The "Perception" of Crime
There was study a few years back, we don't even recall by whom and for what purpose it existed (probably there was some spare Federal money lying around). But the gist of the study was that it didn't really matter what the crime rates were measured at - what mattered was the public perception of crime in determining how safe people felt in their neighborhoods.
Politicians pick up on this all the time. Republicans run as "tough on crime" by promising to build more prisons and increase the mandatory sentencing guidelines, run with great effect during the 1980's. Democrats had Clinton promising 100,000 new police on the street, most of which seem to have ended up in Community Policing and other "feel good" preventative type programs. In spite of all this and regardless of who was running the show, the real numbers were driven by such things as how many times you interacted with the police, heard about someone seeing the police around and how many times you saw the police in your neighborhood.
Hence, the cameras.
Cameras are not the police. However, the mayor (or the mayor's people) dress the cameras up in a uniform (white with a big old blue star on it), they put a flashing blue MARS light on top (just like a squad car), and they put it in a neighborhood where crime is prevalent.
Ta-da! The perception of police service! You think we're being overly simplistic? How many cameras did they just put up at Durkin Park?
Cameras are only as good as the system that runs them though and, wonder of wonders, we just heard that the servers that are supposed to be used for the cameras were only built to handle something like 50 cameras. They're currently running between 200 and 300 cameras and are really having some very bad technical issues. Someone closer to the source can tell us the real stories we're sure. It's supposed to be pretty sad.
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BANDWIDTH, BANDWITH, BANDWIDTH. The city ignored this little issue despite every tech-geek telling them otherwise. This problem was forseen years ago and now the city must deal with it.
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on. The workers get detailed to guard the Mayors Reverands backyard laundry lines. All of my sgts our merit and don’t have the balls to call the dogs out. Leuitenant-Merit! Captain- Merit! Commander-Merit! I live in fucking Meritland. I do more work in a period than these dogs have done in their hole career. I’m worn out from spending everyday at 26th Street and all night wearing out tires on my shitty 15 year old pool squad. I haven’t had a PDT that works since 04. WE LEAD THE NATION IN TECHNOLOGY! Yea right! Its time to get rid of all these fucked up units. Narcotics? Why? Tact teams can do that job. Those fuckers all work days & have take home cars. Do we need hundreds of coppers to spend 5 or 6 hours a day putting one baggers on dude? Unless they are the buy officer, then its 3 or 4 hours and done. A waist of a districts worth of manpower. SOS? Why? Is there a major problem at Portillos on Ontario? My friend that works in 018 says they have ten cars their everyday. Gang Intelligence? Why? More do nuthin suckholes with take home cars. I never got any intelligence from them. Do you? TRU? Why? Shouldn’t you be able to shave before you are in an elite unit? I work in the worst district in this city and we never see them. What the fuck do they do for 5 hours everyday. Why are their 1,000 pos assigned to the 1st and 18th district? Was their a crime wave at Wacker & Michigan nobody told me about? Is their any room for civilians in the restarants? How many detectives does it take to say you got nuthin? They could cut 200 of those dogs. Speaking of dogs how much clout do you need to walk a dog or ride a horse or drive a boat or any of the other bullshit jobs with detective pay. Don’t even get me started about the DOC and the FUSION CENTER. What the fuck are they fusing? Vinegar & Baking Soda? Day Gun Team-Afternoon Gun Team-Midnight Gang Team-Suckhole Team-Blow Job Team…WTF? Am I the last guy left in patrol? FOP? Where are they? That’s the fattest bunch of people I’ve ever met. Do we feed them to? We must be broke. To buzy eating on our dime to stand up for the workers. I’m know genuis but I know if I was the new Super weed have all these people back in patrol with the working ghetto police where they belong. But more important weed have all their equipment and the money thats spent on it to buy shit that works. We are the engine that drives this job and all we do is eat shit. I’m tired and I need some more bodies to help carry the load. Its time for a change!
video does take up alot of memory.
expect the amount of time the city keep the videos to drop.
i figure 24 hours, they will make patrol officer order the video as soon as a report is generated.
if they were on the ball they would start sending the video by emails. the email could go straight to the dicks.
ooopps i forgot we have no computer that can burn dvd's and they wont put cd burning program on company computers because the are scared of porn.
i wish the new supe good look we are going to need it
Smoke and mirrors my friend, smoke and mirrors......doesn't matter than NO ONE is watching those cameras, so the server is a NON issue!!
Well it's done,Charlie Williams is the next Superintendent:
Sneed Column July 24,2007
The police blotter: Rumor circulating among Chicago Police Department wags is Deputy Supt. Charles Williams has asked for packing boxes to be brought to his office. Hmmm. Does moving out mean moving up . . . to the top spot? Stay tuned.
Things have gone from absolutely horrible to abysmal now
Liberalism at its finest:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-trice_23jul23,0,4310480.column
Expansion of Middle Eastern War Coming Soon:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/130317
I heard the system is stressed because of all the gun shots the cameras are picking up.
I'm still waiting for that call,lol.
typical article by mary mitchell this morning, can somebody get the stats on 008's crime before and after the white flight on the east end and post it here and send it to her?
A certain watch commander (017th District, 2nd Watch) feels that her sitting in the watch commanders office watching the POD camera is just as good as having a physical assist unit on scene... This attitude is going to get a copper hurt.
