The More Things Change...
...the more they stay the same.
Earlier this year, almost 20% of the City Council was replaced by voters. But even among a few of the new aldercreatures, the same old tired song and dance:
Earlier this year, almost 20% of the City Council was replaced by voters. But even among a few of the new aldercreatures, the same old tired song and dance:
- Five Chicago aldermen sent a letter to U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald on Thursday urging him to "investigate, indict and prosecute" former Chicago Police Lt. Jon Burge for torturing African-American criminal suspects.
"We strongly believe that the federal prosecution of Burge and his police helpers is possible and that the statute of limitations is not a bar. Burge and all involved can be prosecuted for perjury, obstruction of justice and for ongoing conspiracy to cover up their torture scheme," wrote the aldermen -- Bob Fioretti, (2nd), Pat Dowell (3rd), Billy Ocasio (26th), Ed Smith, (28th) and Helen Shiller (46th).
Fioretti and Dowell seem to have taken up the mantle of Haithcock and Tillman. We aren't sure if any of the listed aldercreatures are lawyers, but we're pretty sure that the statute of limitations IS a bar to prosecution. We'll quote from the United States Department of Justice website:
- [Note: the federal criminal civil rights laws have a five year statute of limitations from the date of the incident, except in cases involving an intentional killing (generally not bound by the statute of limitations) and religious interference incidents (seven year statute of limitations)].
That was located in about 15 seconds of internet surfing, and we aren't being paid nearly as much as an aldercreature or a lawyer. Perhaps the aldercreatures ought to encourage Mr. Fitzgerald to look a little closer to home for some corruption?
Labels: dumb ideas, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
40 Comments:
is it ok to torture non-blacks?
Its just another example of the hacks using the media..
Why can SCC find the law and the news media cant. Let them beat a dead horse just remember when you get the opportunity screw the alderman over.
FIORETTI IS A LAWYER. HE HAS A SMALL LAW OFFICE EVEN HAS A BENCH STATING HES A LAWYER ON WESTERN.
PSSSSSSSSSST!!!!!
The key to getting around the statute of limitations problem, is conspiracy charges. Under the law, every act "in furtherance of a conspiracy" restarts the clock. Someone must prove a cover-up among the officers and other officials that includes false testimony before the special prosecutor, and thus reopen the criminal case.....stranger things has happen.
Fioretti is a civil rights atty
Fioretti is a lawyer who has made a living suing police in the name of "civil rights."
He is just as bad as HateCop.
Everyone keeps overlooking the obvious. Why not go after Richard Brzeczk too? He was the Superintentdnet of Police. Burge worked for him. All he did was write a letter to Daley, who was only the State's Attorney. Last time I looked, CPD does not work for the State's Attorney.
If Brzeczk beleived there was wrong doing and he did nothing,he violated Department policy and the Rules and Regulations. He never initiated an investigation, he never called Burge on the carpet, and he never even dumped him; all within his powers. He sat on his hands. If Burge is ever held accountable, Brezeczk should be held just as accountable.
His lack of action was egrigious, wanton negligence and reckless disregard.
I rememeber those times. Burge and his team captured vicious murderers and cop killers. He was a hero to us. He still is today.
GOD BLESS JOHN BURGE!!!!!
By now all the "New Breed" of recently elected alderats have gotten city jobs for their pals and relatives so lil hitler from the 5th floor will call the shots for them too.
