$27,000 Dog?
- City officials in Chicago have agreed to pay $27,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a West Side man who said police shot and killed his dog last year while chasing a suspect.
- In the lawsuit he filed last February, Calvin Hale alleged that a police officer ran into his yard during the chase and stumbled on his 10-year-old Akita, Lady. He said the officer shot the dog and then continued the chase.
- City officials have acknowledged the settlement, but declined to comment further. They admit no wrongdoing in the settlement.
Someone brought this up in previous comments, but isn't a dog considered property? And therefore, the City's liability is capped at a much lower number than $27,000 (the comment quoted $250 or so). What gives?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
68 Comments:
I'll let you kill my dog for about 25 large. Let me know!!!
Its about time. . . why should this dog have been deprived of its life and this man be deprived of his companion because a policeman decided to chase a bad guy through the owner's lot and the dog did what dogs do - he defended his territory. A good dog is worth far more that $250.00 and even if the P.O. did nothing wrong and no one is saying he did, the owner deserves to be compensated for his loss.
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
Shot a dog on a search warrant.
City payd out five hundred for the dog, no damages for the forced entry.
Go figure, this occurred five years ago
As a police officer and a dog lover, fairness cries out WHY did the officer shoot the man's beloved pet?
How do you put a price on a man's best friend? If anyone killed my beloved people-loving mutt, I would not only be emotionally distraught, I'd want justice and $27 grand ain't enough.
When are the people in Lincoln & Jefferson Park going to catch on to the free money the city gives away?
Start telling your friends to just make up shit, and get at least $25,000 with no chance of being counter sued.
HELL, tell your kids to sell drugs, when they get caught the judge will set them loose, when they are being arrested fight take a couple of hits from a justified strike, and they'll get a payout from the city for getting to hit and be hit by an officer.
9/23/2007 11:02 PM
Whatever Michael Vick....
10:49 PM
You're about as funny as leukemia.
I got home from work about five minutes ago and my dog has chewed my furniture to bits. I just choked it out for free.
To 9/23/2007 11:02:00 PM
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
Are you suggesting that you would do something to an officer that shot your dog while that officer was doing their job? You statement sounds very threatening
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
9/23/2007 11:02:00 PM
You are a loser
This is what happens when you have liberals running the city. I'd even say give him $5,000 for emotional distress. But three times that...come on. Just shows you the retards we have in our law dept. They are afraid of going to court on any lawsuit. Makes me wonder who hires these lawyers.
11:02pm,
The policeman did not "decide" to chase a bad guy thru someone's yard. The bad guy chose that route and the officer was just doing his job by pursuing him. By the way, I hope he caught the guy. Anyway, I assume that the officer must have felt threatened by the dog and shot it to protect himself. I feel sorry for the owner, and agree with you that he should be compensated for the loss of his K9 buddy. But $27k seems a bit excessive to me though.
This dog was the baby's daddy to 57 different puppies with 7 different female dogs. So the settlement was to aid the 57 fatherless off-springs. And even though these puppies weren't full breeds, the Mayor offered all these puppies free AKC papers. The Mayor was quoted as saying, these puppies are just like the illegal aliens that flock to our great city to do hard work and raise a family, just because they are illegal aliens doesn't mean we can't accept them as Chicago citizens. The Mayor continued on to say, many of these puppies graduated a two week mail correspondence dog traing class, just like how our police supt. got his G.E.D. They need to be respected and helped during this traumatic experience.
Additionally the Mayor had a proclamation that Sept 29, 2007 be Puppies without Daddy Day. Hidden in this City Counsil measure was the OK to move the Children's Museum to Grant Park. The silly Aldermen who didn't read the full document, passed the resolution 50 to 0.
This is one slick Mayor! You have to admit. Oh by the way, the Mayor still wants to discontinue medical health insurance for retired coppers and firemen in 2012. Guess we aren't worth are weight like a ghetto dog is.
You think its cheap to bury a cop killed dog in a caddilac? Do you, Mr. Fluky Stokes? And I heard they are naming a street after the dog too, part of the deal. I guess my new address will be 10411 South Rough Rufus Memorial Lane. Please note that for the upcoming Christmas card list.
Funny you mentioned this, I saw a female dog dressed in all black mourning clothes at Howard Orloff Imports, purchasing a new Jaguar, in cash today. Had a t-shirt on with a picture of a dog on the front that read R.I.P. Spot "cash Cow" Johnson.
I say give the man the money, all $27,000.00 then fine him $28,000 for no dog city license and no rabies tags. Bingo, we are up $1,000.00
Ask your canine guys how much a good dog is worth. I'll bet they think it's closer to $27,000 than $250.
