More Bad News for SOS
Perjury? And not the current scandal either:
- The arrest report filed by two Chicago police officers claimed they searched Raymundo Martinez outside a Southwest Side bar because he threw a bottle of Corona down on the sidewalk when he saw them coming.
The officers, members of the special operations section, saw a plastic bag that turned out to contain cocaine poking from his sleeve and arrested him, their report states.
But cameras on the bar's ceiling and outside caught a very different scene that night in 2004 at Caballo's, 3748 W. 63rd St. Instead of two officers approaching a man drinking on a public street, the video shows more than two dozen police from the SOS unit raiding the bar and searching everyone, and arresting Martinez inside the bar.
And the worst part?
- After taking on Martinez's case in 2004, defense lawyer Scott Levy said he waited to show the video to prosecutors until after the arresting officer testified in October 2004 about the arrest.
"I asked the police officer at the preliminary hearing what happened, and it was blatantly obvious the police officer had fabricated the entire story," Levy said.
If true, slam dunk perjury and official misconduct.
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 7:00 AM
153 Comments:
When are these guys going to learn?
Its amazing what a little technology can do.Folks you can buy wireless color mini cams at CostCos for $70 so you decide where policing is headed.
Just read the article in the tribune! ATTENTION ATTENTION ALL OFFICERS PLEASE USE CAUTION, DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE WE ARE IN A TIME WHERE LAWLESSNESS WILL RUN WILD! We have to just back each other up, and watch out for an enemy who hates the police scot levy! A quote in the article in the tribune "we waited 3 years because in chicago we had to bow down to the police", the bar owner states! WTF? Now what will we have more problems with jagoff gang members and the general public? the simple answer is yes! As for me I have been done working for awhile and shit like this sets it back even more! From now on any question a white shirt will be requested via the radio (so it is on tape) and then he/she can make the decision after all that is wht they are paid for! Get ready sgt your really going to be earning your money! Sorry but when the shit hits the fan we need your expert advice even if you have no clue but you are clouted in. This way sgt you can join in the lawsuit fun and I can say "My sgt told me to do it that way"
YES!!!
Down with SOS!
Finally, all of you 'holier than thou' cops who worked there and had the 'my shit does not stink' attitude towards the real hard working police, have gotten caught up in your BS antics. You thought that your "stories" of your arrests would never catch up to you - but now it has. Too many times I have heard you in the districts with BS stories they would not even put on The Shield!
Way to go...you have ruined the reputation of the good cops in 153, and in all the other districts, the ones who did not have mommy or daddy to call for us to get us a spot. Now it is so bad they are looking for people in Daily Bullentins to go there. Way to go...using an SOS term here - ASSHATS!
I hope those involved enjoy the stay at Club Fed with Jerry!!
ALOT OF PO'S THINK THATS LEGIT.
I READ THE REPORTS ALL DAY
OBSERVED BLAH BLAH BLAH ON FRONT SEAT.
OBSERVED OFF 1 DROP TO THE GROUND BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
OBSERVED OFF 2 WALKING WITH TV OUT OF APARTMENT
OFF 1 READ MIRANANDA FROM PREPRINTED CARD OFF 1 STATED BLAH BLAH BLAH.
IT NOT THE 1950'S ANYMORE IF YOU DONT HAVE IT, OH WELL. TO MANY CAMERA PHONES I HOPE THE PPO'S ARE PAYING ATTENTION. IS IT WORTH YOUR
JOB AND FREEDOM.
THEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR SOFT PARTNER WANTING TO "HIRE PAINTER" TO FIX YOUR ASS IN COURT CUZ YOU CANT REMEBER THE ARREST.
ANYTHING THAT FRANK RADKE TELLS THE G IS A BALD-FACED LIE! HE'S NOTHING MORE THAN A DRUNKEN LYING RAT TRYING TO SAVE HIS ASS.
ANY SANE PERSON WANT TO BE THE NEXT POLICE SUPERINTENDENT?
IF YOU'VE GOT A PULSE, YOU'VE GOT THE JOB.
Don't they know that ALL bars have videotape in? Was that good ol' C.S. front and center?
Whoever was in box 1 and 2 and whoever testified to this horseshit, say goodbye to your jobs and say hello to Official Misconduct and Perjury charges.
Don't these goofs know no matter how much dope you take off the streets, could be 50 kilos a night, there will always be more. Dope is a waste of time.
And now you have lost your livlihood and possibly freedom over a few bags of dope. Explain that to your wives and children when you go to prison.
And a big thank you to SOS for further sullying the reputation of all the honest coppers in this city. Shut this fucking unit down already and get rid of these assholes and their conveniently blind supervisors.
Fucking morons.
12 officers don't get together and do these unlawful searches of a whole bar unless it's ordered/sanctioned by a supervisor. The officer who wrote that false report will lose his gun and badge soon (deservedly so) if he already didn't turn it in today. But let's look at who ordered these searches. This whole thing is nonsense and terrible police work. And for what? A one or two bag dope arrest? Great job guys. Way to ruin our reputation some more. I've always been a huge supporter of SOS, Saturation and TRU and like when they hit our district. But now I would like to see them disbanded/reigned in.
Hello! Hello! is anybody out there? Can you say "Cameras everywhere"!!!
So is it possible that all of those Officers who were involved in this impromtu raid might have to generate some type of paper work to "Show what YOU know"!
You got to admit, we are our own worse enemy, nothing that Jesse,Jake,Sharpton can say, can make us look as bad, as what some of us might do.....We can talk about inept bosses, politically connected wannabes, over reacting media...........but it boils down to one thing, when one of us or a small group of us act in such a manner as to color us all in a broad brush....we all end up wearing the stains of their misdeeds and actions. Its a wonder that the media isn't demanding federal intervention into this department......its amazing with all that is happening that those who are still among us with issues, are still going around business as usual...are they that stupid or do they believe that they are so smart they can't be caught.
bravo to the defense. it sucks, but if I ever got screwed by the police I would want that to happen to.
I wear gel in my hair. It's really a good look, and makes sense in a windy city. I write movers and parkers, lock someone up on signed complaints only when I really have to. And I don't worry about going to prison. Am I still the fool, or have I become wise over the years?
That way of thinking is why city cops don't trust police.I got 3 family members who are cops(1 a state trooper and 2 chicago)and the first thing they always tell me is to never mouth off at a Chicago Police Officer.Second is to always put my hands on the steering wheel during a traffic stop and turn off the car.And third,if your dirty be up front about it first and inform them of who you know by giving them there businesss card.I hear the horror stories......
A lot of cops are dirty and not to be trusted.But on the other side of that,they look at us the same way.Its a volatile situation and almost seems like the damage is too great to ever repair.
Everybody knows cops lie all the time on their reports. Even the judge sometimes agrees at traffic court that the cop was wrong.
I am all for locking up the bad guys, even if it's some bullshit city charge, but I never understood why POs would not only risk their jobs, but their freedom, and commit a felony to arrest anyone. Isn't there enough bad guys out there to get without using such tactics?
There is no doubt in my mind that the bar was a gang hangout, or they were selling in there, or just simply full of shitheads, but in the day of cameras, the ACLU and a department that will not back you up, that raid was plain stupid.
This is where the numbers game, and quantity of quality has gotten the department. Even though these guys are responsible for what they did, I am sure they, like all the other "elite" teams, were pressured into getting their heads for the night. Their Sgt or Lt will look good and undoubtedly get promoted, while leaving them hang out to dry and sit in federal prison.
I am amazed. The other day I spoke with a young officer who is going to ask to go to SOS. Why would anyone even think about going there? The unit should be disbanded. Come back to patrol and work a beat car. Less freedon - but alot less aggravation and much lower expectations.
What on God's green earth is going on with people on the CPD. Ofc. ordering hits on other officers???!! It appears that the number 1 player in this fiasco, also had his wife somewhat involved in this in someway. This whole thing is absolutely crazy.
If guilty I hope he and everybody involved are placed in general population of some prison and let what ever happens, happen. Damn wearing this blue uniform everyday is becoming a task.
In light of recent developments and the oncoming firestorm of negative national publicity, there is absolutely no way for Daley to appoint an insider as the next Superintendent.
They've circled the wagons on the 5th floor at City Hall. CPD HQ is one big clusterfuck.
Daley's dilemma is compounded by the fact that qualified "outsiders" know that clout has finally come home to roost in the CPD.
Watch the mass exodus of the current political hack bosses combined with the "brain drain" of younger, talented officers.
In retrospect, the pre-O.W. Wilson "Summerdale Scandal" was mere child's play.
