Concealed Carry in Illinois?
- Illinois law enforcement officials are divided over a new attempt to permit the state's residents to carry concealed handguns.
Rep. John Bradley, D-Marion, has proposed a "Family and Personal Protection Act" that would set statewide standards for issuing concealed carry permits and would exempt permit holders from various unlawful use of weapons laws. The bill, HB0245, was referred to the rules committee after first reading last week.
Similar bills have been introduced, and shunted aside, in most recent legislative sessions. This year, though, the idea could get a boost from the Illinois Sheriff's Association.
Even if it happened in Illinois (a very long shot by any stretch of the imagination). Shortshanks would add exemptions banning Chicago residents from actually being able to defend themselves from criminals. Overtaxed, unarmed and ignorant seems to be the way Daley wants all his voters.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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I strongly encourage everyone to join the NRA and the ISRA. Defend your rights.
If you think that this doesn't affect you or your rights as a PO, think again.
The City of Chicago attempted to keep retired law enforcement officers from getting their Federally allowed "right to carry" privileges.
The City of Chicago and Crook County currently forbid law enforcement officers from owning certain guns.
The City of Chicago mandates what gun you can carry off-duty, unlike most departments.
The State of Illinois wants to ban all ammunition manufactured prior to 2008.
The NRA is the lead organization for law enforcement training nationwide.
Freedom and the 2nd Amendment go hand-in-hand.
Defend Freedom, support the 2nd Amendment.
Join the NRA and the ISRA today!
Free Cozzi!!!
There is a building backlash, developing into a tidal wave in Illinois, the smart pols sense it and are complying with their constituents wishes.
ILLINOIS: Illinois Gun Owner Lobby Day! Please join your fellow Illinois gun owners for the annual Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day (IGOLD) on March 11, 2009, in Springfield! This is your opportunity to lobby your lawmakers directly and make a positive impact for all Illinois gun owners. Do not miss the largest gun rights rally and Second Amendment lobbying event in Illinois history! We need thousands of Illinois gun owners, hunters, sportsmen, and those who simply wish to defend their right to keep and bear arms to gather at the Prairie Capitol Convention Center. We will march down Capitol Avenue, rally on the Capitol steps, and then proceed inside to lobby legislators to make our presence known. There will be no mistaking that Illinois gun owners intend to stand up and speak out for our right to keep and bear arms in the state of Illinois! This will be one of the most important days of the year for Illinois gun owners!
For more information on IGOLD 2009, to sign-up online, or for more information on scheduled bus routes, please visit http://igold.isra.org/, or call the Illinois State Rifle Association at (815) 635-3198.
There is also legislation in Congress to have national reciprocity between all States with CCW.
While there is a slim chance that pat Quinn would sign this bill, Chicago will never allow it.
Do you think that King Richard's street goons would loose the upper hand on sheeple ?
Of course shortshanks wants everyone to remain sheeple. This thing has a better chance without blago, a known gun hater. Thats the silver lining in having him out.
Daley does'nt want you to be able to protect yourself from criminals, the parallel makes him uncomfortable for obvious reasons.
One more way to hold shortshanks feet to the fire. Every honest cop on the job should be supporting this.
When I lived there, I carried. It was only a misdemeanor back then. Got stopped one day by CPD. Told the guy I was just out of the Army, had just moved there, and admitted when asked to carrying my .45, to which the cop said, "Well, I'll run you and if you're clean, no problem." I was on my way in minutes. (I was in a part of town where I WOULD NOT have been if I WAS from Chicago, LOL....) It took YEARS of other BS to damage the first massively positive impression I had of CPD, and that's why I waited/tried for so many years to get on with you guys. I really thought you were the shit and I wanted to be one of you. That was back in the early 80's, different world now....But I still wish all the Real Police in that town the best.
For annual renewal and pursuant to H.R. 218, the Illinois Retired Officer Concealed Carry (IROCC) is now requiring a color photo of the retiree no larger than 4" x 6" taken on a white or light background, specifically citing a blue or gray background as okay. No polaroids permitted.
What city locations would provide the cheapest and quickest way to get one photo?
(Years ago, they used to have those photo booths in 5 + 10 stores.)
You can then submit the photo via eMail (jennette@letac.org) or U.S. mail.
Thank you.
That's nice but wake me when I can get an FFL...
Don't matter, Congress is going to take rights away. Its already in the works.
What's the mayor gonna do if/when he finds out that I have a rocket in my pocket?
I wonder if Chicago's residents know that the governing body of Chicago that voted to take away their rights to possess handguns also voted to retain the right for themselves. You can't have a gun but the aldershitheads can. The Chicago way.
