City Overreaches for Tax Money
How would you like to rent a car in Waukegan or St. Charles, only to be slapped with the 8 percent "transaction tax" that applies to Chicago car rentals?
Brace yourself. With a burgeoning $50.5 million budget gap, Chicago is reaching into suburban pockets. And Enterprise Rent-a-Car has filed a lawsuit challenging the Daley administration's effort to collect the tax from drivers who rent cars in the suburbs.
The suit was filed last week in Kane County after an administrative ruling by the city's Department of Revenue that City Hall will "presume" that all car rentals in the six-county area are subject to Chicago's 8 percent transaction tax.
"Presume?" Who the fuck are these idiots? In a six-county area, they are just going to assess an 8% tax on car rentals?
Hopefully, Enterprise Rent-a-Car wins this and wins big. Then we can find some entity with deep pockets to start attacking the fact that if we shop around for the best car deal in existence and manage to find it over the border in Indiana, the City still demands their cut of a tax on a transaction that takes place entirely outside of their borders.
Will someone please schedule the revolution shortly? We've got weekends coming up.
Hopefully, Enterprise Rent-a-Car wins this and wins big. Then we can find some entity with deep pockets to start attacking the fact that if we shop around for the best car deal in existence and manage to find it over the border in Indiana, the City still demands their cut of a tax on a transaction that takes place entirely outside of their borders.
Will someone please schedule the revolution shortly? We've got weekends coming up.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
51 Comments:
Haaa-Haaaa!!
soooo... maybe when a city of chicago "revenu-er" (loved that word since barney google & snuffy smith!) shows up at one of these rental outfits talking mega-shittage, the local constabulary (please let it be outside of cook county) will be called and the interloper promptly gets locked the fuck up on a signed complaint for trespass & or s.u.b? the shits & giggles factor is amusing in it's own right!
shortshanks is vindictive, he'd probably pull some shit like fucking with the water most of these communities have piped in from the lake via you guessed it... chicago
Soon asshole daley will demand an ID be shown whenever anything is bought outside of the city in order to tax items bought by shitcago residents.... This jag-off needs to get off the crack pipe.
ANY ATTORNEY'S OUT THERE?
So if everything I own is in a trust registered to an out of county PO box could I just buy a car for the trust and then register it to the PO box out of county. No Name trust.
No city sticker needed? No Chicago premium on insurance? No city tax on a new car?
A VERY INTERESTING IDEA!
THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE~!
Never Rent a car in the city limits. Always go outside the city limits to save on all the taxes shortshanks had on car rentals. It will cost you half the price when you rent outside Dick Daleys limits.. Have a safe day. and as always screw daley.
Shortshanks will want to GPS all rental cars and install meters....cross the cit line and...ding..ding...ding goes the meter.
Can you believe the balls on this city??? This is the type of taxation that really riles people up.
The only voice in Chicago media fighting this democrat state leadership is Mancow. Everyday he says something positive about CPD. He calls out mayor directly, that little bitch Roe Conn sucks. Roe Conns whole show sounds like a bad Seinfeld impersonation. I never really listened to Mancow before but he has a good show. He is our local Michael Savage.
Nothing like legal-EXTORTION ... lol.
He learned from the best, most of those guy are doing life terms in Federal pens.
Who ever posted about Al Capone Daley being vindictive and about him messing with the burbs water is 100% correct.
PO Box guy, I belive Ill. law states you get taxed where ever your DL says you live. Im not positive so please dont jump on me, I bet there's someone in internet land who figured out a loop hole.
How bout Daley's guy in the white house wanting to tax us on gas according to the mileage on our cars.
Anyone see Micheal Moore's new movie SICKO ? Im not a big fan, but he did open my eyes to some shit.
Bless the working Police
Bless the picked on in highschool police(they need it)
Bless the USA
Bless the troops
Bless the "Right to Carry" Laws
Thank you
Un-Armed-City Worker-Target
the city collects tax when i bu a car outside the city! what gives them the right to do that ?
Whats next groceries ?
Talk about nuts! I grew up in Chcago, worked there, and taught there. There is no way I go into Chicago unless it's to visit my daughter or get my taxes done. Very, very occasionally I go into Chicago to visit friends. I never shop in Chicago. The taxes are too high.
I live in the suburbs now and drive my own car. Is Daley to try to steal some of the gas taxes too?