Ultimately, federal receivership is a given.
Suffice to say that among other things, the days that lie ahead will be most interesting.
Maria Soto-Maher is our last and only hope!
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
Just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they lie. Why is there a need "to get somebody?" I'll never forget a principled cop who testified honorably---he didn't have a warrant and was going on a hunch. The case was tossed and I asked spoke to the officer after court and he told me that me client isn't an angel and we'll get him next time. Sure enough, three months later, I got hired again because the same officer observed a hand to hand delivery of narcotics. Always tell the truth.
At one time I worked in the 008th District. At the time I was there, that bar was a gang hangout. Gang meetings were also held in the same bar. You can say what you want about certain individuals from SOG, but they hit the right bar that night and locked up the right jagoff. Now the media (who also reads the blog) is making this a racial thing. Will this shit ever stop???
To 9/28/2007 01:51:00P.M.
In this day and age how stupid can you be? Yes it is a crime! Have you ever heard of Perjury and Official Misconduct. I hope you aren't the police, because stupid comments like yours make all of us look bad.
F-CK SOS A BUNCH OF DO NOTHING POLITICAL HACKS WHO WILL COME INTO A DISTRICT START SHIT AND AS COWARDS ALSO DO DRIVE AWAY. GOD BLESS THE WORKING NO CLOUT POLICE OFFICERS.
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
9/28/2007 01:51:00 PM
I really hope you are trolling, because, YES it is a crime, and you should know that.
I know for a fact that when IAD or OPS gets a beef, they are to immediately acertain if there is any video available from any source, and get it without delay. Keep that in mind when you are out there doing street stops and such. If you get a beef, you better hope your paper matches the tape or you're done.
oops!
Anonymous said...
Its amazing what a little technology can do.Folks you can buy wireless color mini cams at CostCos for $70 so you decide where policing is headed.
9/28/2007 08:15:00 AM
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We went around all the ghetto to Radio Shack (tm) a while back to to get, imagine this, A RADIO. Well, they don't sell radios at Radio Shack. If you ask for one you will get a blank stare.
What they do sell are home camera security systems. Guess what? They were all sold out....
Good to see an even handed post on here. Too often, people are quick to judge this blog as turning a blind eye to any wrong doing by cops.
Kudos.
scot levy! A quote in the article in the tribune "we waited 3 years because in chicago we had to bow down to the police", the bar owner states!
He obvoiusly never did a ride along in 11 or 7 or even 24
Anonymous said...
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
9/28/2007 01:51:00 PM
YES. IT RESULTS IN A CRIME CALLED PERJURY. Let's see, first, refer to terry vs ohio. Then, let's figure out how the whole episode is ON CAMERA, clearly showing the arrest report to be false. Which, by the way, leads to the fact that there is a court report out there documenting false testimony. So lets recap... inventive, sloppy police work, although well intentioned, leads eventually to perjury, which is a crime. Please figure this out soon, or you will be on the stand taking your OWN defense. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they got dope off the street...but is it worth it? Clearly, given the state of things, we are not supossed to actively police. Oh, by the way, he made it more complicated with his writing. Stretching the truth is is one thing, but conjuring up a fantasy about how something happened is plain stupid. This is a prime example of an officer going to an elite unit although he HAS NO IDEA how to write paper, and the fact that a whole group of po's could look over the report before submission and say, "looks good to me" is scary as hell. I love working 99. I write a mover when I'm afraid of getting dumped, and a parker when I have to. Thats all this climate allows, so accept it. And don't give me the swagger "daa, you aint the real police!" cause there ARE NO MORE REAL POLICE. THOSE DAYS ARE G O N E It's 2007 people, wake up!!!
Anonymous said...
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
9/28/2007 01:51:00 PM
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Fruits of the poisonous tree, my friend. Honestly, they should just legalize all drugs. I'll knock out paper all day long for some dumb yuppie who gets robbed or burgled bec he wanted to be an urban pioneer in the middle of a hot dope tip. 1st & 16th.
Anonymous said...
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
9/28/2007 01:51:00 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you are being sarcastic!!!
Please explain the supervisors actions before blaming every one in the video. Were was the Field lt from the 008th District. Who signed off on the arrest slip.
These idiots just did not do this once this was regular learned behavoir.
I myself, cannot believe it. These were just 'hard workin' coppers' You know? It's true. If you work, you're gonna' get CR's. It's part of the territory. All these scum bag citizens have been lyin' on the po po for years. Working cops get CR's. If you don't have at least ten CR's, you must be a dog. And that video stuff- it's fake. A fabrication. Just like the self inflicted woulds Mf'ers give themselves when they make a brutality complaint. When are WE gonna' wake up and stop makin' excuses for our brethren who are overzealous?
HEY! I BET THEY ALL PASSED TEH ON LINE ETHICS SCAM, I MEAN EXAM!
"Everybody knows cops lie all the time on their reports. Even the judge sometimes agrees at traffic court that the cop was wrong."
I don't often respond to stuff on this blog, but I have to take exception to this idiotic statement. Most of us barely write traffic tickets anymore, but if we do it's because YOU commited a traffic violation that was so blatant, dangerous and inexcuseable that you give us no choice but to write you up in the hope that it will slow you down in the future.
Now go crawl back under your rock, ya troll!
Listen, it is not just SOS that are lazy, stupid, or incompetent. All most all of you one bag wonders are the same. We all have embellsihed probable cause from time to time, but you newbies have taken it to a high art. Why? Because you people are lazy, stupid and incompetent and you want to use those talents to get on a tact team or a pat on the head.
The only mistake they made is they got caught. It could be one of you laughable Filmo Rangers next or you 025 hot shit don't stink cops next.
Before you criticize you better look into the mirror. I have heard your bullshit about arrests and that is just what it is, bullshit. Most of you guys would not make a hemarroid in a real cops ass.
Then you compund your stupidity and come here and criticize, when you are doing the same or worse.
They got caught. Today it is them, tomorrow it could be you. Judge not lest ye be judged.
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
I hope this is said in jest, if not I hope to never work with you.
KLUPT is in the front page TRIB picture,gee do you think he will talk.He is Jerry Seinfelds Uncle Leo with a badge.
SCC
The more I read the blog it seems it is just "rants" by IAD and or public corruption unit that sit at the computer to "get our goats" and fish!
These anomymous comments may be input by 5th floor personnel. Or those fishing for information from some other agency. Think BOYS and GIRLS!
Some hard charging ex coppers (now IAD and or the G) that just try to elicit some extra poop to try and look further into something.
Think about it FOLKS!
It does make you wonder because anyone can add comment here as long as you permit it!
I dare you to post this.....SCC.
No habla ingles. Yo quiero ser el jefe de la policia del Ciudad de Chicago.
The Metropolitan Correction Center just rehabed one of it's cell blocks. I think it was the former cell block 27.
It will now be known as Cell Block SOS, fresh donuts will be delivered daily.
"Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?"
9/28/2007 01:51:00 PM
Have you been paying any attention at all! What planet are you from?
O-f-f-i-c-i-a-l M-i-s-c-o-n-d-u-c-t
Got it?
This just gets sadder and sadder...
I am so disappointed. I thank God I have a conscience, half a brain and never gave a f*ck about being a hero to anyone but the family I provide for. Unfortunately though always be aware of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Like I tell the thugs who say "why are you always messing with me?" Because you do dumb enough shit to give me a reason to pick on you.
"NEVER WORK JUST FOR MONEY OR FOR POWER,THEY WON'T SAVE YOUR SOUL OR HELP YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT"-EDELMAN
It is unreal the god dam backstabbing I'm reading on this site!!!! You guys are gonna defend a piece of shit coke gangbanging coke bar!!!!!!!! Everyone of you should be ashamed of yourselves. They shoulda locked every fuckin one of them up in there, checked their liquor license and closed the place down. And on top of it you are gonna applaud a prick snake fuck lawyer! You people make me sick! Nothing but a bunch of monday morning desk jockey do-nothings. Go do some fucking police work instead of jumping on a fellow officers back before you know all the facts! There is a good reason why they waited almost 3 years..........THEY DIDNT HAVE SHIT, THEY STILL DONT HAVE SHIT and every puke lawyer is gonna ride this sos, finnegan, garza, gunteam abbate scandals till the cows are milked dry! Truly embarrassing, so much for brothers in blue right? 95% of you would sell your family out for a ham sandwich
Its perjury and I would have hoped that ERic Olsen knew better. His father was a long-time sergeant from 11 or 12, previously from narcotics. His step-mom was on the job too. But he was another kid who got pushed too far too fast and didn't know how to protect himself or how to stand up and say No! when this kind of crap when down. His Dad has been retired so long that Dad probably can't help him out much and if the Defense Attorney did it the way the news says he did then Eric is done. 4 yrs on the job, maybe.
