Alder-morons
Longtime administration loyalists Ray Suarez and Richard Mell suggested it might be time for a cutback in public safety staffing—something that's usually considered a political no-no. “I thought the pain was going to be shared by all city workers,” Suarez griped.
“If you want, you can introduce a resolution urging layoffs of police and fire,” snapped committee chairman Ed Burke.
“I know police and fire are sacrosanct, but these are dire times,” Mell said. “When I see cement mixers gone, when I see those people who are out in our communities daily and they’re going to be gone—the ramifications of what we’re doing are a lot more than what we’re seeing right now.”
Hey morons? If you get us a decent contract, you'll have 500 retirements by years end, guaranteed. And since Shortshanks isn't hiring, you'll "save" millions.
Isn't someone going to propose cutting aldercreatures by half? That'd be at least another $100 million savings in salaries, staffing, and slush funding, not to mention the reduction in corruption which could number in the billions.
Isn't someone going to propose cutting aldercreatures by half? That'd be at least another $100 million savings in salaries, staffing, and slush funding, not to mention the reduction in corruption which could number in the billions.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
60 Comments:
How would all of you warrior feel about risking it all if you got a pink slip? Just wondering.
Unreal. And they want aggressive cops out there because they have our backs. OK. Working for them now seems just so, stupid.
God I hate this City!
THOSE ALDER BAFOONS SHOULD HAVE ALL THE DISTRICT IN THE WARD EMPTIED OUT.
THEY R VOLUNTEERING THAT THEY HAVE LESS MANPOWER IN THEIR WARD.
WEIS SHOULD CALL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT HE IS TAKING THEIR OFFICERS AND STICKING THEM IN ENGLEWOOD.
ITS SAD THESE STROKE R ELECTED W/ LITTLE FORMAL EDUCATION A WHOLE LOT OF STUPID.
WHY NOT CLOSE HOSPITAL TOO!
HOW ABOUT CUT AMBULANCES!
NO FIRE SERVICE IN DA HOOD W/ MORE THAN 2 VACANT BUILDINGS ON A BLOCK.
THESE ALDERMAN JUST DONT WANT TO OFFEND DALEY AND MENTION ANY KIND OF WASTE... U NOTICE NO ALDERMAN EVER MENTIONS TIF IN THEIR WARDS EITHER I WONDER WHY?
how about we cut your fucking salary for doing nothing, fucking idoits. lay off police? and fire? you fucking assholes are lucky we cant strike..would that be a sight. the city would burn and who would stand up to the Animals? you Fn pansies? BTW whos turn is it to get indicted this week? Im sure it will be one of you before one of us.here's a resolution GFYS remember the one you gave me? for my services ? no? thats because It dont mean shit now. I am just one cop,but I know just how well to get fd over. come on RET.badge. LIFM
Puppets grandstanding for the Mayor, that's all. Members in good standing of the Daley Crime Family.
eliminate aldermen all together... make it a volunteer position... Im sure there are plenty of "community organizers" that would take on the job for nothing other than political experience... how do we get the ball rolling on that??? The position of alderman is antiquated and should be obsolete... Lets put the heat on them... reverse the tables... if they put us in the crosshairs, lets bring it up to the public that the alderman position is a waste... get some media, get some support... at least float the idea out there... HELLO FOP!!! WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU!!!???
It won't happen.
Dick is complaining about not seeing cement mixers? I see 10 man crews working on those damn flower pots everyday, but I see my beat car drive by once a week... maybe. What a fucking hypocrite. When have alderman shared the pain? If I made 110k plus the 1.2 million I'd shut the fuck up about pain. Complain to me about pain when you're making less than 50k and your job is on the line like me.
Go fuck yourself Dick, or do you have a cousin that owns one of those cement mixers and you've been losing the kickbacks?
I've never understood the concept of waiting for a new contract before retiring. If you retired today you will still get any and all benefits of the contract.
Get rid of at least forty of the aldermen. Hire community service workers who can do everything aldermen do( except bribes payoffs and graft)
Have term limits for the remaining aldermen.