Concealed Carry is a great thing. It enhances personal safety as well as that of the public at large and reduces crime. But the key issue here is will the law contain PRE-EMPTION. Meaning that the state law pre-empts local ordinances.
Without pre-emption, this is as useless as teats on a bull as far as Chicago is concerned.
Overtaxed, unarmed and ignorant seems to be the way Daley wants all his voters.
You forgot to mention either on govt. aide, retarded, or both.
I think the idea of retired guys carrying guns is wrong. If one wishes to carry a concealed weapon, they should have some type of power test for it. Otherwise this guys weapon is ripe for the taking.
Oh I don't know. He could create a city "carry and conceal" license that would have to be renewed every year at $100 each.
How many people live in the city???
...The State of Illinois wants to ban all ammunition manufactured prior to 2008...
2/01/2009 12:12:00 AM
Sounds like someone is getting a payoff from the ammunition manufacturers. If all pre-2008 ammo is banned, we'd all have to go out and buy new ammo, wouldn't we ?
Hmmmm ? ? ? VERRRY INTERESTING ! ! !
"Concealed Carry in Illinois?"
Join the NRA and the ISRA today!
2/01/2009 12:12:00 AM
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...the key issue here is will the law contain PRE-EMPTION. Meaning that the state law pre-empts local ordinances...
2/01/2009 04:38:00 AM
Richie and Chicago will be exempt from CCW due to Home Rule.
Don't get all excited. They are talking about Illinois not the Kingdom of Chicago. We are not even subject to Federal law under the rule of King Babble the Greasy.
here is a classic example of pissing moaning bitching cops not knowing what side to stand on... John Bradley recently proposed a gas tax increase to help fund Illinois infrastructure. His logic was that since gas is back down to a reasonable cost, citizens of Illinois would not notice a moderate jump in the price... not enough to stop driving, anyways... This is the same ideaology that OPEC and other Arab oil producing nations subscribe to. Hence, $4.50 a gallon this summer! Anyways, this conceal carry is just a smoke screen for his gas tax... it is an age old political tool if something you propose doesnt get the attention you feel it deserves, propose something ridiculous and your first idea will seem plausible. So there will be no conceal carry here, but your gas taxes will sky rocket enjoy
1:32 am. Madigan and Quinn (products of Ireland) are bigger gun Haters than Count Blago.
IROCC allows you to simply email them a photo of yourself even after taking the qualification. Simply title the photo with your ID so they don't screw it up. Call them or ask when qualifying. Take your own photo digitally for it or go to any Walgreens, CVS, etc, for a passport photo and get it digitally from them to take with. I am sure they will complicate it soon enough, but for now it is easy.
People that have been victims of crime where the use of a firearm could have prevented the crime,murder,rape,arson etc,should sue the county and the city. Use the tactics they employed against the gun industry.Hit them where it hurts ,hard fast and often in the pockets.Leave shortshanks with nothing but his leather thong and Indiana Jones hat.
Chicago politician Bobby Rush (former black panther) introduced a bill which is in direct opposition to the Bill of Rights. Because he violated his Oath of Office (Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution) he should be removed. Why is there no outcry? Is it because he chose to violate the 2nd amendment and not the 1st or 4th? Wake up people, it's all part of the same document.
Illinois and Wisconsin, the ONLY two states that have politicians willing to guarantee their criminals a safe working environment. Maybe the pols in Illinois have more in common with the criminals than with their constituents. And why is this Constitutional Right being taxed and licensed? Taxing and licensing a Right is beyond Legislative authority and should be challenged.
Start the process by getting a
Pennsylvania non-resident permit.1 form, 10 days, and $26.00. Good for 25 states. Look up Centre County Sheriff (LTCF), this man understands the 2nd. amendment. There is no reason you should not be able to protect yourself and your loved ones.
How long till Daley realizes he can charge a huge fee to register handguns and charge even a bigger tax to purchase them if you live in Chicago, like gas, cigarettes, water, alcohol, etc...?
WHY I CARRY A GUN
A old timer in the PD once said to me son, 'there comes a time in every mans life when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin'.
I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life
hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
Police Protection is an oxymoron.
Free citizens must protect themselves.
Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin' !!
The state wants to ban all ammunition manufactured prior to 2008?! Where did you get that crazy accusation?
There's crazy and then there's crazy, and this makes no damn sense whatsoever - they can't even justify it with one of those bullshit "if you own a gun you are 5 times more likely to kill your spouse" fake metaphors...
Wife and kids are all proficient with pistol, rifle, and shotgun. We currently have 15,000 rounds stored within the city and at the final redoubt out of state.