The media failed to see that Jerry Finnigan and Carl Suchaki are at the front door of the bar...pretty funny
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
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Do you know what it means to testify under oath?...My guess... NOT!!!
Nice Job Zoolander!
What's laughable is when people say, "Finnegan is innocent until proven guilty, he's gonna beat it." What these goofs don't realize is Patrick Fitzgerald took down George Ryan and Scooter Libby. These guys that literally had millions of dollars to spend on a defense and Finnegan has Lionel Hutz (Simpsons) compared to them. Do you actually think he is gonna get off. Once the feds got you, the one-way club fed ticket has been punched and given to you.
All of you seem to have your panties in a bunch. I hope you don't get a yeast infection.
JF only chased dope to glom the cash....PS the feds should see who visited JF in the County when he was locked up last time...could be a boss...I won't tell.
why do PO's go out of their way to arrest these POS"S?
The dude had a little over 10 grams of powder cocaine.
Since when is can the police not enter a licensed business in the city. Especially one that sells liquor?
Anonymous said...
I wear gel in my hair. It's really a good look, and makes sense in a windy city. I write movers and parkers, lock someone up on signed complaints only when I really have to. And I don't worry about going to prison. Am I still the fool, or have I become wise over the years?
9/28/2007 11:24:00 AM...........Can't fault your work ethic,but get rid of the gel,kid.Real men use pomade.
Did the dude have dope on him or not? What's the problem? So they simplified the circumstances a bit...is that a crime?
I agree. They did not want to make it in the bar... get all the licnese numbers and call for a Lt. from the dist... mostly lazy....taking a short cut. As is always the case, the cover up is worse then the action.
Real easy for J.F. and friends to strut around like their shit didn't stink when they didn't have to follow the rules, like the rest of us. C.S. was the biggest hard on on the job. Any copper with half a brain can kick doors down in the ghetto and threaten people and come up with a gun or some dope........Great cops MY ASS! No accountability whatsoever. When I made Sergeant, every time I got a C.R. to investigate that turned out to be SOS or another unit, I would try to forward them back to the unit. It never failed that the Deputy would send them back to be investigated as if was someone in the District.Clout is killing this job on every level. The bosses are just as liable as the officers.
Instead of putting all these indicted SOS guys in prison to rot for life: how bout sending them all(including the stripped but cooperating ones) on a combat mission to Iraq. They can be sent in on one big strike to take out the insurgent/al queda leadership ending the stalemate.(Word has it they all gather at a goat-filled tent once a month at a secret location)
If they survive, General starks or maher etc can commute their sentences.
OOOPS, I dont want to appear racist
and piss off coldchump; send in pacman from 015, and that flagg guy
too. They can run for aldercrooks should they live.......
I like the fact that the State's Attorney had to drop the charges on the $100 million dollars in cocaine bust because Finnegan was involved with that.
Look at the bright side, with all these coppers going to jail, we don't have to pay their pensions. Then we'll have more money way past 2032.
Anonymous said...
Look at the bright side, with all these coppers going to jail, we don't have to pay their pensions. Then we'll have more money way past 2032.
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With all that money staying in our pension fund from all the newly convicted police officers that menas there will be that much more for the Mayor's family to obtain for development projects around the 2016 Olympics.
Does anyone wonder why they used to take entire governments and execute everyone?
Anonymous said...
When will you idiots realize that all the officers involved in the scandals are no longer in the unit? There is a lot of new blood in SOS and it's time they start to rebuild.
9/28/2007 08:46:00 PM
C.S. to many steroids believed in asshole jerry "see my awards" finnegan! What a jagoff hope finnegan rots in hell and fuck his family also he wanted to kill US!
And yet one of their fellow SOS officers was gunned down at his home and there are no leads or arrests one year later. Nothing.
Any other PO's find this fishy?
I am not one to shit on the memories of a dead man, but one now has to question what REALLY happened here.
Of course SCC won't post this as I have tried to bring this up before to no avail.
I watched the video several times. Here is what I didn't see.
Keep in mind that the camera out side only shows a very small part of the side walk in front of the door.
10 minutes before the so called "RAID" two guys from SOS ride past the Bar. They see Jagoff standing outside drinking his Corona. The Officers tell him to take his drink back inside the bar. Now the ilegal alien gangbanger POS says "FUCK YOU" and throws the bottle onto the side walk in the direction of the officers who were seated in their car. The POS runs back into the bar. This takes place out side of the cameras field of view.
The Officers who are street wise know not to go into that bar without backup! They call for the additional SOS units in the area. They orginize and execute a lawful entry into a licensed liquor establisment, to arrest the offender. (known gang and drug bar)
The officers enterd that bar in a calm profesional manner, not like storm troopers as the lawyers and press wnat every one to believe. I did not see one weapon drawn. I did not see one officer get ruff with anyone in that bar.
They arrested three persons from the bar and olny charged two.
Now they want to claim that the story and charges were fabricated. If thats the case why did they not fabricate a story and charge the third person arrested. Seems a little strange they only did that to the one guy this POS lawyer is repesenting!
All I have heard is that if is on camera your done! Now you are saying if it's not on camera you are done. So as usual if you are the Police they can have it both ways.
KEEP in mind this tape was played in court after the officer testified and The Cook County States Attorneys Office drops the charges.
I quess if the initial incident was not caught on tape it did not happen, Right?
What really pisses me off is this attorny a so called Officer of the court, released a video tape to the press that shows ABSOLUTLY NO POLICE MISCONDUCT!!!
But you guys are ready to throw these Officers under the bus based on what this scum bag lawyer and the press want you to believe.
And the sad part is the Dept. will base thier investigation on whats not seen on this useless tape.
One of these days it will be your turn to be thrown under the bus for some bullshit.
This is by far one of the most non incriminating videos against a Police officer I have ever seen. They conduted them selves like true professonals and they are still going to get fucked and the City will cowar and pay out big.
Unfucken believable!!!
"I asked the police officer at the preliminary hearing what happened, and it was blatantly obvious the police officer had fabricated the entire story," Levy said.
It is Levy's opinion that the police officer had fabricated the entire story. Where is the proof???
You no longer need proof in Cook County. If a scumbag lawyer thinks its not true, thats good enough, it did not happen no proof needed.
Cook County Court system is a joke!
LEVY said it so it must be true.
There was a supervisor there. Jimmy Eldridge is seen right in the center of the pack leading his crew.
THEY DIDNT HAVE SHIT, THEY STILL DONT HAVE SHIT and every puke lawyer is gonna ride this sos, finnegan, garza, gunteam abbate scandals till the cows are milked dry! Truly embarrassing, so much for brothers in blue right? 95% of you would sell your family out for a ham sandwich
9/28/2007 06:23:00 PM
You, sir, are truly a moron and an asshat. This is a perfect example of doing things the old way- the way we are not supposed to do it anymore. The 60s and 70s are over.
These guys should get jail time for violating all the laws against stupidity.
Fuck you and the horse you road in on and fuck SOS. May they rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives.
1202
Keep writing fairy tails and see if anyone will read them.
Is it true that Sgt Eldridge is stripped but still on the payroll and in this latest video?
Where were the supervisors during all of this? Where are the sgts and lts? Are they there or are they fucking off somewhere? There was no leadership at all. The supervisors need to be made an example of.
Anonymous said...
It is unreal the god dam backstabbing I'm reading on this site!!!! You guys are gonna defend a piece of shit coke gangbanging coke bar!!!!!!!! Everyone of you should be ashamed of yourselves. They shoulda locked every fuckin one of them up in there, checked their liquor license and closed the place down. And on top of it you are gonna applaud a prick snake fuck lawyer! You people make me sick! Nothing but a bunch of monday morning desk jockey do-nothings. Go do some fucking police work instead of jumping on a fellow officers back before you know all the facts! There is a good reason why they waited almost 3 years..........THEY DIDNT HAVE SHIT, THEY STILL DONT HAVE SHIT and every puke lawyer is gonna ride this sos, finnegan, garza, gunteam abbate scandals till the cows are milked dry! Truly embarrassing, so much for brothers in blue right? 95% of you would sell your family out for a ham sandwich
9/28/2007 06:23:00 PM
Slow your roll! No one so far has defended the bar, defended the doper, or applauded the lawyer. How about THINKING for a change? Instead of charging in to rock out with you cock out, try doing some POLICEWORK...perhaps do a BUY, get a snitch, get a warrant, then hit the place? Maybe even get the business license suspended? That, my friend is policeWORK. It takes time and effort, and the charges stick in court because it's done the right way. Any moreon can charge in and toss his weight around, shake people by their ankles till a baggie falls out. Do it the right way and you have no worries. But, what do I know...I never had a phone call to go anywhere, so my career ended before it even started...