Vote out the mayor and all sitting aldermen especially Suarez and that crooked ghetto f--k in the 9th ward Alderman Squeal.
Dick Mell better say everything he's got to say while he can. He's in for a big surprise.
LOL...I love SCC's comments at the end ...Classic SCC
“I know police and fire are sacrosanct, but these are dire times,” Mell said.
ARE ALDERMEN SACROSANCT? CUT THEM!
btw...
Mell, you're daughter was looking pretty hot on "Get me outta here, I'm not a celebrity" Can you get me a date? Or is she sacrosanct too? I like how you had that huge security guard with her the whole show, nice move. One other thing. Did you have a big shit eatin grin on your face when you said that we were "sacrosanct"? You did, didn't you, you sarcastic jagoff!
Patti B. CALL ME!! 588-2300 EMPIRE
Since it seems that everyone is sharing the pain, how is it that the alderfolks gave themselves 6% raises and their staffs got 5% raises???? Being that these are "dire" times, how about giving those raises back?????
maybe Mell can work for "I'm a celebrity" and eat a poisonous fucking- toad for all to enjoy
ok start by laying off the body guard details for the mayor and the alderidiots.
If Alderman Mell wants to save the City money he should resign!
Among his many accomplishments over the years is his initial backing of his son-in-law, Blago. Also, we have his relationship with John "Quarters" Boyle, which has never been explained.
It is time for he to move on.
Lay off police and fire? Tough talk but I don't think it will happen unless a few aldercreatures volunteer to be the sacrificial lambs.
Boy, there must be progress in the contract talks ( in our favor ) for this kind of info to be coming from city hall. As SCC pointed out, once the contract is ratified by the rank and file, there will be at least 500 retirement papers put in within the first week.
How long does it take to answer non life threatening calls now? They have already cut back in other city services. My garbage used to be picked up by 8a.m. every Friday like clock work. But since they cut 1 body from the crew it takes them longer to do the job.
I am just astounded by the arrogance of Daley and his merry band of 50 thieves; force non union employees to take 16 unpaid furlough days while my aldercreature, Doughety (sp?), has not taken one since '07. Cut back in the hiring of first responders but continue to support 50 aldercreatures who get paid over $100,000 for what is still essentially a part-time job.
Oh, but hey keep pushing those Olympics.
That'll save this city.
Dump Daley.
Hoffman for Mayor.
TO RAY SUAREZ:
Hey Ray, have ya walked around the hood lately? Try walking from your office west to Riis PK and see if you survive the journey.
I appreciate your VietNam duty,but
ya need to lay off the Panamanian Red and open your eyes and see what happened to that ward/hood.Even Mell's son-in-law fled years ago. Once ya sober up, you'll see that ya need to double the Police up, not cut them.
Good luck w/recovery!!!!
Anonymous said...
I've never understood the concept of waiting for a new contract before retiring. If you retired today you will still get any and all benefits of the contract.
6/28/2009 12:58:00 AM
Because the city/fop can agree to different terms, i.e. that the 55 yrs and out for medical coverage only be effective after a certain date. If I have already retired and the date they agree upon is one month after the date I retire = I would not get that benefit.
Hence, wait until the contract is signed, sealed and delivered.
Remember this is the City of Shitcago we are dealing with.
(not to be trusted)
I remember in the mid 80's when then Mayor Harold Washington wanted to lay off police officers.
He statred with a recruit class that was in the academy.
The city was in an uproar.
Didn't last but a couple/few days (not even a full week) and they were back in class.
Go ahead Mell/Suarez, go ahead, do it!
I say yet again, Why the hell do we need Aldermen?
This is Daley getting worried about his time frame for selling off the City to his private friends. He thought he would have another election under his belt so he could sell off the City with less noise. But as of late, all his problems have forced his hand and he is now putting all his cards on the table:
1. Layoff threats to civilians
2. Layoff threats to fire-police
3. City Council threats to sell parking meters again
4. Ridiculous revenue ideas such as Red Light driving school as mandatory.
Bottom line is Daley wants two things, one goes hand in hand with the other:
1. Sell off City assets to whom his own created "mob" tells him to
2. Privatize what he calls "liabilities", such as the police department.
These two things will happen now, in very short order and not as planned because Daley is now facing the possibility of losing his office, hopefully jail time.
