About Time
There ought to be plenty of parking on the south and west sides once this passes:
Motorists who get pulled over in Chicago with a suspended or revoked driver’s license soon could see their cars impounded under a proposal approved today by a City Council committee.
They also would face a fine of $500 plus towing and storage fees.
The proposal could be approved by the full council as soon as the next meeting on April 22.
Ald. Thomas Allen (38th) said he proposed the ordinance after a police officer told him that cops could not impound a vehicle even if the driver was found to be driving without a valid license. He said his motivation was to make Chicago’s streets safer.
And of course, the standard resistance arises:
Only Ald. Howard Brookins (21st) voted against the measure at today’s joint session of the council Traffic and Police Committees.
“I think it’s too harsh,” Brookins. “$500 is a heckuva price to pay.”
We have to pay for functional wheels, maintain the engine in accordance with clean air laws, carry insurance, buy annual stickers, and be in full compliance lest we get suspended from work. But Brookins thinks that's too harsh? If he wants to suspend the rule of law, he can propose to do so, but until that time, obey the freaking law!
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
49 Comments:
It's all about the money!
They want this for their private/revenue police and I have a question. Would that include never have had a license to begin with? Can I get those notices in Spanglish?
THERE WOULD BE NO CARS IN THE 006 DISTRICT!
I thought we already did keep the cars already
Listening to Brooking and knowing he wanted to be the CC States Atty makes me shudder!
the problem is all the insurance companies who sell insurance to people who have no license or business being in our country. magnum, eagle, ill vehicle, insure one, etc... knowingly insure drivers who have no valid driver's license or who are her illegally. the other problem is the state of illinois who sells plates to anyone-- you have the 78 dollars in your hand-- bingo, you get plates for your car even though you have no driver's license and are probably here illegally.
Torn between justice, and justice
Aint' gonna pass, too many dumbocratcs wit' suspended licenses that will pitch a bitch. And you don't wanna piss off the future voters, the illegal aliens either.
They should add no valid DL to the ordanance.
They should also go after the dealers and secretary of state. You shouldn't be able to buy a car without a license. I say for every 1 person I stop with a license and insurance, the next 8 don't have one or both. I've often said that movers would skyrocket if they put a traffic court on the north and the south sides. That would be revenue.
Are they going to have to start paying the meters in 011 now too?
In the area of West Town(Grand Avenue west of Damen), we've seen several accidents were everyone flees on foot as soon as the cars stop. Cops find the abandoned cars, likely without valid tags and the missing drivers likely missing both driver's license and insurance card. We suspect most don't have residency card or visa either. It's time Chicago stops operating under a three tier system:
1) Rules for the Clouted Ones
2) Rules for Law-abiding Citizens
3) Rules for non-law-abididing, and related protective measures to continue to shield and protect those who deliberately flout laws.
Any driver without driver's license, legal plate and sticker, and valid insurance card should have car impounded until those items are presented. Great revenue source for Chicago budget! No penalty to law-abiding citizens!
The State should launch an investigation and penalize car dealership that sells vehicle to those who doesn't have a valid Driver's License and couldn't show proof of insurance before they purchase the car.
We all know that if they approve this law, one particular District that is currently traffic congested and Gang infested area would be a freaking ghost town because 70% of them would not be able to pass the Driver's License requirements due to lack of proof of US citizenship, no social security, and could not speak, read,and write English..
I am for it because I would then get more impound court time. I need the pay for my babies school since I have to pay for private school. Oh well, they shouldn't be driving anyway.
Wow! I might actually start to pull dummies over again. Once, I am happy with the results in my settled contract, that is.
I can't see how King Rich would turn this one down, he gets the money from the fines and penaltys or he gets to have his friends sell the cars! It is a win win for him. Plus all of the old junks would be off the streets so he can cut down on city employees that have to clean up the vacant lots. Dam Rich, you need to jump on this, you and your friends can make a few million and this one actually might make the streets a bit safer.
I work nights and have a 1300 hr traffic court time. Thats why I don't write movers unless I have to. It takes me about 3 hrs round trip and I spend about 5 min in court. They can take their 3.5 hrs and stick it. I'd rather have that time for sleep or my family. Put traffic court at the areas and I'll write tickets all day. Plus I'd have a place to park my car so I wouldn't have to depend on public trans. Same thing w/domestic court what a fucking joke. NO where to park and the victim and the offender never show up at least the mutts on the west side don't. Asspimples running the show and have no idea how to do shit.