Someone needs to disregard her over the air and ask for a unit on scene.....No more "Slow-Downs" from her over the air....
SCC you just become a whiney BITCH retire already!!!
Just 1 big news story in the Suntimes re: NO CARS AVAILABLE, a couple of lawsuits and maybe the City would get its head out of its ass.
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
You cant be real. With grammar like that you should be detailed to the janitor's closet.
Disregard any misspellings or lack of syntax and grammar, 11:22 PM is obviously writing from the heart.
The problem is when will Daley and the damn fools destroying the CPD listen!
I'd consider this as a poignant and desperate cry for help from the guys that are the very backbone of a department in crisis
CAPT BLONDY 2ND WATCH 017 DIST
YOUR MAKIN CAPT SHAKEY-ANDERSON 1ST WATCH START TO LOOK BETTER, KEEP IT UP AND YEAH REALLY WON'T MAKE EXEMPT.
P.S. YEAH I BET THE SUCK-UPS BACK YOUR CRAZYNESS, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO RETIRE !!!!!!!
http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2007/07/sun-times-mary-mitchell-ever-angry-one.html
Mary Mitchell does not do the facts.
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
DUDE chill out. I know it sucks here in patrol and you are right about the "UNITS" but you can always transfer to a different District if you are that unhappy in the one you are in now. This Department is not going to change, it's going to get worse. Transfer close to home and protect yourself and your family. Don't let this job take you to the grave. The brass or this City does not give a shit about you or the other working police. Think about yourself and your health first...
This whole country is going down the shitter very fast!!!
You have bad info. They cameras are stored off-site on a SAN that can hold up to 10,000 cameras and all the video interrogation clips.
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
You are an idiot that makes everyone else look bad. You poor baby, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, maybe you should quit.
sorry - off topic, but deal with it. There are are Detectives that do work, Gang Intelligence that do work, and so on and so on. You don't like it there, bid out. And if you don't have enough time to bid out, then screw you u whiny snot. The ones who should complain, the old timers, don't. They take this job for what it is..B.S. Maybe you could get into a unit too, but it sounds like you would b+%$# and moan that your take home car wasn't new enough. We have all been there and done that.
Re: MIKE METTE
Both of the consecutive Sunday John Kass columns (July 15 and 22) appear in their entirety in today's edition of Dubuque's Telegraph Herald.
See www.THonline.com
MMDF:jn
A certain watch commander (017th District, 2nd Watch) feels that her sitting in the watch commanders office watching the POD camera is just as good as having a physical assist unit on scene... This attitude is going to get a copper hurt.
BUT SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING....Just ask her
To the oldtimers working TSA, cause the college boys ain't getting it anyway......
I heard Big Bird wrote up a Sgt. at O'Hare Special for people not wearing vests. If you are working TSA, please bring and wear your vest in the proper outer garmet and have all the duty equipment on that the G.O.'s say you should. Like their webpage says, you will be sent home for not wearing it. I'm not working my RDO to lose a day because somebody was to lazy to dress properly.
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
Dear P.O. Einstein, next time you write a thousand word essay on how terrible you have it, try to spell more than every other word correctly.
HAY 11:22
Get over yourself & stop whinning: WA WA WA
Pay your dues with time on the job and BID to a slow district if that's what u want, just stop whining and "Man-up Women"!
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on. The workers get detailed to guard the Mayors Reverands backyard laundry lines. All of my sgts our merit and don’t have the balls to call the dogs out. Leuitenant-Merit! Captain- Merit! Commander-Merit! I live in fucking Meritland. I do more work in a period than these dogs have done in their hole career. I’m worn out from spending everyday at 26th Street and all night wearing out tires on my shitty 15 year old pool squad. I haven’t had a PDT that works since 04. WE LEAD THE NATION IN TECHNOLOGY! Yea right! Its time to get rid of all these fucked up units. Narcotics? Why? Tact teams can do that job. Those fuckers all work days & have take home cars. Do we need hundreds of coppers to spend 5 or 6 hours a day putting one baggers on dude? Unless they are the buy officer, then its 3 or 4 hours and done. A waist of a districts worth of manpower. SOS? Why? Is there a major problem at Portillos on Ontario? My friend that works in 018 says they have ten cars their everyday. Gang Intelligence? Why? More do nuthin suckholes with take home cars. I never got any intelligence from them. Do you? TRU? Why? Shouldn’t you be able to shave before you are in an elite unit? I work in the worst district in this city and we never see them. What the fuck do they do for 5 hours everyday. Why are their 1,000 pos assigned to the 1st and 18th district? Was their a crime wave at Wacker & Michigan nobody told me about? Is their any room for civilians in the restarants? How many detectives does it take to say you got nuthin? They could cut 200 of those dogs. Speaking of dogs how much clout do you need to walk a dog or ride a horse or drive a boat or any of the other bullshit jobs with detective pay. Don’t even get me started about the DOC and the FUSION CENTER. What the fuck are they fusing? Vinegar & Baking Soda? Day Gun Team-Afternoon Gun Team-Midnight Gang Team-Suckhole Team-Blow Job Team…WTF? Am I the last guy left in patrol? FOP? Where are they? That’s the fattest bunch of people I’ve ever met. Do we feed them to? We must be broke. To buzy eating on our dime to stand up for the workers. I’m know genuis but I know if I was the new Super weed have all these people back in patrol with the working ghetto police where they belong. But more important weed have all their equipment and the money thats spent on it to buy shit that works. We are the engine that drives this job and all we do is eat shit. I’m tired and I need some more bodies to help carry the load. Its time for a change!
