up over the course of the year, then send a friend to a turn in event! Cha-ching, cha-ching!

7/23/2007 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Chris Morton said...

"Anonymous said...
how about the gun control issue in washington d.c. over turned , will allow the avaerage citizen the right to bear arms. this will set the direction nation wide.. as the news media indicated it may not be heard in appelate court and should be the law of the land..

7/23/2007 05:21:00 AM"

DC was between the proverbial rock and a hard place. If they didn't appeal the Parker decision, they had to let non-criminals have handguns. If they appeal and lose, it could be the beginning of the end for gun control in the United States. If I had to bet, I'd say that some day Mayor Fenty is going to be remembered as the man who ended gun control.

As for Chicago, let me paraphrase Satchell Page: "Don't look behind you Daley, something might be gaining on you... the 2nd Amendment."

Now that doesn't mean that Daley will obey the law or the US Constitution. What it DOES mean is that the Chicago FOP better take lesson from the Cleveland FOP which instructed its members to NOT enforce Cleveland's preempted so-called "assault weapon ban", in DIRECT contradiction of Mayor Frank Jackson's orders. The alternative is for Chicago cops to get themselves in the same sort of bind that the Norfolk, VA PD got themselves into by brutally enforcing a facially invalid preempted gun ban. Now, the city and individual officers face punishing lawsuits from their victim. And it's starting to look like the City of Norfolk is planning to throw those cops under the bus in a [futile] attempt to minimize its own exposure.

7/23/2007 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need to follow-up a gun turn in with a condom giveaway.

7/23/2007 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SHEEP

7/23/2007 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still keeping my AK,M1a,FAL and all the hi-cap mags Mr. Daley.You can have them when you pry them from my cold dead hands.

7/23/2007 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if King Richard realizes that the summer Olympic games involves firearms???

7/23/2007 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enact a 3 firearm limit. One handgun for work, a shotgun for bird hunting, and a rifle for those who shoot Bambi.

7/23/2007 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would bet that most of the turn in's were junk to begin with, however I also bet that some got swindled.Some firearms are worth thousands of dollars and I cringe when I see an original Colt from the 1800's gets turned in.Look it up on the internet and you would be supprised.To think that you could have sold the gun for $3,000.+ and only got a $100. gift card.That in itself should be a crime, in fact it is, it's called stealing if the city didn't tell people what they actually had. Just make beleive the gun was an antique Tiffany lamp and the city gave you $100. for it,now wouldn't you feel ripped off?

7/23/2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I made a tidy $240 profit from the 3 I turned in, bought them for $20 each at a gun show and sold them for $100! Not sure if they worked or not, but I certainly made a profit! Can't wait for the next turn in.........

7/23/2007 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger cory said...

I friend of mine who worked the turn in on the southside told me that 90% of the guns turned in were by the elderly. Yea because thats where we are having a problems........damn old people shooting up the town.......
real good idea there

Oh and can someone tell me why turning in a civil war musket is of use to this whole "gun" turn in. Now a museum piece if going to be melted down

7/23/2007 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vast majority of the guns turned in at my assigned location were garbage. Pieces of guns, non-functioning rust buckets. But hey a C-note is a C-note. By the way, my location took in 267 real guns and 40 replica/bb guns. Praise father Phleger.

7/23/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well good to know no more guns will funnel into Chicago via Indiana, Mississippi, etc.

Supply and demand people, basic economics.

We will continue to live in a city where the criminals will carry and use guns and Joe Citizen will continue to be preyed upon by them.

Keep voting democrat, morons.

7/23/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! WE ARE FINALLY SAFE! THE GOOD PEOPLE GAVE IN THERE GUNS NOW THE CRIMINALS HAVE GUNS!

7/23/2007 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I personally observed many people leave with their guns rather than wait in the long line especially after they found out they had run out of the cash cards.

7/23/2007 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HEARD THE GIFT CARDS ARE ONLY REDEEMABLE AT 'MOO & OINK.'


IS THIS TRUE?

7/23/2007 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous CLOUT BOY said...

YOU DONATE MONEY TO A DALEY CAUSE FOR INSTANCE LET SAY GUN TURN INS YOU GET A FAVOR IN RETURN.

LETS SAY WAL MART YOU MAY RECIEVE A ZONING CHANGE WHICH YOU CAN GAIN MILLIONS IN REVENUE FOR A LARGER STORE.

LET S TRY TARGET THEY DONATE MILLIONS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
NOW DALEY CAN SAY DO YOU HAVE A JOB THAT PAYS 100,000 FOR MY BUDDY.
BUDDY DONATES 20,000 INTO POLITICAL COFFERS OF LETS SAY 5-10 ALDERMAN ALL UNDER 3000.00.

