SUV's?
Supposedly, 165 Tahoes are parked at 51st Street:
- The Chicago Police Department will quadruple its fleet of gas-guzzling Chevrolet Tahoe SUVs this year -- to more than 200 -- under a contract in the works sure to please Supt. Jody Weis.
Weis has argued that the Police Department's fleet -- 36 SUVs and 2,753 sedans -- is in "horrible" condition and that SUVs make more sense to get through Chicago's winters.
The average beat car is 2.6 years old and has 50,622 miles on it. The average unmarked vehicle is 2.9 years old with 41,285 miles.
What most coppers wouldn't give for a vehicle with only 50,000 miles on it. Fleet claims the mileages are comparable between Tahoes and Crown Vics. A quick google search shows Tahoes at 14 mpg city/19 mpg highway, Crown Vics at 17/25 mpg and Impalas at 16/24 mpg, so once again it seems that Fran publishes what Daley wants rather than what the facts are.
We'd like new cars, don't get us wrong, but it'd make more sense to spend wisely in these economic times. And speaking of spending wisely, you'd think it would make sense to have our own metal working shop that could build or adapt existing computer mounts to get the Tahoes out to the street quicker. You might be surprised to learn that that's exactly what we used to have when the Department ran the garages. Not anymore though. A mount must be designed, submitted for bid, granted to the low bid connected contractor, subcontracted out to someone else and then installed.
Aren't these SUVs supposed to be the ones with the rifle racks?
We'd like new cars, don't get us wrong, but it'd make more sense to spend wisely in these economic times. And speaking of spending wisely, you'd think it would make sense to have our own metal working shop that could build or adapt existing computer mounts to get the Tahoes out to the street quicker. You might be surprised to learn that that's exactly what we used to have when the Department ran the garages. Not anymore though. A mount must be designed, submitted for bid, granted to the low bid connected contractor, subcontracted out to someone else and then installed.
Aren't these SUVs supposed to be the ones with the rifle racks?
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posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
145 Comments:
Daley's privatization racket marches on.
The average beat car is 2.6 years old and has 50,622 miles on it. The average unmarked vehicle is 2.9years old with 41,285 miles.
Isn't rolling back an odometer a federal offence?
I for one will welcome a Tahoe! Beats the Impala that I have now. What a piece of crap!
Think I have a permanant mark from the PDT on my leg.
Id like to see everyone of us beat guys assigned a take home car. I would be willing to look at the numbers and see how much a car costs me a year, and then we could talk about that raise?
If the SUV's don't have four wheel drive, how can they handle better in the Chicago winters?
WTF!!!!!
WHY CAN'T THIS FU*KIN DEPT. GET IT RIGHT FOR ONCE. HOW MANY YEARS OF BULLSHIT EQUIPMENT DOES IT TAKE TO PUT PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE IN CHARGE.
FLEET MANAGEMENT IS A REAL JOKE!!!
EVERY CAR THAT COMES OUT OF 51ST HAS DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT. LIGHT BARS ARE A MISMATCH AND ARE PROGRAMMED TO LIGHT UP IN GOOFY WAYS. MANY CARS HAVE DIFFERENT SIRENS YOU CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A PRIVATE AMBULANCE COMING OR WHAT. PDT'S?? WELL WE JUST CAN'T GET THEM TO WORK AN ENTIRE TOUR OF DUTY AND NOT TO MENTION ONE PDT DOES NOT FIT ALL MOUNTS.
SO ANOTHER STAB IN THE DARK!!!!
LET'S ORDER SUV'S WHICH I'M SURE FLEET GARAGES ARE READY TO WORK ON. I HAVE BEEN ON THE JOB AWHILE AND I'VE YET TO SEE SOME GOOD CHANGES COME FROM FLEET PERSONNEL. TRIAL AND ERROR HAS COST THE TAXPAYERS ALOT OF MONEY.
........NO WONDER WE CAN'T GET A FCKN RAISE!!!!!!!
Here is a snapshot of one.
http://copcardotcom.fotki.com/photographs_of_greg/greg_reynolds--chic/tahoe2.html
Correct me if im wrong, but the SUV's we already have don't have 4 wheel drive, and they are only v6. Whats the point? They also suck for prisoner transport. Give us the Crown Vics!!!!
Why doesn't J-Fed get hybrid cars so we can be the men and women in blue who care about the green.. It will help the liberals like us more...
Our motto can be, "We save lives today and tomorrow"
LOL.
the current that are in use are TWO WHEEL DRIVE;THUS THEY SLIP AND SLIDE WORSE THAN A CROWN VIC IN CRAPPY WEATHER!!!!!!///// Bet city will not spend the extra money and buy the FOUR WHEEL DRIVE MODELS; CHEAP BASTARDS AS USUAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE THROOPS!!!!!////14JUL86.
To all the beat-offs blastin Tru, they do semi-good work, but to counsel any officer if they dont arrest somoeone two days in a row is a joke. Some officers take more pride than locking up DOPW's and pissers. It can take a couple of days to find a drug spot a survey it, but this cant happen with a quota system hangin over ur head. So screw u Tru lts and commander, and get a life all u badmouthin bloggers from behind the desk. Sincerely, Former 153 and current 253
My unmarked is a 1998 with 144,000 miles. And I am not joking.
2 WD is useless in winter on a truck.
If they are so concerned about traveling through the winter weather then shouldnt the vehicles be 4-wheel drive?DUMB.
The little dick must have a new buddy who is a Chevy salesman.
Give the esempts the two wheeler segways (with lights and sirens) make the patrol cars honda prisus (four doors of course) and the the wagons replaced by mini-coopers because I'm not locking up anyone anyway. LOLOLOLOL.
Are they gonna let the head crossing guard in 025 get one? After all he has a marked car now, and multible lockers in the station.