I say: Let the judgement stand!
They city should pay a standard $27,000 on every mutt killed by the police, canine or human
This would save us some dough
It must have been Triumph The Insult Comic Dog. That much money must include lost wages.
I believe generally speaking, a dog (and yes I am a dog lover) is property and only worth it's replacement value here in NE. However, you could wind up paying way more than that if you injure the dog and the vet fees start adding up. One of my dogs was attacked in my yard by an unleashed mastiff. Vet bills came to about $1000.
"Someone brought this up in previous comments, but isn't a dog considered property? And therefore, the City's liability is capped at a much lower number than $27,000 (the comment quoted $250 or so)."
IANAL but Illinois animal cruelty law changed about ?three? years ago; this is the current language pertaining to civil actions and compensation for an animal that was subject to aggravated cruelty or torture (definition of aggravated cruelty: No person may intentionally commit an act that causes a companion animal to suffer serious injury or death):
Damages may include, but are not limited to, the monetary value of the animal, veterinary expenses incurred on behalf of the animal, any other expenses incurred by the owner in rectifying the effects of the cruelty, pain, and suffering of the animal, and emotional distress suffered by the owner. In addition to damages that may be proven, the owner is also entitled to punitive or exemplary damages of not less than $500 but not more than $25,000 for each act of abuse or neglect to which the animal was subjected.
Totally agreed with 04:22:00 a good working dog is worth (and probably costs) at least $27K.
Not sure how this situation fits into the definition of aggravated cruelty given by the statute either; except was it really necessary to shoot the dog and you really can't tell from the info given.
You dog people are whacked. I like dogs as much as the next guy, but.....Seriously, get over it. What a freaking waste of taxpayer money paying some shithead $27,000 for a dead dog. Reimburse the person for the purchase price of the dog, after all it is a piece of property you purchase. If you decide to fall in love with your dog, let it lick your face after it licks it's balls and ass and let it share your bed with you, that's your issue!FREAKS!!!!!!!
Another daley greatest moment! NOTE TO DOG POUND BE ON ALERT FOR PEOPLE ADOPTING TO MANY DOGS AT ONCE, ADOPT DOGS CALL THE POPO THEN TELL THEM THE "MAN WITH A GUN" IS IN THE BACKYARD POPO GOES BACK DOGS ARE THERE BANG THEN 27K PER DOG! "WOWS I JUSTS WON THE LOTTO, GOT TA GETS ME MORE DOGGIES"!
THE K9 DOG MAY be worth that amount due to training costs and nothing else. the 10 year old japanise war dog that the p.o. tripped over probably weighed in close to 200 lbs. if you ever saw one of these dogs pissed off you would shoot it too ! this is unfortunate but 27,000.00.....W T F
MY DOG IS WORTH MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE.
THE DOGS FAMILY SAYS THAT THE DOG DROPPED OUT OF CANINE SCHOOL BUT WAS PLANNING TO RETURN AND WANTED TO BECOME A DOCTOR,WITNESSES ON SCENE ARE SAYING THAT THE POLICE OFFICER HANDCUFFED THE DOG MADE HIM BEG FOR HIS LIFE THEN SHOT HIM AND DIDNT EVEN CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE
DONT WORRY ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN I SAW IT IN A MOVIE
the city's law department rocks. notttt.
daley - come lick the toe jams out of my stinky feet.
I think the value of the dog + $5,000 emotional distress. It's a shame the copper had to kill the dog but he was doing his job chasing the bad guy. Shame the dog didn't have a chance to grab the offender by the nuts and hold him for the cop.
Anonymous said...
I got home from work about five minutes ago and my dog has chewed my furniture to bits. I just choked it out for free.
9/23/2007 11:38:00 PM
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You are one sick fuck, even if this is a joke...you are one sick fuck.......get some help.
Anonymous said...
Its about time. . . why should this dog have been deprived of its life and this man be deprived of his companion because a policeman decided to chase a bad guy through the owner's lot and the dog did what dogs do - he defended his territory. A good dog is worth far more that $250.00 and even if the P.O. did nothing wrong and no one is saying he did, the owner deserves to be compensated for his loss.
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
9/23/2007 11:02:00 PM
YEAH OK SGT STEVE BROWNSTEIN IN 025, I WISH YOU SPENT AS MUCH TIME AND ENERGY SERVICING THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF CHICAGO AS YOU SPEND CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMALS. YOU ARE A TOTAL WASTE OF TAX MONEY, DID YOU JOIN THIS POLICE DEPT. WITH THE INTENT OF POLICING FOR DOGS? WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE!!! I WONDER WHAT A REAL STROKE YOU MUST HAVE BEEN TO BE BOUNCED OUT OF A DREAM JOB LIKE THE ANIMAL CRUELTY UNIT ONLY TO CONTINUE YOUR AGENDA AT A DISTRICT. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS UNIFORM, JUST ANOTHER REASON TO DO 20 AND OUT!!!