"Just in case I drive into Chicago".
He's getting looser than Corn Flakes
TO 2/25/2009 01:28:00 AM concerning "trusts, etc".
I think you should get a book called, "Trusts for Dummies". and I am not being sarcastic, but it will give you a basic understanding of what a trust is. You can't register a trust to a PO box. btw. It can be the mailing address for a trust, but not the address of record.
For a start you could try wikipedia, they give a brief run-down on "Trusts".
The basic problem with your logic is this,,,"If everything I own is in a trust"...then you own nothing.
All Police Officers should consider Estate Planning especially if you have minor children. It never hurts to think through what will happen in the event of a tragedy, talk it over with your spouses or significant others, at the very least.
I'm not a cop so I have no idea if the FOP or CPFCU offers any such services, but they should.
.....so what is to stop King Asshole from saying if you live in Chicago and buy anything outside the city you must pay the City tax? Are you fucking serious! The simple solution is this......
"no, i will not be driving in the city with this car, even though I live in the city, my family is in the city, both my wife and girlfriend live there too and my job is in the city.. but no, i will not be driving in the city, so fuck you.....oh by the way, how do you get to the lake from here?"
Fuck you Mayor Pudge Face Fuck!
Anotehr dumb idea brought to you by the daley crime family! daley has totally destroyed this city,people that pay the taxes here don't want his olympics but his "envelope stuffers the cash crew" want it! Will Fitzgerald ever indict the entire criminal empire?
Pimp...Politician...Prostitute.. Three words that interchaneable and they perfectly describe Mayor Shortshanks..Richie put the crack pipe down....
No taxation without representation.
I say we let the tax go through and let the suburbs vote for the mayor of the city of shitcago. In fact, if you are charged for city water you also get a vote. I have no idea why the jag keeps getting elected. No one I know has ever admitted to voting for the jag.
So would Dickie be ok with the surrounding suburbs thinking up a way to tax the City to recover some of the money Dickie is taking from their residents like if someone rents a car in the city and drives into the burbs??? I DON'T THINK SO. Dickie would be up in arms crying NOT FAIR on the news calling them Coo Coo. WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS JAG-OFF AND PUT HIM BEHIND BARS!!!!
Brace yourself. With a burgeoning $50.5 million budget gap, Chicago is reaching into suburban pockets. And Enterprise Rent-a-Car has filed a lawsuit challenging the Daley administration's effort to collect the tax from drivers who rent cars in the suburbs.
Idits. Don't they know HE owns the state and not the whole country with BHO in the white house? You will pay.
Never Rent a car in the city limits. Always go outside the city limits to save on all the taxes shortshanks had on car rentals. It will cost you half the price when you rent outside Dick Daleys limits.. Have a safe day. and as always screw daley.
2/25/2009 04:52:00 AM
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Read the article!! This jackass is trying to tax you for renting a car OUTSIDE the city limits! Someone has to stop this turd!
It would be nice if a group of Chicago citizens would ban together and file some sort of class action suit against this crappy city. What a slippery slope, next if you buy a pack of cigarettes in Indiana will the city be adding a Chicago tax, the same for gas, food and any other services purchase outside of the city. What gives these thieves at city hall the right to even think that they can impose a mobility tax on its citizens
Anonymous said...
Shortshanks will want to GPS all rental cars and install meters....cross the cit line and...ding..ding...ding goes the meter.
2/25/2009 06:58:00 AM
Silly, silly, just damn silly.
If shortshanks wants revenue. Tax the income of all those people who derive their income while working in SHITCAGO and living in Indiana.
Also, when you see a road crew or contractor doing city work. Run the plates. They are registered outside the city/state. I'm sure it is to avoid the vehicle tax and more. However, they are employed/contracted by the city.
Anonymous said...
ANY ATTORNEY'S OUT THERE?
So if everything I own is in a trust registered to an out of county PO box could I just buy a car for the trust and then register it to the PO box out of county. No Name trust.
No city sticker needed? No Chicago premium on insurance? No city tax on a new car?
A VERY INTERESTING IDEA!
THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE~!
2/25/2009 01:28:00 AM
Courts have held that the key to the City of Chicago Vehicle license is not where the vehicle is registered, but it's SITUS (pronounced sightuss) or "a location that is or is held to be the site of something (as property or a crime or tort)", or more clearly, where the vehicle is kept or garaged most of the time.