Just be careful, boys and girls, because we will be the test cases, as usual.
I have a friend whose wife repeatedly forgets to pay important bills and take care of the household business (she stays home; it's their arangement). Nice lady, but clueless.
She's let the emissions test go past the last date, more than once, on the car registered to him. He was lucky; he found out his license was suspended for emissions before the inspectors did.
Double-check everything. EVERYTHING! Make sure you don't become Weis' scapegoat.
Um yeah let me get this straight its too harsh to impound someones ride if they are driving suspended or revoked but yet its not to harsh to take their car for having their music too loud.
Of Course Alderman Brookins voted against it. His constituents wouldnt' be able to drive. You cant throw a rock without hitting a driver on the west side who isn't suspended or revoked.They might as well make it $20,000. They aren't going to pay the $500 anyway. Just move on to the next car.
Should cause alot more car chases that will be immediatly terminated.
About time ?
So now you want us to produce city revenue ?? make up your mind !!!
cta ridership will go up 800%
Well it would be nice if the state actually sent out notifications when your license gets suspended.
Miss an emissions test, and the state will suspend your license, and you'll never know about it, until you get pulled over, or go to renew your license.
"They should add no valid DL to the ordanance."
4/16/2009 06:39:00 AM
Probably can't legally do that. Driving on a Suspended/Revoked license is a jailable offense. (like that will ever happen) while driving with no D/L is a petty offense (fine only).
Are you guys crazy??? You want the city or any Government for that matter to be able to just take peoples property??? I;ve known loads of Coppers who have had their D/L suspended for emissions on some car they didn't own anymore. This could happen to anyone. There's other ways to make ends met in this city without stealing for the mass's.
in the 007th district thats like uh um 9 out of 10 cars pulled over. detail the traffic unit to 007 for 1 month. tell them zero tolerance on drivers with a revoked or suspended drivers license. let them know they give use police descrection on motorists who actually have a DL. I'll bet they impound over 2,000 cars in 1 months time. you want money generated for the city. their you go! use my idea and run with you white shirt decision makers on the top.
I think it's a great idea ... There would be a 90 % reduction in cars in 015, 011, 007, 010, 006, 005, 003, 025, half of 009, half of 008, half of 022, one quarter of 004, the mopes that want their cars back would pay the fine,(revenues go up), the rest would have to take public transportation (revenues go up), less emissions, no more having to worrying about global warming.
The city could make lots of money on this initiative! I think we may have found a person that could possibly be a contender for Mayor= Tom Allen!
And can someone see what it takes to get term limits for Chicago Mayor to be placed on the ballot ?? Why does NYC have term limits? Has to be a way of introducing the measure for a vote by tax payers/voters.
WHat is it with these aldercreatures?
Someone check Brookins DL status he don't wants it cus he propaly puspended
Brookens is a moron,you want to drive on a susp/rev DL?fuck you pay up asshole,hook m and book m,I hope it passes,hit these motherfuckers where it hurts,if Crookens got hit by a dude with a revoked dl he would run up to the po who got the job and say arrest him and then explain why he doesn't have insurance,fuck m
I say for every 1 person I stop with a license and insurance, the next 8 don't have one or both.
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Are you fuckin shitting me? WTF?! Why is it that these laws written to protect the law-abiding do nothing? Fucking arrest these assholes already! Put them in the slammer and keep them away from taxpayers who are already pissed about paying untold thousands in insurance (half of which is under/uninsured motorist coverage), and almost $100 for plates, PLUS a bullshit city vehicle sticker. Make these mutts pay, or give us a break.
Go ahead and impound their cars!
and why are there so few red light cameras in the ghetto??
I pass at least 5 on my way to work on the NW side .... and I work close to home ....
maybe there are no "safety" issues in the ghetto ...
Brooking just wants to protect his constituents who've never had a license, plates, sticker, insurance, etc.
It's a fact of life in some neighborhoods. Why start penalizing them now ? Shortshanks is happy to have them vote the way they are told. Daley is happy to keep screwing the working/earning classes with tax, tax, fines, etc.