Anonymous said...
Since when is can the police not enter a licensed business in the city. Especially one that sells liquor?
9/28/2007 08:18:00 PM
Einstein...they can enter. They cant do an illegal search on camera and write up paper saying he was stopped outside because he threw a bottle outside. I'll dumb it down for you....just write a parker and you will be ok.
Anonymous said...
And yet one of their fellow SOS officers was gunned down at his home and there are no leads or arrests one year later. Nothing.
Any other PO's find this fishy?
wow. I never thought of that...
What these goofs don't realize is Patrick Fitzgerald took down George Ryan and Scooter Libby.
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Wil Jerry do the same time as them? As in.........none. Good work goof.
that particular bar in 008 is bigtime dirty. gang bangers with guns all the time and drug deals and drug using every time you look at the bar or in front of the bar. the officers did good. went in with back up and took action. the camera's only show you what you/the news wants you to see. not the whole picture of course.
Anonymous said...
At one time I worked in the 008th District. At the time I was there, that bar was a gang hangout. Gang meetings were also held in the same bar. You can say what you want about certain individuals from SOG, but they hit the right bar that night and locked up the right jagoff. Now the media (who also reads the blog) is making this a racial thing. Will this shit ever stop???
9/28/2007 02:49:00 PM
You dumb stupid fuck face, SOG was gone before you ever came on the job, it is SOS, and if you worked in eight and this bar was a bad spot you should have hit it yourself. Or were you afraid. If you were afraid you should have called FH from eight that dude is fearless.
Anonymous said...
And yet one of their fellow SOS officers was gunned down at his home and there are no leads or arrests one year later. Nothing.
Any other PO's find this fishy?
I am not one to shit on the memories of a dead man, but one now has to question what REALLY happened here.
Of course SCC won't post this as I have tried to bring this up before to no avail.
9/29/2007 12:00:00 AM
He had nothing to do with the scandal.
Please explain the supervisors actions before blaming every one in the video. Were was the Field lt from the 008th District. Who signed off on the arrest slip.
How the hell is the 008th district Lieutenant suppose to know? he reads the report for P.C and approves it. You people are beat offs. All they had to do is take the time and do it correctly, license investigation, protective pat-downs of bar patrons for officer safety, this based on the information received of narcotics sales in the bar. Everyone in 008 knew about this bar selling, it wasn't new. Oh well, too late now.
Anonymous said...
It is unreal the god dam backstabbing I'm reading on this site!!!! You guys are gonna defend a piece of shit coke gangbanging coke bar!!!!!!!! Everyone of you should be ashamed of yourselves. They shoulda locked every fuckin one of them up in there, checked their liquor license and closed the place down. And on top of it you are gonna applaud a prick snake fuck lawyer! You people make me sick! Nothing but a bunch of monday morning desk jockey do-nothings. Go do some fucking police work instead of jumping on a fellow officers back before you know all the facts! There is a good reason why they waited almost 3 years..........THEY DIDNT HAVE SHIT, THEY STILL DONT HAVE SHIT and every puke lawyer is gonna ride this sos, finnegan, garza, gunteam abbate scandals till the cows are milked dry! Truly embarrassing, so much for brothers in blue right? 95% of you would sell your family out for a ham sandwich
There are a lot of police officers out there who DO POLICE WORK as you said, but do it legally. It doesn't take a college educated person to see that what they did was a crime, violated people's civil rights, and didn't follow department orders. If you can't follow the law and the orders - DON"T DO THIS JOB!!! We don't need people like you. Good police work is working a case, building a case and getting the bad guy legally and in a way that his case will not be thrown out of court and a case against you brought to court.
I hope you never work for me!! Don't make excuses for officers who are out here breaking the law - it only makes our jobs a whole lot more difficult. Perjury, official misconduct and lack of respect for themselves is what these officers showed the public. Once again - THANK YOU!! Morons!!
Thanks, Jerry, Keith, Carl and the rest of your crew. Due to your greed and stupidity, you have dragged a good man "EO" into the mud that you live in. Eric is a good man! Due to the utter disregard for all lawfulness shown by the SOS robbery/Home Invasion/ Murder for hire crew good people who were just doing their job are being investigated. All our prayers are with you, Margie and the kids Eric.
TO THE POSTER OF:
"And yet one of their fellow SOS officers was gunned down at his home and there are no leads or arrests one year later. Nothing.
Any other PO's find this fishy?
I am not one to shit on the memories of a dead man, but one now has to question what REALLY happened here.
Of course SCC won't post this as I have tried to bring this up before to no avail."
TWO WORDS: STAY TUNED.
Is JAIL worth a ribbon? All the medals, ribbons and decorations this department has to offer aren't worth one day of my freedom.
Jerry you were so proud at the countless awards ceremonies when the mayor would address you as Jerry. Now that Jerry will have some time, why not write your memoirs, title could be How I Lied to get every Department Medal.
Watch the exterior video.LT JB and SGT DC are there.
Just to be devils advocate, isn't the statue of limitations up at 3 yrs for all possible charges both legal and department wise?.Perjury,false arrest, offical misconduct anything else? They have yet to file a law suit or a cr #? So what gives why wait 3 1/2 years before saying anything, other than getting paid by the city after seeing the recent developments of JF and crew
Where were the supervisors during all of this? Where are the sgts and lts? Are they there or are they fucking off somewhere? There was no leadership at all. The supervisors need to be made an example of.
They were on scene, 1 Lt and at least 2 or 3 sgts......
>>I am not one to shit on the memories of a dead man, but one now has to question what REALLY happened here.
NOW?!? Are you kidding?
He was fucking set up...they knew when he was coming home..he wasnt robbed etc! It stank to high heaven from DAY 1!
That tape showed a Whos Who of the privledged class of the CPD
Boys and Girls in blue , answer your radio assignments , write some tickets , make an arrest when required . Do Not stop and search people or vehicles illegaly to make the narcotic arrests. It's not worth it. Protect the citizens,respond quickly to Burglary,robbery, domestic battery calls. Stay safe and most important back each other up on jobs.
To: "Pissed off" 12:02 A.M. Poster.
In essence, as a zealous, hardworking, no clout officer, I agree SOMEWHAT with you..and also am pissed off.
But, I am smart enough to realize that this job has changed & not for the better!
It was good police work up until they got lazy, cut corners, and left out IMPORTANT details.
Put it all in the narrative of the GOCR. I know there are those who will give me the "well, Judge it is a summation of events and not all inclusive..blah,blah,blah"
My point is if the officer had simply said we observed offender do this (offenders action)..then we called for ample back-up and after 10 minutes performed a licensed premise check (our actions)which led to arrest (outcome)..NO PROBLEMS.
But they left a pretty "large hole" in the case report (information wise) that 4 years later the Shitbirds attorney and the media "are driving a mack truck through."
Now it looks as though it is some kind of illegal conduct or cover up. I would have also incuded the licensed premise info and had the W/C sign off.
Result would be:
*gang-banger "off the street"
*dope "off the street"
*liquor commission hearings for bar owner.
*O.T. for A/O.
Outcome:
*Case probably thrown out anyway, but who gives a shit.
*You did your job in good faith and probably wouldn't be enduring a "shitstorm" now!
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I am not wanting to second guess the actions of the SOS guys. I am simply responding to the controversy now being reported in all the media outlets.We all know that they will put their "unique spin" on it also, to make it look far worse than it is.
All working officer's have "stepped on their dicks" at one time or another in their careers (myself included.)But the lesson here is to learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of other officers.
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The Bottom line is..It is about self-preservation..TODAY is not the day to be proactive. Wait until the pendulum swings back in our favor. For now be reactive and that's all.
Or you too may find yourself at "club fed!"
THE PO WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED FROM SOS WASNT EVEN ON FINNIGANS TEAM . THEY HAD THE 2 M/1'S IN CUSTODY . THEY ARE STICK UP MEN THE ASA WOULDNT APPROVE CHARGES ON THEM WITHOUT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OR A CONFESSION .
