Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Common Sense Rejected

  • Mayor Daley is seething over a West Side legislator’s suggestion that children be educated about gun safety and gun use.

    State Rep. Annazette Collins (D-Chicago) said she believes that education is the key to gun safety, and said a hands-on approach is the key to taking away the mystery and allure of guns.

    “Downstate they teach you that guns are meant for hunting, for protection,” she said. “Here in the urban cities, all they see are guns on TV and they gun down people.”

    Opponents filled a town hall meeting Monday night in Garfield Park, and Mayor Daley is adding his voice to the outrage.

    “It’s the silliest position I’ve ever heard taken,” Daley said.
No, the silliest position is Illinois and Wisconsin being the last of the 50 states to legalize some form of concealed carry that has been proven time and time again to reduce violent crime.

But actually educating people, young people, as to basic safety principles regarding something that, despite all Shortshank's attempts to ban it, still manages to pop up with astonishing frequency. Notice how Daley twists the issue to his own anti-gun views:
  • Daley said putting guns in the hands of more children is the last thing the city of Chicago needs.

    [...] Daley said there is already too much gun violence on Chicago’s West Side, and said he believed Collins’ proposal would only fuel it.

    “If (she thinks) more guns on the West Side is going to help those people, she is greatly mistaken,” Daley said.
Collins, of course, didn't say she wanted to put guns in anyone's hands or even more guns in a City that already bans them. She isn't advocating teaching these kids marksmanship, arming them, and sending them out to kill. But being aware of when a gun is loaded (always), what it's capable of (holes in paper, walls, people), and what they should do when they see one (tell the police) isn't a bad idea.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

They really need to be educated, then taught how to work for a living.

Way back when, when welfare was known as ADC, it meant
Ay's daley's Cousin !!!!!

3/25/2009 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention, teaching kids that when you shoot a gun, it's permanent. You don't get more lives and a nifty musical tone. Dead means dead.

I once arrested a kid who was crying, begging his victim to 'get up, just get up'. The bullet hole had kind of sealed itself and there was no blood, just a kid laying in the living room. Bleeding to death internally.

I'm thinking maybe a little gun safety education isn't a bad thing. And a LOT of gun education might be a BETTER thing.

3/25/2009 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Firearms education is the key to gun control. Easier said than done because chicago has a problem with education.

Daley is afraid that an educated and informed citizenry is a threat to his patronage army.

3/25/2009 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conceiled carry scores one for the good guys!

3/25/2009 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But wait the mayor put guns into the 50 idiots hands without any qualifications? and look at idiot masters and the other non police carrying guns and "fake" exempt badges! daleys chicago= just a shithole of corruption!

3/25/2009 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of "common sense", this video is a MUST SEE!!!...

3/25/2009 03:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just gotta wonder when ShortShanks pulls his head out of his ass for some air. His position mirrors the Catholic Churches position on sex. JUST ABASTAIN! Don't teach the kids sex education in their schools, don't teach them about having protective sex, i.e. condom use. No, just teach them to bury their heads in the sand and ignore it. Hell, the Pope himself just visited Africa and told the people there not to use condoms to help stop the spread of aids. Maybe his holiness and hiz honor are related?
My GOD people! When are we going to wake up and VOTE this stuttering prick out of office? I see Fitzgerald as are only hope now.

3/25/2009 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mayor is right! There are sex ed classes and it doesn't help 'those people', why would gun safety help. . . . 'those people' what a classy guy da mayor be

3/25/2009 05:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean like ex-fbi agents writing tickets and carrying weapons?

3/25/2009 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you think gang bangers will stop killing each other because they had a gun education class?

how about some parenting classes for their mommas instead?

3/25/2009 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring in the ATF guy that shot off his big toe in front of a classroom full of kids.

3/25/2009 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NPR morning story on CPD finally getting some more m4's.

3/25/2009 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have just the program:

3/25/2009 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



3/25/2009 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Concealed Carry in Illinois is just a matter of time.
If they over turned it in the nation's capitol (DC) what makes you think it won't happen here, DALEY? Maybe before but he is loosing steam fast and the people have his number now.

3/25/2009 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Educate the children as much about firearms as they now are educated about sex.


3/25/2009 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous for real said...

