Short 250? 400?
- The Chicago Police Department is down hundreds of officers despite pledges by City Hall to boost the force to combat growing violent crime, police union and department officials confirmed Wednesday.
Police Supt. Jody Weis, facing criticism over rising homicide rates, promised aldermen to expand the department by 75 officers as part of an effort to put more officers on the street. But City Hall has not approved department requests to hire enough officers to keep up with retirements and other attrition.
Mayor Richard Daley has said the city must reduce personnel costs in the face of a dismal economy and a gaping budget hole but has not specified where the cuts could be made at this point.
Daley makes J-Fed walk away and keep quiet:
- As Daley hailed the opening of an extended runway at O'Hare International Airport, Weis waited at the edge of the crowd for more than two hours. After the event, as reporters asked Daley about police hiring, Weis stepped up to the microphone stand.
That's when the mayor abruptly ended the news conference. Daley said he would talk today about O'Hare expansion and nothing else.
[...] With that, Daley walked away from the microphones, trailed by Weis.
The shortage numbers are way more than 250 or 400. That could be total hires, but if you want street strength, we're down 1,000. Easily. You want proof? How many down Beat cars on midnights where you work? How many 99 units? The Department hasn't reduced the number of beats, that's for sure.
Labels: city politics, department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
249 Comments:
How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
SCC,
Can you post a link to the Philadelphia PD blogsite for those of us who wish to convey our sympathies with our brothers in the City of brotherly Love?
even the news article on wgn claims the department has been hovering around 9,000 officers for the past few years
There should be a contractual agreement that the CPD must be manned at 97% manpower at all times. If you need to hire then do it, LAPD has a test every few months.
Check out what's happening in Philadelphia since the execution murder of Officer Pat McDonald.
TWO OFFICERS IN ALL CARS 24/7
SCC,
The mainstream media is finally picking up what we having been saying for years. They are still blatantly lying about the extent of the manpower shortage but at least they are now being forced to acknowledge it.
I encourage every officer to read the article and comment on it,e-mail it to your friends and family and take action. Call your elected officials and demand that they ensure you are safe by hiring the correct amount of PO's. Why do districts like 016,008,022,020,019,017 have to suffer while the tactical and gang teams are routinely stripped from them? What will happen if there are Cubs/Sox Riots,Obama Riots or a 9/11 type catastrophe???
I have written to both Presidential candidates asking them about the lack of law enforcement in urban cities and what there initiatives are to confront these issues. I propose another Federal hiring initiative similar to President Clintons in the early 1990's(Crime Bill Initiative). The CPD hired literally thousands of officers over the course of 1990-1998. The NYPD recently had ONE graduating class of 1,103 recruits.
City seeing more crime, fewer cops
Union says the ranks are short 250 officers
The Chicago Police Department is down hundreds of officers despite pledges by City Hall to boost the force to combat growing violent crime, police union and department officials confirmed Wednesday.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-chicago-cop-jobs-25-sep25,0,7993279.story
This was posted under the comments:
The City of Chicago is lying to say the least, the Chicago Police Department is down several thousand officers and it is not only impacting officer/citizen safety but taking a huge psychological toll on CPD officers.
The officers have been screaming for more manpower for two years to deaf ears. We need the citizens of Chicago to take action and call their elected officials and demand that the City of Chicago hire more officers before something like 9/11occurs and you are left to fend for oursleves.
This is a very serious public safety hazzard that impacts not only Chicago residents and officers but tourists and visitors to Chicago.
Please do your part before Chicago turns into a crime ridden disaster like Detroit.
VOTE AGAINST DALEY AND CO.
Put a 1 or 2 before the 400 and it's in that range. Millions of dollars going to da mayors coffers. This has been going on since 911 when they saw fit that not hiring new police would net the city huge police surplus monies.
Despite all the corruption, lies and scandels the Olympics are coming to town and Da Mayo will be the Mayo until he chooses not to ( No matter how much this city goes down the drain). Its sad this city had so much upside but it looking to me more and more like the Mayos backside!
OT Commander "cannabis" Wesley from cicero to have a hearing for dismissal from police dec 3. Fat dominick will pardon his former partner and give him an inside spot.
Funny how the Chicago Sun Times did not cover this story?
The spinmasters are doing all they can right now to kill this story and to keep the truth from coming out.
The Mayor said he would thoroughly address this issue today, lets see what happens.
The NYPD had a graduation class of 1,103 officers in 2006 and the City of Chicago is having difficulties fielding a class of 75recruits???
This officer shortage is no joke and may have inadvertently already led to the death of an officer, it needs to be addressed and rectified ASAP.
The Philadelphia PD lost four officers this year and made Chief Ramsey man all 10-4 units.
FOP Lodge 4 (Philadelphia PD) seems to be much better at getting things accomplished than FOP Lodge 7 (Chicago PD).
I believe that FOP Lodge 4 implemented their own health insurance and saved a bundle on the deal too.
I have written to both Presidential candidates asking them about the lack of law enforcement in urban cities and what there initiatives are to confront these issues. I propose another Federal hiring initiative similar to President Clintons in the early 1990's(Crime Bill Initiative). The CPD hired literally thousands of officers over the course of 1990-1998. The NYPD recently had ONE graduating class of 1,103 recruits.
SCC was this Chalkies original 2008 appearance
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/p
ages/News/Detail?contentId=6348059&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
This is the issue that will push Richie over the hill. When the citizens finally realize they are literally on their own there will be Hell to pay; or better yet, when the criminals figure this out.
After what they have done to this job I wouldn't be surprised if only 3,000 signup to take the entrance exam, even in these dire economic times.
On average only 10% of those who test are qualified to get on the job. The entrance exam,psychological assesment,medical exam,criminal record check,physical fitness test,background check,college requirements,credit check,residency requirement,etcetra knock 90% out or those who are qualified decline.
When will someone in the media file FOIA requests and get the documented numbers from the city?
Has anyone noticed how many younger coppers are hanging it up in favor of greener pastures?
I work midnights and I was working 99 a few days before P.O. Francis was killed in the line of duty. I stopped a drunk truck driver. He got out of his rig and was able to grab my gun, luckily somehow or someway, he couldn't hold on to it and it dropped. Two guys from the Sun Times truck subdued him and I was able to cuff him. Because of you Daley I almost lost my life. But hey, how about those Olympics right? You don't have enough money for officers but you have enough money for the Olympics?
Sorry, off topic !!! FYI
I don't know if this issue was brought up on the blog yet, it happened to my relative couple days ago. For all those people who live in Clearing (west end of city, 55th st, from Cicero to Harlem) Bedford Park installed their red light camera at 65th st and Lavergne. A lot of people take 65th street due to its two full lanes both ways. If u make a right turn s/b at that intersection on red without complete stop u are fined 100$. Its a tee intersection, there is never any traffic s/b. Take it for what its worth. The camera monitors your full speed too. U can look up your car pictures and short movie on-line. Pictures and movie show speed of moving vehicle. In order to accommodate this new camera system Bedford Park changed their municipal law for it.
It will take more homycides and violent crime and sad to say,one of us getting shot for the crooks at city hall to hire in mass and lead to the departure of j-fed
short 1 more: SGT. T. KELLY 009 died suddenly and unexpectedly from a heart attack while taking a class at the academy RIP
Down cars on midnights? One man cars on midnights?
How about every single car besides the wagon a 99 unit on third watch in my district.. REGULARLY!
It's getting really dangerous out there. And i'll be damned if i'm going to do proactive police work stopping gangbangers working 99.
The city don't care about me, then i don't care out it.
Well at least Jfed is getting an up close portrait of how things work around here and what we have to deal with on a daily basis.
I wonder how Moodys and Standard and Poors will rate Chicago's bond rating with all this crime and homicide?
A bad bond rating would not really impress the IOC.
Amazing how this story disappeared from the ten o'clock news.
Hey J-Fed,
Do you get it yet??...King Richard runs this city and the police Department..Wake up or you will go down in history as Daleys' scapegoat.Daley hates the police and is using you to do his dirty work..Please get your Fed buddies to indict this prick before you are laughed out of this city and go crawling back to Philly with you head between your legs..One can only hope that you have a "Golden Parachute".
Hired Truck Program:The Hired Truck Program was a scandal-plagued program in the city of Chicago that involved hiring private trucks to do city work. It was overhauled in 2004 (and phased out beginning in 2005) after an investigation by the Chicago Sun-Times revealed that some participating companies were being paid for doing little or no work, had mob connections or were tied to city employees. Truck owners also paid bribes in order to get into the program
No, we're not short, that's why 1st watch in 021 tonight every beat car was 99 except for the wagon, housing car, and one car with a PPO.
YET THEY FIRE RECRUITS WITH ALL THE CREDENTIALS THEY WANT AND MORE FOR ONE OFFICERS INTERPETATION OF SITUPS.
If you had a small business and made imprudent decisions and loans would the Federal Government come and bail you out?
HELL NO
Why does anyone think we shoud bail out any of these insurance companies or mortgage lenders?
