J-Fed to Remove Bodyguards
Since J-Fed has once again demonstrated his vast grasp of provincial law enforcement duties, we're looking forward to some changes:
Weis said he doesn't know how the armed guards are trained, since they are hired by a private firm. He also said many officers don't like issuing citations and might welcome a move that could free them of those duties.
"It's in the concept phase, we have to have a lot of discussions," Weis said. "Anything we can do in today's times that would put more officers on the street to address crimes of violence, is worth looking at."
This is in regard to the aldercratures attempting to farm out police duties. Police duties that are the subject of a labor agreement and are therefore subject to negotiation and arbitration, but hey, what's the value of a contract anymore since democrats just seem to want to void out agreements when they don't get the desired results? That's a discussion for another day.
But building on J-Fed's comment that "Anything we can do in today's times that would put more officers on the street to address crimes of violence, is worth looking at" we ask the following:
But building on J-Fed's comment that "Anything we can do in today's times that would put more officers on the street to address crimes of violence, is worth looking at" we ask the following:
- If private security guards are good enough for the citizens of the 9th and 10th wards in order to free up more officers for street crimes, wouldn't it make sense to reduce the mayoral bodyguard of twenty-one bodies (at sergeants pay) and the two-man cars assigned 24/7 at the mayor's house and replace them with security guards paid for from the campaign funds of the mayor?
- And how about Ed Burke's six man detail for an imaginary threat from how many years ago? Shouldn't his campaign funds of how many millions be utilized to pay for his own security rather than a highly trained officer who could be out chasing guns, gangs and drugs?
Eliminating those two details would almost staff an entire watch in most districts. And paying them D-1 instead of D-3 would save what Shortshanks pays J-Fed for a year.
Labels: city politics, department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
60 Comments:
This should be interesting ! More kickback loot going into Daley & Co.'s pocket. Lets see which Agency gets the contract !!!!!!!!!!
Are you kidding me those f**king clowns would have to go back to the Academy for street patrol re-training. Then immediately hit the medical when they see their payroll checks! WEISsel probably goes to the barber for a shave because he's to ashamed to look at himself in the mirror each day knowing that he signed a three year deal with the devil incarnate. Useless block headed hack!
it justifies Y. Delia's extra check, since she never got paid for SUING CPD officers in 008...Marq. Park Sec.....coding jobs..she did the same when she was ford city po=po--IAD listen up to Z6 - private security all over our aie waves...and why??
could be out chasing guns, gangs and drugs?
Which They don't want you to do anyway.
You forget about the detail to Michael Pflieger (SIC) and others in the catholic church. Lets get all these officers back on the streets working where they belong.
Why doesn't the mayor and ald burke utilize the $10 hour private security officers to be their body guards?
I heard that shanks will be freeing up dicks by using PI's for investigations.
FYI -
Now that the city has sold Midway airport, the company that now owns it wants the CPD to train it's private security officers! Apparently it is spelled out in the contract that the city signed with this company.
Hello ILTSB? Are you listeinig?
The city wants the Chicato Police Dept. to train a private security force. Won't this jeopardize the CPD's certification with Illinois Training and Standards Board?
Won't this open the city up to lwsuits when these "mall cops" injure someone?
Where's the liability?
Doesn't the state have written laws regarding training of part time security patrols?
Will they be certified like full time police officers?
Will they be armed?
This will never happen! Keep dreaming! Burke without bodyguards? He would pee in his panties! Do you know who I am? No Ed, who the fuck are you! A useless political hack! Even Dickie is afraid of him!
From a non p.o., he wants to place armed security guards on the streets and the private citizens can't even keep a gun in the house legally? Please help me understand.
Let these politicians pay for their own security if they are so fearful for their safety. We citizens are easy pickings for the predators out there like the thugs who have been robbing people on the CTA el trains during daylight hours.
Great point. They should be paying for armed private guards to protect them. There is such a shortage of officers, but the "body detail" back out to the district (or some other cush job). Both should be paying for their protection with their own campaign money. Still wonder why Burke needs bodyguards to be begin with.
Why doesn't the mayor and ald burke utilize the $10 hour private security officers to be their body guards?
3/22/2009 03:53:00 AM
Why? because he is the mayor for nearly two decades and has run this city to the ground.
Why? because the mayor doesn't want law abiding citizens to own a weapon to protect themselves as the constitution dictates, but advocates armed police officers to protect him and his family memebers.
Of course Jfed loves private contract security what do you think he is. In our life time we will see the complete privatization of police and fire. But I say this the the ITS OVER CROWD. Lesser groups have fought much greater enemies and won.
Ill bet these private security guards will love writing the REAL POLICE tickets. If you fuck with one you can bet your ass you're gonna be looking at time.