He is having a fire sale on City Assets just as Gordon Gecko buys up undervalued companies and sells off the valueable holdings. He's getting the feeling he won't be around much longer to sell it off at a quiet pace.
He also wants to minimize his political exposure by using this privatization to both enrich whom he's told to enrich, and to limit the City's exposure to lawsuits. That means chopping down the Chicago Police Department in terms of manpower to the point where he can then try and sell the idea off the "privatize" non-emergency police services.
Before he is gone, Daley will have ALL non-emergency services performed by a privatized company. The actual "police", will be a reactionary force that will respond to in-progress jobs as crimes against person or property and will be prioritized as property being toward the bottom of the scale. The "police" will be more like a small militia, with better arms and less interaction with the citizens.
This also helps the privateers, because traffic accidents will no longer be handled on scene. Civilians will appear on scene and determine if medical help is necessary and have traffic cleared. The actual case report can be done at any time, it's not necessary to write a report at the scene. For those that believe you need sworn police to quell a traffic altercation, remember the preceeding Daleyism: Only if a traffic altercation becomes a crime against person will the "police" respond. So, in the end, it doesn't matter who shows up on scene because the actual "police" will only be called if it turns into a crime.
Yes, Daley knows he's at his end, and he now has to speed up his agenda to accomplish what he must get done before he's no longer in a position to do so, so it has been ordered by the Gordon Geckos of this world.
The lack of hiring has already effectively laid police officers off. That is why little dick has not proposed concessions for police before. He has nothing to bargain with. If he wants layoffs he can tell us how many he wants to layoff and then we can see how many we are actually short. Even with five hundred layoffs, I bet we would still need to hire 400 PO's. Fuck him and the fifty thieves.
NO PATTI,CALL ME....773-202-L U N A
NICE BUT,BY THE WAY.
Anonymous said...
I've never understood the concept of waiting for a new contract before retiring. If you retired today you will still get any and all benefits of the contract.
6/28/2009 12:58:00 AM
Any active member of either FOP or Local 2 is covered by their respective Union contracts as long as they are considered active. Once an individual elects to retire he/she is only guaranteed what was in the contract in existence on that date of retirement. The Unions MUST negotiate for those members to receive any increases in the next contract. The CFFU Local 2 in the past did sell-out the retirees who retired before the new contract was settled and they did not receive their Retro- Monies that year. SCC keep up the excellent work! You are the only real voice for both Police and Fire. Local 2 is just as bad as your FLOP. God Bless the Police you have always been there for this CFD 30 year plus member and my men! It is truly us against them.
maybe we can start by firing all of the alderman who live outside chicago in violation of city employee residency rules-- the first on the list should be "dicky mell"-- yeah player, don't throw rocks when you live in a fish bowl----
Neither of these morons would have said a word on their own. Shitbag Daley had them throw this out there to stir the pot.
all the doorbell ringers are losing there jobs,no job no doorbell ringers.dire times take back that 6% raise bitches!
I've never understood the concept of waiting for a new contract before retiring. If you retired today you will still get any and all benefits of the contract.
6/28/2009 12:58:00 AM
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Nobody trusts that to be true. The big issue this time out is the rumored 55 and up insurance item. If we knew they'd honor it restroactively (don't even know it they legally COULD do that), a couple hundred would retire NOW.
Don't worry children. The pendulum is swinging. Their time is coming to an end. Let them talk. The big binge is over. They just don't know it yet.
abe lincoln ..better to remain silent and thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
If Suarez decides to do some cutting in the Department, then who is going to take care of all of his shit requests for service. Not too long ago I recieved one of his requests to write permit parking on one of his streets. Request stated virtually every car did not have a zone permit, out of 37 cars there was only one that did not have a permit. So Suarez you keep getting those requests and get your ass out there and write the tickets yourself.
Its happening all over the country and even here closer to home. Coppers in Joliet and Waukegan are fighting right now to save there jobs.