Thus if you own, say, an Oil Express in Niles and have a company car registered there, but you live on Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, and drive back and forth each day and park overnight in Chicago, that vehicle, technically, should have a city sticker from Chicago, not Niles.
ANY ATTORNEY'S OUT THERE?
So if everything I own is in a trust registered to an out of county PO box could I just buy a car for the trust and then register it to the PO box out of county. No Name trust.
No city sticker needed? No Chicago premium on insurance? No city tax on a new car?
A VERY INTERESTING IDEA!
THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE~!
2/25/2009 01:28:00 AM
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You still have to buy the sticker. It's a tax for use of/parking on the City streets.
Insurance-wise, sure, until you get caught. Once your company finds out the car is actually garaged in the City or, worse, parked on the City streets at night, they'll either jack up your rates or drop you. And, they'll report your lie to the entire insurance company computer syndicate.
Don't outslick yourself, Slick.
why don't they go after u-haul-- all rentals have arizona license plates-- also no city stickers-- and they are all driven here.
The Chicago Tea Party is friday at 11am at Daley Plaza.
www.officialchicagoteaparty.com or look for it on Facebook.
The more the merrier - wanna bet the media glosses over it just like they did the Second Amendment Freedom Rally last summer?
WOW! Massa Richard jus gonna takes da moneys from everywhere.
Fuck him! I hope the rental business wins this suit!
BTW: FORBES just ranked Chicago the 6th worst housing market, just thought you should know. It just keeps getting better and better, doesn’t it?!?!
How would the city ever enforce such a tax?
I would hope the courts shoot this idea down very quickly.
Now, if they were to limit it to Chicago residents, they might have a shot at it.
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So if everything I own is in a trust registered to an out of county PO box could I just buy a car for the trust and then register it to the PO box out of county. No Name trust.
No city sticker needed? No Chicago premium on insurance? No city tax on a new car?
No doubt you can do that, but to insure it, you normally have to tell the insurance company where it will be parked overnight. My guess is you will have a tough time with them on it. And keep in mind that if you give them some kind of accommodation address that you do not actually live at, that is probably insurance fraud, and is a crime.
There is precedant on the new car tax thing. The state of Illinois has been able to enforce making its citizens pay the sales tax on cars bought out of state. No reason Chicago could not also do so.
Get yo hand out my pocket...........
ANY ATTORNEY'S OUT THERE?
So if everything I own is in a trust registered to an out of county PO box could I just buy a car for the trust and then register it to the PO box out of county. No Name trust.
No city sticker needed? No Chicago premium on insurance? No city tax on a new car?
A VERY INTERESTING IDEA!
THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE~!
2/25/2009 01:28:00 AM
You do not need an attorney. If you are the cops, or any city employee for that matter, they will get you administratively. And even if you fly under the radar for a while, your neighbors, your ex, a pissed off coworker, etcetera will give you up. Seriously, it has been tried in the past. Fuck rmd some other way, there are plenty of ways to do it, but don't play fuck him with your wheels because it will just fuck you up.
Daley has lost his mind. The city council is obviously useless. How all this stupid shit passes is beyond me. The corruption is out of control. The feds continue to sit on their hands with dickhead daley. he lines his pockets with tax payers money; its been going on since he's been in office. leasing and selling the city right under our feet. dreams of an olympics that 87% of the city residents "don't" want. no police on the streets, no city services, the mayors priorities half ass backwards, public safety at major risk but dummy has a bummling excuse for everything. he keeps stealing our money, making it impossible to survive living in this city and nothings ever done about it. makes me want to throwup!
If we had only 25 aldermen, the city would not have to go outside the city for money. The aldermen gave nothing back and took their raise. VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT!
As a Chicagoan and a CRook Co. taxpayer with a family to support, I have had enough of these crooked bastard politicians.
In Sacramento, a legislator has introduced a bill to legalize and heavily tax marijuana, by far California's largest cash crop. A $50 tax per ounce would fill state coffers with a BILLION dollars a year.
Chicago also needs gambling casinos and legal brothels like Nevada. Tax the hell out of them and leave us alone.
I have no interest in smoking pot, casino gambling or patronizing whore houses. Isolate a certain part of the city for "victimless crimes" that have occurred since the beginning of time and cut our current taxes by at least half.