THE ONE ONLY STATED HE WAS THE LOOKOUT AND BOTH LAWYERED UP .
YOU CAN THANK THE STATES ATTORNEY THEY HAD TO RELEASE THE SAVAGES WITHOUT CHARGING !!!!
IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP ROBBERY
There are a lot of police officers out there who DO POLICE WORK as you said, but do it legally. It doesn't take a college educated person to see that what they did was a crime, violated people's civil rights, and didn't follow department orders. If you can't follow the law and the orders - DON"T DO THIS JOB!!! We don't need people like you. Good police work is working a case, building a case and getting the bad guy legally and in a way that his case will not be thrown out of court and a case against you brought to court.
I hope you never work for me!! Don't make excuses for officers who are out here breaking the law - it only makes our jobs a whole lot more difficult. Perjury, official misconduct and lack of respect for themselves is what these officers showed the public. Once again - THANK YOU!! Morons!!
9/29/2007 04:08:00 AM
And you came to those deductions by watching a 30sec clip on the news?????????? You sir/madame are an asshole and a tool. Do you know the whole story? Well do you? Do you have the whole tape? Were you there? I saying NO to all of those. How long did asshole hold the tape...oh yeah thats right, a long ass time. He has to present any and all evidence to the state and the state likewise before the trial so good luck using it. Cant hold back and use it as a trump card, sorry, dont work like that. Another jag sitting back and thinking he knows how to police. Do us a favor, stick with writing your parkers, reports or whatever useless thing you do cause u really dont know shit dumbass. You said it doesnt take a college educated person to believe what happened was a crime, but it takes a moron with a half a brain like you to believe the news, a piece of shit lawyer and a bar full of illegal gun/coke toting gangbangers. You dont need PERMISSION to search the bar dumbass! Its called a premise check and everyone inside is fair game! Till asshole lawyer throws out the "other" views on tape and shows otherwise, I'll back my brothers in BLUE before you ever will. You make me sick and trust me, I wouldnt let you ride with me if my life depended on it. PO or Sgt or whatever you are. Thankyou you MORON for showing your fellow officers your true colors. We dont need police like you.
What the F*ck is wrong with all you people. That bar is dirty as hell and is a total drug bar. So the police go in there, do their job, find some dope and arrest the guy, what in the world is the big deal. I just can't believe all you whiny p*ssies sticking up for some drug dealing shmo. Get real.
I think the public needs to realize that a lot of these people we deal with are total scum of the earth and in some cases it's just better they not know what we do to put them in jail, but the end result is them being in jail.
Another big problem is that felony review (state's attorney's office) plays judge and jury with approving our charges leaving us in a position that makes us feel like we have to have an airtight case to even call them.
Instead of arresting the offender and charging him for say uuw but you had to go back and pick up the gun b/c you were chasing the a-hole, they want you to lie and say you stopped the chase, picked up the gun then continued chasing otherwise they'll never approve the charges. Like in the span of a minute someone else might have run by and tossed the same kind of gun in the same place, get real. They should not be judging that, that's for the jury to decide. I think that the fel review is the major prob here and that's why paper gets written certain ways. Just to make sure the charges are approved. The change needs to start there.
A licensed establishment is a public place. The police are allowed to enter any public place without a warrant. Who says it did not happen the way the officers wrote the report? The offender could have been to the left of the video camera's exterior view. Then they call for backup to search the bar. This happened in 2004. EO is still assigned to SOS. So did the department know for three years that this guy committed purjury and never filed criminal or administrative charges against him? I doubt it. They can't prove purjury unless the report says the offender was standing directly in front of the bar's front door. That's the only exterior video angle shown. What happened after the arrest is irrelevant.
These violations and bar searches have been going on for years, nothing new. Capt Dulay was doing them years ago in the 14th dist, if you said anything to him about Violations of civil rights. He would fuck over you until you left the dist.
Whoever was in box 1 and 2 and whoever testified to this horseshit, say goodbye to your jobs and say hello to Official Misconduct and Perjury charges.
Not true, I have never heard of The CPD being charge for Perjury and believe me when I say I know for a fact they have been caught hundreds of times. Also if you got juice nothing will happen.
12 officers don't get together and do these unlawful searches of a whole bar unless it's ordered/sanctioned by a supervisor.
You got that right! IF any PO spoke up, they would be labeled a malcontent.
Gotta love Finnegan in the SOS pre-requisite black hooded sweatshirt over his uniform. Shows ya that SOS supervisors didn't give a shit or condoned what was going on.
Never wanted to be a Sgt. but if I was there is no fucking way anybody working for me is gonna run around with that shit on.
Like the criminals on the corners. White t-shirts and black pants.
Anonymous said...
that particular bar in 008 is bigtime dirty. gang bangers with guns all the time and drug deals and drug using every time you look at the bar or in front of the bar. the officers did good. went in with back up and took action. the camera's only show you what you/the news wants you to see. not the whole picture of course.
9/29/2007 02:20:00 AM
If everyone in 008 is aware that this particular bar is full of shitheads, dope and guns, why hasn't someone set something up to get them legitimately? Like try doing some surveillance, search warrants - oh I forgo, the new police don't know about that kind of stuff. You should be embarrassed to say you are aware of a problem bar yet it continues without interruption.
Every 3-4 years we get a Miezenowski (sp?), Pacman or Finnigan to wreck our reps.
...forgot that a$$hole Abbatte.
Anonymous said...
It is unreal the god dam backstabbing I'm reading on this site!!!!
You're 100% correct. These pussies go whichever way the wind blows. Cowards that hide behind their key boards!!
I thought I remembered seeing a few of the SOS guys that were indicted in a couple of the pictures they showed on the news after the copper was shot in front of his house in 011. Also heard that he had given a GJ testimony a few days prior (dont' know on what though). Just rumors at this point though.
9/28/2007 06:23 PM
I agree with post, all these fellow officer's going by a video and the ramblings of a suckhole attorney looking to get paid. I dont know the testimony in court, or if the sos guys called in a disturbance at the bar. If in fact they called for assist units with a Premise Check that is fine.The attorney stated that the officers didnt have a warrant, but the bar is a licensed business in Chicago. No need for a warrant to enter or check around.You must also check and make sure also licenses are current.As far as searching the patrons, you can ask for ID's and due to the cicumstances of the large crowd a protective pat down can be justified. I saw nothing wrong in the video but if they testified to something totaly different that the video they might have problems. Just hope a supervisor was notified of the premise check. Until something alse comes out back the officers whether sos or not until convicted by a jury of twelve.
Anonymous said...
THE PO WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED FROM SOS WASNT EVEN ON FINNIGANS TEAM . THEY HAD THE 2 M/1'S IN CUSTODY . THEY ARE STICK UP MEN THE ASA WOULDNT APPROVE CHARGES ON THEM WITHOUT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OR A CONFESSION .
THE ONE ONLY STATED HE WAS THE LOOKOUT AND BOTH LAWYERED UP .
YOU CAN THANK THE STATES ATTORNEY THEY HAD TO RELEASE THE SAVAGES WITHOUT CHARGING !!!!
IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP ROBBERY
9/29/2007 11:04:00 AM.......two westside dummys outfoxed our dicks??Fuck me......thats bullshit,and if it were true any dick on the case should be fired!!Jerome the Painter,I hope your tonsils get painted white every day you are in prison.
can you imagine if the other jagoff hadn't wore a wire???How many Cops,ex cops or criminals posing as cops would these bags of shit kill?
If everyone in 008 is aware that this particular bar is full of shitheads, dope and guns, why hasn't someone set something up to get them legitimately? Like try doing some surveillance, search warrants - oh I forgo, the new police don't know about that kind of stuff. You should be embarrassed to say you are aware of a problem bar yet it continues without interruption.
9/29/2007 02:45:00 PM
Yes, because everyone has the time and resources to do surveillence, search warrants and this that and the other. Being that you're either held in the DOC, held to ridiculous missions, or doing some other complete nonsense. And since we all know that one search warrant or controlled buy would end the problem instantly and for all time. But thank you so very much for your keen observations oh wise one.
-The "new" police
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It is unreal the god dam backstabbing I'm reading on this site!!!!
You're 100% correct. These pussies go whichever way the wind blows. Cowards that hide behind their key boards!!
9/29/2007 03:39:00 PM
pussies behind keyboards strangely though jagoff what is your name? or are you alos a "PUSSY"? Dickhead!
regarding the tavern search etc. an old retired guy says that the municipal code and relevant IRS statutes use to state that the liquor commissioner or his agent of any municipality can go into an premise wherein liquor is bought, stored, sold or manufacturered for the purposes of inspection, without search warrant.
the only thing they may have on me is me taking my shoes off once i enter my cruiser. eight hours without shoes i really feel refreshened. when will you young whiper snapers learn? no contract no shoes.
why is that unit still around???