The city is a joke. 27,000 for a dog....no wonder these broke fucks hope for ops with dollar signs in their eyes.
While I don't have record, I've met more than a few cops. I've also met a lot of dogs. The dogs are far and a way better creatures than most cops.
And judging by the callous comments posted here, and the absolute disreagard for "civilians" cops seem to harbor, I don't see that changing much.
That should disturb you guys: I'm a white, middle class professional with NO criminal history, and you've lost me. We don't see you guys as the "good guys" anymore. The more military you act, and the more black "tactical" crap you hang on your armor makes you look more like an invading army than civil authorities.
Im going to the pound right now for my payout puppy.
The court needs to impose the fine on the offender the p.o. was chasing. Say 27,000 hours of swap picking up dog crap at the park and cleaning dog cages out at animal welfare.
Hey PETA Wackos! The OFFENDER made the CHOICE to run. If he then TRESPASSED with officers in pursuit, it's the OFFENDER who fucked up, NOT THE OFFICERS.
I have a Dog too that I love, but to say "because a policeman decided to chase a bad guy through the owner's lot" and typing it WITHOUT THINKING is fucked up.
Clearly some suit ran the numbers, figured that if this went to court, the total cost/liability would have been considerably more than $27K. So they settled.
It's trivial to google recent incidents (not just in Chicago) where LE has gone out of their way to shoot a "family pet", even when it was clearly unnecessary.
The U.S. Supreme Court has declared that an unreasonable meaningful interference with or destruction of personal property is a violation of the Fourth Amendment even when an officer is acting pursuant to a warrant.
I COULD SEE A COUPON FOR A NEW DOG AND A LIFE TIME WAIVER ON CITY DOG TAGS.
THE CORP COUNCIL SUCKS.
HEY 11:02
WHY DON'T YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS TRY AND GET YOURSELVES SOME GIRLFRIENDS. THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN HANGING OUT IN YOUR MOMS BASEMENT AND WATCHING SCI FI ON YOUR RDO.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I'LL UN LOAD ALL 8 ROUNDS OF SIG-220 IN SOME SOME MUTT INSTEAD OF RISKING RABIES, POSSIBLE NERVE DAMAGE, OR STICHES FROM A BITE. THE MAJORITY OF THESE DOGS AINT RAISED IN LOVING HOMES ANYHOW. SO IT COMES AS NO SUPPRISE TO HEAR THAT A P.O. KILLED A DOG.
ACTUALLY THE POST TO 1102 ABOUT GETTING A GIRLFRIEND WAS MEANT FOR 12:18
I know a few FAMOUS DOG KILLERS from the Grand/Central 025 district..thank god the lawsuits did'nt find them.
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
SHUT UP LEAVIT!
Anonymous said...
THE DOGS FAMILY SAYS THAT THE DOG DROPPED OUT OF CANINE SCHOOL BUT WAS PLANNING TO RETURN AND WANTED TO BECOME A DOCTOR,WITNESSES ON SCENE ARE SAYING THAT THE POLICE OFFICER HANDCUFFED THE DOG MADE HIM BEG FOR HIS LIFE THEN SHOT HIM AND DIDNT EVEN CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE
9/24/2007 10:00:00 AM
lol
nothing but eating, shiting and barking machines.
CANT TELL U HOW MANY PO'S I WORK WITH AND ASK THEM U GOT FAMILY AND THEY FLICK OPEN THEIR CELL PHONES AND SHOW ME A PIC OF A DOG. DOG LOVERS ARE A SICK BREED THEMSELVES.
I asked that question to a Personal Injury attorney. Illinois law has changed. Dogs used to be considered property and that 250.00 other bloggers site was what courts typically awarded to killed pets. Today, the legislature says people are entitled to emotional damages and suffereing and loss of companionship.
To 9/23/2007 11:38:00 PM
Yeah you choked one out but what about your dog?
That should disturb you guys: I'm a white, middle class professional with NO criminal history, and you've lost me. We don't see you guys as the "good guys" anymore. The more military you act, and the more black "tactical" crap you hang on your armor makes you look more like an invading army than civil authorities.
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will you lose the idea of calling 911 ever. Thanks. How about going and hanging out in a high crime area.
