Smoking Ban Costing Taxes
- Casino-goers who take smoke breaks between blackjack hands or rolls of the dice could mean fewer tax dollars for the City of Aurora next year.
Aurora city Finance Director Brian Caputo said he's reduced gaming tax revenue projections by $1.4 million in 2008 to account for the statewide smoking ban's debut on Jan. 1.
Once again, the state sticking it's nose into free market economics. If people don't want to go to some smoke filled bar, casino or whatever, then they won't go. If people want a smoke-free environment, they will seek it out and the market will self correct.
This massive statewide ban on smoking is going to turn around and bite Springfield in the ass the same way Stroger's tax on cigarettes has driven all sorts of county revenue to outlying counties and Indiana. People will shop for bargains where ever they can find them and are willing to travel to get them - witness the success of Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, Costco, etc.
And don't forget - the statewide smoking ban is coming to Chicago bars, restaurants and other venues 01 January. We can hardly wait for aldercreature Tunney to ask if we don't have better things to do than enforce smoking bans.
This massive statewide ban on smoking is going to turn around and bite Springfield in the ass the same way Stroger's tax on cigarettes has driven all sorts of county revenue to outlying counties and Indiana. People will shop for bargains where ever they can find them and are willing to travel to get them - witness the success of Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, Costco, etc.
And don't forget - the statewide smoking ban is coming to Chicago bars, restaurants and other venues 01 January. We can hardly wait for aldercreature Tunney to ask if we don't have better things to do than enforce smoking bans.
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posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
50 Comments:
I have been a bartender for 11 years and I am happy that we will be smoke free come January. People tell me if I don't like the smoke then get out of the bar business but I am a bartender at a bar where I make good money for my family so I have to sacrifice my health for my kids future. Many of us have done this for years and thankfully no longer have to come Jan 1st no thanks to Mayor Daley. The Mayor did everthing he COULD to stop the smoking ban (behind the scenes) but hopefully after cig's are gone from the city maybe the next thing to go is the MAYOR!!
Screw those jerks and their taxes, I make my own smokes now.I'm not going to get into the details but let's say it only costs me about $10.00 a carton.Yeah I know, smokings bad for you, so is being a cop.Roll your own is the way to go if you smoke and I don't mean the old rolled cigarettes by hand, I make filtered cigarettes with fresh tobacco and they are better than marlboro ever was.Screw em' I say.
This is my favorite topic, the banning of cigarette smoking. Those assholes we elect decide to raise taxes to generate money for the state, county, and city. Then turn around and ban smoking, is it me or is something wromg with this picture?
Smoking just sucks, plain and simple.
I'm all for banning smoking everywhere. We'll all finally be able to go out and not come home smelling like smoke. Fuck smokers. It's not my choice to smoke and/or smell like smoke so don't force your fucking gross ass smoking on me. I don't care what it cost the state. Again, fuck gross ass smokers! it's disgusting!
Does this mean that anyone who is smoking at the New Year's Countdown in a bar is in violation of the law as soon as everyone shouts "Happy New Year!" ?
I hate smokers but they agin the dummies generate huge tax revenues now daley will just tax everyone else to get all that money restored! Does that mean if your allowed into the fop offices they will stop smoking at the desks we pay for?
Here (cough, cough), here (cough, cough)!
I quit smoking 20 years ago. Best thing I ever did, next to having sex with myself!
Fuck smokers? What an intelligent comment. Should we fuck meat eaters,suv drivers,boat owners,people who produce more people than the nanny police find acceptable?The fuck everybody else people don't care till they come for them, then they scream the loudest. Think europe in the nineteen thirties.As for the bartender. You know what you signed up for when you took the job. Maybe next they will ban bars. What will you say then? I bet you will scream about the injustice while people who hate bars hail the decision as great victory for everyone's health. Try and look at the world further than the end of your nose.
I thought we lived in a democracy. If you don't like what someone offers then don't patronize it. I'm not a smoker and don't like smelling like cigarette smoke, but there is something un american about this ban.
The government should'nt be allowed to regulate what a buisness offers it patrons. Supply and demand. If the people demand a smoke free place then buisness will have to conform to make money.
It's called capitalism, not socialism.
Banning in government places is understandable.
I can't wait! I'm gonna be drinking alot more! I hate freaking smoke!