You'll never be Supe the way you talk and spell but, to answer a few of your questions: Narcs does alot more than make a few bag buys a day, they do street corner conspiracies, long term investigations, interstate interdiction, etc. alot more complex than any narcotics expert on a tac team, Gang Intel also does long term investigations, COH wire cases, follows up on all shootings etc, and they do disseminate information, i've seen it plenty of times, SOS and TRU go to the busiest ghetto districts in the city and flood the area with officers, suppress shootings and make arrests, AREA 2, which encompasses the busiest ghetto districts in the city, have seen them all year, with no end in sight. I can't comment much on the DOC and the Fusion Center. 001 and 018 have so much manpower assigned to them to cover all the foot posts, bike posts, daily protests, (yes people are down there daily protesting something or another)small fests, park events, etc. You really just sound bitter because people seem to be doing better than you, get some time on the job, pay your dues and then bid to a nicer district, or interview for a unit, then you too can eat in all the restaurants you so crave. If you do have time on and still work in the ghetto district you are so proud of, then you have no one to blame but yourself.....
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in
THE WRITER OF THE ABOVE POST IS ON THE MARK. I AM A DICK AND I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT PATROL INVETIGATION SKILLS ARE NIL.
A GUY IN 11 CAUGHT 2 ROBBERY OFFNDERS. HE BROUGHT EVERY ONE IN GUESS WHAT THE VICTIM WALKED OUT THE OFFICER NEVER RETRIEVED THE VICTIMS INFO. EVERY WANT PART ONE BUT YOU CANT GET THEM WITH 2 LINE NARRATIVES LIKE " OFF 1 ADMITTED THAT HE STOLE THE WALLET."
WELL ANY WAYS DONT FEEL BAD USUALLY THE VICTIM DROPS THE BALL AND DOESNT SHOW UP TO COURT OR REFUSE TO VIEW A LINE UP.
WILLIAMS AS SUPE HUH. I WAS TALKING TO A WEST SIDE MINISTER AND HEARD HE IS MAKING HIS CALLS.
CAN I GET AN AMEN
From Mitchell's column today:
On the night of the fight, the Chicago Police Department and the city's 911 system failed miserably. It took 26 minutes for police to show up, and if it takes that long for police to respond to an emergency in this well-to-do neighborhood, I shudder to think how long it would have taken for them to show up in a poor one.
Sorry but if this incident happened in a poor area response would have been instant, why? because that is where all the police resources are sent, also the reason why law abiding area have minimal police service....
To: 11:22pm. If you don't like it, go work in a fucking north suburb you cry baby pussy. Your friend who bitches about Portillos being loaded up with sos cars can go fuck his cry baby ass too. Portillo grew up in my uncles neighborhood, he never said that he didn't want sos eating there. Your upset narcotics has take home cars, well isn't that too bad. Maybe if you were given a hug or two by your merit watch commander during roll call everything would be alright. It's just a job, relax, go have a drink a the J-Tap..........
Time for a break, office?
Out today in DVD: ZODIAC
Check out this movie based on the actual serial murders that terrorized the San Francisco Bay area circa 1970. "Zodiac" sent cryptic coded messages to local newspapers and taunted the police.
The Zodiac murders remain unsolved to this very day.
3 1/2 stars with two thumbs up.
s/the anonymous ad hoc SCC entertainment editor.
Just heard Starks on the radio he said the dept will do a lot more to discipline "ROGUE OFFICERS" great now with the new ops chick and williams as supt if you do any work more than the minimum you really need to see a doctor! This dept has morale so low in cannot get lower thanks to the smell from the top!
It's all too funny. Crimes occur right under the cameras, and guess what? The cameras, rotating through some computer-generated cycle, miss it!!! I wonder if the public knows that the cameras only record something useful about 5% of the time.
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
I think your exaggerating a little bit. what district are you in? even 003 we get TRU over here and lunch breaks. And if any one knows the history of 003... We all know certain units were told not to go there...
Yes, the camera dilemma. A dilemma (Greek δί-λημμα "double proposition") is a problem offering two solutions or possibilities, of which neither is acceptable. The two options are often described as the horns of a dilemma, neither of which is comfortable.
Cameras capture video of its coverage area. IF, someone sees it, then they can report any wrong doing observed. But, is there a car available?
Less officers in squads, because the powers to be believe the camera watchers will see and dispatch what officer(s) remain to the scene.
Minor dilemma, but major when there are more camera feeds to be viewed than there are viewers and less officers to dispatch if and when some wrong doing is viewed. Didn't the department send an alert that the Memorial was tagged? There is a camera there. Why the call for help? Wasn't anyone watching? If there is video, how many man hours will be spent analyzing and trying to identify the offenders?
Then there is the network issue. Believe me, the inmates are running the insane asylum known as CPD HQ. The larger insane asylum at 121 N LaSalle is quite happy with the yes men and women they have found to funnel money to all their friends. Hunker down and pray for relief. Bring on the outsider. Yea, like that's going to happen. He doesn't know who is supposed to get the checks and promotions.
Just wait and see what happens when someone dies in front of a camera begging for help, thinking it's like a real officer.
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on.