The Tahoes get about the same mileage as the Crown Vics, and you have more room to carry the racks for the M4s, shotguns, or whatever other arsenal that Sgt. "snake" Hamilton will persuade the Supt to allow to be carried in the squads.
Chevy doesn't make the Tahoe in 4WD in a Police Package, only in 2WD.
Obviously the people complaining about the SUVs are not assigned to a beat car!
I could give a rat’s ass if they are 1 wheel drive. The SUVs have a lot more leg room and a much better driver’s line of sight. Who gives a shit if it gets 11 or 33 miles per gallon? Last time I checked the city was paying for the gas!
To the people who are complaining about “slipping” or “tipping over” that just shows you DON’T GET IT YET!!!!!
SLOW DOWN means SLOW DOWN!!
Go to your jobs in a safe manor, give the victims the VIN sheet and then go sit in your vehicle and finish your case report. Listen up for your fellow brothers in blue in case someone needs help!!! That’s IT!!! If you have a prisoner that needs to be transported, call for the wagon.
Look out for each other and stay safe, this city isn’t worth dieing for, ask some gold star family members!!!
wait until you see the new squad car designs; big change. Sort of cool, but tradition is out the window.
be careful what you wish for lad,all new tahoes will be equipped with gps.no more naps for you young wipper snappers!will you be able to justify being parked by the tracks for 5 hours?waa waa waa,mommy we want new tahoes.well,now you have them,gps and all!sneak out of the district for a quick snack at your favorite eatery,busted!event number for special attention-not at the location,busted!19 boy on the bullshit barking dog-you not there,busted! etcetra!
Future taxis for terrorists to use.
God! This Weis and his Daley handlers think were gullible idiots.
Those "nasty Chicago winters". It's not the ice and snow--it's BULLSHIT!
Why not Cadillac Escalades with opaque windows and all the bells and whistles for the suckhole exempts?
Don't get me wrong. I'll take a SUV with winter four wheel drive any day--but NOT at the expense to the taxpayers and OUR SALARIES!
Perhaps, the City can distribute a fleet of the Lexus RX400h (hybrid 28 mpg city) to all the "green" commanders, GXs to deputy chiefs and the top-of-the-line LXs for chief and above.
Follow the MONEY TRAIL back from General Motors to the fifth floor at City Hall.
If the Stuttering Prick was CEO of ENRON, it would have gone under more than a decade ago. He makes a drunken sailor look frugal.
How much does this corrupt Machiavellian cocksucker got $ta$hed away in the banks of Switzerland, Lichtenstein and the Grand Caymans?
Not to mention the fact these things flip over real easily...I've seen them flip after clipping a parked car at only 25 mph. Once again, this City can't get shit right.
I hope Fleet does a better job at installing the equipment. Got to love these new cars they put out with the wiring hanging all over and when you get in your foot ripes it out, then your equipment dosen't work no more...
With the fleet now getting SUV's we will not need wagons anymore. These SUV's are roomy, so lets cut the wagons and put those guys back in cars so they can do some "REAL" police work.
OT: Since it's ok for Jessie Jackass to throw around the N-word will SCC be allowing it's use now?
-being that this is typed I will have to tell you that you cannot hear the sarcasm in my voice- Where is the outcry? Why are sponsors not pulling funds from all that Jackson is involved? The double standard in the country makes me sick. Don't tell me it's ok because he is black...FUCK THAT!
I LIVE IN 60646 ZIP AND YOU CANT SWING A DEAD CAT WITHOUT HITTING A CITY TAKE HOME CAR. MUST BE NICE.
"Sincerely, Former 153 and current 253
7/19/2008 03:39:00 AM"
Should have just signed your post KNOB GOBBLER,then we'd know exacty who you are. SUCKHOLE!
OT: How about the eight Chicago Fire Inspectors taking bribes. CFD said the are considering suspensions or termination for the eight. How about indictments on them, if they were CPD thats what would happen, probably Federal....
the current that are in use are TWO WHEEL DRIVE;THUS THEY SLIP AND SLIDE WORSE THAN A CROWN VIC IN CRAPPY WEATHER!!!!!!///// Bet city will not spend the extra money and buy the FOUR WHEEL DRIVE MODELS; CHEAP BASTARDS AS USUAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE THROOPS!!!!!////14JUL86.
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Yes they are 2WD. Was told they cannot get 4WD w/ the police package that is on them. (don't know how true that is). But I do know this past winter my partner and I had no problems at all and we had a dacent amount of snow.
Why doesn't J-Fed get hybrid cars so we can be the men and women in blue who care about the green.. It will help the liberals like us more...
Our motto can be, "We save lives today and tomorrow"
LOL.
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The ones we have now run on E85. However e*% has turned out to be a lie. They use 20-30% more fuel than the expected 10% therefore just as costly to run and jackin the price of your corn up....in other words we're gettin it up the cornhole.
Had a pool car with 175,000 on it once. I asked the dude at the pumps whats the most he has seen. Said there are several wagons and cars that come through above 200,000.
I know my assigned unmarked squad has 185,000 miles, its a 1999 Ford Vic.
The creame of the crop no air, hole in the floor (does make for great ash tray), rear windows do not work, and shifting column is off (must put in nuetral to drive). I have to down the car to get a better car. Gotta love this town.
After watching the news the other night I thought , wouldn't a stand up wagon...like the "safe" proposal thay are tossing out as an alternate for riders of the public transportation system, be a great idea.
Like days past, fill em up and truck em home (jail). No fuss, no mess.
No safety rails, seats, wires etc.
Think of the $$ saved if we had stand up prisoner processing sites, stand up courts, and stand up services city wide. Stand up judges, stand up bosses etc...
Go Hubie!
THAT AMOUNT SHOULD JUST B ENUFF FOR ALL THOSE GO GETTER SGTS.
U KNOW THE SGTS THAT DONT RESPOND WHEN U ASK 4 A TASER.
I don't want a rifle rack. I'd rather have a shoe rack and coffee holder.