Dig it Kiddies! Chicago loves this sight! The silent majority have a voice! These aldercreature/moron/soulless/scummy/corrupt/depraved/perverted/backstabbing/rats/nancy-boys, wish they were half the man our boy Burge was. Unfortunately, Burge wasn't able to exist as one of them. He couldn't suck ass to mentally impaired citizens that think that they are a part of something big by going to beat meetings and complaining about lote' venders making too much noise in front of their barrio/ghetto house. Burge grew up in an era where Americans cleaned up their own back yard and would rather get raped by a bear with syhphillis then talk to a phony/weirdo-o politician alder-retard about petty problems. Alderwimps run to supervisors when they don't get their way and try to intimidate through money and politics so they can get their rattle/bottle. Burge would rather die a slow, painful, death then go run crying to his mommy or daddy about not getting his way. Any Chicago officer that goes to any of these aldertools parties/let's make the kid that got picked on in high school feel good about himself sock hop jamboree, should feel ashamed of themselves. Burge had a party for all the men and women that loved him when he was dragged through the mud. I guarantee the handshakes and smiles he recieved were much more legitimate and heartfelt then any one of the aldertards fake celebrations. Stay safe coppers, from the laziest dog, to the chicken with his head cut off, running around P.P.O. The tides are changing.........sorry, got to go. My aldermoron just called me and he needs a ride to the porn store. Gotta Go!!!!!!!!!!!
For God's sake, would they please stop beating a dead horse. This issue has been going on since I got on the job. Get over it and let the man die in peace!
PSSSSSSSSSST!!!!!
The key to getting around the statute of limitations problem, is conspiracy charges. Under the law, every act "in furtherance of a conspiracy" restarts the clock. Someone must prove a cover-up among the officers and other officials that includes false testimony before the special prosecutor, and thus reopen the criminal case.....stranger things has happen.
We ain't buying it. The argument will be made the conspiracy ended when Burge retired. Or, failing that, the lack of any investigation in the intervening years amounts to way more than the statute of limitations.
How bout the fact they spent millions of OUR money, taxpayers dollars on a report they now say was incorrect in stating that the staute of limitations has run out. If the report is wrong, are they gonna ask for a refund from the Mayor's buddies?
Pallidin
Man, you should have seen Alderman Ray Suarez show up at that D.O.A. at 4906 W. Drummond to work the crowd. Shaking hands, talking with the citizens about crime issues.
I just ask this one question?
Did any of these Alder-Idiots call for the immediate indictment and imprisonment of AlderThief Troutman?
Don't think so.
Lets remember that Fioretti and Dowel are new and they're just feeling their oats and trying to make names for themselves - all Ocasio is is another gangbanger elected by ignorant illegals - Smith has proven himself time and time again to be an ignorant West Side mumble mouthed fool - at least Schiller is acting in character, she's always been against us.
Why pay any attention to these morons. If you see anyone of them on the street with as much as a hairline crack in their windshield write em. Write em. Write em.
Just another bunch of silly aldermen who want to impress their 'constituents'.
I hope that a Chicago alderman has enough education to understand that a Staute of Limitations exists.
Once again, these alderman are trying to impress the dumb, uneducated, and easily led of society.
I guess knowledge of the law is too much for the city council to have.
Maybe they should look into aldercreatures buying coke off Division St to snort with a Congressman at a later time? Or the free materials given when constructing a home from contractors in exchange for zoning and permit relief? Or maybe, I say maybe even a campaign contribution for any consideration when a problem comes up at all.
Jon Burge for Mayor!
It sounds more like a conspiracy among alderman. Maybe they should be investigated.
That conspiracy should include the Municipal CEO's of the Time and their entire apparti of co-conspirators- the late Harold Washington, Mayor David Orr, Mayor Eugene Sawyer as well . . . the arugument has been that there was a vast conspiracy - no conspiracy can exist without management - This is a City Ruled by the autocratic mayors of Chicago - or so the argument seems to have been.
I swear FIORETTI is a drag queen.He has that look that just says"Bob to Babs"!
apparently city council members/aldermen dont have a RULE prohibiting them from associating with known convicted felons --WALLACE BRADLEY---i dont understand why any alderman or our new ops director is wasting their time talking with him
Bob Fioretti makes his living, in part, by suing the CPD. Helen Shiller's son, Brendan, is also trying to make a living suing the CPD. Do you think anyone has noticed that two of the people who want Burge looked into would personally profit if there was no statute of limitations?
Lets hope Fitzgerald is looking into all the alderthieves like gang banger munoz, and burke (teflon don) of chicago and Dixon and the rest of the criminal idiots! "LOCK EM ALL UP"!