What these goofs don't realize is Patrick Fitzgerald took down George Ryan and Scooter Libby.
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Wil Jerry do the same time as them? As in.........none. Good work goof.
9/29/2007 02:12:00 AM
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So you're saying that President George Bush is going to commute Finnigan's sentence just like he did with Libby??? That is the best joke ever! LOL
And with Ryan, he is playing the sh*thed-esque type of maneuver by continuing appeal after appeal to save his ass. He appealed once and lost-wa wa wa. Now he is trying another. (will lose again :(
You are the major goof and we will see what happens tool. You must be a kool aide, Finnegan-j*zz- drinking, SOS moron.
YOU CAN THANK THE STATES ATTORNEY THEY HAD TO RELEASE THE SAVAGES WITHOUT CHARGING !!!!
IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP ROBBERY
9/29/2007 11:04:00 AM
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OK thats what you say. Can you possibly entertain the notion that maybe they didnt do it? Is it possible? I think we all want who did this murder caught tried and executed. NO MATTER WHO IT WAS
Enough, Enough, Enough. When are you piece of shit coppers going to stop gloating when another copper fucks up. Instead of jumping up and down and talking shit about all the coppers that work in S.O.S. why don't you just shut your mouths and do your job. Oh yea, I forgot you don't do that anymore because your getting back at the MAN. Well guess what, being a lazy piece a shit doesn't just show your true colors, but it puts other coppers and even worse our families in danger.
I took this job to put the bad guy in prison so that he doesn't have a chance to harm my fellow officers, myself, and most importantly my family. So, when you sit there on your fat, and yes I mean fat, ass and do nothing you are simply showing what a useless human being you actually are.
No, you were never the "real police," and no you never made a difference. If you are a lazy piece of shit w/ an ass the size of the back of the squad, then you have always been a lazy piece of shit. Your ass has simply just grown from sitting in a squad car so long.
So for all of you that cheer when another copper gets in trouble and use that as an excuse for your laziness, do me a favor. Better yet do my family a favor becuase they live in this city....MOVE THE FUCK ON....At least when you quit or retire there is another opening and maybe just maybe somebody will fill your position who gives a damn about this country, state, and city we live in!!!!
regarding the tavern search etc. an old retired guy says that the municipal code and relevant IRS statutes use to state that the liquor commissioner or his agent of any municipality can go into an premise wherein liquor is bought, stored, sold or manufacturered for the purposes of inspection, without search warrant.
9/29/2007 09:03:00 PM
Yes, but you still can't search the pockets of every person in that liquor establishment. EVER. Nice try though. Might want to read up on the fourth Amendment.
What really pisses me off is this attorny a so called Officer of the court, released a video tape to the press that shows ABSOLUTLY NO POLICE MISCONDUCT!!!
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Different sets of rules!
What these goofs don't realize is Patrick Fitzgerald took down George Ryan and Scooter Libby.
Fitzgerald can't indict anyone under 70 years old. He hasn't laid a glove on the mayor or gov. He's pretty much a joke. Typical media whore...starting to believe his own press.
George had an army of lawyers from Winston and Strawn at $800 an hour each. Scooter, undoubtedly, had a similarly prestigious firm defending him. Even if Jerry and the other had stolen millions it is unlikely that they could afford the sort of fees and asociated costs we can anticipate in this type of defense. Remember, the important thing is not how rich you are, but that the resources of the U.S. government are almost inexaustable on this sort of issue. Also, knowing some of the AUSAs personally I would say that beyond a simple compensation issue, what you have here are people that are crusaders-people that could have made 160,000 a year to start at a law firm but instead chose to serve their country and fight crime. They believe.
to 1:38 PM
There is case law in this state that clearly establishes official misconduct charges based on violations of your department policies alones. There is no need for a statutory crime to have been committed, just violation of your department policy. Of course, the policy must have been established pursuant to statutory authorization-based on a statute in other words. See you in Court! Cheers!!!!
Anonymous said...
And yet one of their fellow SOS officers was gunned down at his home and there are no leads or arrests one year later. Nothing.
Any other PO's find this fishy?
I am not one to shit on the memories of a dead man, but one now has to question what REALLY happened here.
Of course SCC won't post this as I have tried to bring this up before to no avail.
9/29/2007 12:00:00 AM
He had nothing to do with the scandal.
9/29/2007 03:12:00 AM
I sit hear and still mourn the loss of my friend and partner. I had the pleasure of working with Jose up until his untimely death. He got to SOS in 04 and went to work on the team that I still work on, we never worked directly with any of the charged officers. As a matter of fact we never got one CR number for any of the work we did. And some good work I might add. He was robbed and killed by a robbery crew working in that area, this is fact! The area 4 det's have done a great job trying to bring these SOB's to justice and have met resistance from the ASA's as far as the CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence as they put it.
I'll never forget getting woken up moments after he was shot by my brother in law. He drove me to county hospital and I was the first guy there from my team. I was met by an officer that was on scene, who is a friend of mine, he gave me Jose's gun and star. I held onto that star up until I was ordered to turn it over, the hardest thing I've ever had to do because all I wanted to do was take it and hold it.
I won't go on, its hard enough to share those thoughts with you.
All I can say is this, Jose was and always will be a great police officer. I learned an incredible amount in the short time that I was his partner. Anyone that wears star number 13088 should be honored!
He had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any of the BS that surrounds anyone involved with the indictments or any other SOS scandal, he was above that.
All I ask of you is that you get home safe and never ever let your guard down.
who are u people?
Suburbanites who thought CPD would be a way to make u a man?
Get with the program cowards or get out.
This site hurts us more than it helps. If u got a beef, drink with ur friends. Do not air it out on the computer.
I have a feelng a lot of u have not been there when the sit hits the fan, I mean hits the fan.
All these guys(yes guys, what do I mean the real police woman?)
know nothing about the job.
Run silent, run deep, and I will go through a door with you any day
We have been college educated(who cares) since around 97.
We were taught to use pain thresrhshold moves and how to hit people where it counts
Please use this on your reports!
Whatever people say you wre traind to fight.
Our problem IMO is that we are so scared to hit someone we lie onm our paper because everyone said you will get sued.
Be afraid, they are SAVAGES but, we were taught to hit people for a reason
You are smarter than they are, always remember that
regarding the tavern search etc. an old retired guy says that the municipal code and relevant IRS statutes use to state that the liquor commissioner or his agent of any municipality can go into an premise wherein liquor is bought, stored, sold or manufacturered for the purposes of inspection, without search warrant.
9/29/2007 09:03:00 PM
that goodness you are ritired.. G.O.'s state you have to come on the air and give a notification and address of a premises check.
YOU CAN THANK THE STATES ATTORNEY THEY HAD TO RELEASE THE SAVAGES WITHOUT CHARGING !!!!
IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP ROBBERY
9/29/2007 11:04:00 AM
Ask Commander Peterson why no charges were brought.
"Never wanted to be a Sgt. but if I was there is no fucking way anybody working for me is gonna run around with that shit on."
Yeah ok Tuffnut, those guys have more juice than 90% of the Sgt.'s they worked for.
The Sgt.'t were nothing more than facilitator, bagmen for the Hooded Sweatshirt types. Save the hardtalk for your kids, I doubt they listen to you anyway....
sos should have changed its name to THE SS a long time ago they operate just like NAZIS and THE GESTAPO and they are an embarrassement to the CPD DISBAND THE UNIT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BRING SOME CREDIBILITY BACK TO CPD.
Anonymous said...
who are u people?
Suburbanites who thought CPD would be a way to make u a man?
Get with the program cowards or get out.
This site hurts us more than it helps. If u got a beef, drink with ur friends. Do not air it out on the computer.
I have a feelng a lot of u have not been there when the sit hits the fan, I mean hits the fan.
All these guys(yes guys, what do I mean the real police woman?)
know nothing about the job.
Run silent, run deep, and I will go through a door with you any day
9/30/2007 03:02:00 AM
TELL ALL US "GUYS" HOW THE JOB IS HERO! NAME YOURSELF! YOUR ANOTHER REASON JAGOFF THIS JOB IS SHIT! GO HAVE MORE DRINKS YOU MUST BE DRUNK AS USUAL!