The Tahoes SUCK in the rain, and are downright dangerous in the snow. Without the 4wheel drive you are far better with the Crown Vic or Impala. Any suggestion otherwise is a lie.
It will be interesting to see exactly how many of these SUVs actually wind up in the police dept. I have a feeling that this will be the latest status symbol and that several will be on body guard details and assigned to other "cityhall" flunkies.
Hey SCC how about we send you pictures for you to post of the insides of these junk squad cars we have to drive?
Wires hanging all over dirty smelly ripped seats. Interior psrts always missing.
Then the media/public can really see what its like??? My squad has over 130,000 miles on it.
Why didn't they just go with smaller newer cars, then more officers would have the chance to be driving something new instead of a beat car with 180k miles on it? Hence more newer patrol cars on our streets.
Something similiar to the cars in berwyn (no, not the cars on the former sculpture pole... lol..).
more hype, just another stupid idea not fully thought through by our new glorious leader j-fed. eews and ahhs seeing suvs on the streets. useless pieces of junk with no 4 wheel drive. now we're spending more on gas to operate these suvs and they preform worse on the oh so common non plowed streets and alleys of Chicago. duh, way to go braniac.
Actually if they got you all some sort of hybrid of electric+gas, you could get WAY better accelleration when rounding corners.
Nothing beats the accelleration of electric.
GM is in serious financial trouble and is offering HUGE discounts and incentives to purchase vehicles ... particularly SUVs. Since John Q Public wont buy a Tahoe, the incentives are offered to to fleet purchasers
It is all about the $$$$$ ... the money they save with the Tahoes is greater than the $$$$$ spent on fuel
To all the beat-offs blastin Tru, they do semi-good work, but to counsel any officer if they dont arrest somoeone two days in a row is a joke. Some officers take more pride than locking up DOPW's and pissers. It can take a couple of days to find a drug spot a survey it, but this cant happen with a quota system hangin over ur head. So screw u Tru lts and commander, and get a life all u badmouthin bloggers from behind the desk. Sincerely, Former 153 and current 253
7/19/2008 03:39:00 AM
You crack me up how you refer to TRU as "THEY" do semi-good work, then you sign it "current 253" are you too good to be known as tru? put it this way, Vern will have two openings come next month. Mark my words.
OH GOODY!!! WOW, WE GET TO PAY HIGHER TAXES, AND IF WE EVER GET A RAISE IT WILL DEFINITELY WILL NOT COVER THE RISE IN TAXES...
WAY TO GO MIDGET, JFED, AND WHOEVER HAS THE CONTRACT TO SELL AUTOS TO THE CITY.
HOORAY FOR US!!!!! SAME OLD STORY, WE DO MORE FOR LESS!!!! THANK YOU GUYS, YOU REALLY DO HATE US!!! WHAT'S NEXT? WE GET TO PAY FOR THE GAS FOR OUR POLICE VEHICLES OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS!!!
LOVE YOU GUYS...KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK...KEEP COLLECTING YOUR UNEARNED OVERSIZED PAYCHECKS...WE DEEPLY APPRECIATED YOUR GENEROSITY. YOU ARE OUR IDOLS...THE POLICE AND THEIR FAMILIES ADORE YOU...YOU LET US PAY FOR EVERYTHING INCLUDING GANG BANGING NON WORKING SCUM. THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR US.
OH WAIT, I MUST BE DREAMING, YOU PEOPLE ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH. YOU LOVE GANG BANGERS AND THE LITTLE GANG BANGERS THEY ARE RAISING TO VOTE FOR YOU.
BYE NOW... HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!
1. RWD is not any worse in the snow than the Crown Vics are.
2. Check fueleconomy.gov... city MPG is 14 for the Tahoe and 15 for the Crown Vic
Would it have been smarter to buy Ford Escape Hybrids?
They are far better on gas mileage and would be ideal for all stupervisors since they NEVER transport any prisoners! For them to get a gas guzzling Tahoe is just plain DUMB!
Hell, even taxi companies are buying up "Ford Escape Hybrids" and their drivers love them because they are saving a ton of money on gas!
And, all the new SUV's will have a "GoodHumor truck" like speaker on the front playing a continuous loop of " U DOWN WITH CPD IN THE SUV...U DOWN WITH CPD IN THE SUV..." Oh, and I already got the contract for the spinny rims..suckas...
Truck chassis vehicle = Can't chase at all per General Order.
I think the Beat vehicle for the CPD being a mini-cooper is a great idea. They're fuel efficent, they handle well, they can navigate well in alleys and they are relatively in expensive.
Where prisoner transportation is required of a couple of arrestees you have a Chicago Cab dispatched (the non owner operator type with the back seat partition), you have the aresstees handcuffed in the back seat (and handcuffed to the back seat partition in the Cab). Then the Cab drops them off at the police station while the mini-cooper squad follows.
In the interim while waiting for the Cab the arestees can be cuffed to the front bumper as the Officers stay warm or cool, whatever the case may be in the Cooper squad. The squad can be equipped blankets in the back to keep Pookie an Poo warm in the Winter months.
The transportation and insurance cost of this type of arestee transportation is more then offset by the fuel savings realized from scaling down from the Crown Vics.
Just throwing it out there as a thinking out of the box thought.
I wonder how much the cost difference is between a Tahoe & a Crown Vic? Then I'd like to know the difference on emergency equipment since it seems that the city puts 2 lightbars on every Tahoe. What an idiot idea.
Signed: Roscoe Rules
SCC: I evaluated the Tahoe. The particlar model had a V-8 and was very fast. A number of problems though:
(1). The vehicle is top heavy; if the driver turns too sharp and it'll rollover.
(2). Another problem is the vehicles weight. The brakes will burn up and become ineffective after three hard braking incidents in a short period of time (such as a short chase).
(3). The vehicle is higher up. Trying to get a resisting arrestee up into the vehicle.