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DUDE RELAX GEEZ! WHY ARE YOU JEALOUS OF ALL THE UNITS? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ON ONE? I CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT YOUR PAPER LOOKS LIKE.."WEED"???DO YOU MEAN WE'D?
BUT YOU DO MAKE ALOT OF GOOD POINTS THERE ARE USELESS UNITS YES AND 85% OF THE OFFICERS ON THOSE UNITS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE..BUT FOR THE ONES WHO EARNED THE PERPS BUSTING THEIR HUMPS GOD BLESS EM. STOP WORRYING ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE AND WORRY ABOUT YOU AND THE COPPERS WORKING WITH YOU..ALSO I HAVENT SEEN A NEW PDT EITHER AND DOUBT I EVER WILL
Guys, I kid you not. You want to understand all this just read the book: Fixing Broken Windows by Kelling & Coles. Trust me, it's a good read.
These comments are from a 2005 article found at :
http://www.epic.org/privacy
/surveillance/spotlight/0505/
"Cities such as Baltimore, Chicago, and New Orleans have installed camera surveillance networks with financing from the federal government. Such cameras, which can $60,000 each, can be remotely controlled by police to pan, tilt, zoom and rotate; have day and night vision capabilities, and wireless technologies."
"Chicago has 2,250 cameras in its “Homeland Security Grid,” which DHS helped finance with a $5.1 million grant, and will be adding cameras in the next two years with funds from another $48 million grant from Homeland Security. By 2006, Chicago will have a 900-mile fiber-optic grid. The cameras are linked to a $43-million operations center constantly monitored by police officers."
But.....
"Several American cities looked to Great Britain’s surveillance system when developing their own. London has 200,000 cameras, and more than 4 million cameras have been deployed throughout the country. It is estimated that there is one camera for every 14 people. The average Briton is seen by 300 cameras per day, according to estimates. However, several studies have shown that these systems have very little effect on crime. In 2002, the British Home Office examined 22 camera surveillance systems in North America and the United Kingdom, and found that such systems had a small effect on crime. It is more effective to place more officers on the streets and improve lighting in high-crime areas."
"Studies have also shown that there is a serious risk of race discrimination with the use of camera surveillance networks. Black males are disproportionately scrutinized when such cameras systems are used.21 The National Association for the Criminal Rehabilitation of Offenders found race discrimination in the systems and stated “[w]hen certain sections of the community are disproportionately monitored, this not only acts to portray an impression of criminality amongst these groups (certain acts are noticed whilst other groups may be carrying out the same acts unmonitored and unnoticed), it also conveys a message to these individuals that they are not trusted.”"
Keep spending Richie, it's all about perception. And, getting your friends and family RICH RICH RICH!
If it is Williams, expect to work that full 8 1/2 hour day. Take your lunch.
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on. The workers get detailed to guard the Mayors Reverands backyard laundry lines. All of my sgts our merit and don’t have the balls to call the dogs out. Leuitenant-Merit! Captain- Merit! Commander-Merit! I live in fucking Meritland. I do more work in a period than these dogs have done in their hole career. I’m worn out from spending everyday at 26th Street and all night wearing out tires on my shitty 15 year old pool squad. I haven’t had a PDT that works since 04. WE LEAD THE NATION IN TECHNOLOGY! Yea right! Its time to get rid of all these fucked up units. Narcotics? Why? Tact teams can do that job. Those fuckers all work days & have take home cars. Do we need hundreds of coppers to spend 5 or 6 hours a day putting one baggers on dude? Unless they are the buy officer, then its 3 or 4 hours and done. A waist of a districts worth of manpower. SOS? Why? Is there a major problem at Portillos on Ontario? My friend that works in 018 says they have ten cars their everyday. Gang Intelligence? Why? More do nuthin suckholes with take home cars. I never got any intelligence from them. Do you? TRU? Why? Shouldn’t you be able to shave before you are in an elite unit? I work in the worst district in this city and we never see them. What the fuck do they do for 5 hours everyday. Why are their 1,000 pos assigned to the 1st and 18th district? Was their a crime wave at Wacker & Michigan nobody told me about? Is their any room for civilians in the restarants? How many detectives does it take to say you got nuthin? They could cut 200 of those dogs. Speaking of dogs how much clout do you need to walk a dog or ride a horse or drive a boat or any of the other bullshit jobs with detective pay. Don’t even get me started about the DOC and the FUSION CENTER. What the fuck are they fusing? Vinegar & Baking Soda? Day Gun Team-Afternoon Gun Team-Midnight Gang Team-Suckhole Team-Blow Job Team…WTF? Am I the last guy left in patrol? FOP? Where are they? That’s the fattest bunch of people I’ve ever met. Do we feed them to? We must be broke. To buzy eating on our dime to stand up for the workers. I’m know genuis but I know if I was the new Super weed have all these people back in patrol with the working ghetto police where they belong. But more important weed have all their equipment and the money thats spent on it to buy shit that works. We are the engine that drives this job and all we do is eat shit. I’m tired and I need some more bodies to help carry the load. Its time for a change!
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
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Is today the first day you actually looked around? Things have been this way forever and are never going to change. This department is full of supervisors who I wouldn't hire to run a Burger King let alone be a supervisor of police. I feel sorry for the good citizens who speak with these supervisors looking for answers, I can only imagine what they must think. All I can suggest is to go to work and to try and find a happy medium. Be the police if you feel the need, but don't kill yourself for the department and city. I realize that most of this department could care less about their work ethic, and isn't that just sad.