Not true, I have never heard of The CPD being charge for Perjury and believe me when I say I know for a fact they have been caught hundreds of times. Also if you got juice nothing will happen.
9/29/2007 01:38:00 PM
Not true ask the two cops that worked in 021st district what happened to them...after testimony at probable cause hearing...when defense attorney produced tape ..........
Anonymous said...
Please explain the supervisors actions before blaming every one in the video. Were was the Field lt from the 008th District. Who signed off on the arrest slip.
These idiots just did not do this once this was regular learned behavoir.
9/28/2007 03:47:00 PM
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You act like these officers don't have brains of their own. Believe me NO and I repeat NO boss, sgt, lt. capt or exempt is going to get me to commit a crime. I know they will not be standing next to me in federal court so as far as I am concerned they are on their own.
BUT...these, of course, are college educated police officers who allow others to dictate this inappropriate behavior for them.
I do not have a college education, am a sgt. have been on the job 23 years and never have I allowed my judgment to be lowered or my integrity to be taken away because another person wanted to do something in front of me. It is not done. I have a reputation and therefore, people know what can and cannot be done in front of me. Stop blaming the supervisors for bad behavior by college educated officers. The same amount of blame goes to both. Unless of course, their brains were sucked out before they went to SOS.
IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP ROBBERY
9/29/2007 11:04:00 AM
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ROBBERY????? What exactly was missing? No, don't say his wallet - CFD had that - gun was there also. What made it a robbery?
Anonymous said...
If everyone in 008 is aware that this particular bar is full of shitheads, dope and guns, why hasn't someone set something up to get them legitimately? Like try doing some surveillance, search warrants - oh I forgo, the new police don't know about that kind of stuff. You should be embarrassed to say you are aware of a problem bar yet it continues without interruption.
9/29/2007 02:45:00 PM
Yes, because everyone has the time and resources to do surveillence, search warrants and this that and the other. Being that you're either held in the DOC, held to ridiculous missions, or doing some other complete nonsense. And since we all know that one search warrant or controlled buy would end the problem instantly and for all time. But thank you so very much for your keen observations oh wise one.
-The "new" police
9/29/2007 06:55:00 PM
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Believe me, tact/gangs have plenty of time to do that kind of work. In fact, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? But I do understand it is difficult to get police work in, have a 2 hours lunch and watch the Cubs game. PLEASE, go to the commander, tell him the issue and if your commander is worth anything, there will be a mission to close down that bar. Been there, done that.
I couldn't agree with you more, how many ballless pussies bad mouth all of these guys they don't even know. Big tough guys don't even know what the fuck is going on.
Fitzgerald can't indict anyone under 70 years old. He hasn't laid a glove on the mayor or gov. He's pretty much a joke. Typical media whore...starting to believe his own press.
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THERE IS A THING CALLED CRIME AND PUNISHMENT. IF THEY WERE 100Y/O THEY STILL COMMITTED A CRIME AT SOME POINT AND DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED,END OF STORY. AT SOME POINT SOME OF US NEED TO GET A GRIP AND START ACTING LIKE PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NOT ONE OF THE STREET GARBAGE.I'LL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT HIDING IN BUSHES DOING SURVEILLANCE OR STOPPING A HUNDRED CARS A NIGHT ANYMORE AND I KNOW I NEVER WILL AGAIN BECAUSE YOU LIVE AND LEARN,BUT WE SIT IN ROLL CALL AND LISTEN TO THE GUYS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SYSTEM,AND BOSSES AND WHATEVER TYPE OF PERSON THEY HAPPEN TO WORK WITH (WHITE,BLACK,HISPANIC)BUT YET THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT YOU SEE THESE SAME GUYS DOING A BUNCH OF T-STOPS AND S-STOPS. ALL I ASK IS IF UR GONNA WORK DON'T BITCH ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES, IF EVERY TIME YOU TOUCHED AN IRON OR A "SMOOVE" YOU GOT BURNED WOULD YOU KEEP TOUCHING IT? IF YOU CAN'T STOP LOCKING PEOPLE UP,SEE A SHRINK BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MENTAL ISSUE AND IF THERE ARE ANY COPPERS STEALING OR DOING ANYTHING ELSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSE TO THATS MAJOR LIKE THAT DON'T TRUST ME NOT TO OPEN MY MOUTH BECAUSE OTHER THAN YOUR SAFETY...I OWE YOU NOTHING...AND SO WILL EVERYONE ELSE WHETHER THEY WOULD ADMIT IT TO YOU OR NOT.B-SAFE,B-HONEST,AND REMEMBER IF U DON'T LOOK FOR TROUBLE MOST TIMES IT WON'T FIND YOU.TO THE 99% OF THE OTHER COPPERS THAT ARE HONEST AND AS DEPRESSED ABOUT ALL THIS AS I AM HANG IN THERE CAUSE IF YOU ASK MOST NORMAL PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK OF THE SITUATION THEY'D SAY,WHO THE HELL IS JERRY FINNIGAN? WE'LL GET OVER IT,JUST ENJOY SITTIN BACK AND THINKIN WTF? AND THANK GOD I HAVE AT LEAST HALF A BRAIN.
Yes, but you still can't search the pockets of every person in that liquor establishment. EVER. Nice try though. Might want to read up on the fourth Amendment.
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THERE IS A SUPREME COURT CASE THAT RULED THAT AN OFFICER WHO WAS CONDUCTING A PROT. PATDOWN FELT A SMALL ZIPLOCK BAGGIE WHICH CONTAINED A CRUSHED SUBSTANCE AND THROUGH HIS KNOWLEDGE AS A POLICE OFFICER LED HIM TO BELIEVE IT TO BE A BAG OF CANNABIS FOR WHICH HE ENTERED THE SUBJECTS POCKET AND RECOVERED SAID OBJECT AND S.C. RULED THAT WAS ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE. I'M LOOKING FOR THE CASE NOW I WILL POST IT. FUNNY THING ABOUT LAWS IN AMERICA NONE ARE CUT AND DRY, BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ALL THE HOTSHOTS CALL ME A DOGASS BECAUSE I'M BURNT OUT
9/29/2007 11:10:00 PM
You my friend need some psych help,take a deep breath....now exhale
better? now them going into some mexican bar,in some shit neighborhood and getting a little baggy of coke off some pos did nothing for my family but may do wonders for a bunch of other coppers families,when their father is in the joint...your job is what you make of it,my job is what I make of it
-The "new" police
9/29/2007 06:55:00 PM
well here is an idea if you can't do something right don't do it at all.
p.s. took my shoes off the other day in the squad car ohhhhhhhhhh man that was awesome funny thing happened no c.r.,no protest,no stress,no headache,no court deviation,no ulcer,no scumbag constantly yelling in my ear "office,office, what i getting locked up fo?...Trina,Trina go call momma...office,office can u loosin dis cuff?...the windows were up the radio was on "GOOD DAY SUNSHINE,GOOD DAY SUNSHINE" WE GOT A COUPLE OF HOT DOGS FROM A STREET VENDOR...DID HE HAVE A LICENSE? I DUNNO NOR DO I CARE BUT YA KNOW WHAT HE DID HAVE? STEAMED BUNS! HAD SOME RELISH ON THERE BUT YA KNOW WHAT I CALLED IT? PICALILLY! MY PARTNER SAID WHAT ARE YOU 80?! WE LAUGHED SO HARD BLUE JUICE CAME OUT OF OUR NOSE! THAT NIGHT THERE WAS A COOL BREEZE SO I ROLLED THE WINDOW DOWN AND DOZED OFF AND GUESS WHAT MY PARTNER DID? FOUND A SPRINKLER! BOY WAS I WET! OH WELL TIME TO GO NOW GOTTA LOOK THROUGH MY SALE PAPERS GOTTA SPEND THAT CHECK THAT THE CROOKS DON'T GET ANYMORE AND ALL JOKING A SIDE THOSE GUYS WEREN'T COPPERS GOING DOWN THEY WERE CROOKS AND DON'T YOU EVER FORGET THAT! ITS TIME FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET A GRIP BECAUSE AS MY LITTLE BUNDLE OF JOY A TRUE FRIEND ALWAYS SAYS "A HERO AIN'T NUTHIN BUT A SANDWICH"...WHATS UP TONY!
Anonymous said...
Gotta love Finnegan in the SOS pre-requisite black hooded sweatshirt over his uniform. Shows ya that SOS supervisors didn't give a shit or condoned what was going on.
Never wanted to be a Sgt. but if I was there is no fucking way anybody working for me is gonna run around with that shit on.