My job and certain responsibilities preclude my family from moving out of this cesspool.
As a Chicagoan and a CRook Co. taxpayer with a family to support, I have had enough of these crooked bastard politicians.
In Sacramento, a legislator has introduced a bill to legalize and heavily tax marijuana, by far California's largest cash crop. A $50 tax per ounce would fill state coffers with a BILLION dollars a year.
Chicago also needs gambling casinos and legal brothels like Nevada. Tax the hell out of them and leave us alone.
I have no interest in smoking pot, casino gambling or patronizing whore houses. Isolate a certain part of the city for "victimless crimes" that have occurred since the beginning of time and cut our current taxes by at least half.
My job and certain responsibilities preclude my family from moving out of this cesspool.
2/25/2009 03:49:00 PM
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Wrong: they will do this, PLUS keep your taxes sky high. Remember, it's never enough for them. They always want MORE. Ever notice how taxes only go up..just like rain falls down.
Isolate a certain part of the city for "victimless crimes" that have occurred since the beginning of time and cut our current taxes by at least half.
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They already tax your dog, why not hookers as well?
Should hookers be taxed by the year? How much they charge? What service(s) they perform?
Will the hookers try to register themselves outside of the city to avoid the hooker tax?
"...I have no interest in casino gambling, smoking pot, or patronizing whore houses..."
Only one out of the three are legal here. Darn.
"....get yo hand outta my pocket..."
Only if you insist.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
You will pay Richie's tax and like it.He is not only in charge of the whole state now he has the ear of the GREAT ONE in Washington.What a pompous asshole.
I have no interest in smoking pot, casino gambling or patronizing whore houses. Isolate a certain part of the city for "victimless crimes" that have occurred since the beginning of time and cut our current taxes by at least half.
OH YOU CAN'T DO THAT, 95% OF THE TACT TEAMS WOULD HAVE ZERO ACTIVITY.
Not too long ago I rented a car from enterprise. the office I was renting from was located in Elmwood Park. The car I was given was brand new...the thing still had the plastic inside covering part of the dash. The guy that was renting me the car and getting it ready told me hang on just as I was going to get in and leave. Reason why...IT NEEDED A CITY STICKER....A SHITCAGO CITY STICKER. I said "But this is Elmwood Park.". guy says they put Shitcago stickers on ALL their cars. WHAT A SHAM THIS CITY IS!!!
Every fucking increase in tax I have to pay to live in the Daley gulag means more days on the medical each year. They fuck me, I fuck them worse. that's how it works. Don't get mad, just smile and get even.
Why hasn't there been a class-action lawsuit filed against the city for paying taxes when you purchase your car outside the city? We should be able to purchase a car anywhere w/out an additional tax from city hall. Any attorney with a set of balls out there??
OT: speaking of taxes (attention smokers) af of this March you will pay a Messiah Stimulus excise tax from 4 to 6 dollars a carton. this tax will be assessed to ALL 50 States. no puns please. we all have our habits t/y
8:52 P.M. there was a lawsuit against the city charging tax on vehicles purchased outside the city in mid-eighties.Can you guess who won?I bought a nissan sentra in Niles...after numerous threats and increases in fines I did what all us sheep do I paid.No one can beat this asshole.
"OT: speaking of taxes (attention smokers) af of this March you will pay a Messiah Stimulus excise tax from 4 to 6 dollars a carton. this tax will be assessed to ALL 50 States. no puns please. we all have our habits t/y
2/25/2009 09:03:00 PM"
Whether you smoke factory made, ryo, pipe, cigar, etc., it's a big whack, the biggest being a whopping 2300% increase on bulk ryo.
http://www.nocigtax.com/tax-facts/federal
http://sbecouncil.blogspot.com/2009/01/stop-federal-tobacco-tax-hike.html
http://ryorevolution.com/ryo-tobacco-tax.html
http://www.smokersnews.com/cigarette-taxes/294/senate-passes-federal-cigarette-tax-hike/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179441/posts
"The only voice in Chicago media fighting this democrat state leadership is Mancow...."
i totally agree. i was listening to 890 this morning and mancow let off on burris, obama, and daley. 100% dead on and always compliments the police. i never listened to his garbage when he was on FM but since his move to AM hes been hitting the nail right on the head.