To: 7/23/07 11:23 PM
I hear your frustration. Shit man..I was the same way as you for a decade, there were times I felt as if I were the only ONE out there!
Just remember, there are a lot of us OUT THERE..NO CLOUT..Still doing it and getting shit on daily. I know more good officers than dog-ass officers on this job. But at some point, the system "beats you down" and you say to yourself "enough-is-enough!"
I am NOT a dog..But soon I will be just answering jobs, backing up other officers, and doing just enough to keep the worthless "merit hack" bosses off my ass..BECAUSE I TOO AM BURNED OUT AND TIRED!
FROM NOW ON IT IS ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY! I was selfless and dedicated and for busting my ass got nowhere.
Keep your head up..and stay safe!
Brian Cooper, the executive editor of Dubuque's Telegraph Herald newspaper has written an editorial in today's newspaper: "Columnist's crusade puts Dubuque in bull's-eye: Tribune writer takes up cause of off-duty Chicago policeman"
Go to www.THonline.com
Click on News>Opinion.
In addition, both of John Kass' consecutive Sunday (7/15 + 7/22) columns appear in their entirety in today's Telegraph Herald.
MMDF:jn
This guy had it right.
Jonathan Schachter on "Preventing Crime and Terrorism with Cameras"
October 13, 2006
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley says he plans to equip almost all of the city's street corners with surveillance cameras in an effort to boost chances for a bid for the 2016 Olympics. Jonathan Schacter is a lecturer in public policy at Northwestern University and says most studies indicate that cameras are not decreasing the amount of crime…
SCHACHTER: Crime is simply moving to places where it can't be seen…either outside of the camera's range or other areas where there are no cameras.
Schachter says poor resolution on cameras often make it difficult to present video as evidence in court…
SCHACHTER: In Baltimore, for example, where they have cameras….the Maryland Attorney General's office said that of the 500 cases that were submitted for prosecution, about 40 percent were either dropped or dismissed.
Schachter believes cameras can lead to a false sense of security…
SCHACHTER: It creates the illusion that the eyes of law enforcement authorities are everywhere when they are not. I think what that does it that it fosters a sense in the public that they don't have to be as vigilant…that somebody else is watching their backs for them.
Schachter believes cameras can often play into the agenda of terrorists…
SCHACHTER: Having cameras around potential terrorist targets ensures that terrorists acts themselves will get the coverage that terrorists seek. Getting their message out and scaring a lot of people is one of the primary goals of terrorist groups everywhere.
This guy is a former OEMC employee from the Huberman days there.
A former police officer accused in the videotaped beating of a man in the French Quarter after Hurricane Katrina was acquitted Tuesday by a judge who heard the case without a jury.
"I didn't even find this a close call," said District Judge Frank Marullo.
Robert Evangelist, 37, had been charged with beating Robert Davis, 66, during an arrest videotaped by an Associated Press Television News crew the night of Oct. 8, 2005, about six weeks after Katrina.
Evangelist, who elected to have his case heard by Marullo without a jury, pleaded not guilty to second-degree battery and false imprisonment. Marullo acquitted him of both counts.
Marullo watched videotapes of the beating and its aftermath and he noted that Davis could be seen struggling on the tape for several minutes.
"This event could have ended at any time if the man had put his hands behind his back," the judge said.
I found this on the NYPD Rant and think that it truly captures the essence of the job and the "changes" that have occurred,most for the worst. If you substitute CPD for NYPD and change some of the jargon it rings true. It was written by SquadSgt, screen name on NYPD Rant.
I Mourn for the NYPD
I mourn for the NYPD of my youth. In the mid-eighties, many of the seasoned veterans that I came in contact with told me about "The Good Old Days". They told me how great it was to be a New York City cop in 1966 (and for some real old-timers with thirty years on the job, what it was like in 1956. They would often comment on how the job had changed over the years. They were happy that they were retiring, and couldn't stand to think what the job would be like when I would be the old-timer. Nevertheless, I went to work everyday. I sat on D.O.A.'s, hospitalized prisoners, and E.D.P.'s., I flew to details, and felt fortunate when I stayed in the command, and walked a foot post, or rode in an R.M.P. for the tour. All in all, I think back at that time and find myself referring to "it" as "The Good Old Days" (And they truly were)..
We were fortunate enough to be allowed to be "Cops", and we were taught how to handle almost any situation without getting the boss involved. The Sgt.'s were "king" and together with the Lt.'s (when they were available) were allowed to run the command as they saw fit. I remember driving the boss one day, and him telling me that unless we were responding to a 10-13 or other heavy job in progress, to make sure that we always arrived to the job after the assigned M.O.S. could "handle things" as they saw fit. The Captain's all worked M-F from 9-5, and very rarely came out of their office, except to attend a community meeting or address roll call occasionally, and Compstat wasn't even born yet..
Collars were made, and summonses were written "when appropriate". October Collars brought Christmas Dollars, and many of us made collars for dollars. The 9 squad chart allowed everybody to get to work with each other, and we "policed" ourselves, ensuring that each sector (or foot post) handled their respective assignments. Those that goofed off, soon found subtle reminders from the others on how to properly handle their jobs. They didn't goof off often, and certainly not repeatedly.