Fine!!! Do it! Start at the top. First clip car 1 out of the budget and then the 310K Ex-Fed, then Masters for being a useless pimple, then the rest of the goons in upper ranks. That would save millions. There's a bunch of white shirt do nothings in HQ. CAPs. All of the new divisions that were created for "friends" in HQ. Get rid of the BIS because of what happened to Cozzi cured the illness for the go getters. Friends of the alder-crooks. The list goes on.
If we got a great contract & decent raise w/reto, I WOULD gladly write some parkers & movers for the city but since we always get shit on, I don't write ANYTHING!
It seems Mell is as gifted an aldercreature as he is a father. (One daughter married to a soon-to-be felon and the other who is an ugly little boy.) Great idea cutting police Dick. We need to cut your crooked a$$.
THIS COMMING FROM THE NO BALLS ALDERMAN THAT GAVE US OUR X STATE LEADER. WHO WOULD STILL BE BACKING HIM, IF HE DIDN'T SCREW HIM OUT OF HIS LAND FILL DEAL.
Dick Mell? You're the asshole that foisted Blago on us and the rest of the state.
STFU Dick, you already had your special law passed after you fucked up re-registering your handguns.
How can you lay off cops when we are already down about 1,000 coppers?
You, Suarez and the other 48 asshole Alderman are all that is wrong with this city.
Lay off coppers and then really see what happens. Your gang infested areas will really rise up and fuck with the good people and how would you explain that?
how about taking attendance and see who doesnt show up and get rid of these morons, im sure that will be justification enough. but its a double standard.
Hey morons? If you get us a decent contract, you'll have 500 retirements by years end, guaranteed. And since Shortshanks isn't hiring, you'll "save" millions.
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Not only will it save them millions, but if you give me a contract with a very modest raise I might write a couple of movers and parkers every day to help generate even more money.
25 police districts, 25 aldermen. One per district. Rezone the aldermen's areas to conform with the districts. Problem solved!
Save the city millions whilst providing the good citizens the opportunity to actually get aldercreature services.
Just have the existing 50 duke it out and the strongest 25 get to pick and choose their district of service.
So simple a mayor could figure it out.
Fuck Dick Mell, thaqt asshole has more money then he needs, He owns Mell Spring Company, and that squirrel faced ASSHOLE should stay quiet, with all the baggage he has, he is the luckiest man around, the G should look at him.
Anonymous said...
Dick Mell? You're the asshole that foisted Blago on us and the rest of the state.
STFU Dick, you already had your special law passed after you fucked up re-registering your handguns.
How can you lay off cops when we are already down about 1,000 coppers?
You, Suarez and the other 48 asshole Alderman are all that is wrong with this city.
Lay off coppers and then really see what happens. Your gang infested areas will really rise up and fuck with the good people and how would you explain that?
6/28/2009 05:05:00 PM
Lets lay off officers in suarezs,mells,and eddies ward! That means the 6+ valets eddie are you getting more senile ass?
Anonymous said...
It seems Mell is as gifted an aldercreature as he is a father. (One daughter married to a soon-to-be felon and the other who is an ugly little boy.) Great idea cutting police Dick. We need to cut your crooked a$$.
6/28/2009 04:28:00 PM
why does mells realtive have "christy weber landscaping?" With all the major city contracts such as midway,O'hare and all the flower pots? All the illegals, and trucks without city stickers and proper plates! Hey I.C.E. look into this, investigative reporters here ya go!
Hey Mell
Remember yor the "governor-in-law".
I'm sure Mell & Ray didn't come up with this on their own. They're simply voicing what their Lord & Master, Daley told them to say.
Suarez was a decent appointment by JR at one time, I think he would even know all the old dead dogs, maybe not Johnny Leon, but .. he handled things well when Hermosa, aka 25th, parts of 14, may be even 15 at the time,, and I'm getting old,
You know what,,, I still think this guy Suarez, despite him being a Marine, would be a better Mayor,
(I like getting Marines all riled up)
Here's some funny shit about him:
He hasn't taken any money from any one, he isn't beholden to any Rev., his Spanish is absolutley fucking hilarious, he know's the difference between a gang banger and a porch,, ,he was appointed and remained in power of his little kingdom...
and he know's he can't do shit about anything,,
Here's a hint Media:\
Serbian democrats, ward bosses daughters, section 8 housing, public TV.