REMBER PRIVATE COMPANIES DONT FALL UNDER THE SHAKMAN DECREE. WHY DO YOU THINK ALL OF DALEY X CHIEFS OF STAFF SNITCH ON HIM WHEN HE FIRES THEM.

SO THE MONEY FOR THE GUNS IS CHICKEN FEED. FIND THE COMPANY AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR 3-5 YEARS DOWN THE LINE. MIGHT BE FREE CITY LAND , ZONING, EMINENT DOMAIN REQUEST, TAX BREAK OR EVEN A LAW TO BE CHANGED.

7/23/2007 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't stand the headline grabbing race hustlers either and question their motives at every turn. I thought the turn-ins were bullshit, too.

But let me just ask you this question -- let's say one in ten of the guns turned in over the weekend could be described as legitimate, working weapons that came from Chicago addresses and were not far from the reach of a kid or a gangbanger?

Then, would you be able to muster up enough gratitude to thank those 670 people who decided to turn the gun in, no matter the motive?

You're right to question where the $670,000 comes from. Legit question.

But why not at least consider the idea that, maybe, just maybe, these things are not that bad afterall. What harm do these gun turn ins have? Why are they not a good idea?
All I am saying is that

7/23/2007 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gang-bangers show up with a bunch of "tired" (non-working) guns. You know electrical tape on the old broken handgrip, so much rust that it can only be used to strike somebody across the head with, and not fired etc. Guns that look like they've been buried in the ground for decades.

Then they get prepaid credit cards in return for the turned in junk. Now they can turn those into cash and BUY brand-new guns and bring them into the city to use in their criminal enterprise.

The City that works....Bah!

7/23/2007 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It really is kind of a joke---like the gangbangers turned theirs in? LOL LOL But..... the bangers won't get the ones turned in when they commit their next burglary so I guess some good came of it.

7/23/2007 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wonder how many years there were gun turn ins prior to the last two years of gift certificates. what happened to the good olden days of southside GD/Black political associates having neighbors and friends turn in retired "nation" guns for fresh gun money funds. what a wonderful city.

7/23/2007 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Chris Morton said...

" Anonymous said...

Enact a 3 firearm limit. One handgun for work, a shotgun for bird hunting, and a rifle for those who shoot Bambi.

7/23/2007 10:08:00 AM"

No, I refuse.

Still not a damned thing in the world you can do about it.

7/23/2007 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know why the fuck Mitch Shore and fat-assed Harvey (of Shore Galleries)were allowed to turn in broken weapons...12 a piece? Talk about a racket. It is simple economics, but I am sure that is not the intended purpose of a gun turn in. Go ahead you fucking jag-offs ruin it for everyone with your greed.

7/23/2007 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bogus? How about the picture in Sunday's Sun Times with Sgt. Plotke showing Mac 11's Uzi's and Tec 9's? This picture was taken at either the training academy or area 5. Do they really think that we'd believe that all those weapons were turned in for a 100 debit card? Or how about when those firearms were really taken into custody? I find it incredulous that they can run that program till 1600, run them down there after inventorying them and laying them out for a photo op that is done in time to get the story to press by 1800 hrs.


Sounds like Daley's media bullshit to me....

7/23/2007 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me clarify, the total of guns collected is 6,176, the total of replica weapons and bb guns is 678.

Why is it that you have to find the negative in anything. One gun removed from the street has the potential to save a coppers life. I am very happy that many were removed from the street, homes, cellars, wherever. The point was to get the city involved to take some action instead of always pointing in the direction of the police and saying it was our fault. Also, corporations and city businesses paid the bill you moron!

7/23/2007 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked at one of the busiest locations. You guys were mis-informed. We got a lot of parents turning in guns and elderly people that just wanted the guns out of their house. They had grandkids, etc. We got 27 sawed off shot guns, 4 uzi's, 3 AK's, about 60 9 mm, 12 with the bannana clip, at least 6 guns that I would have gave a grand for, and a few that were shit.

Overall it did the city and citizens some good, it let them feel like they were doing something and gave 011 tact one less gun to chase down.

7/23/2007 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous from my cold dead hands said...

A mere 6,700 grains of sand from a beach, all turned in by decent, law-abiding and naive people.

The dog and pony show continues...

7/23/2007 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It really is kind of a joke---like the gangbangers turned theirs in? LOL LOL But..... the bangers won't get the ones turned in when they commit their next burglary so I guess some good came of it.


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that's kind of a good point...