SCC, it's those PO's that smoke non-stop the whole tour. I've ridden with 'em, you have too. And at what, $8 a pack? Suckers! You won't be around long enough to enjoy that pension you're paying in to!
This is a Communist run government!
There is NO such thing as a DemocRAT or rePUBlican!
The Communists have taken over already!
I have been a bartender for 11 years and I am happy that we will be smoke free come January. People tell me if I don't like the smoke then get out of the bar business but I am a bartender at a bar where I make good money for my family so I have to sacrifice my health for my kids future. Many of us have done this for years and thankfully no longer have to come Jan 1st no thanks to Mayor Daley. The Mayor did everthing he COULD to stop the smoking ban (behind the scenes) but hopefully after cig's are gone from the city maybe the next thing to go is the MAYOR!!
11/24/2007 12:37:00 AM
Hey Asshat! say goodbye to your good paying job! You'll be in the unemployment line by February!
Everyone will go to Indiana and Wisconsin Bars and Strip joints and smoke $3.00 a pack cigerettes and drink at happy hours!
to the 1st poster:
Uhh we all have to do unhealthy things at times to provide for our families. Thats why your wages are so good as a bartender. So once again like the majority of Chicagoans you want it both ways, and want the government to get it for you.You don't like the smoke then get safety gear like every other occupation that deals with hazardous fumes! Do you think I can get legislation passed where the police don't have to go into cockroach infested shit smelling buildings, I mean it is unhealthy for us,or maybe medical personnel don't have to treat HIV victims they may catch it from them.That wouldn't be healthy either.Yes, I think this could catch on, Streets and San workers don't have to pick up garbage they could contract a disease from it but we of course will still pay them the same. You like us knew the conditions when you took the job.I hope your bar folds for lack of business and I am not even a smoker I just don't like the tactic of government telling people that they can't engage in legal activity on their own property.I think this law like the sodomy laws that you probably were relieved got thrown out should be challenged to the supreme court.
What would Al Capone have done if he had known what a Nanny State Chicago would become?
You get more deadly carcinogens at a bus stop, too.
Ban the buses.
Ban cars.
Ban everything.
Ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban.
Please. Tell me how to live. Please.
Soon we will be like Singapore and ban chewing gum.
"""but the sole reason cigarette addictions persist is because cigs are readily available."""""
Pure Bullshit.
The reason people smoke is because it relieves anxiety and depression. Plus it looks pretty cool.
An lets say you ban smoking in cars with children. Are you next going to ban harsh language, parents arguing, disposable diapers, High Fructose Corn Syrup? ETC...??? When is it OK to raise children the way the PARENTS want to raise them, right or wrong? I can criticize Dan Savage for being a shitty parent for yelling at his son and using fould language, but I would NEVER propose a law that prevents him from doing so, nor would I snitch on another citizen.
Fuck all you Seattle pussy's.
Oh, and if your biggest concern about going to some retarded 30 year old's borthday is smelling like smoke, then you better also avoid the attendent fried food and liquor. Both are very bad for you and make you smell worse.
retards
Wow, if the cost of cigarette litter is so high they need to ban smoking OUTSIDE, jesus we are in trouble! Cause gawd knows I bet if someone were to count actual pounds of trash (ewwwww trash! like OMG TRASHHHHHH) left on the beach or park, cigarettes would not account for much. Where are the bans on fast food? They cause much illness and LOTS of trash.
Also, the great thing about the outdoors is....If someone is smoking around you, pissing around you, fucking around you...guess what??? You can FUCKING walk away! And you are still outdoors. I know *shocking*. Just a friendly FYI for anyone who was confused. I know the 1-2 breaths of 2nd hand smoke WILL KILL YOU, but you know, try and get past the huge smoke cloud before you DIE.
god i hate liberals!!!!!!
p.s- going back to iraq, wanted to let all the liberals know that i will try to kill more then the 9 that i killed last tour... have a good day liberals....
Time to bring back speakeasys.
Why should cigar bars be punished??
You people are absolutely retarded. If you don't like loud music, don't CHOOSE to work at a club.
If you don't like the smell of Nitro-Methane, don't go to the track.
If you don't like smoking.. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE BAR.
You guys act like people are forcing you to go get drunk!? And while you are tearing up your insides with alcohol drinking... and most likely driving home drunk, you're worried about your damned lungs?
Move to California patsys...