The liberals get frightened and the thought of addressing gun safety issues, guns is a reality in many Chicago neighborhoods. The children have very good odds of finding a gun that was discarded by someone running from the police or someone hiding it to be avilable to them when needed (gangbangers). The liberals had no problem teaching 5 year olds about safe sex and homosexuals!

3/25/2009 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"those people" and he gets away with it, the revs would be havin' a hollerin' fest if anyone but a in their pocket dem. said it heaven help a repub. if they said it. Must be more "gallows humor"!!! the king and the president (without his teleprompter) think alike.

3/25/2009 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The N.R.A. has been advocating this for years, but the gun-grabbers will fight it tooth and nail.
The B.S.A. used to do this, I don't know if they still do.
I remember when I got my merit badge for marksmanship. We shot .22 rifles in the basement range at the La Grange P.D.
It was the single most awesome experience as a child that I can remember.
We were instructed properly in firearm safety, and learned it, or else no badge.
It's the little things that stick with a kid.

3/25/2009 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the problem isnt accidental discharge the problem is the youth using the guns to murder people.

3/25/2009 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the people down state learn about guns from their fathers.
that won't work in chicago.

3/25/2009 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both of my sons attended hunter safety classes (Outside of Chicago of course). During the class, the instructor lined up all the kids, handed them an empty pistol, and asked them to look at it and pass it on. They all did without hesitation. Then he set a mouse trap and handed it to them to look at and pass it. They all handled it with extreme care. When it got back to him, he placed his finger in the trap and snapped it. Then told the kids, this will only sting your finger and you handled it with extreme caution. Then in a stern voice he said, but none of you exercised that same caution when handling a gun, and if that goes off, it can kill you. Then he just stared at them. You could hear a pin drop. I was followed up later that day with a shotgun blast to a gallon of water, which ultimately disappeared. That was a lasting impression. My father is a retired CPD and I was taught at a young age about gun safety, as were my boys. I believe that if you teach children about gun safety at a young age, it can be a deterrent. Just my opinion. Sorry, but Daley is wrong on this one.

3/25/2009 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley/Shortshanks is a stuttering mumbling prick

3/25/2009 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

From the looks of it his holiness has a great grip on his city, with all those homicides, ( I won't mention the suspicious deaths), and his gun ban for how many years now. He's just the envy of every major city mayor...
Go Shortshanks, can't wait to scream 4 more years!
I’d rather scream atta boy Fitz! Nice Pinch!

3/25/2009 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical big government talk. Keep the people stupid, uninformed, and uneducated. Father govenment knows whats best for you and will take care of you as long as you keep voting to keep it in place. You, lowly citizens, are too stupid to decide whats best for you. ALL HAIL KING DALEY!! THE SUPREME FATHER FOR THE SHEEPLES REPUBLIC OF CHICAGO!!!!

3/25/2009 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mayor is a fucking retard!!!

God forbid commonsense hits Chicago!!

3/25/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't teach them anything. When they grow into predators, they're usually lousy marksmen.....lets keep it that way.

My kids shoot at the range on a regular basis. I want to keep their competitive edge.

3/25/2009 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

not a bad idea, kids should learn about guns.

3/25/2009 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for King Daley to be VOTED out of office!

3/25/2009 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I was is in grade school we had a Chicago Police Officer come and teach us about gun safety. There was a film (Reel to reel) and he was blunt and honest. Granted their were a lot of Police Officers kids there but everyone listened and I think it made an impact - I know it id for me. Also was shown a film showing the effects of drug abuse and this guy going through withdrawal - it was disgusting !!! But again made an impact. I am guessing there is no man power for this, no more Officer Friendly, but when I taught Jr High I was wishing they still had that program.

3/25/2009 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Ted said...

F*** Daley is an asshole!

3/25/2009 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic. there appears to be a new pilot program in Area 2 in which a midnight watch commander covers two districts. one district per night has no w/c. arrests are approved by the w/c of the neighboring district. this is a plan to save money according to one person above the rank of p.o. also, past couple of days 005 had no midnight desk sergeant--sergeant comes in from the street to handle desk duties. if this can work in Area 2, the other areas will follow.