The job was definitely tighter back then as well. We came to work to be with our friends, and all to often didn't take a day off, because we didn't want to miss anything that happened at work (or when we went out afterwards). 4x12's were 4x4's. Sundays were considered "a cops day", and we all understood the meaning of what is was like to work in a "paramilitary organization". We all wore one uniform too! There were not different variations of dress, everywhere we turned. I am not talking about issues like cargo pants, and boots that make sense depending upon your assignment. I am talking about cops not never being caught dead wearing skull caps or knit hats like I see many of today's cops wearing. "Out of uniform", usually meant that a guy was wearing a short sleeve shirt before the weather warmed up prior to them being authorized, not the guy that chose to wear whatever he felt like on that particular day.
Recruitment & retention problems did not exist either. Granted we didn't make a fortune, but we were higher paid than Nassau, Suffolk, Port Authority and the New York State Troopers, all of whom surpassed us over the years. You took the test because your friends and family who were already on the job, told you that it was a job worth taking. Similarly, you passed that information on to your friends and family as well, and were happy for them when they too were sworn in. Now, nobody in their right minds would refer this job to a friend or family member.
All in all, as I sit here in the twilight of my career, I am glad that I will be retiring soon. I could not bare to think about being a rookie in today's police force, and I wonder if the cops retiring in 2026 will think back upon 2006 as "The Good Old Days", and how they will describe "The Job" to those rookies at that time.
I can honestly say that I don't hate this job. I actually love this job, unfortunately, it is the department that has ruined things for me over the years. It is the department that I have mixed feelings for. It is "The City of New York", not New York City that treats us with disdain.
All that being said, I mourn for the NYPD of my youth!
SquadSgt-NYPD Rant
Why do the posters that refer to SCC as a whiner,etc. read the site and continue to post?
It certaintly appears,that you are an exempt with an agenda,that being to discredit a very invaluable tool to the CPD.
Comment regarding Mike Mette. Found the following article on the web site www.lineofduty.com. The Dubuge County Attorney, in response to all the negative attention it has been receiving, issued a "Open letter to the citizens of Doubuque county and the City of Chicago". This is the link:
http://dubuquecounty.org/offices/countyattorney/reponse_to_mette_trial.pdf
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on. The workers get detailed to guard the Mayors Reverands backyard laundry lines. All of my sgts our merit and don’t have the balls to call the dogs out. Leuitenant-Merit! Captain- Merit! Commander-Merit! I live in fucking Meritland. I do more work in a period than these dogs have done in their hole career. I’m worn out from spending everyday at 26th Street and all night wearing out tires on my shitty 15 year old pool squad. I haven’t had a PDT that works since 04. WE LEAD THE NATION IN TECHNOLOGY! Yea right! Its time to get rid of all these fucked up units. Narcotics? Why? Tact teams can do that job. Those fuckers all work days & have take home cars. Do we need hundreds of coppers to spend 5 or 6 hours a day putting one baggers on dude? Unless they are the buy officer, then its 3 or 4 hours and done. A waist of a districts worth of manpower. SOS? Why? Is there a major problem at Portillos on Ontario? My friend that works in 018 says they have ten cars their everyday. Gang Intelligence? Why? More do nuthin suckholes with take home cars. I never got any intelligence from them. Do you? TRU? Why? Shouldn’t you be able to shave before you are in an elite unit? I work in the worst district in this city and we never see them. What the fuck do they do for 5 hours everyday. Why are their 1,000 pos assigned to the 1st and 18th district? Was their a crime wave at Wacker & Michigan nobody told me about? Is their any room for civilians in the restarants? How many detectives does it take to say you got nuthin? They could cut 200 of those dogs. Speaking of dogs how much clout do you need to walk a dog or ride a horse or drive a boat or any of the other bullshit jobs with detective pay. Don’t even get me started about the DOC and the FUSION CENTER. What the fuck are they fusing? Vinegar & Baking Soda? Day Gun Team-Afternoon Gun Team-Midnight Gang Team-Suckhole Team-Blow Job Team…WTF? Am I the last guy left in patrol? FOP? Where are they? That’s the fattest bunch of people I’ve ever met. Do we feed them to? We must be broke. To buzy eating on our dime to stand up for the workers. I’m know genuis but I know if I was the new Super weed have all these people back in patrol with the working ghetto police where they belong. But more important weed have all their equipment and the money thats spent on it to buy shit that works. We are the engine that drives this job and all we do is eat shit. I’m tired and I need some more bodies to help carry the load. Its time for a change!
7/23/2007 11:22:00 PM
Dam straight! The above commentary is a little bit rough around the edges but he is exactly correct.
Patrol does 95% of the work on this job but only gets 35% of the resources.
The next Sup needs to do the right thing and fix all of the damage Phil did to the patrol division.
The "Perception of Crime"
SCC,keep exposing what passes for truth. Those who despise you,fear you.
"Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it."
-Adolf Hitler
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
-Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda Expert
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself... Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable."
-H.L. Mencken, American Writer
"Truth never damages a cause that is just"
-Mohandas Gandhi
"Behind the visible government there is an invisible government upon the throne that owes the people no loyalty and recognizes no responsibility. To destroy this invisible government, to undo the ungodly union between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the task of a statesman."
-Theodore Roosevelt
"In an age of deceit, the mere telling of truth is a revolutionary act."
-George Orwell
"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool."
-Plato
What is the Federal statute of limitations on Civil Rights Violations? 5 years
Why are the People's Law Office and Flint Taylor seeking criminal charges on "alleged" misconduct that occurred well over 20 years ago?