Like the criminals on the corners. White t-shirts and black pants.
9/29/2007 02:24:00 PM
That is why you will always work a district.
"I never wanted to be a Sgt." is code for I didn't pass the test.
Anonymous said...
I thought I remembered seeing a few of the SOS guys that were indicted in a couple of the pictures they showed on the news after the copper was shot in front of his house in 011. Also heard that he had given a GJ testimony a few days prior (dont' know on what though). Just rumors at this point though.
9/29/2007 04:11:00 PM
Hey asshole! Those guys were off the job way before the p.o. was killed. How then could you see them in photos at the crime scene?
"You dont need PERMISSION to search the bar dumbass! Its called a premise check and everyone inside is fair game!"
You must be in SOS wearing your hoodie and doing the same type of nonsense you see on the tape. Just because you enter a bar doesn't give you carte blanche to go in and search everyone. I'm still waiting for the post about the supreme court case and recovering dope during a pat down search, because you at least need to articulate reasonable suspicion, something these guys did not bother to do. If what was said was true, it is pure laziness and sloppy police work that will jam these guys up. People ask where the supervisors were at, the Sgt on scene, who was also the arresting officer, can be seen on the tape, wearing a black jacket over the uniform. What kind of example are these guys setting? I still have no idea how Zoolander is even on this job let alone a sergeant. I cannot understand how someone sponsored this "Sgt" for promotion, I bet they don't come forward and claim responsibility (but we know who you are). Which leads to the real problem with SOS and the entire department. The lack of competent leadership and management in this department is the main root of all of the problems we are currently having. When you place people in positions because of their political connections or who they know and not based on their ability it is no wonder that an entire unit is running around with no accountability, the supervisors thay have in place are in over their heads and everyone is clouted up so nobody will call anyone on anything for fear of getting dumped (or worse). The feds are coming clowns, and a consent decree is the only thing that is going to weed out the bullshit that happens in this department on a day to day basis.
Anonymous said...
sos should have changed its name to THE SS a long time ago they operate just like NAZIS and THE GESTAPO and they are an embarrassement to the CPD DISBAND THE UNIT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BRING SOME CREDIBILITY BACK TO CPD.
9/30/2007 10:56:00 AM
How are they like the SS?
I didn't see anyone being beaten, or thrown in a gas chamber.
Many here are posting as if this were the rodney king video.
What laws are being broken? I saw no crime being committed on the video. (By the police) I saw pat downs occurring but no hands in pockets.
Just because the video doesn't show what is in the case report means crap. The camera shows only a small outdoor area.
The arrests do not have to take place at the time of said violation.
You are not a p.o.
9/30/2007 09:04:00 PM
To the ass who posted his looong nonsense at above date and time......u can GFY. Period. U are useless
...Not true, I have never heard of The CPD being charge for Perjury and believe me when I say I know for a fact they have been caught hundreds of times. Also if you got juice nothing will happen...
Also, ask the guys who made the gun pinch where the guy was on home monitoring.
Yeah ok Tuffnut, those guys have more juice than 90% of the Sgt.'s they worked for.
Great point!
Typically, coppers don't realize how much juice some PO's have. A percentage have more than most exempts.
Anonymous said...
Everybody knows cops lie all the time on their reports. Even the judge sometimes agrees at traffic court that the cop was wrong.
9/28/2007 11:53:00 AM
You're right and extremely knowledgeable.
The shit-head is honest, his lawyer is honest and the judge is NOT on the take. Man...you are sharp!!
This job sucks, it's gone to dick heads like you and you can have it!
Yeah ok Tuffnut, those guys have more juice than 90% of the Sgt.'s they worked for.
Great point!
Typically, coppers don't realize how much juice some PO's have. A percentage have more than most exempts.
10/01/2007 12:52:00 AM
So What. If you're a Sgt. grow some balls.
Take that shit off you're out of uniform. You look like a jagoff.
Doesn't the Sgt. in SOS also have clout? How did he get there?
Believe me, tact/gangs have plenty of time to do that kind of work. In fact, isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? But I do understand it is difficult to get police work in, have a 2 hours lunch and watch the Cubs game. PLEASE, go to the commander, tell him the issue and if your commander is worth anything, there will be a mission to close down that bar. Been there, done that.
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You jealous pussy you could never work tact and or gangs because it requires making physical arrests and you are too scared and lazy/ Sit on a dick!
There was a supervisor there. Jimmy Eldridge is seen right in the center of the pack leading his crew.
In fact if you watch the whole video, there were three supervisors on the scene. Two sgts, and a Lt. Lt. J.B.. Sgt. J.E. and Sgt. D.C. Maybe Sgt. D.C. wrote the paper on it, he likes writing police fiction.
PATDOWN FELT A SMALL ZIPLOCK BAGGIE WHICH CONTAINED A CRUSHED SUBSTANCE AND THROUGH HIS KNOWLEDGE AS A POLICE OFFICER LED HIM TO BELIEVE IT TO BE A BAG OF CANNABIS FOR WHICH HE ENTERED THE SUBJECTS POCKET AND RECOVERED SAID OBJECT AND S.C. RULED THAT WAS ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE.
Just like the plain view doctrine, it is called the plain feel doctrine.
I'm still waiting for the post about the supreme court case and recovering dope during a pat down search,
Plain Feel, A Second Look
When is it used and what should officers know before using this technique?
by Robert T. Thetford, JD
When Minnesota v. Dickerson, 113 S.Ct. 2130
Be careful with plain touch seizures. You may not manipulate the object to determine what it is. If, while frisking a suspect for weapons, you detect an object that is not a weapon, you may seize it if your experience and sense of touch make it "immediately apparent" to you that the object is contraband or evidence of a crime.
For example, you see a person leaving an apartment building where you know crack cocaine has recently been sold. In patting him down you feel a small lump in his pocket. You can tell it is not a gun or other weapon but cannot immediately identify it. You proceed to squeeze it and move it around with your fingers while leaving in in the pocket. You conclude it is crack cocaine and remove it from his pocket and confirm your suspicion. No good.
Another example. You see two men exiting a vehicle and they flee upon seeing you. You know one of the guys from a previous drug pinch and see him with his hand holding his crotch area as he's running. You catch him and do a pat down and feel a pill bottle in his underwear. You recover it and find crack. It's good. It was immediately apparent during the pat down that it was a pill bottle. That, combined with the suspect fleeing, holding his crotch, and you're having previously pinched him for narcotics, gave you plenty of probable cause that the pill bottle contained contraband.
When using plain touch, you need more than reasonable suspicion, you need probable cause.
So What. If you're a Sgt. grow some balls.
Take that shit off you're out of uniform. You look like a jagoff.
Doesn't the Sgt. in SOS also have clout? How did he get there?
10/01/2007 09:56:00 AM
You have a point!
You jealous pussy you could never work tact and or gangs because it requires making physical arrests and you are too scared and lazy/ Sit on a dick!
10/01/2007 12:51:00 PM
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Very mature and intelligent response!! For your information - have worked tact - 6 years of it until it turned to a numbers game. Worked it when it was REALLY tact. How long do you have on the job? Just curious. It seems for the most part people with less than 10 years on the job really have never learned how to do real police work. Or maybe it is just that the don't want to. Is police work below the new college educated officer? Not sure how they feel, but I do know that 10 years from now this department is going to be in shambles (worse than right now) and I am glad I won't be part of it. If you have something to say, say it and back it up with fact, not vulgarity and name calling - that's how grammar school kids express themselves. GROW UP
You jealous pussy you could never work tact and or gangs because it requires making physical arrests and you are too scared and lazy/ Sit on a dick!
10/01/2007 12:51:00 PM
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Very mature and intelligent response!! For your information - have worked tact - 6 years of it until it turned to a numbers game. Worked it when it was REALLY tact. How long do you have on the job? Just curious. It seems for the most part people with less than 10 years on the job really have never learned how to do real police work. Or maybe it is just that the don't want to. Is police work below the new college educated officer? Not sure how they feel, but I do know that 10 years from now this department is going to be in shambles (worse than right now) and I am glad I won't be part of it. If you have something to say, say it and back it up with fact, not vulgarity and name calling - that's how grammar school kids express themselves. GROW UP
10/02/2007 02:06:00 PM
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2 hour lunches? Maybe when you were on tact in the good ole days...I have 14 years on and 9 on tact. I think I know the ole days and the new. I never had a 2 hour lunch. Maybe you and your crew enjoyed such pleasures. Talking and typing lies in grammar school. Good day college hater.
P.S. I have no college
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