Re-Opening an Investigation
We've all heard that the "numbers game" is real, is bullshit, is reality, is fantasy. We certainly hope that it's BS. But way too much of this Department is numbers driven and not really "results oriented." Our 40% and dropping clearance rate is proof of that.
The Fox News piece only lends credence to the conspiracy side of the argument, especially when Fox has an Exempt Supervisor admitting the base has been reopened.
The Fox News piece only lends credence to the conspiracy side of the argument, especially when Fox has an Exempt Supervisor admitting the base has been reopened.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
24 Comments:
The numbers game played every day by the brass is a COMPLETE JOKE! It's hillarious to hear coppers and Sgt.'s getting event numbers all day for silly missions and stuff that we never really even do. They just want the numbers so they can put them on some tally sheet and send it to 35th Street just to please the brainless fools that run this department. The numbers game is a huge morale killer and not real police work.
Mission after mission after misson every fuck'n day. How about doing a "just be the police mission!" My favorite is the POD mission done several times a day where the desk just puts a POD on the comp. screen and no one watches it. After a while they call the mission over and send the results to the WC who then sends it to 35th St. What an embarrassment we have become. All this numbers shit just proves that we are just stat makers and not really the police anymore. The missions and event numbers don't catch real crime. I miss the days when we were treated like professional adults and just went out and policed!
All enforcement activity was based on city revenue, as is all police enforcement activity. Parking Tickets = Income. Moving Violations = income.
If you bring in 100 movers for State Violations, chances are great that the checkoff Sergeant will want to know why you didn't use City of Chicago Violations.
Tickets = $$$$$$$$$$$
No Tickets = Daley is screwed !!!!!
Want to issue traffic violations ? Please use State of Illinois Charges !!!!!!! Daley gets nothing.
FOP is putting together a protest at city hall. Buses leaving from the areas around 0900. Lets all go and support this long awaited protest. Pass it on.
I work on a Tact team. All the Tact Lt. wants is numbers. Heads, contacts, event numbers, etc. The way I see it is: Someone make this guy a Tact Lt. so he can get a chance to show a D/C that he can make his guys produce. Now he hopes to make Capt. based on these B.S. numbers so he can retire as a Capt. The reason I say this is because my Lt. is going to retire in a few years and he is numbers crazy.
I knew someone from the OPS. They used to get our old evaluations...But theirs were 14 pages long and most of it was : How many allegations did the investigator sustain the allegation?" That was 20% of their evealuation.
Now the nes thing for OPS is to automaticallt get an allegation for failure to report against the officer's pertner and anyone else at the scene. You're not sure what exactly you failed to report, but tthe allegation is you failed tpo report misocduct to a supervisoer..This is based on the alleged allegation....Kind of putting the cart before the horse, but that's this crooked fucking city for ya...
As a courtesy I would notify the watch commander
WGN reported that 70,000 parking meters needed repair since they were privatized. They showed a whole block on the Northside that had the meters spray painted over, the vandalism is just beginning.
I don't know anybody on the CPD who hasn't been told to change a case report so that it would lower an index crime (burglary, robbery, agg batt). I have never been told to cover up a homicide. That being said the dicks have the final say on a case like the one in the Fox Report. I'm not a dick.
Wow only in the Kingdom of Daley that this incident is classified as a suicide. A GSW not associated with a suicide, no gun powder residue on the kids hands, and the big one NO FUCKING GUN!!!!! Yet it is a suicide. While believe the kid was a gang banger his family still deserves the truth and some sort of justice. I hopethe family doesnt act like the minorities Daley hope they are and keep the pressure and embarassment he deserves!
This is only thetip of the iceberg. Eddie Welch the turd in an attempt to raise the clearance rate in Area 2 has changed the rules for what is a cleared case. No more are cases suspended in area 2 we close everything. yeah the clearance rate is going way up but nothing is getting solved. It's all smoke and mirrors to try and hide the fact we are severly short handed and "the turds" managment has made things worse.
This has been going on for years. It is the only way to keep the murders down. I almost feel sorry for the dick that will be hung out to dry on this. But he is probably just a clout hack doing what he was told.
Oh my God, I think I almost vomited in my mouth when I heard Al Wysinger say the department handles every investigation the same without any bias... LOL !!!
Did we handle the murder of the federal judge's family with equal resources? Did we handle the Dr. Cornbleet murder on Michigan ave. with equal resources? Christ, how about the Lee Miglin murder in 1997 when Andrew Cunanan went on his little killing spree?
If ANYONE thinks the dept. gives a rats a$$ about these gang murders they are crazy. The dets. process the scene and the story is logged for eternity into a blue folder that ends up in a basement file cabinet unless someone comes forward.
Area 4 homicide
I am a detective and have never been told to Clear Close a case for statistical purposes. I have been asked to re-investigate cases to see if any other leads have developed and sometimes new leads have, but mostly they did not and the case remand suspended. If the family learned something they should have shared it with the detectives or their supervisors. They hired a private detective who also could have come to the detectives with his findings.
Capt. T.L in 023 leads the city in this bullshit. This putz probably 6-7 missions per day on the 3rd watch. And his greatest results? Parking tickets. This guy needs to be sent back to an admin job where he play with papers and computers.
Anonymous said...
This has been going on for years. It is the only way to keep the murders down. I almost feel sorry for the dick that will be hung out to dry on this. But he is probably just a clout hack doing what he was told.
3/26/2009 08:55:00 AM
he does what eddie the jagoff tells him/her to do and they will reopen more investigations! maybe a fed take over would be ebetter! Not j-fed no clue style,beholden to mayor criminal!
The report was complete BS. No cover up. Just sesationalised reporting. Only detectives get the whole story and sorry but the fact is these things are on a need to know basis. Stay safe out there.