Why is this even being entertained in the media and by the City Council?
The City Council is listening to "alleged" allegations of misconduct that occurred in 1973.
Bill Parker has been retired from the Chicago Police Department for 17 years but still vividly recalls the torture he witnessed? Yeah right, Parker waits 34 years to tell someone and has a perfect recollection 34 years later? BS, how much is the PLO paying him?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5507678
I am a frequent visitor to the blog. I am often amused. Today I realized the talent of some of the bloggers and the responses to current issues. We need to exploit this talent. The politicians and the bosses should be very afraid. The laptop is very mighty.
I'll take Mike L., Harold B. or SCC anyday.
FREE MIKE!!!!
orry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in RAP from roll call to check off. I’ve been denied lunch almost everyday since May. Most days I have to handle all the jobs in my sector. The dogs stay down for hours on bullshit…tire change, assist a citizen, and on and on. The workers get detailed to guard the Mayors Reverands backyard laundry lines. All of my sgts our merit and don’t have the balls to call the dogs out. Leuitenant-Merit! Captain- Merit! Commander-Merit! I live in fucking Meritland
ANOTHER SOFTBALL. GET A LIFE FOOL
Just 1 big news story in the Suntimes re: NO CARS AVAILABLE, a couple of lawsuits and maybe the City would get its head out of its ass.
7/24/2007 10:18:00 AM
Dream on my friend! are you going to sue?
Gee 11:22pm---I sympathize with you, but where did you get your education? Learn to spell for chris-sake.
The only thing good about CW in charge will be the weeping and gnashing of teeth of all the connected white shirt/ white guys. I hope Charlie puts the screws to them all. We blue shirts are screwed anyway, it would just be fun to see these clout strokes get ass pounded too for a change. I've been the police a long time and the black bosses usually have a MUCH better grasp of reality then the A-hole white guys that think they earned it.
ACLU says: If cameras discriminate, put black cameras in black hoods and white cameras in white hoods....problem solved.
I have an observation. Under Phil Cline “specialized units” in the Department have increased what, ten fold. Can anyone deny this? Phil Cline has treated patrol like a red headed stepchild. Gang intelligence, DOC. TRU, just to name a few. Sap patrol for these units because patrol does nothing anyway. How many PO’s were taken from patrol for these newly formed units? Charles Williams has made statements to mimic Phil Clines attitude toward patrol. But it’s not just these two. Attitude from most a lot of bosses is patrol is only there to answer jobs otherwise we are useless. Take a look around see what other bosses think of patrol thru their actions. Area Chiefs- they have the gun teams and the afternoon saturation teams as well as the Midnight saturation team, how many PO’s for these teams? District Commanders- they have the Tact teams and gang teams and now the Midnight tactical team, once again how many PO’s? In my district 009 the watch commander on the third watch has the B-team, which does not get jobs, how many PO’s on that? But then when something like Durkin Park happens these same bosses point at patrol and say “U guys aren’t doing your jobs, Why were you in a backlog”? That right keep sapping patrol for all these other units and then turn to those of us who are left manning the beat cars, shorthanded and call us dogs for being in a backlog. But you can never explain why we are in a backlog to a boss but they just don’t get it!
to 7/24, 0:7:03 am...an excellent question...so, the issue is..going back in time (5/10 years, maybe?), let's examine demographics (or changes in same), crime rates, calls for service, police personnel staffing, real estate sales data, etc.....publish all of the data in a comprehensive overview, without editorialzing, or expressing an opinion....just put the numbers out there, let folks form their own opinion...
To 11:22 p.m. Hey buddy we all feel the same way. I used to get bothered by all the BS daily notices, clout promotions, and the different standards for different folks policies, but I now just brush it off and take care of myself and my family. I came to realize that the job has long been destroyed and will only get worse and there's nothing I can do. The city and the department killed the Police and morale will keep sinking. I now just try to stay invisible and go home without thinking about the great job that used to be. GOD BLESS!
I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car. I'm not kidding we saw him drive to work in it wearing his full uniform with his black vest cover on. He parked it in the lot and jumped in beat 2311. This car is a Ford Crown Vic with a fake antena on the trunk, spot light attached to the drivers side(like many police cars) and the best part is he has a blue emergency light mounted in the front window. This guy is a P.O. like the rest of us and drives a car like this. WOW!! I thought I have seen it all when it comes to softballs on this job, but this takes the cake.
I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car. I'm not kidding we saw him drive to work in it wearing his full uniform with his black vest cover on. He parked it in the lot and jumped in beat 2311. This car is a Ford Crown Vic with a fake antena on the trunk, spot light attached to the drivers side(like many police cars) and the best part is he has a blue emergency light mounted in the front window. This guy is a P.O. like the rest of us and drives a car like this. WOW!! I thought I have seen it all when it comes to softballs on this job, but this takes the cake.
Evidently, you've never met Jimmy L in 010. His SUV is tricked out with that plus state police radio radios, full scanners, and a full set up that can contact NORAD in the event of an emergency. When the built the new 911 center, he got the entire radio console from Zone 10 and rewired it at home so it's fully functional!
Jimmy! Is Ignorant-fest still running? Love the parties big guy.
Listen up, CAPS is this. It's all perception, if the people think 2+2=5 then thats the reality.
Anonymous said...