Last night, shots fired at the 41T71B of area 1 gun team. Offender in custody. Everyone safe. Great job by all those involved. Be careful out there.
Secondly, great job by the under-staffed 8th district midnight cars last night. In a backlog ALL night. 3 downed cars and one was 99. Still, the backlog was knocked out. A lot of shots fired calls from 45th and sawyer, weapon recovered, offender in custody.
It was about 40 degrees last night and yet 008 had jobs lined up all night? What's going to happen when it hits 70,80,90? The same, except the citizens will now have to wait god knows how long until they get a response. Your garage was burglarized? Sorry citizen, you can wait 6 hours for the CPD to show up. You got the crap kicked out of you and want a report? Your wounds may heal before you see a car.
What does the mayor or the folks at HQ care? They're not the ones who have to explain to a pissed off citizen that their problem was minor in the general order of things, therefore you should be happy it only took 6 hours to get here. We have to take the abuse and after a long shift on midnights, it's not exactly easy to listen too. Yet, we can put together another MSF team that pulls P/O's out of short-changed districts, another team that doesn't answer calls, thereby screwing the public more and causing nore grief to the beat cops who have to listen to complaints about how long it took to show up. The department is destroying, if it hasn't already destroyed, the backbone of the department. Security guards to write tickets so we can handle other more pressing needs? No one has time to write a ticket anyway once it gets warm anyway.Plain and simple, HIRE POLICE.
Anyway, through all of these issues, backlogs in 007 and 008 got knocked out. Great job by 008 last night. Everything from the shooting to disturbances handled. Proud to share the zone with you guys and gals. Stay safe
SCC, you have your facts somewhat wrong concerning Daley’s bodyguard detail. There are 26 P/O’s on that detail, 24 P/O’s are making Sgt’s pay and 2 are making commanders pay. The two making commanders pay also have take home cars and all the other perks commanders get. All the so-called officers have city issued blackberries so “they can be reached at any time”. Daley also has 13 vehicles in his little fleet of cars parked inside the details location on Normal. Daley has his Lincoln, Maggie has a van and there are numerous other vehicles to chauffeur the kids and grand kids around when they need a ride somewhere, all driven by these so-called officers and its all paid for by the taxpayers. It is also my understanding that these so-called officers get 2 or 3 thousand a year in uniform allowance so they can dress the part.
Other then that you’re doing an outstanding job, keep up the good work!
3/22/2009 01:02:00 AM
If you want know the answer to this question go talk to the Commander who authorized the use of Z#6 radios.
As far as suing other coppers this never happened. Get the Case file number and show it. It does not exist. Go F U self.
Tell me again, Why does Ald. Burke need a body guard detail?
Why doesn't the mayor and ald burke utilize the $10 hour private security officers to be their body guards?
3/22/2009 03:53:00 AM
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Their excuse is they've been threatened. Well, we don't assign a security team to every domestic violence victim who's been threatened and to be honest, a dv victim is more likely to be battered or killed by the person who threatens them.
Private security for the aldermen and the reverends. Private traffic control for those churches. AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE, not ours.
to: 3/22/2009 01:02:00 AM
I never coded out any job while working Marquette Park security. Get the tapes and listen to them.
I never sued any P.O.s check the public records and prove me wrong.
I have a suspicion who you are, at least I work at my job you only have a job.
If you know everything about me. man-up and post your name. You hide behind a computer screen, come out from behind the screen and face me.
Several of you explained it for me when I raised the question "what kind of cops would be on humpty dumptys security detail?" I thank you, I get it and its understood. Its the money and frankly, any of us who hold a job have duties that stink but we do it for the money.
Now I don't need to ask the question why would anybody wants to be on J's detail. My question is why does he have a security detail? The wife thinks its to protect him from you guys but I don't think thats the answer.
If the city can't afford to hire cops how in the f*&^ can it afford to hire security guards for any ward in any capacity. What happened to the magic freeze. Also last I checked you kind of have to be certified in Illinois as a law enforcement officer to have law endforcement duties. Hours of firearms, state tests, etc. So if you work in districts with those guys I wouldn't get into any s$%t with them because the only one of you able to be sued despite the good samaritan act is you. Wherever they are you patrol another area.
Are you kidding me those f**king clowns would have to go back to the Academy for street patrol re-training. Then immediately hit the medical when they see their payroll checks!
LOL...that was funny and good!
coppers that live in 10 th ward need to call Ald Pope and tell him to go fuck himself he'll listen if he knows enough votes are invoved,and if u want to free up cars take them off the high schools like crane, tilden, kelly.etc
Don't forget the traesures huge detail! HEY MEDIA TALK TO CITY CLERK DELVALLE HE REFUSED BODYGUARDS LASKI HAD 6 AND THE NEW GUY HAS 0! HE STATED "I CAN DRIVE MYSELF I DO NOT NEED VALETS" GET HIS QUOTES! WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY AND NOW BURKES AND DALEYS BODYGUARDS WITH THE 18k MORE THAN PATROLMEN ARE WORKING SPECIAL NOT ENOUGH FOR THE GREEDY?