I say Bye,Bye, Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Don't threaten us with an imaginary depression so that the taxpayers will pay for your embezzlements and bilkings. Let the market correct itself, the rich will get seriously hurt, so what.
Invest in hard precious metals now and watch your pot exponentially grow.
HAAA,HAAA,Jody Weis walked away like a broke-dick dawg.Hey,Jag-Off how does it feel to take orders from some corrupt piece of shit that should have been indicted and convicted a long time ago?That big money that Mayor Daley is paying you is not enough to save whatever reputation you have left..Based upon your career record of going after a FBI Agent who attempted to expose the 9-11 connections of a Chigago based Saudi who was funneling money to Al-Qaida,I am not shocked by how you wag your tail when your Master gives you a command.Go ahead,have one of your several brown-nosing suckholes defend what you did to FBI Special Agent Robert Wright.Defend how you used the vast resources of the FBI in an attempt to destroy a fellow FBI Agent.3,000 Americans died on September 11 2001.
The shortage of allotted manpower is just the tip of the iceberg. Look into the number of limited duty officers, convalescent duty officers, and officers detailed to unit 376. None can work the street. Add in the chronic medical abusers and you can figure out why there are downed beat cars. This is the real problem that needs to be addressed.
In 18 on 1st watch we have no 20 sector at all, the housing cars
1821H, 1822H and 1823H answer calls outside of the housing area and sometimes are 99 units
King Daley answers to nobody. He walks away from the news conference and drags J-Fed with him.
It is a joke.
The citizens of this City should DEMAND answers. Not settle with Daley walking away with no anwsers.
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How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
9/26/2008 12:11:00 AM
I second that...some... have it down to an art and nothing happens to them. They come off it and go right back on. Free money
Does anyone know how many patrolmen (9161) we had ten years ago? According to the alpha/star query, in I-CLEAR, we have 9921 patrolmen (9161) as of today. Although, I don't know if this number is correct because that number includes Mike Mette. I believe the 13,500 number is correct, if you count all police officers employeed by the city. This includes JFed down to the last P.P.O. But the way the city uses police officer implies that we have 13,500 patrolmen.
Short, fat, dumb, spoiled brat, corrupt political hack; $250,000.
In shape, former military, former fed SAC, political hack; $310,000.
Watching the latter be led around by the former like a puppy dog; priceless.
Now the world knows because they saw it on TV.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Has anyone noticed how many younger coppers are hanging it up in favor of greener pastures?
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
Thats funny you say that because i disagree. This job has saved so many people. So many people are police that could not do anything else because they are complete utter morons. Ive never met any other profession that people brag about how much money they have. I dont care how much CHA u work or how much you have in deffered or what side job you have, you don't make shit boys and girls. Your a city worker. Why do cops find it necessary to talk about their money.
Maybe JFed is a mole and is secretly working to take down Daley from the inside.....
"How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
9/26/2008 12:11:00 AM"
Typical Whiteshirt Cowardly Bootlicking Punk. The Abusers are & always have been 5%. Overwhelmingly clout clowns hence the Departments reticence to enforce any disciplinary measures.
They're relentless when it comes to the PO going through chemotherapy treatments has been on the medical maybe twice in his career.They go after him w/vengance.FACT.
WHAT WE NEED IS A HOUSE MOUSE TO STRIKE!
U SEE HOUSE MOUSES HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THOSE REARRANGED ATTENDANCE SHEETS.
SEND IT TO THE LOCAL MEDIA TELLING THEM SGTS ARE CODING OUT JOBS. TELL THEM ABOUT A GHOST CAR. TELL THEM ABOUT PEOPLE DETAILED OUT FOREVER! TELL THEM ABOUT TARA, DUI TRAINING AND OTHER "CLASSES" THAT DOWN CARS.
THE SAD THING ABOUT THIS IS GUY STILL WAVE OFF ASSIST CARS FOR DOMESTICS AND THE LIKE.
ITS A MUTHA F@#KR WHEN UR FIGHTING ALONE AND CANT CLICK ON UR RADIO.
IF A NUTTY HOMELESS LADY CAN KILL AND A SENIOR CITIZEN BEING SERVED A SUMMONS THAN ANYONE CAN KILL U.
STAY SAFE!?!
"City of Chicago is having difficulties fielding a class of 75recruits???
9/26/2008 12:31:00 AM"
You need to ask yourself why?
Let me see spend 3000grand in uniforms, have to live in the city, no current contract, fraught w/ clout& nepotism etc, etc,being possibly laid off 6months later? Workr for a department that will second guess& when politically expedient pursue criminial charges against for doing your job? Any person in thr right mind that would choose to become a Chicago Police Officer is an MORON!!
"1821H, 1822H and 1823H"
Being there's about 4 buildings left in Cabrini they should just makes those beats foot posts...
OT...anyone know about an officer's wife being attacked in her garage around foster/nagle?
Media Types,
Once again do you think the men and women blogging here are making this shit up. Beat cars are short period. 1 man cars on 1st and 3rd watch are so common its almost become the unwritten rule. Not to worry about two man cars. The medical, and POW police numbers in unit 376 are soaring , a combination of I dont give a shit working police who cannot get time off so they go on the medical, or the lazy ones hired through a bull shit hiring process who came from welfare to workfare and forgot the work part. Then when they are fired for failing to take police action ( a robbery in progress at a grocery store) the police board says no dont fire her just a long suspension and let her back on. That is Daleys hand picked bunch. The relef factor ( that is the manpower needed to replace a person on a beat car due to days off, medicals, furloughs comp time etc. has almost doubled in the last 15 years, from a level of .5 to ai .m sure now its over the .9 it was 7 of so years ago. That means in simple terms from needing just three officers to staff a 2 man car on one watch you now need 4 officers to do the same thing.
Break that down to the patrol division only .
If you had 9000 police officers in patrol you had 6,000 available to work daily, Now that same number would need to be almost 12,000 just in patrol to continue the same staffing levels at the 6000 available number. Math problem pure and simple.
To get to that 12,000 number what do you do. Add 3,000 and where does that 3,000 come from?
New hires? I dont think so.Have we increased our patrol division numbers or averall Dept. Strength?
No we create more bull shit units and take the manpower from patrol!!!!!!
Exactly the oppisite of what needs to happen. The same thing applies to supervisors
In short the ostrich has had its head in the sand ignoring the growing crisis for years, maybe no one wanted to tell the emperor he wasn't wearing clothes.
Well to quote the reverend Wright ( who is a piece of shit but I love the way he uses this phrase) " The chickens are coming home to roost" The basic unit of law enforcement the uniformed responding patrol officer who has been getting fucked over for years has had it. The J-Fuck edicts affect them the most ,the media bombardment affects them the most. They get injured and killed while working more then any other units in the Department. They get the CR numbers because of the daily contact with the shitheads of society that we pay them to keep under control. Well guess what they have had it. The chronic shortage of manpower due to the shortsightedness of the administration has caught up with the Little Jag Off.
Media,
Check these facts out look at the increased number of calls for service,
Look at themedical roll numbers, ( cant gett comp time I dont feel goos tonight) the increased time off benefits, baby furlough days, vacation, comp time, personal days holidays off compared to some years ago so you can gain an understanding of the needed increase in the relief factor manpower. These are all union earned officer rights bargained for under a labor contract. The city failed to increase manpower in the Department to adjust for the growing relief factor. Its a math proble folks. Do the math.
I work midnights and I was working 99 a few days before P.O. Francis was killed in the line of duty. I stopped a drunk truck driver. He got out of his rig and was able to grab my gun, luckily somehow or someway, he couldn't hold on to it and it dropped. Two guys from the Sun Times truck subdued him and I was able to cuff him. Because of you Daley I almost lost my life. But hey, how about those Olympics right? You don't have enough money for officers but you have enough money for the Olympics?
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
What are the names of the Sun Times truck employees so we can extend them some police courtesy ?
"YET THEY FIRE RECRUITS WITH ALL THE CREDENTIALS THEY WANT AND MORE FOR ONE OFFICERS INTERPETATION OF SITUPS."
we get it. you failed. stop your bitching. knock out a few crunchies and apply elsewhere you are better off
Get rid of all these B.S. units and put the patrolmen where they need to be. In the district answering calls for service!
Gun teams , Saturation teams. Get rid of them and put these people back in the district.
Selling off of taxpayers assets to fund ?????
Raiding pensions
Loosing employees left and right
Campaigning for the Olympics that has no benefit to the taxpayers. Displacing homeowners and lining the pockets of developers. Massive land grab.
High Crime
No contracts or raises
Lies about current conditions
Putting employees at risk knowingly
If this man worked for your company..... you'd fire him!
ARMY DEPLOYMENT 1 0CT 2008. Wake up folks, the army is comming back and is going to be re-deployed to protect the home front from terrorists and YOU GUESSED IT, civil unrest. Cities don't need more Cops, the army will be here to fill the void. Marshall law may come back too. Don't believe me, just search the internet for the truth. THIS IS FACT, SIGNED BY BUSH. Also, see FEMA CAMPS ON YOUTUBE. Be ready changes are comming, good and bad.