3/25/2009 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“If (she thinks) more guns on the West Side is going to help those people, she is greatly mistaken,” Daley said.

Those people?
You people?
We the people?

Jesus Christ. God help this city. Oh well. When's my tax return going to hit my account? Where's that 55 / 75 / and out? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop? Maybe we can analyze that at the next CAR meeting...

3/25/2009 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about anger management kids in the GHETTO are so impulsive; grammar schools and high schools in the GHETTO have more students fighting inside and outside of schools at an alarming rate!

3/25/2009 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anyone that uses the Fitness Ctr at the Academy:

Beware of MRSA

The cleaning crew were scrubbing everything down while donning masks and two pairs of protective gloves last week.
The reason:
Apparently one of the POD watchers (they have been thrown out of OEMC and now have an office at the Academy) has MRSA.
So, if you plan on using the facilities at the Academy, bring your own cleaning supplies to wipe everything down before you workout.

3/25/2009 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow!!!!! someone with some friggin sense... daley needs to stop putting words into people mouth. but thats not the way game is played is mister baby pants

3/25/2009 09:21:00 PM  
Blogger Elm Creek Smith said...

Little Dick Shortshanks is an idiot, boys and girls.

When my children were 6 and 8 years of age, I took them to the range with a child-sized .22 rifle. The first thing I did was shoot two cantaloupes that were about the size of their heads. After we examined them and I explained that bullets don't care who or what they hit, my daughters knew that real guns weren't toys or video games. They both became pretty good shots and responsible firearms users.

At the time, their teachers were somewhat horrified when they reported back to their classes how they spent their "family" weekend.

My younger daughter, the unmarried one, has her own 9mm KelTec P11 for concealed carry.


3/25/2009 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...

The N.R.A. has been advocating this for years, but the gun-grabbers will fight it tooth and nail.
The B.S.A. used to do this, I don't know if they still do.
I remember when I got my merit badge for marksmanship. We shot .22 rifles in the basement range at the La Grange P.D.
It was the single most awesome experience as a child that I can remember.
We were instructed properly in firearm safety, and learned it, or else no badge.
It's the little things that stick with a kid."

Yes, B.S.A still offers Merit Badges for Rifle and Shotgun as well as archery.

3/25/2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Firearms education may be MORE practical than most of the readin, riding, and ridmatic they are now receiving. If they know basic firearms safety, it may save their lives.

3/25/2009 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are seeing a real push by the people in power to disarmed the citizen. Gun Violence, in which innocent people are killed, is the perfect vehicle to promote this to the public. Less Guns,is Sure to mean Less Killings. It's already very difficult to get ammunition.
The people in power are not quite ready to go after the 2nd amendment yet, but they soon will be.
They are In Power Now, and Will Soon Have Total Control.
Obama will soon have His Own Civilian Army.
We Are All In Big Trouble, And Its Too Late, Too Be Afraid.
PS; "Have A Nice Day" ???

3/25/2009 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what you try to teach them, they won't learn it. They view doing well in school as not cool or hip or thug like. It's cool to be a thug and dumb, so maybe someday they can grow up to be a rap star or gang leader. We could give them the best teachers and equipment in the world and they would just destroy or kill it. Being an urban thug is what's hip! If we did teach them gun safety they would ignore it and then go home and watch a rap video to see how to handle a gun.

3/25/2009 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shooting
One man was killed and another seriously wounded in a shootout inside a Miami Burger King on Tuesday, officials said.

Police said a man wearing a ski mask walked into the store at Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money from a clerk.

A customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, pulled a gun, said Officer Jeff Giordano, a Miami police spokesman.

The customer and robber exchanged fire.

The robber was shot dead at the scene.

The customer, who had several gunshot wounds, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in serious but stable condition, said Lt. Ignatius Carroll, a Miami Fire Rescue spokesman.

3/25/2009 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I've done the same with my kids. Except that they've been told that this isn't anyone's business but ours because we live here in Daleyland.

3/26/2009 04:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley should start his gun turn in by turning in his guns and the security details.

3/27/2009 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DALEY was a GANGBANGER when he too was young, thats why he tries to take guns out of law abiding gun owners hands. Kepp them under CONTROL!!!

3/28/2009 05:30:00 PM  

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