(4). The vehicle is too large. Try to reverse in a Chicago alley and you better get the "Damage to Department Vehicle Report" out. You'll hit that telephone pole you didn't see.
J-Fed is trying hard to get us equipment. Unfortunately, he doesn't have street experience to know sh!t from shinola. Somebody at HQ blew some smoke up his ass when they touted the virtues of the Tahoe.
Another young person shot to death last night in 10.
The children are being slaughtered in this City because the Little Guy on the 5th floor cannot be moved. Even the Feds can't or won't put him away.
If there is someone out there who can who can reason with the Little Guy tell him this is what he needs to do immediately:
TAKE THE GLOVES OFF (IE) N.Y. GUILIANNI RULE
J-Fed to a terrorism/olympic unit; (OUT OF CPD)
Bring back Guthrie, Mauer or someone with street balls to run this Dept. and take the streets back;
Eliminate the TRR.;
Allow cpd to sign disorderly complaints against the bangers;
Re Hire immediately retired PO'S who want to work the street and mix it up with the bangers;
Hire more PO's.
Everyone's upset because we have old cars. Now everyone's upset because we have new cars. Can anyone be satisfied. I for one welcome the Tahoe. Much more comfortable ride, and much safer if you're in an accident.
Correct me if im wrong, but the SUV's we already have don't have 4 wheel drive, and they are only v6. Whats the point? They also suck for prisoner transport. Give us the Crown Vics!!!!
7/19/2008 02:41:00 AM
Check out the gear ratio in the differntials on SUV's.....you do know what I'm talking bout?
Hey Fleet Managment get off your ass and start looking at the district's to see who needs new cars. My piece of shit Chevy finally died in January of this year and I have been driving numerous pool cars for the past seven months. Of course the mount doesn't work so no computer and yesterday the fan died, no A/C or vent air. At this moment I could care less which type of vehicle I get, JUST GET ME ONE THAT WORKS!!!
at least the tahoes have plenty of room to take naps and watch ur dvd player cause anyone out there doin police work servin the savages of this city are nuts let em all kill each other who gives a fuk
Anonymous said...
If the SUV's don't have four wheel drive, how can they handle better in the Chicago winters?
7/19/2008 01:31:00 AM
Why Office, there will be a larger area for you and a few other coppers to PUSH it through the snow.
it does'nt matter these dumbfucks wont spend the extra $ for 4x4
I will take anything that has brakes and starts at this point. The past week i have had 2 cars overheat. 1 with bad brakes and 2 with no AC. I can do without the AC if necessary but i prefer a little bit with 95 degree days and a vest and 25 lbs of equipment on. I couldnt tell u the last time i drove a squad with under 50k miles, damn we r lucky to get one under 105k
Hey TRU dat,you guys still coming in with 1 baggers and 4po's as 2 surf the net?just axing
just remember per g.o. you can't chase in an suv. get the message yet
I left Area 1 at 6am this morning threre are no Tahoes parked anywhere!! And there are no unmarked pool cars anywhere. My last unmarked pool car had 123,000 miles, no siren, no emergency equipment, no PDT mount, no passenger side mirror, a crooked seat that was literaly on an angle, and it couldn't shift itself past second gear. What are these people on, fleet is dangeous and ineffective all our vehicles blow.
Congraluations Mike!
At least you made the first three cuts! You were just one of many talented, respected & knowledgeable exempts dismissed by J-Fed who himself wouldn't last 2 weeks in a beat car.
Now you can move out of this sinking, crumbling, corrupt & unsafe City and enjoy your pension.
Remember everyone: The last person out is to shut the lights off. Wait a minute the lights will already be off for lack of payment.
YEAH RIGHT, THEY TA-WHORES SENSE, JUST LIKE THE SGT SUVS...THAT ARE ONLY 2 WHELL DRIVE.
More crappy GM vehicles, bring on the crap
Many years ago they decided to downsize and get rid of the shoebox Chevys and Dodges.We ended up, depending what area you worked, with Plymouth Aspens,Ford Fairmonts,or Chevy malibus.I don't think they got a full years use out of any of those models.They just could'nt take the day to day beatings.
It goes to show you Weis, Daley, NOBODY here knows a fuckin' thing about cars.
2 wheel drive Ta-HOES getting stuck in the snow and taxpayers getting stuck with paying for more gas that they suck up.
253 guy......WHY ARE YOU STILL THERE ?
.2x4 drive makes these vehicles a poor choice. Winters these things slip and slide in rain they slip. They are so bad that allot of older one have minor damage. Broken mirrors small dents around the sides corners. Chicago has lots of narrow streets where these will have difficulty navigating. Can’t chase with these either.
Great - an SUV with 2 wheel drive. Apparently J-Fed hasn't tried to navigate our narrow sidestreets yet this winter.
Give the SUV's to the bosses - burn all those damn Impalas, gimme a Crown Vic that isn't in the shop every other month for BS. And since we're in dreamland right now a PDT that works and doesn't block the light box.
How about the new SMART car? Only 8 feet long and 37 city mpg and still enough seating room for a 7-footer. No need for a rear seat.
They even have a neat storage spot for your shoes and gun belt. The passenger seat reclines.
The iPod connection is standard. A 6-disc CD player would be nice. Order the ForTwo model in either white or blue, slap on a couple of decals and we're ready to roll--to the hole.
OT but I heard that Vera on Zone 9 gave the 22nd district desk a tongue lashing for stepping on a unit in a footchase last night asking about some nonsense in Merrionette Park. Her she handled it like a pro
Did you see the new wagons???? They look like ice-cream trucks. Bangers are laughing at them. Money well spent...Idiots!!!!
Nevermind the winters, it's the frigging potholes and g-damn speedbumps that make me want a Tahoe. I avoid driving down streets with them anyway.
Aren't they flex-fuel or E-85?
The city might have gotten a deal on the Tahoes with gas over $4 a gallon.