Back when Richard J. Daley was mayor folks on ADC said they got checks every month because "Ah's Daley's Cousin".
Generations later, "same old shit".
I work in a city that stays busy,that has a towing or rather seizure ordinance for drivers who are no valid, suspended, revoked or do not have insurance. Although its nice to get these cars and drivers off the street, I'll warn you that as soon as Daley sees how much revenue it generates you will find your bosses pushing for traffic numbers.
Where would the city store all those junk trucks?
Exclude licenses suspended for emission or parking tickets and I'm for it. Any cause of action taken for moving violations, or failing to pay a MOVING violation ticket, go for it.
Give it a few months and the traffic congestion will stop.
Tom Allen for mayor.
Anonymous said...
I work nights and have a 1300 hr traffic court time. Thats why I don't write movers unless I have to. It takes me about 3 hrs round trip and I spend about 5 min in court. They can take their 3.5 hrs and stick it. I'd rather have that time for sleep or my family. Put traffic court at the areas and I'll write tickets all day. Plus I'd have a place to park my car so I wouldn't have to depend on public trans. Same thing w/domestic court what a fucking joke. NO where to park and the victim and the offender never show up at least the mutts on the west side don't. Asspimples running the show and have no idea how to do shit.
4/16/2009 10:21:00 AM
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You know you can request a change of your court time. A to-from with requested time should do it. When I was on mids, changed court time to first call and went straight from work.
Al Gore said...
I think it's a great idea ... There would be a 90 % reduction in cars in 015, 011, 007, 010, 006, 005, 003, 025, half of 009, half of 008, half of 022, one quarter of 004, the mopes that want their cars back would pay the fine,(revenues go up), the rest would have to take public transportation (revenues go up), less emissions, no more having to worrying about global warming.
4/16/2009 01:48:00 PM
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Plus no gridlock and no sitting in traffic tieups!
Skokie, Waukegan, Park Ridge and a few, but increasing # of other suburbs all require the driver to post $500 bond before they get their car back if they get pinched for no valid, suspended, no insurance or DUI. It's a money maker, for sure.
be very careful when impounding vehicles boys and girls. the order says nothing about you driving the vehicle to the station. leave it on scene. if you get into an accident on way into station city washes hands of you and you might be on ass end of lawsuit. put sticker on vehicle and have tow ordered. so what if family retrieves vehicle , the less impounds the better. no contract , no revenue
I was in court today, for no license and first insurance violation it was only a fifteen dollar fine. Then the court fees of 130 something added on. WHY? Who's making the money?
"I work nights and have a 1300 hr traffic court time. Thats why I don't write movers unless ...
4/16/2009 10:21:00 AM"
If you are going to remain on midnights, it is a simple thing to get your traffic court time changed to 0900. Make out a To/From request, have the W.C. approve it and bring it to the Traffic Court supervisor.
Just be sure you want this, if you go to the Third Watch it would be a bad time.
Stay safe, it might take a month or two to get what you want, but you have to ask.
There will be a cry that this is racially motivated if they try to pass it.
Anonymous said...
in the 007th district thats like uh um 9 out of 10 cars pulled over. detail the traffic unit to 007 for 1 month. tell them zero tolerance on drivers with a revoked or suspended drivers license. . . .
Traffic Unit detailed to 007 -- Now that's funny! Have you ever met those people?
huh?
they'll just move on to the next raggedy-ass, flaming coffin, death-trap they bought for $100 & a handful of jabs just like the last one...
it's amazing how these assholes manage to hit decent working folk more often than they hit each other but when they do it's hilarious. "...fuck you mean you ain't got no insurance bitch!"
... so now you got two tore up pieces of shit (cars & drivers) in the middle of the intersection with one trying to take a "deductible" out of the other's ass... or they're both half dead from the collision and trying to hurry up and take the plates off the cars & fly away before the police arrive. hope this ordinance is enacted. something needs to be done about these horseshit insurance companies... insurance info could be displayed on a window sticker & verified through a computer check.
Brookins is another one who has his hands in the cookie jar.
I was in court today, for no license and first insurance violation it was only a fifteen dollar fine. Then the court fees of 130 something added on. WHY? Who's making the money?
4/16/2009 11:46:00 PM
$15 to the State
$130 goes to the County (who pays the Judge, and the Court)
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