7/23/2007 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Olympics: There is shooting involved in the Olympics. Will the athletes need FOID cards?

7/23/2007 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous got a new gat said...

I took in four guns at differant times and got four of those cards.

The guns were junk and did not work, two of them were not even complete guns.

I took my $400.00 bucks and went strait to Chucks and bought a real gun, it shoots lots of real big bullets.

Thanks Jessie and Fr. Fleiger, Oh yes almost forgot, Chucks axed me to tell you thanks too.

7/23/2007 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

COOL VIDEO!!

"New York Police Parade, June 1st, 1899"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-296146559625951990&q=%22russell+timoshenko%22&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

(Copy and paste of course)

7/23/2007 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you dare bring 011 tact. into this smoke and mirrors show, I'm in 011 tact. and I only want to take guns away from felons not normal citizens. I don't want grandpa's old shotgun or .22,you cheapen the job I do by saying so.

7/23/2007 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous dwlawson said...

etc. We got 27 sawed off shot guns, 4 uzi's, 3 AK's, about 60 9 mm, 12 with the bannana clip, at least 6 guns that I would have gave a grand for, and a

Puhleeze...show us a pic! Right.

7/23/2007 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you dare bring 011 tact. into this smoke and mirrors show, I'm in 011 tact. and I only want to take guns away from felons not normal citizens. I don't want grandpa's old shotgun or .22,you cheapen the job I do by saying so.

7/23/2007 10:40:00 PM

YOUR COOL.

7/24/2007 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't want grandpa's old shotgun or .22,you cheapen the job I do by saying so."

When it's 4 O'clock & your w/ o a a head& that call comes in. You'll race the beat car assigned, knock him down the stairs if he's there already, & take grandpa in along w/ the.22 all in pursuit of the Almighty "CB".

Don't kid yourself or anyone else that reads this Blog, ASSHAT!

7/24/2007 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guns don't kill people, it's the reckless savage pulling the trigger that kills people.

please tell me they didn't give $100 gift cards to people turning in bb guns and replica guns and starter pistols. please tell they didn't...

7/24/2007 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After viewing the news clips of the guns collected, I have to assume that anyone crazy enough to put a live cartridge in to one of those weapons turned in should be put on suicide watch....I have never seen such a collection of rust in my short life....!

7/24/2007 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,
You missed one really huge problem with this gun turnin.

What occurs when a gun is ballistically tested and it was used in a homicide or aggravated battery?

How does this affect the chain of evidence?

What protocols are in place to trace the weapon back to the source of origin or to the offender?

What is the timeframe to test 6,700 weapons?

What if a weapon is destroyed prior to a criminal trial and the defense asserts their right to independent ballistic testing?

7/24/2007 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey,I just went to Indiana and bought a New Vector Arms mini-uzi,I also bought 10 25 round hi-cap mags too.I wait 24 hours and im bringing my Uzi to the city.I wont be registering it or anything else.Screw those idiots at Megasports.

Next pay period im going to buy a Arsenal USA AK-105 and a good supply of 30 round mags.

PS.Blow me Mr. Daley.

7/25/2007 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sadly its not just tac who will push the beat cops down the stairs for the grandpa CB for a pistol, its most beat cars these days. if they would handle the beat instead of being as greedy as pigs in a traw then maybe things would get done in this city.

7/25/2007 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guns don't kill people, it's the reckless savage pulling the trigger that kills people.

please tell me they didn't give $100 gift cards to people turning in bb guns and replica guns and starter pistols. please tell they didn't...
**$10 for replica guns. Nada for starter pistols/toys.
No matter what gun got turned in, it's one that can't be stolen in a burglary and used out in the street. The replicas can prevent someone getting killed by Us.
It is a good cause, but the Young Guns out there didn't turn theirs in. At my location I could honestly say there were less than 10 questionable people that turned in a weapon out of the 200+ that we got.

7/25/2007 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are blind or are too full of your own Bullshit to see the truth in this.You are all good little nazi's and obey every order don't you? Even from the devil himself.I hope some day soon to get away from all of you socialists,I just hope you people stay here and not infect the rest of America.

7/25/2007 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tact guys are just pissed because now you don't have any old people to pin guns on, now you will have to stop the bullshit and try and really find a criminal, gang banger or possible victim of an agg. battery with a real gun.

If you could read, you would know that bb and replica guns got a 10.00 mastercard. None of the cards can be used at a gunshop thanks to mastercard. Did you listen to the news, they told you that since you can't read, and all of the posters say the same thing. I know because my district still has 100 of them in our storage room.

7/26/2007 10:50:00 PM  

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