What you dont realize is that the City gets the vehicles dirt cheap. They dont pay road tax and sales tax and city and state tax on the gas like you and me do. The get to buy the gas just likre the farmers do. NO TAX. This means the city is paying about $2.50 a gallon for gas. They are not concerned about fuel prices just like they dont car about giving our money away in bullshit lawsuits. When it comes to the city money is never an issue until it involves your SALARY!.
As of yesterday my squad car has 196,234
I'm sure J-Fed's vehicle has a working defroster so that come this winter he won't have to have the hand held scraper on the front seat to scrape the frost and ice off of the inside of the window. Or better yet, I bet he has working heat in his vehicle so that you aren't wearing artic socks and long underware just to keep warm inside the squad. I guess the squads fit into the neighborhoods and can be classified as Ghetto Cruisers. Wake up J-Fed, think of the moral boost you would create to have squads that actually work for your men!
Well I have lived in chicago my whole life and have been on this job for 21 years. I have never had a 4 wheel drive vehicle on the CPD.
The problem is that the new breed does not know how to drive a vehicle that does not have front wheel drive. The a front wheel drive vehicle can be a blessing under some conditions but if you know how to drive any rear wheel two wheel drive vehicle is just fine 364 days a year in chicago.
Forget about being "Green" forget about the milage. It's all about being safe and being "Blue". That is except for the few who are "yellow" and those who are "Brown nosers"
How long before oily Eddie Burke will demand a nice new black SUV to haul his cowardly ass around in?
Does this political parasite even own a car of his own?
the SUVs we have right now are death traps! if you pull the handle to open the door, they don't open! you have to press the lock button and then open it!
tahoes what a joke!! the 2wd is not a safe vehicle to drive in the rain let alone in the snow. they make the second row big enough to fit shaq, and squish the front row. Give these to the exempts and give us their cars, call earl schieb, paint em white, throw a little red light on top and they will be much better than the tahoes.
What happened to the dodge chargers?
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
Scroll down page to video:
ABC News story tells the truth about guns
How bout something more practical like M2a2 Bradlys or Strykers??
who cares ... next
Aoo of you should read up on the Chevy Tahoe police package before you start bashing the ride....Yah...it doesn't have 4 wheel drive ...true but if you know what you are getting with the police package I am sure you would be semi pleased.....probably not. With all of you rocket scientists on this department, you would fuck up half of the fleet anyway because you would be tooling around on the highway in 4 wheel drive and fuck up the trans...so 2 wheel drive is what we get...look at the Tahoe's already given out...how many were flipped?? We historically drive like jagoffs...myself included so why spend the extra $4,000 on a 4 wheel drive car that will no doubt end up crashed or in the shop within the first 6 months of issue?? I would love to have a 4 wheel drive truck but money wise it isn't worth it the way we beat on these cars and the way the recurits drive them....At least we are getting something new...be semi happy.
I wonder if the city got the 5000 dollar cash back incentive with the extra 1000 loyalty cash incentive along with 0% financing for 72 months.
anonymous said...
SCC: I evaluated the Tahoe. The particlar model had a V-8 and was very fast. A number of problems though:
(1). The vehicle is top heavy; if the driver turns too sharp and it'll rollover.
(2). Another problem is the vehicles weight. The brakes will burn up and become ineffective after three hard braking incidents in a short period of time (such as a short chase).
Chases are forbidden in a Tahoe, but who dares get in a chase anymore? Fast way to some lengthy time off.
I would like a Lincoln Navigator myself. I would get to jobs in the same amount of time but I would feel better doing it.
My take home has 60k miles and has 3 scratches on the passenger side door. I hope I'll be in line for one of the new cars. It sucks having to park a crappy looking car in front of my nice house. And you know how pissed i get when I have to stop at the fuel pumps on the way home because the gas mileage is so bad. Can't wait for a shiny new one with better fuel economy. Anyone know if they ordered any in charcoal gray?
Does anybody else remember J-Fed driving around in a black Tahoe w/MICHIGAN dealer plates on it when he first started here...
these vehicles will be issued to the canine unit first.
Can we just cut the B*S already??? Tahoes??? I mean cmon... we dont need them. We need 2008 Hummer H2s with 32in rims and a 1,000,000 wat sound systems with horns that play La Cucharacha. I mean cmon, thats the only way we can truely get intouch with the community...yo.
SRT
OFF TOPIC:READ CHICAGO TRIBUNE ARTICLE ON FRAUD BY NUMEROUS WEST SIDE REVERANDS STEALING AND MISMANAGING $20,OOO STATE BLOCK GRANTS DESIGNATED FOR EDUCATION.LOOKS LIKE MANY WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVS GONNA BE GOING TO JAIL!IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION BY TRIBUNE-STATE SENATOR RICKY HENDON ALLEGED MASTERMIND BEHIND CONSPIRACY.HOPE FITZGERALD HAS THE BALLS TO NAIL THEM ALL.THIS WILL BE A BIG ONE SCC!TIME TO PAY BACK THE POLICE HATING,RACE BAITING WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVERANDS WHO WE ALL KNOW FRONT AND MONEY LAUNDER FOR THE WEST SIDE GANG AND DRUG EMPIRES!!
SUV or crown vic it doesnt matter all I do is write reports for every silly ass call to make the crime rate go up and then take a nice lunch. stop by the pumps have it gassed up then a personell, Then get an event number for whatever B.S sounds good IE park check,school check then call it a day. No contract no real police work let the city burn.
To 7/19/2008 01:31:00 AM
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In regards to the 2wd vs 4wd. At the airport ( with aviation money ) we have 4wd trucks. Everything is heavy duty so its the same as a "police package".
The only trouble is we also have fleet, so they buy the worst parts for the most money, never have anything in stock and can't get what you need.
Other than that the vehicles are ok.