I wonder how Moodys and Standard and Poors will rate Chicago's bond rating with all this crime and homicide?
A bad bond rating would not really impress the IOC.
9/26/2008 02:09:00 AM
No but a suitcase full of money will impress them and that's what mayor jagbag is counting on. The biggest waste of taxpayer money in this city is streets and san but it is also the most politically influenced so don't look for any changes there until the midget has a heart attack and dies. Stay safe out there my brithers and sisters, we are all we have.
time for guys to start faxing copies of the sheets to SCC, let him post the real #'s. Lets see how many cars are down every night across the city
To SCC and the readers of this blog-
I want to thank you for keeping the pressure on this issue. Over the last few months it's been interesting to read the comments...a lot of which are posted by non-CPD trolls...that the CPD is not short-handed and everything is just fine.
This blog has kept the issue alive and has fanned the flames so much that the heat is finally reaching Daley and even running over on to the Obama campaign. Now that the national news is turning its blowtorch Richie's way, he's running scared.
Keep up the good work, and God bless the men & women of the CPD.
-a proud CPD Dad.
I wonder how the media got hold of this information? Well, some of them are good at doing research and checking sources that others may consider INSIGNIFICANT.
Heh, heh, heh.
The Age of Information is upon you Shortshanks.
Let’s send all of the news media a copy of the work sheets every day for two months. One or two people from all 25 districts make a copy every day for two months of the watch sheets and mail it to all of the news media outlets.
Let SCC find out who the sheets should be mailed to directly and the correct mailing address.
Then the media can do a story about how here is no police on the streets anymore. May be they will even do a story about how many police officers have to work 99 and put their live in jeopardy everyday for this city.
Let’s do this one for “R.F.” rest in peace brother, we will never forget!!!
How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
Quit whining! Don't worry about them.Guess your the same officer who complains about an officer being late to roll call five minutes. You sound like a perfect candidate as a new boss. Worry about yourself "ONE WAY"!
we are defintely short at least 1,000 police on the streets....with that in mind the dept brass/media/public all bitch about we are short thousands and thousands of arrests/crime is up blah blah blah....... well here is my thought on this, i could be wrong but fuck it..(this is of course with a good contract)...... in the faster districts officers average about 200 heads a year with about 50 of those being felonies and maybe 15 guns, in the slower districts the average is about 50-75 a year with about 10-15 felonies and maybe 3-5 guns recovered.. lets just say the average of all the districts together, the average police officer should do around 100 heads a year,20 felonies, 8 guns revovered from the shitheads...... (again im talking about these numbers when and if we get a great contract and the fuck up city starts backing us up for once which we all know it will never happen...).1000 missing p/o's in action X's 100 arrest=100,000 more arrests.... 20 felonie arrest X's 1000= 20,000 more felonie arrest for this crappy ass dept...... and last but not least average gun was 8 X's 1000 missing p/o's= 8,000 ....i say hire the missing 1,000p/o's and get us a fucking good contract then you jody/daley/bitch ass public/media would get your motherfucking numbers up.........fuck this dept.........................also with a good contract the avg officer brings in about 5 parkers (avg$50.usc each citation) a day..... 5 X's 50=$250 a day X's 20 working days days a month = $5,000 x's 12months - 1month for furlough 11= 55,000 x's 1000 police officers short = $$$$$$ millions of more money for the city......at the end of the day give us a fucking contract and hire more police officers and its a win win cituation...............west side 5 year vet....sorry if my math was wrong..
LAPD has hired 171 since July 1,2008...Chicago has hired 125 for the year and LA has them beat in 3 months...
LAPD hires 181 since July 1
From wire reports
Article Last Updated: 09/10/2008 07:20:52 AM PDT
LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles Police Department has hired 181 officers since July 1 -- about a quarter of the department's goal for the year, the Police Commission was told Tuesday.
The LAPD expects to hire 780 officers by June 30, 2009, which is the end of the fiscal year, said Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell.
The department hired 730 officers in fiscal year 2006-07 and 739 in 2007- 08 -- the most since 1995-96, when 965 officers joined the force.
About 19 percent of the sworn officers are women. The racial breakdown of the LAPD is currently 40 percent Latino; 38 percent white; 12 percent African-American; 6.7 percent Asian; 2 percent Filipino; and less than 1 percent Native American.
"Looking at that breakdown, we've come a long way over the years," McDonnell said.
the three fake iod in the 2nd district should be looked hello IAD they are all fakes and thiefs...
In 18 on 1st watch we have no 20 sector at all, the housing cars 1821H, 1822H and 1823H answer calls outside of the housing area and sometimes are 99 units
Don't cry, thank the entertainment detail.
Sure we have enough cops... check this out ;
008 is the same size and population as Newark NJ. ( 26 sq miles and 270,000).
Newark has 1400 cops...008 has 330 (with 30 of them on the medical).
008 leads the city in reported index crime, calls for service and amount of schools. Add a airport a shopping mall and hell maybe we have too many police.
002 (5 sq miles) has the same amount of cops and its one big vacant lot.
The call volume in in 008 is more than 013, 014, 020,023 put together’
Great dedicated guys in 008 run from dusk till dawn.
Good Bosses, good cmdr
How long can we beat this sled team before they drop!
I believe that FOP Lodge 4 implemented their own health insurance and saved a bundle on the deal too.
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Correct. Took the city out of the equation, and lowered the officers bi-weekly contribution as well. It can be done.
Anonymous said...
Hey J-Fed,
Do you get it yet??...King Richard runs this city and the police Department..Wake up or you will go down in history as Daleys' scapegoat.Daley hates the police and is using you to do his dirty work..Please get your Fed buddies to indict this prick before you are laughed out of this city and go crawling back to Philly with you head between your legs..One can only hope that you have a "Golden Parachute".
Hired Truck Program:The Hired Truck Program was a scandal-plagued program in the city of Chicago that involved hiring private trucks to do city work. It was overhauled in 2004 (and phased out beginning in 2005) after an investigation by the Chicago Sun-Times revealed that some participating companies were being paid for doing little or no work, had mob connections or were tied to city employees. Truck owners also paid bribes in order to get into the program
9/26/2008 02:13:00 AM
Strangly eddies burkes guy petey had what 20+ trucks and he was in paper once and nothing happened why? Clout again! We should get to gether the police with balls march into a city crime (council) meeting and lock up all the 50 sheep,daley,the clerk and the rest charge them with extorsion, inattention to duty, theft, and a myriad of other charges maybe the feds will do this and I would help lock them all up!
No, we're not short, that's why 1st watch in 021 tonight every beat car was 99 except for the wagon, housing car, and one car with a PPO.
9/26/2008 02:59:00 AM
its dangerous sleeping 99, not to many hiding spots
Short how many? 2 maybe 3 thousand? cars are down in every district every night, the cars like 2211 are pilled to 005 to take care of the animals who never pay the freight! If we shipped all illegals back dumbass daley we would have billions in "surplus" funds but then again the mayor has no brains/balls! Why don't the feds step in and enforce the laws daley and the 50 sheep keep on breaking?
How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
9/26/2008 12:11:00 AM
Other than straight out firing them, I don't see how that helps. They are useless whether they're on the street or at home watching Maury all day!
VOTE AGAINST DALEY AND CO.
9/26/2008 12:24:00 AM
Another genius...
Lest we forget the hundreds of officers assigned to various inside spots under the ruse of light duty only to run other businesses on company time and occasionally make coffee! Can anyone say double dipping?
Look into all the dog-asses in 1!!
OT:
Anyone catch Pam Z's piece on the usless traffic aides? Another spot for dumb people to suck on the city's nipple.
TMA= Too Much Authority
http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/traffic.aide.traffic.2.825939.html
Need more PO's on the street? Why don't we finally start to actually empty out HQ and Homan Square. You wouldn't believe how many PO's are hiding there, doing their do-nothing protected jobs. Hell, even in the Districts themselves what about the Caps office and those that have overstuffed desk crews.
Don't get me wrong, we need to hire more, abesolutly. But we have SEVERAL HUNDRED PO's right now who need to finally be sent back onto the streets, and NOT into some "closed market" like program. The bodies are there, just look at the HQ parking lot at 1000 hrs any monday thru friday.
I am one of the recruits waiting to be hired. Took the exam in 6/06, expecting an 18 month hiring period. Almost 30 months later, still sitting around. Being jerked around by my investigator. I was told I would start in May. May came and went, then promised june. Etc Etc Etc. Someone tell me why I want this job again?
dont worry. they will come to their senses and change their minds. they will hire a bunch of ppos and.................o wait a minute, they got rid of the FTOS now there is noone to train them.
you morons are screwing up this fine department ...thanks alot
The title should read "City Cops Short 1,000"
Has anyone else noticed a lot more streetlights off than in years past? The city is attempting to save a small amount in electricity costs and is jeopardizing the safety of its residents. The more money they save, the more they can give to their patronage buddies, I guess.