Wait.. wait.. Disney
but Suarez did manage to gerrymander himself another ten years on the dole, 19??
Suarez for Mayor.\\
his slogan: better than any asshole we got now.
ps,,,the funniest commercial I ever saw, was his ward boss, it was funny as hell,
Guy was funnier than Woodrow Wilson with shiney shoes...
Fuck you J-Fed--Pardon Cozzi
CFD contract talks are going almost as well as ours. At the last round of fire side negotiations, the City proposed a contract with a 9% pay cut.
Suarez & Mell The true meaning of Walking Dicks W/Ears. They're both overdue for a visit from Pat Fitzgeralds Office.
Actually the last comment made about the last round of contract talks between the City and Local 2 asking for a 9% pay cut might be a bad rumor. Local 2 met with the city this past Thursday (June 25th 2009) and for the first time, in along time the city finally put things on the table that Local 2 felt comfortable with, even though they did not signoff an anything yet. The Firefighters Union said this does not mean we will have a contract next week, but they feel like the talks are finally moving in the right direction. This can all be verified by calling Local 2hotline at: 773-536-6067 which is updated every Friday by Ryan (The CFD Unions President)
Submitted by a 25 year member of the CFD
Hey! Wake up!! Why wait until 2012?!! Lets lay off all of the police and firemen. Even for a week. It will save a ton of dough!!!Then the Mayor and all the aldermen will get another raise and the people that keep this city from falling apart will get nothing!! Hell, why not arm all the aldermen and let them go out on the streets and keep peace. If there is a fire, well the aldermen can put that gear on and run into that burning building a save that person. Comeon aldermen lets go ahead and lay off those city workers. Just so you know.......the tax payers didn't make up the budget...you guys did, so don't take it out on us!!
The numbers all show that the little pimp and his alderscum have altrady layed the CPD off.
no contract
no hires
pud for a boss
right michael masters, yeah!
WITHOUT POLICE AND FIRE THERE IS NO CITY YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!
I've never understood the concept of waiting for a new contract before retiring. If you retired today you will still get any and all benefits of the contract.
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It is easy to understand why you never understood the concept because your statement is wrong.
are you getting more senile ass?
6/28/2009 09:18:00 PM
I've never gotten any senile ass; do you recommend it?
this is what happens when this is a one party state. city,county and state pols that dont worry about sh ite! no counter balance to their silly bullshit. these fools have been stinkin us the city for decades.their brains have rotted and they are completely out of touch. no term limits and they give themselves raises. give back your raises and your million dollar slush funds. no shame
Shell Answer Man said...25 police districts, 25 aldermen. One per district. Rezone the aldermen's areas to conform with the districts. .Just have the existing 50 duke it out and the strongest 25 get to pick and choose their district of service. So simple a mayor could figure it out.
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Thunderdome: 2 aldercreeps enter, one wins. Charge winners fees for choosing their new aldercreepish districts, based on desirability of the area.Cap their pay, and require 24/7/365 coverage. Aldercreep staff are entitled only to minimum wage. Abolish automatic pay raises - let them go through contract negotiations. Aldercreeps and staff must live in their chosen district. Limit terms to one per district - if an aldercreep is that into the position and can win another, let him/her run for a different district, and move there. Send 311 and 911 calls for stupid stuff (junior ain't be doin his homeworks, finna buy granny a box of Depends but the co'ner sto done out, etc.) to aldercreep's offices for follow-up.
8:38 PM
Assume that Chicago's POPULATION is 2,800,000. The size of the wards are (approximately) equal in POPULATION (unlike police districts) based on U.S. Census data.
The City currently has FIFTY wards, each with an approximate POPULATION of 56,000. If you were to cut the wards in half to TWENTY-FIVE, each ward must have an approximate population of 112,000 people.
I'm all for it. However, it would be impossible to align ward boundaries with those of current police districts.
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