The tahoes the dept are getting are bargain priced, chevy is giving the things away right now
There are brand new marked cars with no cages or light bars sitting in station lots all over the city.
THE STAFF FROM HEADQUARTERS USES THEM TO DRIVE TO AND FROM WORK. THEY PARK THEIR PERSONNEL CAR AT A STATION, THEN PICK UP THE MARKED CAR FOR THE DRIVE TO 35TH STREET, THEREBY SAVING THEMSELVES GAS MONEY!!!
I believe they are headquarters lunch cars, or official business cars that are granted to the privileged to save gas costs for themselves.
On a weekend we have NO pool cars!
Yet, these vehicles sit unused except for the workers of the Ivory tower (35th St. Headquarters)
Go check your station parking lots in the evenings and week-ends!!
If that crazy guy on days in 025 can drive one without crashing it, anybody can. He's had more accidents than even Maria did and she had plenty. But he never smashed up the SUV. We all thought he would. We even had a pool going about how long it would take him to total one. But they took it away from him before he could. Now his boss on 20 drives it.
Anybody see the new prototype wagon the city trotted out for a week? 2 compartments, front one has a bench seat for two with seat belts. Rear compartment has six bucket seats with two seatbelts (lap and shoulder) per seat. Better than that silly van motor maintenance came up with. Maybe the reason why city cant keep wagons up in districts and why some districts are using cars as wagons
"But I do know this past winter my partner and I had no problems at all and we had a dacent amount of snow.
7/19/2008 09:27:00 AM"
You had a partner riding with you?
The Tahoe was discussed in detail in this blog over 5 months ago. It had nothing to do with Weis.
35th street had been looking at buying these since last summer and are just getting around to the purchase now.
Fleet has no say so as to what is purchased for the dept., it's all from 35th st. (budget), who knew last year that gas would be 4 a gallon?
If we need more suv's they better look at the escape hybrid!
So be happy and drive whatever they hand out. Anything new is better than what we have.
Just give me a FUCKING cupholder!!!!
Aoo of you should read up on the Chevy Tahoe police package before you start bashing the ride....Yah...it doesn't have 4 wheel drive ...true but if you know what you are getting with the police package I am sure you would be semi pleased.....probably not. With all of you rocket scientists on this department, you would fuck up half of the fleet anyway because you would be tooling around on the highway in 4 wheel drive and fuck up the trans...so 2 wheel drive is what we get...look at the Tahoe's already given out...how many were flipped?? We historically drive like jagoffs...myself included so why spend the extra $4,000 on a 4 wheel drive car that will no doubt end up crashed or in the shop within the first 6 months of issue?? I would love to have a 4 wheel drive truck but money wise it isn't worth it the way we beat on these cars and the way the recurits drive them....At least we are getting something new...be semi happy.
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27 years on this job and the cars i have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases(yes, we were actually allowed to chase in the 80s and 90s.)
chevy caprice box style 1 wreck
old ford crown victoria 1 minor
chevy caprice bubble 1 minor
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
new crown vic 1 minor
chevy tahoe....the 4th day I drove it as a sgt flipped and rolled twice out of work for 2 months...i knew what i was getting into considering i drive a yukon as my personal car(very similar to tahoe). these trucks should not be used for police work. I know this is only my one personal experience and some people may like them but its just something to think about...by the way, every accident ive been in my career has a squad car flipped over and the longest amount of time ive had to take was 9 days off..until the tahoe incident that is.
OFF TOPIC:READ CHICAGO TRIBUNE ARTICLE ON FRAUD BY NUMEROUS WEST SIDE REVERANDS STEALING AND MISMANAGING $20,OOO STATE BLOCK GRANTS DESIGNATED FOR EDUCATION.LOOKS LIKE MANY WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVS GONNA BE GOING TO JAIL!IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION BY TRIBUNE-STATE SENATOR RICKY HENDON ALLEGED MASTERMIND BEHIND CONSPIRACY.HOPE FITZGERALD HAS THE BALLS TO NAIL THEM ALL.THIS WILL BE A BIG ONE SCC!TIME TO PAY BACK THE POLICE HATING,RACE BAITING WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVERANDS WHO WE ALL KNOW FRONT AND MONEY LAUNDER FOR THE WEST SIDE GANG AND DRUG EMPIRES!!
7/19/2008 08:38:00 PM
How I would love to be the guy to put the cuffs on the Rev. Robin Hood. I would even volunteer to do it on my own time on my day off.
The Tahoes are very slippery in the snow and rain and they are top heavy. Drive them like you would the wagon.
Off Topic but something for next year's Taste of Chicago Organizers. World's largest Block Party Results:
0 Homicides
0 Agg Batts
0 Shots Fired
0 Shitheads
0 Arrests
A few sidewalk inspectors
10,000 drunks over a two day period and not one police incident.
$40 at the door with 5 drink tickets, beer, soda, etc.
Oh and 1,000 contact cards on blonds, brunettes and redheads.
i JUST WISH I could get 180,000 miles out of my personal car. My unmarked dick car, would make Henry Ford proud, I'm on my fourth rebuilt transmission, and the air still works. I add my own freon, the ignition is stripped, the emergency equipment is been out for two years, I cant believe how the old whore wont die. I hope she makes it through August, I'm just afraid leaving the area using the expressway in case a wheel breaks off. its amazing running on two shifts with different drivers.
I imagine if the cars were taken care off professionally (replacement parts replaced before breakage, struts, shocks springs, alternator's)by real mechanics other than fleet the cars would make 200 thousand plus miles
When are the new cruisers suppose to hit the streets?
27 years on this job and the cars i have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases(yes, we were actually allowed to chase in the 80s and 90s.)
chevy caprice box style 1 wreck
old ford crown victoria 1 minor
chevy caprice bubble 1 minor
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
new crown vic 1 minor
chevy tahoe....the 4th day I drove it as a sgt flipped and rolled twice out of work for 2 months...i knew what i was getting into considering i drive a yukon as my personal car(very similar to tahoe). these trucks should not be used for police work. I know this is only my one personal experience and some people may like them but its just something to think about...by the way, every accident ive been in my career has a squad car flipped over and the longest amount of time ive had to take was 9 days off..until the tahoe incident that is.