I work midnights and I was working 99 a few days before P.O. Francis was killed in the line of duty. I stopped a drunk truck driver. He got out of his rig and was able to grab my gun, luckily somehow or someway, he couldn't hold on to it and it dropped. Two guys from the Sun Times truck subdued him and I was able to cuff him. Because of you Daley I almost lost my life.
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
I'd like to buy the Sun Times drivers a beer and get their take on this.
Daley is holding the city hostage until he gets what he wants for the Olympics. There are recruits out there, who have passed all their tests and background checks, waiting to be hired on but aren't because that money has been used somewhere else. Until Daley gets what he wants the new budget isn't going anywhere and no new cops will be hired. The whole "hiring freeze" imposed by Daley is a scam; all it's doing is allowing him to take that money and use it for personal interests and favors instead of public safety. I wonder how a dangerously understaffed police force looks to the IOC.
The CPD hired literally thousands of officers over the course of 1990-1998. The NYPD recently had ONE graduating class of 1,103 recruits.
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Thousand RETIRED in the late 1990's... They were all hired in the late 1960's when the "shit hit the fan".
Fetch J-Fraud, Fetch!
Goooooood dog!
CPD should reach out for PO s that left the Department for other jobs and try to bring them back. Or forget the college requirement for new people. I took the test with 35 thousand applicants they will never see those numbers again even with the tight financial times!!
Hire some lateral police officers like many agencies across the United States give them priorty over anyone else as long as they have a State Certification let them get IL. Cert. or look for former CPD officers.
The FOP knows we are down way more than 250 guys. Hell, the city admitted to only hiring 125 people in 2008. We lose 325-400 people a year to retirement, death, resignations, and terminations. In the FOP newsletter every month they list the names 20-25 people who retired. Over twelve months that's 240-300 people right there. You either know personally, or hear of about probably 2 guys on the job dying every month. That's 24 guys a year. A few guys/gals quit every month when you look at a Personnel Order, so that's somewhere around 24-35 people. And then you have people who get fired. Unless the city hires at least 400 a year, it's imposssible for us to be anywhere near 13,500 every year. Impossible! Heard many rumors that the city issued just under 10,000 duty availability checks back in July. If anyone in the finance division, or payroll department can verify this, then that is your true sworn officer total.
Why do we have a National FOP? I have been saying this for a long time. If you have a certain lodge that was able to get a beneficial provision into their contract and it could work for members of lodge 7, why doesn't our fop seek their assistance. Philly and Miami PD fop's have more balls than ours and should show lodge 7 on how to grow a pair. But they also don't reside in the most corrupt city in the nation (yes I said it our fop is corrupt).
Let's not forget that according to the DEPARTMENTS OWN numbers the relief factor for beat cars is .9
SO that means that if you want to put 75 officers on the street, you would have to hire 143 officers. Or, to put it another way, if you hire 75, you are really putting about 40 on the street.
Hiring 143 would give you about 1 officer per watch per district.
Hiring 75 would get you about half an officer per watch per district
Either way, BIG DEAL.
anonymous said...
Has anyone noticed how many younger coppers are hanging it up in favor of greener pastures?
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
Its a no-brainer for many of us with just under 10 years---- Let's see, this job sucks, this city sucks, my kids will start school in a year or two, which I cannot afford, why exactly am I still here? That's why a lot of us are leaving in droves... This is a bad job, plain and simple.
anonymous said...
In 18 on 1st watch we have no 20 sector at all, the housing cars
1821H, 1822H and 1823H answer calls outside of the housing area and sometimes are 99 units
9/26/2008 05:01:00 AM
At least you guys have that 15 man 'entertainment detail'...
I just wanted to commend Commander Steve Georgas 018 on his sparring of several Officers in 018. Commander Georgas had the police office at 364 W. Oak closed for whatever reason. Officers were on foot posts when our lovely 37 year old clout baby drove by and saw several lawn chairs being used by Officers. He immediately called the Sgt. and had them all sparred even though no one was sitting in the chairs. What a guy! Also, you will see Steve comment as he always defends his actions on this wonderful blog. It's bad enough being punished to a non bid post at 364 or 365 W. Oak. Looking forward to BOY WONDERS response. GO TEAM CLOUT!!!!!!!!
It is staggering to me that the city would leave itself SO WIDE OPEN,what few police we actually still have working are at wits end.It doesn't suprise me that an officer cracks,with horrific results.It sickens me that the bulk of us are just plain indifferent towards evil.It scares me that with the impending "perfect storm" of mayhem approaching we haven't prepared.When the inevitable happens I'm sure we'll catch ALL the blame.WE NEED A LEADER WHO LEADS.
anonymous said...
There should be a contractual agreement that the CPD must be manned at 97% manpower at all times. If you need to hire then do it, LAPD has a test every few months.
9/26/2008 12:16:00 AM
Never happen. Due to a law that only effects cities in Illinois over 1 million, city never has to negotiate over minimum staffing issues on the police department. They got burned by the fire department over this.
The issue isn't how many people because the CPD is short because the department is not that low but in how the manpower is deployed.
Everyone seems to think that the FOP can simply get language inserted in the contract that benefits us. Remember you are dealing with the Stuttering Prick. It is near impossible to get things beneficial to us, it takes much wrangling and months or years of work.
The present FOP team has done a fantastic job on this new work schedule but the majority of officers will still think they are getting fucked. The average officer knows very little about how hard it is to get shit done when dealing with the city.
Hey Jodi,How's that goat suit fitting ? startin to ride up in the crotch a bit ?!!! YA FRIGGIN DUPE !!
Put a 1 or 2 before the 400 and it's in that range. Millions of dollars going to da mayors coffers. This has been going on since 911 when they saw fit that not hiring new police would net the city huge police surplus monies.
9/26/2008 12:24:00 AM
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I agree. 200-400 down, no friggen way.
HI FROM DA MAYOR,
That's right, it's the medical abusers and light duty officers..Keep that attention away from me..
Don't you see yet? I have the Fed in my pocket, President Bush just had me to the White House. The media is afraid of me and none of you will do a thing..Ha ha ha..You're all so weak and stupid..
I own this city and what I say goes. I could care one hair on a rat's ass how many of you die. Each time one of you die I get to make a speech so keep dying...
You're all stuck, get over it. Now if you want to make a contribution to my war chest maybe I can make your life easier...See how benevolent and magnificent I am..
Your Mayor,
Dick Daley
What is the problem with Cmdr Roy? Coppers in 009 are saying he killed Sgt. Kelly by constantly stressing him out? Can anyone actually tell us the truth about Roy's hatred for the Sgt?
Word in 009 is that Roy didn't even have the nutsack to address the troops about one of their fallen? Is this really true?
Roy must be pretty proud of himself sending Tim to an early grave!
SCC, what is REALLY going on with 009...the greatest CPD district in the Southside!
i bet they re double counting all the people detailed out.also..do we need so many people in the front offices and in caps?
whats even better is we will have 99 units, and a 3 man 06 car. only b/c two year wonders are silly enough to bring in heads (mostly m.c.c charges). Anybody thats been on the job over 2.5 - 3 years knows this place is a joke. everytime i hear an "06" car on the radio i can't stop laughing at them.
hey ppl. Shortshankks can spend $$$$$$$millions for trivisl crap and the citizens can't see this YET. No that their safety is at risk mabye they will got off their ass and start to scream to Shortshanks or the media. Keep up for fine work in trying to get what you all so deserve. Safety so you can make it home after, better equiptment, contract, etc. Make this city stand up and see whats happening to them with Shortshank. He ball busted J-Fed in front of the cameras, so you are really sacrifical to him Make him eat his ego......stick together, do enough to get by, protect yourself, partner and other PO'S. Shortshank, Burke amd Carothers aren't hurting a bit. The corruption machine has been around a LONG LONG time. Please Fitz get machine out !!!!
Hey SCC, I know its your blog but maybe you should put a link up for the officer down memorial page (odmp.org) its a good site to remember all our departed brothers and sisters
You sold your soul buddy.
And all those pictures of you in are uniform won't mean SHIT.
Leave before he really shames you
For once the media is actually trying to do their job and report unbiasedly on an important issue facing the police department and City of Chitcago.
Keep pressuring Daley and Weis about the manpower shortage. They can't hide forever. Keep pressuring them about the lack of productivity and resentment among officers. Keep asking about low morale, the lack of a contract and increase in micromanagement through cameras, GPS and other new bogus policies.
These are issues that they can't run away from, everyday the Mayor cries poor but then he unveils another multimillion dollar expansion project or new rose garden in Grant park. Instead of paying for these luxury items start providing the citizens with the minimum city services that we all deserve and lack.
Ok so they say we are short 250 officers. Maybe so. but that does not include the 300 of Det, 235 of Sgt. or 75 short of LT's. Thats well over 800. Those numbers are from a few months back so I am sure they have grown! What about that why wasn't that told in the paper! Those DET, SGT. positions are taken from P.O's so they should be included in the numbers. What a joke! Get it right media tell the whole story because 250 officers is nothing!