To: 9/24/2007 12:59:00 PM
Get over yourself. You could never do what we do. Walk a day in our shoes for a day and see if you have this philosophy. You'll probably end up peeing your pants or something. If you don't support us, then who will you support, the gangbangers? We are the ones that are keeping the gangbangers away from your house. Although, with your attitude, you'd probably invite them in your house for tea and discuss why they do what they do. Then they would shoot you and steal you stuff. But, heaven forbid you support the police anymore. Go F#$% yourself civilian. We keep it safe at home so that you can act like you do.
Anonymous said...
I got home from work about five minutes ago and my dog has chewed my furniture to bits. I just choked it out for free.
9/23/2007 11:38:00 PM
Anonymous said...
DONT WORRY ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN I SAW IT IN A MOVIE
Anonymous said...
Im going to the pound right now for my payout puppy.
9/24/2007 01:20:00 PM
lmao!!!!thanks, these are 2 funny!!!!!, hahahahahahahaha oooohoooohhhhhh, hahahahaha
dear 12:59, or mr. white, middle class, professional with on criminal history. as a city copper i can tell you that your race, class status, job history or criminal record has nothing to do with the disregard any of us might have for you. I give everyone I come into contact with a chance, a first impression and my disregard comes directly from how you treat me or how entitled you think you are. You sir brought all these "qualities" up...and our disregard generally comes from countless hours dealing with selfish users who have no problems running over people, property or simple ethical behavior to get whatever they want/need. I.E. the public. Grow up....if you had any inkling of the "disregard" we experience in one 8-hour shift from the white, middle-class, professional public you would shut yer trap and donate to the FOP retirement fund...and that's not to mention the generations of the lower class, the drugged out, the unemployed, the immigrant, the thug, the haters, the poverty professionals and the "gots-to-get-mines." I'm sure your job is really important, totally numbers, shuffling papers, going to meetings. Just leave the dirty stuff to the professionals and go play fantasy football.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I'LL UN LOAD ALL 8 ROUNDS OF SIG-220 IN SOME SOME MUTT INSTEAD OF RISKING RABIES, POSSIBLE NERVE DAMAGE, OR STICHES FROM A BITE. THE MAJORITY OF THESE DOGS AINT RAISED IN LOVING HOMES ANYHOW. SO IT COMES AS NO SUPPRISE TO HEAR THAT A P.O. KILLED A DOG.
9/24/2007 03:51:00 PM
You're supposed to have 9 round capacity. 8 in the mag and one in the chamber. What gives Sally? Forget to chamber one when you were doen posing in front of the mirror?
Now hit the shower towel boy!
Hey white, middle class, professional: I hope you remember that we have "lost you" the next time you need police service! This board is for us to joke and blow off steam. You deal with the sh*t we deal with and see on a daily basis and see if your sense of humor doesn't get a little rough around the edges. As far as our "tactical" gear do a ride along sometime in a busy district and see if we don't need what we have and more. If your life was being threatened you be happier than mope with a link card when we show up with looking all "military", whatever that means. What world do you live in? Congrats on not having a criminal record.
Hey 11:49
I realize that there is one in the bucket along with the 8 in my mag. Or is there some other "official" term for the word magazine that I faild to miss? Sorry but I'm too busy with court, my side gig to be playing with myself in my bedroom. Its also obvious you really have nothing more creative to say or to add to the topic other than something about missing a small detail about our crap ammo.
My point, and I'll go slow for you, is that I'm not willing to risk any injury for some mutt or pur bred. I could care less about having a summer off do to an IOD. That injury could have me on light duty, or duty disabilty, and for what? Because I was too much of a pussy to protect myslf? I'm a street guy and proud of it. Got no plans to work inside along you.
SO I hope you get the point here. Its about protecting yourself and going home in the same fashion as when you walked out the door. If Joe Shithead makes himself a threat to me well then down he goes. Same with your dog sweety
What did the white middle class professional say that was so out of line or incorrect that upset some of you? He, for the most part was correct. Look at the way some of us dress. Tac guys dressed up like ninja warriors. Whats the point of being in plain clothes when you wear body armour on top of your "plain clothes" or carry a gun exposed? Some of you DO look like your going off to war. The other day I was in a restaurant in Pilsen. In walked four plainclothes coppers. NOBODY gave them a second look. Know why? Because their guns, radio, body armour and all the other related items we carry were all concealed, as they should be. The only reason I knew who they were is because I know what to look for. They made me proud. Policemen acting like Policemen, not some young self impressed stud who feels the need to dress like a soldier gong off to war.
Am I being too harsh? Read some of the posts here. Many of you post as though you never made it past the fourth grade or as if your the product of a dysfunctional family from the hills of Tennessee.