Rob Hamilton
www.therealpatriot.net
Does this mean that anyone who is smoking at the New Year's Countdown in a bar is in violation of the law as soon as everyone shouts "Happy New Year!" ?
YES...that is exactly what it means!!! My advice is to watch the new year being rung in on television from New York, have a good long smoke and then go home before midnight here in Chicago, that way you don't have to worry about it.
'm all for banning smoking everywhere. We'll all finally be able to go out and not come home smelling like smoke. Fuck smokers. It's not my choice to smoke and/or smell like smoke so don't force your fucking gross ass smoking on me. I don't care what it cost the state. Again, fuck gross ass smokers! it's disgusting!
11/24/2007 08:52:00 AM
Being the literate and important person you think you are I'd like to thank you for your unimportant little opinion. While I grant your right to smoke or not you might want to consider granting others the same right to use a legal revenue generating product. It's good hear you don't care what the price for the ban is because I know you won't mind when Daley and Stoger shove another tax increase up you your ass to make up for the lost revenue. Have a good life but try not to breathe if you're behind a city bus or in the industrial or TIF manufacturing areas in Chicago.
Technically, yes.
I can think of another nasty habit to ban, how about drinking. I smoke but chose not to drink and I think all drunks are assholes.When I see all the drunks walking to their cars to drive to another dive or their homes I think of all the innocent smokers who have been killed by drunk drivers .How many more lives will it take until we ban drinking.Just another example of socialist politicians getting involved in and screwing up legal commerce.Smoking is bad for you, I agree but are we not adults who can make up our own minds or do we need a nanny state to make sure we are all good little children who are in our beds after 10 pm? Just like the proverbial cooked frog, slowly our rights are eroded until we have no more.Wait until your beer is banned, or maybe your expensive wine is banned, then you will take a stand? No you won't, you are all frogs in the pot.
Hey 06:32:00 AM
That's really smart , This way you are able to kill yourself with your own brand and don't have to wait for Marlbro to do it for you . I smoked for many years and quit to find out 2 years later that I had lung cancer . Keep smoking and you will end up the same way. You and all your fellow smokers are goofs. Take it from a goof that knows. At least I'm still alive after 5 years and a lung removal.You might not be so lucky .
A former smoker said...
Hey 06:32:00 AM
That's really smart , This way you are able to kill yourself with your own brand and don't have to wait for Marlbro to do it for you . I smoked for many years and quit to find out 2 years later that I had lung cancer . Keep smoking and you will end up the same way. You and all your fellow smokers are goofs. Take it from a goof that knows. At least I'm still alive after 5 years and a lung removal.You might not be so lucky .
11/24/2007 08:53:00 PM
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Wah wah wah...........
Gee I did not know better but to put something on FIRE in my mouth and now I can preach to others becuse I am a moron. Get a life dude.
Anonymous said...
I hate smokers but they agin the dummies generate huge tax revenues now daley will just tax everyone else to get all that money restored! Does that mean if your allowed into the fop offices they will stop smoking at the desks we pay for?
11/24/2007 10:14:00 AM
I WAS THERE LAST WEEK THE STENCH OF SMOKE WAS ALL OVER! DO THEY DRINK THERE ALSO? WHAT DO THEY DO? "HEY KID WANNA BUY SOME GOLF TICKETS?"
i love smoking... i do it in the squad car.... ha ha liberials....
So let me get this straight. I can not smoke in a tavern. I can not have fois gras. I can not own a handgun. I can not find shot shells to go pheasant hunting(in chicago)
This isn't Russia, is it Danny?
Im still going to smoke when driving the wagon.
Does this now mean I can be arrested for D/C if i smoke on my balcony?
Ok, no more smoking in public places, no holding a cellphone while driving, you can still talk you just can't hold it, no fois gras, taxes on bottled water and cigarettes. Let's see, what's next? I predict a fast food tax, an alcohol tax, an SUV tax, an internet tax, and a ban on taking care of yourself. The government will do that.
No smoking law,will be like prohibition,people are going to smoke and their going to smoke in bars.Who's going to beef in a neighborhood bar where everybody knows each other?The downtown bars will take the hit not the local bars.
And what state agency is going to enforce the no smoking ban? Do you think that they'll enforce the no smoking in the black and spanish, bars.If they try they'll get their head handed to them.It's all smoke and mirrors,for the politically correct assholes to live in their make believe perfect little world.For those that are inclined to smoke,continue in your local watering hole,nothing will happen.Remember this city banned handguns,and we all know how well that worked!