No, we're not short, that's why 1st watch in 021 tonight every beat car was 99 except for the wagon, housing car, and one car with a PPO.
9/26/2008 02:59:00 AM
DUMB-ASS: I'll give you a tip and a clue, NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT 021! Its a quiet Dist with a bunch of dog-ass's who have never done anything, or a few who figured out how to fill out a par form from shit-holes like 007,011. Do yourself a favor, go hit the hole along the beach front, close your eyes, remember to have someone wake you by 0530 or so!
I was at the Academy today, only saw one CPD class and the rest metros 90% of all the lockers are open. NOT GOOD AT ALL!!!
**WOOF**
what was the last sound the mic picked up as JF walked behind king D.
attention media hacks reading this we are only down that 250 to 400 officers from this year and similiar numbers have been going on for 5 or 6 years AT LEAST
There should be a contractual agreement that the CPD must be manned at 97% manpower at all times.
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97% of what number? all the city has to do is change the number to be 103% of how many cops there actually are.
i am not a big fan of trying to run any enterprise where the labor union gets to decide how many employees there are going to be. thats not a workable solution, and there are times when you have to get by with less due to economic realities.
emergency services should be a higher priority though then less important ones like libraries, parks, and graft.
Know your contract, you can refuse to work 99 on 3rd and 1st Watch. tHEY WILL TRY TO TELL YOU THEY WILL RESTRICT TIME. You have to decide would you rather get time off or work 2 deep You call it.
The city states we are down 275 or so officers from budgeted strength. What the dumbass media doesnt ask is why has the budgeted strength gone down so much over the last 10 years. Compare the 1997 number of budgeted officers to the 2007-8 number of budgeted officers. We are close to 1000 less than 1997.
IT'S PUBLIC RECORD.... CAN SOMEONE FIND OUT HOW MANY OFFICERS WE DO HAVE, AND THE ONES THAT ARE MEDICAL ABUSERS AND THE INSIDE JOBS, AND DON'T FORGET 7 OFFICERS AND A LT TO WORK CAPS....WHAT A JOKE... STAY SAFE OUT THERE ON THE STREETS ESPECIALLY 99, YOU SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT A DOMESTIC(13TH) P.O. SHOT AND KILLED SOMEONE... STAY SAFE IF JOB REQUIRES 2 P.O'S TO GO IN WAIT IT OUT.... IF INSPECTOR ROLLS UP TELL HIS LAME A** TO ASSIT YOU
I can tell you for sure... 006 district has many 99 cars on midnights, regularly... Also 006 is a very large district so if something happens on one end, your screwed if you are 99 on the other end!
Report the backlog numbers (these are calls which have no officers responding to calls for service). Report the manpower shortage and watch newspapers fly off the stand. Report what matters. Cops should have side jobs as reporters. Can you imagine the reading material.
It shouldn't matter HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON MEDICAL,we should ALWAYS HAVE SUFFICIENT MANPOWER REGARDLESS.
Why do districts like 016,008,022,020,019,017 have to suffer while the tactical and gang teams are routinely stripped from them?
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Because they are full of white taxpayers who behave themselves. The socialist machine needs to redristribute the wealth. You are not valuable to a democrat if you can help yourself.
Supt. Weis,
You are a 50 year old man with a pension and a million dollar contract. Daley brought you here to be his stooge and fall guy, if necessary. You can go out like a chump and a failure or you can use your connections to embarrass this little fucker and take him out. The later would change you from local laughing stock to national legend. Surely, your years in the F.B.I.(or having 2 eyes) can clue you into the fact that you are working for a major organized criminal. Save you dignity and your reputation. This little bully needs to be put in his place. You as an independent outsider can do this. You came here to "clean up corruption" and should be able to see where the problem originates.
HEY PUBLIC ARM URSELVES THE POLICE CANT PROTECT U!!!!
OT: Is it true Ron Huberman is going in front of the Pension Board, Monday, 29 Sep 08, to request CPD pension credits for the time he is working for the CTA? He says working for the CTA is part of Homeland Security. If this is true the pension board trustee’s should be flooded with calls on Monday before the meeting. This is absolutely outrageous.
LAPD IS HIRING . YES THAT IS RIGHT , STARTING PAY IS 54,467.00 AND IF YOU HAVE A BS IS 61,000.00
ALL EQUIPMENT PAID FOR AND NO RESIDENCY.
OT- Benefit for Richard Francis on this Sunday at John Barleycorn on Clark. Free Parking in the McDonalds lot. Starts at 7pm.
Lets see the city says we have 13,500 police. That includes Patrol Officers, Detectives, Sergeants, Liuteants, Captains, Commanders. But payroll only issues 9200 checks.
13500 - 9200= 4300
So does the city budget say we have 13500 or 9200?
If its budgeted for 13500. What City Dept. is getting the other alloted monies since payroll only issues 9200 payroll checks?
The base pay for Grade 1, Patrolmen effective 01 January 2007 was $43,104 salary.
Lets see take the 4300 difference from above multiplied by the salary ($43,104)for Grade 1.
4300 x $43104= $185,347,200.00
So how many positions? Does the 13500 include civilians too? Who is getting the $185,347,200.00?
anonymous said...
FOP Lodge 4 (Philadelphia PD) seems to be much better at getting things accomplished than FOP Lodge 7 (Chicago PD).
I believe that FOP Lodge 4 implemented their own health insurance and saved a bundle on the deal too.
9/26/2008 12:35:00 AM
Yes, Philadelphia has a much better health plan than the CPD does here. They also have a two tiered pension plan paying 80% or 100% of salary depending on hire date.
Do you want that here on the Chicago Police Department? You can have it. The max salary for a Philadelphia Police Officer is $54,513 a year.
I was not a math major but let's see here, I am a veteran officer with an expired contract. I still make a base salary of over $78,000 a year. If I leave now I would get 75% of that for life with 3% annual raises.
That's more than either 80% or 100% of Philadelphia's PD pension.
Everyone always points to other cities and says why can't we get that here.
We can.
We can get what other cities have if we want to cut our own salary because, and this might be hard to swallow, we have a better contract than does the Philadelphia Police.
We are paid more than Philadelphia or New York. And we have seniority rights that New York PD only dreams about.
Occasionally some other city leapfrogs over us in salary, but overall, we are near the top in the country. If CPD officers would realize that they might have to stop complaining so much. Never happen.
We have light duty spots for IOD officers IN OUR CONTRACT. Other cities do not, most specifically Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Union took the City of Baltimore to court over light duty spots. They lost them ALL, all light duty spots for on duty and off duty injuries and illness.
Our IOD spots are guaranteed and the city wants to define a certain number of spots for non-IOD injuries and illnesses. That is presently NOT in the contract.
It seems to me that some is better than none, but I might be mistaken, I know I never make sense when I speak truth during a locker room rant, the shouting gets overpowering, all that gets heard is "Fuck the FOP, the FOP screws us." Yeah right. You all are getting screwed. Occasionally perhaps. But most definitely not near as much as officers in other cities.
I know that most will not believe this, coppers never do. They refuse to believe that they have it good. So be it. Keep complaining. I just smile and keep walking.
There are issues that need improvement, no doubt. Officer deployment is one huge problem, 10-99 cars during hours of darkness is another. Officers can stop that tomorrow. Simply submit a To-From report refusing to work alone. Then the WC will threaten you with no time due. So guess what, most officers will work 10-99. Don't go to disturbance calls or the like without backup, that's all, wait a few blocks away until they get you a backup.
One other thing, this FOP administration is doing a much better job than any other before it. Not yet perfect but much much better than Nolan or Dineen.
If you don't believe it, ask a city labor attorney or Mayor Mumbles. They hate the FOP with a passion. FOP must be doing something right to be so disliked by the City. Keep it up I say.
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Now the MEDIA is starting to get it!!! We are down near 10,000 officers NOT 13,500. So, you Media hounds now is the time to put the pressure on Daley and J-Fed.
***REFUSE TO WORK 10-99 AT ALL TIMES!!! ****
When will someone in the media file FOIA requests and get the documented numbers from the city?
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You can do it yourself. Google FOI requests, you can get the form, fill it out and submit it. I've done it many times for many different things..........SO GET UP OFF YOUR BUTT!!!!
The feds have a whole; better yet, several file big files on this city's mayor. There's enough to make him waste the remaining days of his miserable existance behind a nice solid steel door surrounded by re-enforced concrete walls, floor and ceiling. I just wish they'd pick up the case and finish working on it.
It will take more homycides and violent crime and sad to say,one of us getting shot for the crooks at city hall to hire in mass and lead to the departure of j-fed
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Where the hell have YOU been??? TWO of us have already been shot in the last couple of months!!! And it's "en masse", NOT "in mass".