7/19/2008 11:06:00 PM
Judging by your admission to these accidents, it seems like YOU are the problem. Don't they call you Crash? or Moron with Stripes?
YEAH RIGHT, THEY TA-WHORES SENSE, JUST LIKE THE SGT SUVS...THAT ARE ONLY 2 WHELL DRIVE.
7/19/2008 02:23:00 PM
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Am I one of the only people who can spell? What the fuck? Read before you hit submit.
With all of you rocket scientists on this department, you would fuck up half of the fleet anyway because you would be tooling around on the highway in 4 wheel drive and fuck up the trans.
Pretty much any larger SUV now days can come with full time four wheel drive. No more shift on fly or buttons to push.
OFF TOPIC: IT'S NOT THE FREAKN CAR THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN PATROL..... VERY PLAIN AND SIMPLE....... SUPERVISORS !!!! TREAT YOUR PEOPLE WITH RESPECT.....YES !! I SAID RESPECT AND EVEN THE FCKN FOOT GUY WILL PRODUCE.
I ONCE DROVE A 95 CHEVY CLOSE TO 100,000 MILES AND HAD NO PROBLEM WORKING UNTIL ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WHITE SHIRTS WANTED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE COMPANY MAN BY SCREWN OVER THE BLUE SHIERT......... UNTIL THAT'S REVERSED.... GOOD LUCK TRYING TO MOTIVATE THE TROOPS!
the reason the cars slip and slide is because of traction. the tires are the problem. i have a rear wheel drive car with dedicated snow tires that will run rings around your '4 wheel drive vehicle with all-season tires.' go to tirerack.com and see the results of snow tires vs. all-season vs. 4-wheel drive.snow tires cost around 450.00 for four tires and no penalty for gas mileage like an suv and the crown vic will perform much better. these are not your daddy's snow tires.
Anonymous said...
How long before oily Eddie Burke will demand a nice new black SUV to haul his cowardly ass around in?
Does this political parasite even own a car of his own?
7/19/2008 04:36:00 PM
Why own a car? when you get a new crown vic every 6 months and next time look in the rear seat he even had a "reading lamp" installed so he can dictate what he reads to the servants driving his lazy ass around! Liked how he kissed j-feds ass at the hearings, why eddie becuase your a scared man afraid his detail amy be moved and made to work more than 2on and 3 off schedule? WTF! your guys make D-3+ pay and your loyalty is great how you dumped your loyal guy to 008 awhile ago because you wanted someone else? great job eddie but then again your "above the law" and do whatever you want and frown on anyone who dares cross the king! You could use the big suv eddie though, you could maybe put a roof mounted dvd so you could watch more ben hur movies and dream! It would be ggod to have when the servants drive you outside the city on "official business" to your mansion in wisconsin! Amazing how your servants have a free city gas card paid for by police so you can fuel at any BP station plus more places while we pay for it! You have 4 million in your campaign accounts alone can't you even pay for fuel?
check GMFLEET.COM and you wills ee there that the 2009 Police package Tahoe can be ordered 4X4, not that they will. It is also built lower to the ground so it is pursuit rated,not that u'll chase in it
I for one love my Vic. I liked the one before it that didn't need to get turned into a pool car at 75,000. It did two tours a day and between the 6 or so different drivers, it was really in excellent shape. We took care of it as best we could with the shambles our fleet is doing. The worst thing I ever heard was when it went in for a brake job and I happened to over hear the manager at A2 garage say to the mechanic to put a good used set of pads and rotors on! WTF. Please keep buying the Crown Vics...they are truly good cars for what we need them for.
27 years on this job and the cars I have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases . . .
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
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LIAR!
We never had diplomats.
4 Wheel drive is just an expensive luxury, it is more expensive to maintain and fuel economy suffers.
It really isn't neccessary here. The roads are typically cleared off quickly.
I owned a Ford explorer 4x4. In 5 years I used the four wheel drive maybe 3 or 4 times, mainly for peace of mind during bad weather. But honestly, I would have gotten to my destination without using it.
It's all about knowing how to drive in snow.
For example, I drove my Mazda miata (rear drive)one winter where we had record snowfall. I didn't get stuck all winter. But would laugh my ass off at all the road ranging assholes in the 4 wheel drive range rovers, BMWs etc,that believed four wheel drive allows you to drive faster in shit weather.Miles later I would drive by them after they spun-out into a ditch, and honk and give them a wave with my middle finger and continue my trip to the west suburbs. Fucking yuppies!
To the under 30 coppers, you can't drive a car today in the winter unless it's equipped with TRACTION CONTROL.You bunch of whiners!
I learned to drive in snow with a 1972 Dodge Monocco with 400C.I. engine, rear wheel drive, with bias ply tires. It did just fine. Even my mother could drive in snow!
Who gives a shit if it gets 11 or 33 miles per gallon? Last time I checked the city was paying for the gas!
Yer a complete DIPSHIT, idiot. Where the FUCK do you think the money to pay for that overpriced gas comes from?
GOD what a total idiot. It's jagoff's like you who give the head asshole the excuse to keep fucking this city over with taxes.
You had a partner riding with you?
7/19/2008 10:03:00 PM
Yes, I do every day....why wouldn't I?
Just some info: The police package on the Tahoe lowers the vehicle in both the front and rear to prevent roll overs (or at least stablize the vehicle a bit more). They dont offer a 4WD police package either.
27 years on this job and the cars i have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases(yes, we were actually allowed to chase in the 80s and 90s.)
sounds like 420 on third watch. you are still useless.