Sure this will happen.....when pigs fly.
WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!
nobody likes to direct traffic and now we have TMA's and the public is less safe downtown.
if the police role is further limited we will need fewer police.
when the layoffs come, let it be those who can't be bothered with tickets and traffic direction.
JUST READ THE SLUM-TIMES, WHO IS RETIRED P/O NEIL SULLIVAN. HE WAS PAID $19,500 TO LEAD ELECTION NIGHT LOGISTICS! IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE JOB NOW, QUALIFIED FOR THIS TASK? NOTHING AGAINST NEIL, MORE POWER TO HIM. JUST SEEN THE IRISH SURNAME AND THOUGHT ABOUT CLOUT? I AIN'T SAYIN I'M JUST ASKIN ....
THEE IRISH JIG
Let's reinstate the fourteen year old for street patrol. What about CR's for the Security Guards. There goes those Shoplifting signs saying you can get a ride in a police car. Maybe Huberman could also deputize some of his school students.
Don't you idiots realize that the new security team would have to have extensive training on how to carry luggage & golf bags for Burke?!!
Agreed.....Enough is enough.
Hey! Who owns these security companies and who do they know? Huh? Whose pockets will be getting filled?
Burke get body guards and he gets an unmarked squad car. How about eliminating all of the above. I'm sure another threat will be reported when the detail is about to be taken away. A waste of city resources. Why can't PO's who have been threatened have security for themselves and their family?
You forget about the detail to Michael Pflieger (SIC) and others in the catholic church. Lets get all these officers back on the streets working where they belong
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There is no detail to Pfleger or others in Catholic Church.
Don't you dare code my job!
No hiring standards, No unions to deal with. No Shakman, just another way to circumvent the union and give out contracts to connected firms with no oversight.
This is in regard to the aldercratures attempting to farm out police duties. Police duties that are the subject of a labor agreement and are therefore subject to negotiation and arbitration, but hey, what's the value of a contract anymore since democrats just seem to want to void out agreements when they don't get the desired results? That's a discussion for another day.
Hey SCC, there you go again with your one sided Democrats/liberal bashing. Don't you have a critical mind of your own to think on? It was none other than John McCain on the campaign trail who also wanted to modify mortgages; even if they were owned by a third party because in his view it was a national security concern.
I have family members who are 110% pro-Democrats and 110% pro-Republicans. Anyone who thinks that way is obviously not using their God given ability TO THINK.
Oh, and in case you are wondering who I supported in the last election cycle, it is Ron Paul. He is the only guy who makes sense and doesn't toe the party line.
Any one from the Tribune or Times reading this? How about covering this story?
Ain't gonna happen, these cops are heavy political hacks. They love these cush jobs.
You've got to be shittin' me. Father FlogHisLog has a CPD bodyguard? This guy is a piece of shit. Want to get rid of the detail? Assign a white P.O. to him.
How many of these security guards were denied employment by CPD? Failed the psyc or have problems with their backgrounds? Now they carry firearms and will seek powers granted by the very City that refused to hire them. Who will be liable for their actions? I doubt that the security company (friend of alderman) will be held accountable. Also, if the city is too broke to hire police where do we get the money to pay the private security company (we are giving them lots more than the basic guards’ hourly wage)?
Why don't we hear about father Clemons any more? After all a movie was made about him, and Pfleger was his #2. Problem with his reputation?
"You forget about the detail to Michael Pflieger (SIC) and others in the catholic church. Lets get all these officers back on the streets working where they belong."
Snuffy Pfleiger has a police escort everywhere he goes? Are you kidding me?
How many of these security guards were denied employment by CPD? Failed the psyc or have problems with their backgrounds? Now they carry firearms and will seek powers granted by the very City that refused to hire them. Who will be liable for their actions? I doubt that the security company (friend of alderman) will be held accountable. Also, if the city is too broke to hire police where do we get the money to pay the private security company (we are giving them lots more than the basic guards’ hourly wage)?
3/22/2009 04:53:00 PM
Lovey and Lovey will love this a double wammy sue city and the security guard company.
am i wrong? according to the media this private security is owned by an aldercreature?
I simple reason comes to mind as to why Daley and the alderscum won't have them protect them and there families: for $10.00-to $15.00 an hr,they will not take a bullet for either of them or there scummie assed families,hell even in today's dire economy they won't take a bullet for them,they will not do it for less than $15.99 an hr.,Damned moron's.The $.99 is for the dollar menue at McDonald's!!!!