TROLL
I work midnights and I was working 99 a few days before P.O. Francis was killed in the line of duty. I stopped a drunk truck driver. He got out of his rig and was able to grab my gun, luckily somehow or someway, he couldn't hold on to it and it dropped. Two guys from the Sun Times truck subdued him and I was able to cuff him. Because of you Daley I almost lost my life. But hey, how about those Olympics right? You don't have enough money for officers but you have enough money for the Olympics?
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Thank God you are okay. And thank you to the brave citizens. And I don't know the circumstances, but I just bought a new holster, and am now carrying a snub on my ankle. Would suggest reevaluating your gear. GREAT JOB, you ought to play the lottery. Stay safe, and NO MORE 99 UNITS!!!! Officer Francis would still be alive!!!!
We become complacent--who would think something that horrific could happen in 19??? Just goes to show you it can happen anywhere, any time.
We need more units.
-a proud CPD Dad.
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Thanks Dad!!! My Dad lives in FL, so will you adopt me???
Da mayer just used his Pimp Hand to slap dat beyotch.
016 Mids every car 99 sat night. 10 pos watching over area and population the size of Rockford. Talk about shortage. If citizens only knew!!!!!
Let SCC find out who the sheets should be mailed to directly and the correct mailing address.
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Great idea. Find it out yourself. SCC is not your sitter. Be proactive when it comes to pursuing the truth. Make some phone calls....let us know...........bet you won't do it!
"Maybe JFed is a mole and is secretly working to take down Daley from the inside.....
9/26/2008 07:28:00 AM"
Yeah He's Morocco Mole & His buddy Brust is Secret Squirrel. Actually they kind of look like those characters,so you maybe onto something...
Anonymous said...
Ok so they say we are short 250 officers. Maybe so. but that does not include the 300 of Det, 235 of Sgt. or 75 short of LT's. Thats well over 800. Those numbers are from a few months back so I am sure they have grown! What about that why wasn't that told in the paper! Those DET, SGT. positions are taken from P.O's so they should be included in the numbers. What a joke! Get it right media tell the whole story because 250 officers is nothing!
9/26/2008 01:25:00 PM
BINGO!!!
The PBPA need to address the shortage of manpower in their ranks too. We are closer to 2,000 sworn personnel down when everybody is included.
This is a serious threat to officer safety, God Forbid their is serious rioting post a World Series,Subway Series,Obama Riots or Economic Woes.
The writing is on the wall and something major is coming our way. Don't you all want the numbers on our side?
Supt. Weis,
You are a 50 year old man with a pension and a million dollar contract. Daley brought you here to be his stooge and fall guy, if necessary. You can go out like a chump and a failure or you can use your connections to embarrass this little fucker and take him out. The later would change you from local laughing stock to national legend. Surely, your years in the F.B.I.(or having 2 eyes) can clue you into the fact that you are working for a major organized criminal. Save you dignity and your reputation. This little bully needs to be put in his place. You as an independent outsider can do this. You came here to "clean up corruption" and should be able to see where the problem originates.
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Thank you for saying so eloquently what we are all thinking.
I just have one question..If I can find corruption, why can't Jody???
I was at a birthday party in another state a couple weeks ago--randomly started talking to a guy who worked for a contractor for the park dist. Jokingly, I asked him about how much corruption there was.
Unbelievably, he told me EVERYONE gets paid--but he said that somehow everything gets done. He LAUGHED when I asked him how extensive it was. I asked him to tell me how it worked and to name names.
He told me he had recently retired and did not want to end up in a trunk.
Even though I've known it all along, it was still very disappointing to hear.
Seriously, the guy was afraid he'd be found in another state!!!!
I'd be more than happy to show the FBI all the corruption I've come across--they just don't want to listen.
J-Fed, for the love of God, please help us and help this city.
I challenge anybody to lookup the police salaries for the San Francisco and Boston Police Departments, also look at their benefits
Working 10-99 does not make you cool or super cop, it hurts us as a whole and lets the city get away with violating our contract and putting our lives in danger. You are much more likely to get killed or seriously injured as a 99 unit.
IT'S PUBLIC RECORD.... CAN SOMEONE FIND OUT HOW MANY OFFICERS WE DO HAVE, AND THE ONES THAT ARE MEDICAL ABUSERS AND THE INSIDE JOBS, AND DON'T FORGET 7 OFFICERS AND A LT TO WORK CAPS....WHAT A JOKE... STAY SAFE OUT THERE ON THE STREETS ESPECIALLY 99, YOU SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT A DOMESTIC(13TH) P.O. SHOT AND KILLED SOMEONE... STAY SAFE IF JOB REQUIRES 2 P.O'S TO GO IN WAIT IT OUT.... IF INSPECTOR ROLLS UP TELL HIS LAME A** TO ASSIT YOU
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Do it YOURSELF you lazy ass! Typical---whine, whine, whine, no action. Figure it out for yourself!!! If you need help, say so, but don't expect someone else to do something you can do for yourself. Just like a kid--Mom, where are my shoes? Mom, where is my I-Pod? Mom, where are my underpants? DO IT YOURSELF. Then feel free to analyze it and share it with the rest of us. For God's sake........this is what is sooo wrong with this dept!
If that story about the Sun Times driver and helper is true they shoudl receive some form of commendation from the city and their employer. That situation could have easily been your EOW.
The city does give citizen commendations and I am sure that the Sun Times would do something for them too.
It is important to provide recognition to a citizen who puts his/her life in jeopardy assisting us. This acknowledges them as a hero and encourages others to help us and not walk by.
I believe a Boston copper was getting his ass handed to him in an arrest situation while 99 and a multitude of people just walked by and didn't break stride. Finally a few honorable citizens jumped into the fray and assisted and called a 10-1 via cell phone ending it.
SCC,
What about he link to the Philly blog? I would like to extend sympathies as would most of us from the CPD, we are but one big family.
anonymous said...
anonymous said...
Has anyone noticed how many younger coppers are hanging it up in favor of greener pastures?
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
Its a no-brainer for many of us with just under 10 years---- Let's see, this job sucks, this city sucks, my kids will start school in a year or two, which I cannot afford, why exactly am I still here? That's why a lot of us are leaving in droves... This is a bad job, plain and simple.
9/26/2008 11:34:00 AM
Right.
It is no doubt better over at Wal-Mart. Get right on over there and apply and let us know on the blog how good you have it.
Or go right on over to anywhere and go get another job anywhere doing anything and let us know where it is that everything is all peaches and cream. I will follow you, you lead us to that promised land where all the wiser younger officers are going.
There are many of us who would like to know where that promised land of employment nirvana is. Please divulge the secrets so that we can find true happiness also.
We'll be waiting.
Now excuse me while I go get a beer, order a pizza and turn the baseball game on. Three day weekend off, you know. I added a couple of days time due and don't go back to work until Wednesday.
Life is so rough. I only have a twelve pack in my fridge and the pizza will take so long to get here. Poor me.
They buried Cook County Sheriff Deputy and Illinois National Guard Soldier Jason Vazquez today-R.I.P.
His Father was interviewed and was very honorable and proud of his son defending the USA. God Bless the Vazquez family and Jason, may the Lord lighten your hearts.
SCC,
Major serious question here...
Speaking of INSIGNIFICANT
Do you think that our fearless leader found out what it meant yesterday at O'Hare???
LMAO
How poetic!!!
It looks like Da Mayor forgot to address the critical manpower shortage on the CPD today.
Speaking of which, here is a link to the speech, priceless to say the least:
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/09/city-hall-delay.html
If they continue stripping and firing coppers they will have to suit up the CFD in the monkey suit. Who will be left to do the job???
Anonymous said...
I just wanted to commend Commander Steve Georgas 018 on his sparring of several Officers in 018. Commander Georgas had the police office at 364 W. Oak closed for whatever reason. Officers were on foot posts when our lovely 37 year old clout baby drove by and saw several lawn chairs being used by Officers. He immediately called the Sgt. and had them all sparred even though no one was sitting in the chairs. What a guy! Also, you will see Steve comment as he always defends his actions on this wonderful blog. It's bad enough being punished to a non bid post at 364 or 365 W. Oak. Looking forward to BOY WONDERS response. GO TEAM CLOUT!!!!!!!!
9/26/2008 11:39:00 AM
Yeah, that DC of 018 is pretty pimpy. And he seems to have a lot of the white shirts that work for him shaking in their boots, at least when they are not tucked into his warm asshole! It's a great gig for time and a half, but standing for the whole tour is pretty ridiculous. Who cares if you sit down? If you're at least in the building, you're doing enough. I bet that DC got picked on as a child or something.
couple of things that drive me crazy!! Stop complaining about the union unless you actually go to meeting or you run for an office. You want change make it happen and stop whining!
also stop taking burglar alarms without an assist. Stop making street stops and TVBs without an assist. Stop transporting without an assist or a cage car. Stop taking two man jobs and telling the dispatcher I'll let ya know. wait for your assist. First of all for your own safety and second of all to emphasize that backlog.