" OH YOU CAN'T DO THAT, 95% OF THE TACT TEAMS WOULD HAVE ZERO ACTIVITY.
2/25/2009 07:03:00 PM"
Change their mission to tracking down graft.
That'll keep 'em busy for about a century.
"VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT!
2/25/2009 02:41:00 PM"
Here's the only, mathematically certain method to accomplish this:
1. Identify and locate the Incumbent's name on the ballot.
2. If the Incumbent's name is listed 1st, vote for whoever is listed LAST
or
3. If the incumbent's name is NOT listed 1st, vote for whoever IS listed 1st.
If enough voters do this, the Incumbent loses.
Party Primaries are the best times to try this, as the elimination of a Party Incumbent can't be good for that party's chances to be, or remain, the majority.
Silly, silly, just damn silly.
If shortshanks wants revenue. Tax the income of all those people who derive their income while working in SHITCAGO and living in Indiana.
Also, when you see a road crew or contractor doing city work. Run the plates. They are registered outside the city/state. I'm sure it is to avoid the vehicle tax and more. However, they are employed/contracted by the city.
2/25/2009 11:47:00 AM
HELLO DICK MELL AND YOUR "ENVELOPE FRIEND" CHRISTY WEBER LANDSCAPING,EXPIRED PLATES NOT REGISTERED HERE WTF! COME ON DICK ROD IS GOING TO JAIL WITH PATTY HOPE UR NEXT!
You guys are a bunch of crying babies, there are at least 8000 of you and what 60 or 70 politico's you guys have guns and they dont! Start a revolution im sure the public would join in on the fun! If we dont do it now we will soon be in bondage for our entire lives! Chicago Tea party here we come!
TAX MONEY
"BUY CHICAGO"
AS A GOOD CHICAGOAN, BORN & RAISED,
I BUY AS MUCH AS I CAN IN THE CITY.
I TRY NOT TO GO TO THE SUBURBS, FIRST OF ALL THERE ARE TO MANY
SUBURBANITES, NOT TO MENTION THE
HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE CITY...
SOMETIMES MY WIFE BUYS SOMETHING IN THE BURBS AND WHEN SHE GIVES ME
THE RECEIPTS I FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH
THE CITY LOST ON MY WIFES BUYS.WELL
I IMMEDIATELY WRITE A CHECK FOR THE
LOST REVENUE AND SEND IT OFF TO THE CITY. WHEN WE GO OUT OF TOWN ON
VACATION I DO THE SAME THING. WHY
SHORT CHANGE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORLD
CLASS CITY THAT PROVIDES SUCH GREAT
CITY SERVICES AND DELIGHTS IN BEING
SUPPORTIVE OF IT'S EMPLOYEES AND
OF COURSE THE ASTOUNDING SUPPORT BY
THE MAYOR FOR THE CPD. YOU CAN SEE
AND FEEL HIS LOVE THROUGHT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.IF WE ALL PULL
TOGETHER WE CAN GET OUT OF OUR
DEFECIT AND HAVE THE OLYMPICS TOO.
LIFE COULD BE SO GREAT IN OUR KIND
OF TOWN.
"BUY CHICAGO"
"BUY CHICAGO"
"BYE CHICAGO"
Want to see Daley go really berserk!
He just had a Black History Month video out saying how Jean Batiste Du Sable was a personal hero of his.
OK, let's get a bunch of Black college, high-school and most important elementary school students to pass petitions to rename MILLENIUM Park as JEAN BATISTE Du SABLE Park.
If it gets on TV and on Mary Mitchell's column it will drive Shortshanks into apoplexy. After all, that park is supposed to have his name on it eventually.
Shortshanks' 6 1/2 % tax on rental equipment drove the movie business out of Chicago.
In the 70s-80s until the mid 90s a lot of large and small film and TV productions were made here. When that tax hit it put a lot of small businesses out of business. Some even moved to Toronto lock-stock and barrel. There were news stories on TV of here is your chance to buy a piece of Hollywood history when a prop shop was selling off their inventory.
Sure, there are some productions which were made here lately; but the economics are very different. Now the productions bring almost everything and almost everyone with them. They don't hire and rent locally like they did before. Many cops used to get a lot of work in movies as extras simply on phone calls. Those days were a lot of fun. Now to get a days work in that you have to waste a day on a "cattle call" and may get nothing. Leave it to Richie to ruin a good thing.
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