Conceal/carry would be a great boost to freedom.
To 2/01/2009 02:58:00 AM
Baiting the Keesing Bandit?
Just one more reason to move away from the City of Chicago.
Daley is a liberal piece of shit!
The requirements should be simple. If you want to Conceal-Carry, you must: 1. Clear the backround check. 2. Pass a Law class that covers, among other things, legal responsibilities and consequences regarding carrying/using the weapon, along with Use-of-Force training. 3. Range instruction comperable to Police Officer training. 4. Liability insurance for any incidents involving the weapon for which the gun owner may be liable. Most people willing to go through the above should be responsible for safely carrying/handling a weapon.
"I think the idea of retired guys carrying guns is wrong. If one wishes to carry a concealed weapon, they should have some type of power test for it. Otherwise this guys weapon is ripe for the taking.
2/01/2009 08:10:00 AM"
Not funny.
If we could only get something like this going here...before it's too late...
United Kingdom & Commonwealth Gun Protest...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE
Anonymous said...
The state wants to ban all ammunition manufactured prior to 2008?! Where did you get that crazy accusation?
There's crazy and then there's crazy, and this makes no damn sense whatsoever.
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The reason is that, since all their attempts to ban guns have basically failed they are going to try going after ammo. They want "micro-engraving" of serial number's on the casing, and on the base of the bullet, if you can believe that shit. The problem with all this is that most of them are so ignorant of anything related to firearms that they A) think this is workable or B) know it's not but want to tie things up in knots if they can get such an inane law passed, knowing it is next to impossible to comply with. Estimates are that production of a cartridge would take 5 times as long and make ammo A LOT more expensive, and this would be just fine with them......BUT....the micro engraving on the (lead?) base of a 9mm hollowpoint is unlikely to survive what happens to that projectile when it makes it's way through some bonehead's bone head anyway.....did I mention that this is unworkable? :D
Shortshanks add-on mockey mouse ordinances would be Unconstitutional and never be able to hold ANY water in Court, if the rest of the State voted for Concealed Carry. All he really cares about anyway is the money from fines going to the City. That's why we have an astronomical violent crime rate, and the stooge block-voters keep voting this meat-head in, and their family members keep getting slaughtered and butchered.
Amazing how everybody's talking change and new ideas, except here in good Old Shit-cago.
Does that mean the Burger Queen Crump can carry at O'hare when attempting to fly outta Chicago??
"Otherwise this guys weapon is ripe for the taking.
2/01/2009 08:10:00 AM"
Do you think anyone who is a retired cop is going to anyone get that close?
You-young man- will eventually be old too- good help you if someone like you is in charge one day.
If illinoiscarry organizes another Second Amendment Freedom Rally downtown this summer, everyone should plan on attending. I was there last year and it was a great turnout. Men, women, cops - Suzanna Hupp spoke, as did a few others such as Peraica. Daley was out of town that day, conveniently. It got a few seconds of coverage on the 4:00 news, none on the nightly.
Hopefully it'll be bigger this year!
When it comes down to self-policing and "home" land security, the concealed carry is the answer.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I think the idea of retired guys carrying guns is wrong. If one wishes to carry a concealed weapon, they should have some type of power test for it. Otherwise this guys weapon is ripe for the taking.
2/01/2009 08:10:00 AM
Hey wait a minute. You have officers on the job right now who after taking the power test still could not manage to retain their weapons if a 64yo, retired after 36 years, diabetic, over-weight male, wanted to take their semi-autos from them.
They are on-duty/active pussy.
More power to the retired coppers who want to carry!!
Anonymous said...
How long till Daley realizes he can charge a huge fee to register handguns and charge even a bigger tax to purchase them if you live in Chicago, like gas, cigarettes, water, alcohol, etc...?
2/01/2009 12:59:00 PM
...and then, year afer year, raise the registration fee in order to employ gun-toting patronage workers to handle the paper trail.
"....Baiting the Keesing Bandit...."
No one can bait me. I am unbaitable, unless you are a master baiter.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Anonymous said...
To 2/01/2009 02:58:00 AM
Baiting the Keesing Bandit?
2/01/2009 04:21:00 PM
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Yeah, but he never bites. Which is a GOOD thing.
I cannot understand why the National FOP has backed Attorney General Eric Holder ("Nation of cowards"), the racist gun-grabber?
Eric Holder signed an amicus brief in the Heller case that supported the District of Columbia’s handgun ban.
Eric Holder argued that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right.
Eric Holder has supported national handgun licensing and mandatory trigger locks.
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