To all you tact/gang guys in 025. Did you hear what your leader Lt. J.G. was talking about at the open forum with the Supe. Keep working for this piece of shit, he will sell you out in a heartbeat to make himself look better. Hey J.G. you fucken asshole, why don't you wait until both sides of the story are told before you sell out one of your own guys. You are a complete jagoff.
DEBATE PREDICTION:
obama and mcain tie, chicago bears lose
I was the only 10-4 unit in my district the other day.
I had a ride along.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get rid of all these B.S. units and put the patrolmen where they need to be. In the district answering calls for service!
9/26/2008 08:06:00 AM
Watch what you wish for junior.
Suddenly you will find yourself on 1st watch, with a 1a-2a furlough.
Now shut up and take in that domestic.
Selling off of taxpayers assets to fund ?????
Raiding pensions
Loosing employees left and right
Campaigning for the Olympics that has no benefit to the taxpayers. Displacing homeowners and lining the pockets of developers. Massive land grab.
High Crime
No contracts or raises
Lies about current conditions
Putting employees at risk knowingly
If this man worked for your company..... you'd fire him!
9/26/2008 08:10:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ARMY DEPLOYMENT 1 0CT 2008. Wake up folks, the army is comming back and is going to be re-deployed to protect the home front from terrorists and YOU GUESSED IT, civil unrest. Cities don't need more Cops, the army will be here to fill the void. Marshall law may come back too. Don't believe me, just search the internet for the truth. THIS IS FACT, SIGNED BY BUSH. Also, see FEMA CAMPS ON YOUTUBE. Be ready changes are comming, good and bad.
9/26/2008 08:14:00 AM
Dude, you need to get out of that cave in Idaho once in a while.
Need more PO's on the street? Why don't we finally start to actually empty out HQ and Homan Square. You wouldn't believe how many PO's are hiding there, doing their do-nothing protected jobs. Hell, even in the Districts themselves what about the Caps office and those that have overstuffed desk crews.
Don't get me wrong, we need to hire more, abesolutly. But we have SEVERAL HUNDRED PO's right now who need to finally be sent back onto the streets, and NOT into some "closed market" like program. The bodies are there, just look at the HQ parking lot at 1000 hrs any monday thru friday.
9/26/2008 09:49:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am one of the recruits waiting to be hired. Took the exam in 6/06, expecting an 18 month hiring period. Almost 30 months later, still sitting around. Being jerked around by my investigator. I was told I would start in May. May came and went, then promised june. Etc Etc Etc. Someone tell me why I want this job again?
9/26/2008 09:51:00 AM
Because McDonald's wouldn't hire you?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was at the Academy today, only saw one CPD class and the rest metros 90% of all the lockers are open. NOT GOOD AT ALL!!!
9/26/2008 01:40:00 PM
Yet the academy staff sits there twiddling their thumbs.
FYI - GANGLAND on history channel had the SD's on tonight - pretty interesting. it should be replaying all week for those interested.
nonymous said...
I was at the Academy today, only saw one CPD class and the rest metros 90% of all the lockers are open. NOT GOOD AT ALL!!!
9/26/2008 01:40:00 PM
Majority of CPD recruits were off today. Part of the new project at academy. Bridge week. replaces psych workshop, a proven and very effective program for 30 years. Now recruits are pushed hard, causing numerous injuries and the result? The new breed of recruits. One week of bullshit screaming and running will not make a difference. New, cute uniforms worn by staff. Really hot! Oh my!
There are 161 recruits in the academy right now and 40 of them are the Metro class. 121 CPD recruits and none planned for the rest of the year.
If you work 99 you have to be safe and wait for back-up...as Officer Francis showed us, that simple disturbance call can get you killed by someone you don't even think is a threat.
Words to live by:
ONLY A FOOL IS AFRAID OF KNOW ONE.
"**WOOF**
what was the last sound the mic picked up as JF walked behind king D.
9/26/2008 01:48:00 PM"
A fan of Jeopardy.
Sweet.
"1821H, 1822H and 1823H"
Being there's about 4 buildings left in Cabrini they should just makes those beats foot posts...
9/26/2008 07:40:00 AM
3 buildings north of Division. A couple of reds, and the rows. They also cover the Marshall Fields if needed and that cesspool at Vine and North ave. Fewer buildings, but the same assholes. The great part is that they are now mixed in with the liberals who bought into the "built on the site of the former Cabrini Green Development" bullshit. 8 years of college and they fell for that line.
So how many positions? Does the 13500 include civilians too? Who is getting the $185,347,200.00?
Got a camera in your car? Got/getting GPS in your car?
Got/getting new Tahoes?
That's where the $185,347,200.00 went
(of course to Da Mare's cronies)
9/26/2008 04:37:00 PM
"I wonder how a dangerously understaffed police force looks to the IOC.
9/26/2008 10:30:00 AM"
I wonder how it's possible for the citizens of this city to accept living in this environment, and not realizing exactly who's responsible for it being as it is.
Maybe JFed is a mole and is secretly working to take down Daley from the inside.....
9/26/2008 07:28:00 AM
hmmmmm....now that sounds very interesting. Hope he is keeping strict notes everytime Daley calls him and tells him what to do, what not to do, who to promote, etc. If that would be the case, I would be a big fan of JFed.
No, we're not short, that's why 1st watch in 021 tonight every beat car was 99 except for the wagon, housing car, and one car with a PPO.
9/26/2008 02:59:00 AM
DUMB-ASS: I'll give you a tip and a clue, NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT 021! Its a quiet Dist with a bunch of dog-ass's who have never done anything, or a few who figured out how to fill out a par form from shit-holes like 007,011. Do yourself a favor, go hit the hole along the beach front, close your eyes, remember to have someone wake you by 0530 or so!
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Couldn't the same had been said about 019 a few months ago you ignorant asshole. You could work in the slowest district in chicago and there is always a threat. You are wrong, i give a flying fuck about the people who work in 021, along with 018, 023, 019 and the other 21 districts.
And i work 3rd watch in a south side fast district, but i most definitely care about all PO's on all watches.
"The more money they save, the more they can give to their patronage buddies, I guess.
9/26/2008 10:10:00 AM"
You don't have to guess, you know, as do more and more citizens with every passing day.
We're at that point in time where the average citizen's propensity for remaining oblivious to the realities of life, of living within this city, county and state, can no longer be indulged in.
Going through life clueless has become an invitation for Darwin's principle of 'survival of the fittest' to be applied, with prejudice, to those who insist on remaining willfully ignorant and naive.
The politics of this region are, literally, killing the lives of some, and the spirits of many.
And who are the individuals effecting the politics of this region?
Long Term Incumbents, of both parties.
Invest in hard precious metals now and watch your pot exponentially grow.
9/26/2008 03:58:00 AM
Nope! Don't do that either, metals and gold are going down buddy. Don't invest, hold on to your money.
"Someone tell me why I want this job again?
9/26/2008 09:51:00 AM"
Because you're a man, or woman, who gives a shit.
It's not your fault that this city is being run by cocksuckers who don't.
5 words for J PUD; HAVE YOU NO DIGNITY MAN??????
"Another genius...
9/26/2008 09:15:00 AM"
Yes.
Too bad there aren't several hundred thousand more like him/her.
"Heh, heh, heh.
The Age of Information is upon you Shortshanks.
9/26/2008 08:33:00 AM"
Oh shit, the mayor has no clothes!
"we get it. you failed. stop your bitching. knock out a few crunchies and apply elsewhere you are better off
9/26/2008 07:52:00 AM"
No, you 'we' motherfuckers don't 'get it'.
anonymous said...
How about doing something about the medical roll abusers? So many fakers and scam artists.
9/26/2008 12:11:00 AM
Department's fault. They won't properly enforce their own medical policy and then blame officers for abusing it, yet still no enforcement.
What happened to the much ballyhooed medical integrity unit?
"Maybe JFed is a mole and is secretly working to take down Daley from the inside.....
9/26/2008 07:28:00 AM"
Inside what, daley's rectum?
McCAIN WINS first Debate. Way more knowledgable on foreign policy dealings than Obama. Obama looked pretty sharp though, but you could tell at times that he was winging it with rhetoric. No substitute for experience with Foreign Policey and Military matters. Tonight it showed through, clearly in McCain's favor.
We should have gotten RAMSEY instead of Weiss. No substitute for real police experience. Daley blew it.... AGAIN.
Sorry to hear about Sgt. Kelly, he will be missed much. He was probably driven to an early death by the stress and aggravation of working for political hack idiot supervisors in this assinine excuse for a P.D.