Will these SUVs be big enough for my fishing rods and hunting rifles, BBQ grill and lawn chairs.
Besides 4wD for what, we don't have that much snow. Oh maybe its gor getting through the bullshit from city hall and 35th St.
Whaaaaahhh.. Give you crybabies a brand new truck and you still bitch and complain..
this is the problem with taking averages in something like the police department. My beat car has 4500 miles on it since it is brand new. The neighboring beat car has 110000 miles on it because it is several years old. The average between the two of us is 57250.
Problem is NO beat car has 'average' miles on it. Save maybe the 'CAPS' cars........
Someone heard Unit 477, E.T. South is suppose to get 17 of those SUVs. Maybe they'll get the new computers too? Not!
Drove a pool car around for 2 weeks with 136,000 miles on it, fred flinstone holes in the floor and chicken bones in the back seat.
OFF TOPIC:READ CHICAGO TRIBUNE ARTICLE ON FRAUD BY NUMEROUS WEST SIDE REVERANDS STEALING AND MISMANAGING $20,OOO STATE BLOCK GRANTS DESIGNATED FOR EDUCATION.LOOKS LIKE MANY WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVS GONNA BE GOING TO JAIL!IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION BY TRIBUNE-STATE SENATOR RICKY HENDON ALLEGED MASTERMIND BEHIND CONSPIRACY.HOPE FITZGERALD HAS THE BALLS TO NAIL THEM ALL.THIS WILL BE A BIG ONE SCC!TIME TO PAY BACK THE POLICE HATING,RACE BAITING WEST SIDE MAKE BELIEVE REVERANDS WHO WE ALL KNOW FRONT AND MONEY LAUNDER FOR THE WEST SIDE GANG AND DRUG EMPIRES!!
7/19/2008 08:38:00 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feds aren't gong after anybody for 20G's. Shit, they won't go after anyone over 100G nowadays. That stuff gets thrown to the fincrime dics or the CC ASA corruption office.
""you would fuck up half of the fleet anyway because you would be tooling around on the highway in 4 wheel drive and fuck up the trans...so 2 wheel drive is what we get""
So why not a 4WD vehicle with FULL TIME 4WD, instead of PART TIME 4WD, asshat? You'd probably figure out a way to $*#& that up too...
A few sidewalk inspectors
!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haven't heard that for awhile.
"Problem is NO beat car has 'average' miles on it. Save maybe the 'CAPS' cars........"
And WHAT cars would those be? In my District, we don't have any CAPS cars? We catch a Sgt who was in the station and ride with him or her to do building inspections, and other errands while they log in their troops!
Hey, anyone with a scanner...take a listen to zone 5...5000.
I know it's good the bad guys can't hear us...but what about if the shit really hits the fan? Bumbles is trying to get the Olympics in Washington Park and 021 and 002 can't even hear their own transmission 25% of the time.
Who gives a shit if it gets 11 or 33 miles per gallon? Last time I checked the city was paying for the gas!
**On behalf of the taxpayers of Shitcago
to the 5 YEAR WONDER SAYING WAGON GUYS DONT WORK JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE BIG TRUCK DONT CRY.
What,no Batmobiles??
anonymous said...
27 years on this job and the cars I have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases . . .
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
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LIAR!
We never had diplomats.
7/20/2008 11:58:00 AM
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I believe we did, I am checking it out, I remember guys talking about Dodge Diplomat squad cars in the early 80's and how shitty they were.
Ask Northside, he would know.
WHAT'S NEXT? WE GET TO PAY FOR THE GAS FOR OUR POLICE VEHICLES OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS!!!
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Shhhh! Don't give them any new ideas.
27 years on this job and the cars I have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases . . .
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
try "DODGE MONACO" liar
try "DODGE MONACO" liar..there were no dodge diplomats.
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wrong, the city ordered some diplomats and many of them were unmarked vehicles. I know that they were used by the flying squad and gangs. they were only used for a short time
27 years on this job and the cars I have been in an accident in responding to jobs/chases . . .
unmarked dodge diplomat 1 minor
try "DODGE MONACO" liar
7/20/2008 11:20:00 PM
From someone with 33 years on the job, I recall we DID have some Dodge DIPLOMATS in the early 80's, as well as MONACOS, POLARAS and ASPENS. Over the years we also had Ford Fairmonts and LTDs, Plymouth Furys and Valliants, Studebakers, GMCs, Checker Marathons, Jeeps and whatever could be cobbled together. We have had box unmarked Chevy Caprices driven by supervisors.
So don't call someone a liar when you are not sure.
I tried to find a photo of a CPD Dodge Diplomat, maybe someone can find one and email it to SCC. In the meantime, enjoy the pictures on the following sites:
http://public.fotki.com/copcardotcom/photographs_of_greg/greg_reynolds--chic/page3.html
http://public.fotki.com/copcardotcom/photographs_of_greg/greg_reynolds--chic/
Stay safe, no matter what you drive, wear your seat belt!
"We have had box unmarked Chevy Caprices driven by supervisors."
Edit..We have had box unmarked Chevy Caprices with revolving blue roof light bars driven by supervisors.
Stay safe, no matter what you drive, wear your seat belt!
7/21/2008 02:24:00 PM
be careful what you wish for lad,all new tahoes will be equipped with gps.no more naps for you young wipper snappers!will you be able to justify being parked by the tracks for 5 hours?waa waa waa,mommy we want new tahoes.well,now you have them,gps and all!sneak out of the district for a quick snack at your favorite eatery,busted!event number for special attention-not at the location,busted!19 boy on the bullshit barking dog-you not there,busted! etcetra!
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and this is bad in what way?
suv's , m4 rifles mounted in trunk'10 hour work day , 5 % pay raises,
why are you po's complaining
One of the the tact teams cracked up my squad and it hasn't been replaced it's been 7 mos.
How about lifting the residency req, 6% raise, and better health care benefits for retirees!
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