9/24/2007 12:59:00 PM
Well fuck you mr white, middle class professional with NO criminal history. I dont want to be your good guy you lost fool living in a bubble. You better hope one of the "invading army" are near. When mr criminal history decides to come to your part of town and give you a little of his reality. Liberal puke i hope CPD kicked your father's ass in 68 just like the qoute from our convention shirt and may the thugs this "invading army" fight do the same to you.
9/24/2007 09:09:00 AM
Thats if you compare it to residents of 007, 015, 002, East end of 008, 005, 006, south end of 009, 021, east end of 022, should I continue?
Hey 11:49
Get bent fruitcake! Court? Side gigs? Joe? First off, watching Poeple's court doesn't qualify. Second, Side jobs seem to be impairing your ability to do your primary job effectively. Load your magazines properly as well as your weapon. And finally, have you ever even met Joe? You sound like a seasoned vet. Just finish your cycles?
It's OK junior. Patroling mom's garden, watching court TV, telling your friends and family you are the "working" police and being a general tool is OK. If it wasn't for make-believe, legends in their own minds, hard chargers like you, I'd actually have to step it up a notch. Keep up the good work...mom appreciates it.
Oh, and the lingo is something you'll get the hang of, just watch more COPS. Oh, and all that freetime being occupied by your side gigs and court doesn't seem to take away from your posting time. Keep it up junior.
Corniellus Longstreet, a famous dogkiller, previously assigned to Narcotics has shot at least 20 dogs during his career. Someone should follow him around and when he does it again, which he will, pass out the lawyer's business card.
I recommend Bill Owens for the job!
I killed a dog i 017 about 20 years ago. Dope dealer was hiding the heroin tins in the collar of a large doberman. City gave him 10 grand; me? An honorable mention.
Its about time. . . why should this dog have been deprived of its life and this man be deprived of his companion because a policeman decided to chase a bad guy through the owner's lot and the dog did what dogs do - he defended his territory. A good dog is worth far more that $250.00 and even if the P.O. did nothing wrong and no one is saying he did, the owner deserves to be compensated for his loss.
I'd hate to tell you how much money I and my friends have invested in our dogs and heaven help the sucker who hurts or injures one of them.
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And what are you really going to do about it asshole?
While I don't have record, I've met more than a few cops. I've also met a lot of dogs. The dogs are far and a way better creatures than most cops.
And judging by the callous comments posted here, and the absolute disreagard for "civilians" cops seem to harbor, I don't see that changing much.
That should disturb you guys: I'm a white, middle class professional with NO criminal history, and you've lost me. We don't see you guys as the "good guys" anymore. The more military you act, and the more black "tactical" crap you hang on your armor makes you look more like an invading army than civil authorities.
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Then get off of our blog you weirdo. I don't care about what you do nor would I take the time to look at things that you do. This site is for us, not you. FYI, If we have things on our vest, we 99.9% need the fucking thing you clown.
Then how come the city isn't posting set "fines" of $27G to all those fuckheads who are in organized dog fighting...that itself is aggravated cruelty and torture. Then lock the owner's ass ala Michael Vick for 4 years in the IDOC. arf! arf!
Anybody who doesn't like dogs are complete jagoffs. I had an ex who didn't like dogs and I said buh-bye!
"...And judging by the callous comments posted here, and the absolute disreagard for "civilians" cops seem to harbor, I don't see that changing much.
That should disturb you guys: I'm a white, middle class professional with NO criminal history, and you've lost me. We don't see you guys as the "good guys" anymore. The more military you act, and the more black "tactical" crap you hang on your armor makes you look more like an invading army than civil authorities..."
Hey Oak Parker, go back home! Or maybe you would like to hang around Ferdinand/Lavergne --you pick the time of day. When we come to save your dumb ass you'll be happy we look all 'tactical' and 'army like'
Civil authorities are great, as long as you are dealing with CIVIL people, otherwise, you need any invading army !
Anybody who doesn't like dogs are complete jagoffs. I had an ex who didn't like dogs and I said buh-bye!
9/25/2007 07:11:00 PM
Who the fuck cares?
I'm intrigued by the post regarding Corniellus Longstreet. Can I hire him to patrol Washington Square Park in my neighborhood (beat 1832)?
CIVILIANS ARE CLUELESS
Hey 4:30
its funny but that person your started a pissing match with has a valid point. Maybe you should read it again till it sinks in.
Instead you accuse him/her of being on their cycles yet you sound like you have 19 months on. Now I don't know how much time on you have, not really the issue. The issue is about going home alive and well.
And the lingo? We all know the lingo, not sure where your going with that. And who is Joe?
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