"Does this mean that anyone who is smoking at the New Year's Countdown in a bar is in violation of the law as soon as everyone shouts "Happy New Year!"
SHHHH!!! You're going to ruin the whole plan. For the last 3 years we having been assembly a crack team of 1,000 officers who's sole purpose is to simultaneously hit every tavern in Chicago at the stroke of Midnight and issue ANOV's to all Caucasian smokers. Any people of color will be given a pass so as not to give the impression that the CPD is racially profiling. We call it the Marlboro Mission. The revenue collected will then be used to plant nice shrubberies in the 7th, 10th, and 11th Districts. Anything left over will go to aide victims cope with the psychological effects of police racism. Now, mums the word.
Imagine all of these ex and non smokers sitting in a bar, oh excuse me you tough guys would be moor comfortable in a lounge sipping your pink ladys, admiring each others abs, gazing into each others eyes.
Just think, you can drink like a fish, get real stupin, smash into things on your way home. AT LEAST YOUR CLOTHES WILL BE SMOKE FREE.
I have no qualms against drinking alcoholic beverages, smoking tobacco or cannabis, gun ownership or consuming fois gras.
Let's go after the real problem. I believe the City Council should ban solitary masturbation. It is just so wrong. We need a big crackdown.
Anonymous said...
Ok, no more smoking in public places, no holding a cellphone while driving, you can still talk you just can't hold it, no fois gras, taxes on bottled water and cigarettes. Let's see, what's next? I predict a fast food tax, an alcohol tax, an SUV tax, an internet tax, and a ban on taking care of yourself. The government will do that.
11/25/2007 11:47:00 AM
Umm they just raised the suv sticker price to $150.00 contained in daleys secret increase folder! guess the new city clerk puppet delvalle does what his puppet master daley tells him to do! Another weak clerk but will devalle also go to jail?
Have you noticed that all the shitheads we arrest smoke?
Why be like THEM?
if IRELAND can be a smoke free and New York, Boston, California......why can't Illinois...i'll tell you because it is the most CORRUPT state ever!!!!!!!!!
Why do we need so many alderman? 50 for what?......
This state is the reason (oh yeah and moe) that Im REPUBLICAN......see what DEMOCRATS have done with this state and especially the city.........burn baby burn!!!!!
I have been a bartender for 11 years and I am happy that we will be smoke free come January.
______________________
Shouldn't you be posting on the Second City Bartender blog?
Well,
I've been a drinker for 40years and I am not happy and this will reflect in your tip!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Fuck smokers? What an intelligent comment. Should we fuck meat eaters,suv drivers,boat owners,people who produce more people than the nanny police find acceptable?The fuck everybody else people don't care till they come for them, then they scream the loudest. Think europe in the nineteen thirties.As for the bartender. You know what you signed up for when you took the job. Maybe next they will ban bars. What will you say then? I bet you will scream about the injustice while people who hate bars hail the decision as great victory for everyone's health. Try and look at the world further than the end of your nose.
11/24/2007 11:46:00 AM......Ahhhh quit whining.Smoke your fucking lungs out at home.Smoke till your heart stops.This isn't about you.Nobody really gives a shit what you do to yourself,just stop inflicting your shitty habits on me.....Do you get it now??
Will the tavern team be doing cigarette pinches??
Buy bulk tobacco, pre-rolled tubes and a loading machine, double-loader is best, a couple of cig cases and you're set.
Better and fresher tobacco, a much wider variety, way more kick and, depending on your taste and choice, a smoother smoke.
Mix in a little pipe tobacco if you want.
And all for less than a third of the cost of pre-packaged cigs.
Depending on the grade of tobacco, between $20 to $40 a pound. You'll get 2+ cartons per pound.
Tubes come 200 per box, $3 retail, and less if you buy 5+ boxes.
Simple, rack-style loading machine between $6 and $10, double, side-by-side loader works well.
If the pocket-pickers jack up the taxes on bulk, Indiana's got plenty of shops and there's always the Internet.
Fuck these tax-and-spend assholes, from both fucked up Political Parties.
You must be a real liberal. You have to stop beleiving that second-hand smoke crowd, they and the global warming shitheads will rot your brain.
Hillary welcomes you to her campaign.
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