14 years til retirement. 5110 days. 40,880 working hours. As I watch Daley run this city into the ground, I can only hope that on that 5111th day as I watch the city shrink in my rearview mirror, that the potholes have been filled on my route by then so as not to fuck up my U-haul.
Talking about "spots". Why is 019th district Commander hiding a Lt. on days. I hear his job is to count lockers. Wait, don't the districts have an administrative staff to count lockers He's not CAPS because there is already a CAPS Lt. We're not short Lts., we got one counting lockers. One, two, three.......... for 5, I mean 8 hours a day!
You forget about the detail to Michael Pflieger (SIC) and others in the catholic church. Lets get all these officers back on the streets working where they belong
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There is no detail to Pfleger or others in Catholic Church.
3/22/2009 03:38:00 PM
Pfleger has two guards (CPD) as well as Cardinal George (CPD) all working out of unit 543
King Burke will have no clothes soon!The silverhaired old fox has been carried around for years for free and hopefully it will end soon! Does anyone have the stones to do it? Jody? Jody?
As far as suing other coppers this never happened. Get the Case file number and show it. It does not exist. Go F U self.
I REMEMBER IT HAPPENING...
Let these politicians pay for their own security if they are so fearful for their safety.
--Politicians & Reverends should be paying for their own security. This includes the 906 car that drives around the 9th district checking on Alderman's homes, ward offices, Streets & San commissioner, Fire Commissioner, John Daley etc.
Reverends want cars stationed outside of their churches for hours at a time to babysit.
These folks are no different than any other tax paying citizen and don't deserve anything more than the taxpayers. Stop wasting manpower for the chosen ones! Get a private security firm to do the jobs that ARE NOT police matters!
Less than a year ago the Burke issue was brought up by the media... It was going to be checked into. Of course there's no follow up on the story. Great Job Media!
Tell the commander in 010 that day cars should ride 99 and third & 1st watch cars should b 10-4 if they r even up. What a big goof Guess he gotz to take care of all the phone call kids on days. He doesnt have a clue.
j fed would never question king eddie with 2 guys at all times! hey boss why not 1 driver if any and eddie could ride in the front seat? i am sure they would install little eddies reading light in the front seat for the master!
Anonymous said...
FYI -
Now that the city has sold Midway airport, the company that now owns it wants the CPD to train it's private security officers! Apparently it is spelled out in the contract that the city signed with this company.
Hello ILTSB? Are you listeinig?
The city wants the Chicato Police Dept. to train a private security force. Won't this jeopardize the CPD's certification with Illinois Training and Standards Board?
Won't this open the city up to lwsuits when these "mall cops" injure someone?
Where's the liability?
Doesn't the state have written laws regarding training of part time security patrols?
Will they be certified like full time police officers?
Will they be armed?
3/22/2009 07:33:00 AM
Even better when will ellyn be gone? could someone in cpd train her? the worst thing to happen to the airport in my 30+ years on the job! Anyone need a lt? she has nothing to do at the airport and works 4 hours a day!
The city wants the Chicato Police Dept. to train a private security force. Won't this jeopardize the CPD's certification with Illinois Training and Standards Board?
I don't see how. The two are unrelated.
Won't this open the city up to lwsuits when these "mall cops" injure someone?Where's the liability?
No more liability to CPD for training them than to the regular trainers if they were trained by the people who normally train security guards.
Doesn't the state have written laws regarding training of part time security patrols?
There are laws requiring unarmed security guards have 20 hours of training, and armed guards an additional 20 hours. The exact training is covered by administrative rule.
Will they be certified like full time police officers?
They will be certified as security guards. Its possible some might be made special or auxiliary police. That can be done under state law if regular police officers are there to supervise them.
Will they be armed?
Who knows? Is working at Midway airport especially dangerous?
"The city wants the Chicato Police Dept. to train a private security force. Won't this jeopardize the CPD's certification with Illinois Training and Standards Board?
I don't see how. The two are unrelated."
Gee, privately employed citizens doing sworn peace officers' duties, and you consider this to be 'unrelated'?
"Won't this open the city up to lwsuits when these "mall cops" injure someone?Where's the liability?
No more liability to CPD for training them than to the regular trainers if they were trained by the people who normally train security guards."
You seem fixated on the word 'train'. Freudian slip?
"Will they be armed?
Who knows? Is working at Midway airport especially dangerous?
3/25/2009 02:34:00 PM"
Wonderful post that avoids addressing the actual relevant issues.
As for "Who knows?", well: 'The Shadow Knows.....' (what evil lurks within the hearts of men).
What a bunch of fucking cry babies. Are you just stupid or just jelous? Like any of you would pass up Sgt. pay plus big OT checks just to drive around some jerk who thinks He's important. It's just about the money dumb fuck. None of the guys on these details really cares about who is in the back seat. Get over it.
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