Is electricuting someones balls torture? what if you dress em up like the gimp?
I only care that this POS that called himself a Lt. in the CPD will not be punnished. You have to go after the whole unit, not just 1 person.
John Burge God Bless You TOPS in my book. F-these thugs.
Fioretti is not the only one. Shiller's son (legal counsel, and financial contributor), Brandon Shiller makes a living suing the police. He is also the lawyer that filed suit in the “shooting” a few months back when the cops on the scene did not even fire their guns.
GIVE IT UP ALREADY! FIX YOU HOOD!!
Remember the black box Flint Taylor and friends held up for the news cameras all the time. They said it was used to "torture" people with electric shocks. Taylor and Company built that black box, and after questioned as to where they found it, they reluctantly said it was a replica. No shock box was ever found. All this Burge stuff is the word of convicted murders and hard core gangbangers who had/have nothing to lose by claiming all this torture. It's total BS. Not one single copper or dick accussed of any of this stuff working under Burge has ever admitted to any of it. Not one. The SOS guys, the Corey Flagg crew all rolled on each other. Not one allegedly involved dick has ever verified these baseless allegations.
ONLY CRIMINALS CAN BE CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY. THE POLICE ARE HERE TO DO GODS WORK AND THEREFORE "CONSPIRACY" DOES NOT APPLY. ALSO REMEMBER THE MEDIA GOT TIRED OF PLAYING THE CFD VIDEO AND NOW ALL THEY HAVE ON A SLOW NEWS DAY IS JON BURGE. I SAY LET IT GO,JON BURGE IS A HERO TO ALL OF US,AND YOU WILL NEVER FIND A FINER EXAMPLE OF THE POLICE THAN HIM. GOD BLESS JON BURGE.
Hypothetical Scenario: Get OEC call of person with a gun. See person Matching description Running while holding his side. You get dude into custody but never recover pistol. Maybe he tossed it on a roof and you can't find it , maybe it never existed. PARALLEL SCENARIO: VIOLENT FELONS with extensive criminal histories allege Burge tortured them with black electrical box. Black box is never recovered or inventoried. No P.O. or detective ever takes control over the box, presents it to the media, State's Attorney, The FEDS, OPS, or IAD. Sounds like no one has a case on Burge. Maybe the Box existed, maybe it didn't. There is no reasonable case. God Bless Burge. Did what he did to put cop killers in the joint. Wish more had his balls.
I want U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald to "investigate, indict and prosecute" all current and former alder creatures.
I too say God Bless burge.
Schill-hoors pothead son is a Lawyer too.
Anonymous said...
I want U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald to "investigate, indict and prosecute" all current and former alder creatures.
9/22/2007 09:21:00 PM
I second that and also get daley-stroger-beavers-balgo-burke!
Flint Taylor believes police officers should be charged with conspiracy when they take the 5th Amendment after consulting with an attorney, a 6th Amendment right.
It appears that the Constitution does not attach to police officers?
Jon Burge was Homicide Commander in Area Two when two Chicago patrolmen were executed while in uniform by the Wilson brothers, who were later captured and admitted to their crimes...only after being charged with the murders, did these thugs say they were beaten....so sad...welcome to jail and hard time for cop-killing...
OUR JOB IS TO BRING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COURT...THAT'S ALL!!! IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO INFLICT PUNISHMENT...IF IT WERE, THEN AND ONLY THEN COULD YOU ADMIT IT...IF ALLOWED. BURGE IS A COMPLETE EMBARASSMENT TO THE FIELD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT...AND SO IS EVERYONE THAT CONDONES HIS OBVIOUS TRANSGRESSIONS!!!
Fioretti used to defend CPD in civil rights cases many years ago. He has, since then, filed a few cases against cops.
He's also a dingbat with dyed yellow hair.
11% sales tax in chicago, now thats a crime. anyone ever think what the tax payer's get for their money? i'll tell you SHIT. everything in this city county state and even our federal government is fuked up.
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