I really hope the people leaving the comments are civilians or supervisors, because you don't know shit. Shame on you for believing a news report.
More importantly where did that gun come from pictured in the video with victim? Right?
THE NUMBERS ARE BEING CHANGED ON OTHER INCIDENTS NOT JUST HOMICIDES. AGG BATT'S AGAINST THE POLICE HAVE INCREASED TWO FOLD, BUT ASA'S AND SUPERVISOR'S ARE RELUCTENT TO PROCEED WITH CHARGES FOR FEAR THAT THE NUMBERS WILL RISE AND THE DEPT WILL LOK BAD. THERE IS ALSO THE FACT THAT TRR'S MUST BE COMPLETED. I WAS ON SCENE WHERE AN OFFENDER ATTEMPTED TO DISARM AN OFFICER. THE SUPERVISER ASKED THE OFFICER TO REMOVE ANY AND ALL REFERENCE TO AN ATTEMPT DISARMAMENT FROM HIS REPORT'S AND HIS TRR. NOW THERE WERE SEVERAL WITNESSES ON SCENE WITH CAMERA'S, BUT HE WAS TOLD TO OMIT KEY INFORMATION. WE HAVE BECOME PAWNS FOR THE DEPT AND SLAP TOY'S FOR THE PUBLIC WITH THE POTENTIAL OF BECOME GHETTO LOTTERY WINNERS. SORRY FOR THE RANT. OFFICER'S STAY SAFE AND REMEMBER NOT ALL WHITE SHIRT'S HAVE YOUR BACK. NEW SHIRT MEANS NEW AGENDA! NEW RANK MEANS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA.
Hey no different then the murder covered up by Area5 back in '98. Yeah we all know an off duty cop shot and killed a kid on Madison in 015 then went and had another couple cocktails then went home and went to bed.Shot the kid in the back of the head and the off duty cops friend shot the kid in the back of the leg. At the time A/5 Deputy Chief, A/4 Deputy Chief and of course the best Fat Phil who was Chief of Dics. replaced the midnight dics and brought in a couple of clout baby day time dics and covered up the murder. Yeah it's all legit. Hey don't worry SCC you can post this cause everybody knows about it including the FBI, the great US Attorney Fitzgerald, A/4 Dep is dead, A/5 Dep is retired drunk wearing diapers, the Fat Man is stealing money from the Memorial and the murdering copper is still working on the west side last time anybody checked. So Fox News wake up cause the CPD doesn't care about who gets killed or how they got killed unless it happens to be somebody of importance. Hey Fox News the dead kids family got a settlement from the City because the autopsy revealed two different bullet wounds in two different calibers something the A/5 "experts" neglected to put in their report. So tell this kids family to sue cause the Dept doesn't care for the truth and they can at least make some money out of this miscarriage of justice.Nobody has the balls to do anything about this kind of stuff and yes Fox News the CPD has and does cover up homicides. Speaking of balls will SCC print this?
HE NUMBERS ARE BEING CHANGED ON OTHER INCIDENTS NOT JUST HOMICIDES. AGG BATT'S AGAINST THE POLICE HAVE INCREASED TWO FOLD, BUT ASA'S AND SUPERVISOR'S ARE RELUCTENT TO PROCEED WITH CHARGES FOR FEAR THAT THE NUMBERS WILL RISE AND THE DEPT WILL LOK BAD. THERE IS ALSO THE FACT THAT TRR'S MUST BE COMPLETED. I WAS ON SCENE WHERE AN OFFENDER ATTEMPTED TO DISARM AN OFFICER. THE SUPERVISER ASKED THE OFFICER TO REMOVE ANY AND ALL REFERENCE TO AN ATTEMPT DISARMAMENT FROM HIS REPORT'S AND HIS TRR. NOW THERE WERE SEVERAL WITNESSES ON SCENE WITH CAMERA'S, BUT HE WAS TOLD TO OMIT KEY INFORMATION. WE HAVE BECOME PAWNS FOR THE DEPT AND SLAP TOY'S FOR THE PUBLIC WITH THE POTENTIAL OF BECOME GHETTO LOTTERY WINNERS. SORRY FOR THE RANT. OFFICER'S STAY SAFE AND REMEMBER NOT ALL WHITE SHIRT'S HAVE YOUR BACK. NEW SHIRT MEANS NEW AGENDA! NEW RANK MEANS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA.
--And why the F* would somebody falsify a report for a boss???
Oh my God, I think I almost vomited in my mouth when I heard Al Wysinger say the department handles every investigation the same without any bias... LOL !!!
Every investigation?
How about when Phat Cline's Phat son at HIDTA fell asleep on the EL and the savages took his cell phone, wallet and money? They were able to "ping" his phone and catch the offenders. Now in order to "ping" someone's phone you need a court order right? Did that happen for Phat Phil's kid, NOPE.
Just did what they needed to do to get the phone back. Now, do all citizens in Chicago - that get robbed - get the same police service or are they just given a police report and a simple "have a nice day"?
Every investigation?
How about when Phat Cline's Phat son at HIDTA fell asleep on the EL and the savages took his cell phone, wallet and money? They were able to "ping" his phone and catch the offenders. Now in order to "ping" someone's phone you need a court order right? Did that happen for Phat Phil's kid, NOPE.
Just did what they needed to do to get the phone back. Now, do all citizens in Chicago - that get robbed - get the same police service or are they just given a police report and a simple "have a nice day"?
You don't need a court order to ping your own phone dumb dumb...
"I work on a Tact team. All the Tact Lt. wants is numbers. Heads, contacts, event numbers, etc".
No shit? Wow, thanks for the flash, this is something new, a Tact team is supposed to get numbers? Get some time on the job junior and get your ass back on the watch.
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