I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car. I'm not kidding we saw him drive to work in it wearing his full uniform with his black vest cover on. He parked it in the lot and jumped in beat 2311. This car is a Ford Crown Vic with a fake antena on the trunk, spot light attached to the drivers side(like many police cars) and the best part is he has a blue emergency light mounted in the front window. This guy is a P.O. like the rest of us and drives a car like this. WOW!! I thought I have seen it all when it comes to softballs on this job, but this takes the cake.
Evidently, you've never met Jimmy L in 010. His SUV is tricked out with that plus state police radio radios, full scanners, and a full set up that can contact NORAD in the event of an emergency. When the built the new 911 center, he got the entire radio console from Zone 10 and rewired it at home so it's fully functional!
Jimmy! Is Ignorant-fest still running? Love the parties big guy.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
who cares it looks like we have more police then! they must really like being the police! Guess you can take the job with you!
1:35 AM
CAPS WORKS!
CAMERAS...
I tried watching a camera on the district desk. They don't work right, you can't make out anyone or barely anything. And you can't control them. They do not move where you point them it is like a delayed reaction. Try looking at them at night. To much glare. Good waste of more money once again.
And by the way what is up with all the new OEMC Ford SUV's driving around? We need squad cars that work. When was the last time you saw and OEMC vehicle responding to job? What a joke!!!
All the con-man Revs. are pushing for CW for Sup.
Maybe they will make him an honorary Rev.
The Rev. Supt. CW! Has a nice ring to it, right?
CLOUT BOY said...
Sorry off topic. But I gotta say this city is bullshit. I’m a no-clout P.O. working in the fastest ghetto district in the city. I’m tired of being in
THE WRITER OF THE ABOVE POST IS ON THE MARK. I AM A DICK AND I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT PATROL INVETIGATION SKILLS ARE NIL.
A GUY IN 11 CAUGHT 2 ROBBERY OFFNDERS. HE BROUGHT EVERY ONE IN GUESS WHAT THE VICTIM WALKED OUT THE OFFICER NEVER RETRIEVED THE VICTIMS INFO. EVERY WANT PART ONE BUT YOU CANT GET THEM WITH 2 LINE NARRATIVES LIKE " OFF 1 ADMITTED THAT HE STOLE THE WALLET."
WELL ANY WAYS DONT FEEL BAD USUALLY THE VICTIM DROPS THE BALL AND DOESNT SHOW UP TO COURT OR REFUSE TO VIEW A LINE UP.
WILLIAMS AS SUPE HUH. I WAS TALKING TO A WEST SIDE MINISTER AND HEARD HE IS MAKING HIS CALLS.
CAN I GET AN AMEN
7/24/2007 03:22:00 PM
You sound like you were a clout promotion. You can't even write a sentence.
Anonymous said...
I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car. I'm not kidding we saw him drive to work in it wearing his full uniform with his black vest cover on. He parked it in the lot and jumped in beat 2311. This car is a Ford Crown Vic with a fake antena on the trunk, spot light attached to the drivers side(like many police cars) and the best part is he has a blue emergency light mounted in the front window. This guy is a P.O. like the rest of us and drives a car like this. WOW!! I thought I have seen it all when it comes to softballs on this job, but this takes the cake.
Evidently, you've never met Jimmy L in 010. His SUV is tricked out with that plus state police radio radios, full scanners, and a full set up that can contact NORAD in the event of an emergency. When the built the new 911 center, he got the entire radio console from Zone 10 and rewired it at home so it's fully functional!
Jimmy! Is Ignorant-fest still running? Love the parties big guy.
7/25/2007 12:47:00 AM
who cares it looks like we have more police then! they must really like being the police! Guess you can take the job with you!
7/25/2007 02:03:00 AM
He was patroling the streets of D.C. this last May at the police Memorial with that white SUV of his. What an embarrisment
To SCC and every other REAL POLICE out there: you people ought to take the 7/23/2007 11:22:00pm post
and print it and FRAME IT ON A WALL
for all the desk assholes to read while they "suck up"; and all the special unit police that "work" 4 hours at most per day...too bad Cline doesn't read this blog, he might get an idea of how bad he fucked up this department...all the dicks will do, is laugh at the grammatical errors and mis-spellings, and then steal a pinch..
Quote of the year: " I live in meritland"...!!!!!!!
If it is Williams, expect to work that full 8 1/2 hour day. Take your lunch.
7/24/2007 06:50:00 PM
Also expect to be off a team if youre on one now. Tact will stay, but these robbery, burglary, and other 'specialized' teams in various districts are GONE DADDY GONE!!!
I don't believe we can have emergency lights in our personal cars. Anyway why would you want to? I don't even have a FOP sticker or anything police on my car.
To the poster about The Reader...
The Readere was sold to the people who publish Creative Loafing out of Tampa. You'll love Creative Loafing. Sorta like the Smoking Gun, Onion, etc...
I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car............
It's your turn to deal w/ him this time!!!!
......I know many won't believe this because it sounds so soft, but there is a P.O. working midnights in 023 on a beat car that has his personal car looking like a unmarked police car. I'm not kidding we saw him drive to work in it wearing his full uniform with his black vest cover on.................
Sounds like E.V. from 013. Cuckoo!!
"...and that rat..Juan..."
"bitches, bitches, punk bitch bitches all of you are bitches..."
"...pull over, run that plate.."
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