NO MORE 10-99
NO MORE 10-99
NO MORE 10-99
NO MORE 10-99
NO MORE 10-99
NO MORE 10-99
believe me the citizens know about 016 dist coppers..........they dont show up when the citizen needs help. they code their jobs out from afar. 016 dist cops are useless
what I dont understand is if all these people are unhappy on here why dont you go and get another job somewhere else? Oh thats right cause the ones that bitch are usually the ones who arent doing a fucking thing in the first place. If you hate J-fed. the maoyr and the job so much please get the fuck off of the dept. Casue the last time I checked you were hired to be the police and are still getting a paycheck to do that job
TO 9:51:00 AM:,Idiot waiting to be Hired:
You, DOPE are not a CPD recruit yet, as you haven't been hired. Don't blame the background investigator assigned to check out your dumb, sorry, stupid ass, he's doing his job, and if it's taking a long time, good. Hopefully the personnel background investigator will crawl up every inch of your dumb ass to make sure you are worthy of our department, and launch you if you are not. Glad to hear the investigators are taking their time and checking potential CPD employees out thoroughly. Hopefully they will weed out all the goofs, criminals, dummies, and deadbeats. You sound like a whining , cry-baby pussy already, and although we are short manpower, we really don't need any whining college boy-momma's boys or girls like you. I guess the CPD should drop everything to make sure you just get the job because your're so great. Why don't you go work for some small-town radar trap suburb? Or, perhaps, the Feds. Maybe a security guard at the suburban shopping mall, where you might be able to impress the little 14 yr. old girls who hang around there. GROW UP ALREADY, CHUMP. You're not even on this job yet and you're already whining like a little bitch...
Tired of it all, 2 yrs. and Out......
Anonymous said...
HEY PUBLIC ARM URSELVES THE POLICE CANT PROTECT U!!!!
9/26/2008 03:34:00 PM
Many of us already do.Its our god given and constitutional right to do so.
OT: I was at EM's funeral today...his sister spoke to everyone and reminded us that we shouldn't sweat the small stuff. She actually gave a beautiful speach today and yesterday at the wake. I think we all forget sometimes that through all the BS that this job entails we have our family, friends and loved ones. We have to remember not to get caught up in all the meaningless crap. We never know when it will be our time to leave this life. Enjoy everyday and always tell those you love that you do love them. RIP EM and all of those who we have lost. You are in our thoughts and prayers.
funny, just a few weeks ago at the city council meeting, didn't weiss say we were 1400men down?
LAPD IS HIRING . YES THAT IS RIGHT , STARTING PAY IS 54,467.00 AND IF YOU HAVE A BS IS 61,000.00
ALL EQUIPMENT PAID FOR AND NO RESIDENCY.
9/26/2008 03:52:00 PM
No Residency requirement, but the commute is for shit from where $60k gets you. That is unless you want a place in L.A. which presents many of the same problem our "Officer Next Door" program has. Englewood or Inglewood? Take your pick. At least there's no winter there, but then a again there's no Pro Football either.
"...T---Too
M---Much
A---Authority.."
I actually thought it meant:
T---Thousands
M---Milling
A---Around.
The Keesing Bandit says---
"...you can thank the 15 person entertainment unit in 018..."
There's an entertainment unit in 018????
If I go to work there, will they let me sing my show tunes???
Now, kees me you fool!!!
Can't the FOP raise some money and put something to represent us to the citizens on TV.... "Public Service Announcment"
Anonymous said...
funny, just a few weeks ago at the city council meeting, didn't weiss say we were 1400men down?
9/26/2008 11:18:00 PM
After awhile all the lies get fuzzy. If Chicago can take a Top G-Man in and spin him out in a few months this thing called the machine is like a superpowered turbo washing machine.
The shortage of allotted manpower is just the tip of the iceberg. Look into the number of limited duty officers, convalescent duty officers, and officers detailed to unit 376. None can work the street. Add in the chronic medical abusers and you can figure out why there are downed beat cars. This is the real problem that needs to be addressed.
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we have 60 officers in our district that never see the street. Its a tooth to tale problem.
OT: Is it true Ron Huberman is going in front of the Pension Board, Monday, 29 Sep 08, to request CPD pension credits for the time he is working for the CTA? He says working for the CTA is part of Homeland Security. If this is true the pension board trustee’s should be flooded with calls on Monday before the meeting. This is absolutely outrageous.
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He deserves it. He's doing a good job.
TO 9:51:00 AM:,Idiot waiting to be Hired:
You, DOPE are not a CPD recruit yet, as you haven't been hired. Don't blame the background investigator assigned to check out your dumb, sorry, stupid ass, he's doing his job, and if it's taking a long time, good. Hopefully the personnel background investigator will crawl up every inch of your dumb ass to make sure you are worthy of our department, and launch you if you are not. Glad to hear the investigators are taking their time and checking potential CPD employees out thoroughly. Hopefully they will weed out all the goofs, criminals, dummies, and deadbeats. You sound like a whining , cry-baby pussy already, and although we are short manpower, we really don't need any whining college boy-momma's boys or girls like you. I guess the CPD should drop everything to make sure you just get the job because your're so great. Why don't you go work for some small-town radar trap suburb? Or, perhaps, the Feds. Maybe a security guard at the suburban shopping mall, where you might be able to impress the little 14 yr. old girls who hang around there. GROW UP ALREADY, CHUMP. You're not even on this job yet and you're already whining like a little bitch...
Tired of it all, 2 yrs. and Out......
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Wow, what crawled up this guys ass? If you read the initial post the investigator has been telling this kid he was going to get hired like over a year ago. I would be pissed too. I remember when i was told I was only a month or so out i quit my full time job and took a nice trip across the country. I believed and trusted the background investigator and in my case he told me the truth. Had i been in this kids shoes where the investigator keeps lying to me for over a year i would be fuckin pissed.
So you old timer with only "2 years left and out" why don't you do us a favor and retire early. You know you're the old salty guy that thinks he knows everything, doesn't do anything and the guy nobody wants to work with.
No, we're not short, that's why 1st watch in 021 tonight every beat car was 99 except for the wagon, housing car, and one car with a PPO.
9/26/2008 02:59:00 AM
its dangerous sleeping 99, not to many hiding spots
9/26/2008 09:11:00 AM
It's not about how busy the district is jacka@@, it's the fact the city is making you work 99.
"what I dont understand is if all these people are unhappy on here why dont you go and get another job somewhere else? Oh thats right cause the ones that bitch are usually the ones who arent doing a fucking thing in the first place. If you hate J-fed. the maoyr and the job so much please get the fuck off of the dept. Casue the last time I checked you were hired to be the police and are still getting a paycheck to do that job"
Dude you would be a lot more credible if you used more spell check and less profanity....
If the districts are so short where do they find the manpower to create midnight gang teams, midnight tact teams, midnight incident teams?
They buried Cook County Sheriff Deputy and Illinois National Guard Soldier Jason Vazquez today-R.I.P.
His Father was interviewed and was very honorable and proud of his son defending the USA. God Bless the Vazquez family and Jason, may the Lord lighten your hearts.
9/26/2008 06:46:00 PM
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Yes, Jason was a very nice guy, knew him personally. He wanted to be a chicago cop, his grammar school wants to name the gym after him, he was hell of a basketball player in High School #33. May he rest in peace while, he died while serving our country...He will be missed.
Anonymous said...
Has anyone noticed how many younger coppers are hanging it up in favor of greener pastures?
9/26/2008 12:56:00 AM
Let them they ain't nothing but a bunch of CHICKEN SHITS
If the districts are so short where do they find the manpower to create midnight gang teams, midnight tact teams, midnight incident teams?
We're going to assume this is a legit question and not some sarcastic attempt at humor.
Cart before the horse sir. It's exactly the fact that they have all these goofy teams that Patrol cannot fulfill its basic function.
what I dont understand is if all these people are unhappy on here why dont you go and get another job somewhere else? Oh thats right cause the ones that bitch are usually the ones who arent doing a fucking thing in the first place. If you hate J-fed. the maoyr and the job so much please get the fuck off of the dept. Casue the last time I checked you were hired to be the police and are still getting a paycheck to do that job
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Hey Butt Breath...we still love this job and what we do...we just want to know we're not going to go to jail for doing our jobs, and we want a contract that is fair.
And we are still doing our jobs, we're just not the coppers we used to be.
I worked in a yuppie district until I couldn't stand it anymore. Was taking a shoplifter out of a Jewel, and she started screaming, and trying to lay down, as soon as we got near the exit.
Customers were actually yelling at us, saying 'stop mistreating that girl!' They did not see behind the scenes when she BIT me, and kicked me in the shins.
That is a mild, mild example of the crap we have to put up with...especially from TROLLS like you....go find another blog. Sir.
Wow, what crawled up this guys ass? If you read the initial post the investigator has been telling this kid he was going to get hired like over a year ago. I would be pissed too. I remember when i was told I was only a month or so out i quit my full time job and took a nice trip across the country. I believed and trusted the background investigator and in my case he told me the truth. Had i been in this kids shoes where the investigator keeps lying to me for over a year i would be fuckin pissed.
So you old timer with only "2 years left and out" why don't you do us a favor and retire early. You know you're the old salty guy that thinks he knows everything, doesn't do anything and the guy nobody wants to work with.
9/27/2008 12:35:00 AM
Retard.
Give Ronnie "DA LUBE" Huberman anything he wants. He DA MAN and you don't mess with DA LUBE.
Short 250? 400?
Yeah,per district.
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