Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Memorial OUTRAGE (Updated Below)

You aren't going to believe this shit (from the comments):
  • Hey, SCC. I'm putting this here because there were other vandals at the Memorial this weekend after the U2 concert. People were using the memorial as their own personal urinal. There was an officer out there that I saw writing tickets. Don't know if there were more, or if he was the only one assigned over there; we couldn't tell. With the number of people pissing over there, he could've used some backup, if he was the only one. It was absolutely disgusting. We commented (loudly) to those doing it and told them to stop, but of course they don't listen.
This isn't nearly the worst of it though. We got an e-mail from a cop who was writing the ANOVs for the public urination charges. The post was undermanned to say the least. And who do you suppose he caught?
  • I work in unit [deleted] and asked to get assigned to Gold Star Park for the show, mainly to make sure people didn't drink alcohol in our park or urinate on our wall. So, the show lets out and here comes the steady stream of drunks taking the shortcut thru the park east to get to the east lot, no problem. Soon the drunks (mostly suburb or out of state) decide the circle (area with our fallens' names) looked like a good place to piss... I wrote 2 of the first 5 I could get to but what happens next made me sick.

    Just finished the 2nd ANOV and I spot another drunk male lining himself up to piss, I head his way and basicly ask him "what the fuck are you doing" as I give him a lecture about what the area is. He replies, "this is my park too" so I'm thinking this is a taxpayer trying to be a smartass and he wants to go to jail. I start to rip into him and he says "save it, I'm a cop too. I got [deleted] years on the job, blah,blah,blah". I'm thinking what suburb did this jagoff come from and I asked him for I.D. He pulls out his CPD I.D. card and I stood there in disbelief. His name is [deleted], assigned to [deleted] and has [deleted] years on. What made me sicker is that claims to have worked with Eric Lee and another officer whose name is on the wall.

    Sitting here typing I regret not tossing an ANOV his way or possibly throwing some cuffs on him. This kid doesn't deserve to wear the badge. The least I can do now is type this out and let others know of the disrespect this "officer" has shown to those that paid with their lives... Its times like these I wish I was off duty too so I could walk up to him and knock his drunk ass out!
Here's the SCC dilemma in a nutshell:

We have this "officer's" name, unit and years of service. We put the word "officer" in quotes because this scumbag is completely undeserving of wearing the badge. Treating the grounds of our memorial as his own public urinal because he happens to wear the same badge and uniform that we do? That our deceased brothers and sisters did? Fuck that. This ass deserves every bit of scorn and crap that should be flung his way. His name should be mud the rest of his career - and he has a ways to go before it's called a career.

We didn't create this site to out jagoffs though. We created it to take the Department to task over injustices, outrages, stupid policies and boneheaded decisions. Along the way, we've managed to out some jagoffs unintentionally. It happens and it's usually for the better.

So what do we do? Do we publish it all? Do we give this ass a chance to make amends? Why do complete fuck-ups like this "officer" manage to slip through the cracks and create the potential for embarrassment at every turn?

We are sickened. Again.

UPDATE: Comments are running around 100% to name him, draw him, quarter him, etc.

But a few calmer heads made some points that bear careful thought:
  • IAD and J-Fed are going to hammer the copper who didn't take police action. There is not one iota of doubt in our mind. That ANOV or that physical arrest is the only evidence of wrongdoing and it's missing;
  • We aren't going to be taunted into action. To the various posted and unposted comments calling us "coward" or variations of the same, don't you think there's a reason we're still around and SecondCityDick isn't? Or because Shaved went to moderated comments? Or we've outlasted DomeLights in Philly?
  • IAD isn't taking anonymous complaints for public urination. Especially from an anonymous blog;
  • Demanding a financial contribution as restitution would be tantamount to blackmail and extortion. Think about it.
  • To the constant Airport Sergeant defender, you must be in her pants. She MADE herself a public figure. The photo was all over the Channel 7 News. This asshole, by not being cited, isn't.
We have the letter-writer's name, star, unit and e-mail, too. For obvious reasons, we don't communicate using Department computers, e-mail, phones, PAX lines, etc. But at this time we're willing to accept the accusation as 100% truthful.

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256 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuk this POS post all his information and let him get what he has coming.

9/15/2009 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Were fucked if the story is true, then we are our worst!! I promise you all this we must shine a light on this turd who wears our star and piss's on the memory of fallen officers!!!

To the PO who gave this shit head a pass. I say F U C K him drop the hammer on this shit bag!!!!!!!

I'm no IAD rat but F-U-C-K this shit and get the cr number on this asshat !!!!!!!!!!!

9/15/2009 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck that! drunk or not you show respect for the memorial and the fallen officers . I'm not a company man or a kool aid drinker, but when I go near that park I get a lump in my throat.
Post that son of bitch name and see that the Dept get a hold of him also.

9/15/2009 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it j-fed? Well name the fucker!! Now.!! I'm not donating $20 bucks a paychek for a porta potty. I have friends names inscribed on the wall. What a fucking disgrace. Sadly I know a few POs like that.

9/15/2009 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How the fuck does this jagoff not be named or hinted as to who he is??? Im blaming you SCC, but that is a fucked up story.

9/15/2009 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,
It is an outrage that this pig would disgrace our dead. Out him -he doesn't deserve to wear the uniform or get the dignity of anonmity. Unfortunatey, there will be a few bad apples - we just need to get rid of them asap before they harm others.

9/15/2009 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OUT HIM!!! This asshole deserves it! I have a friend on that wall. He might as well have pissed on my mother's grave. At least tell us what Dist/Unit he's in.

9/15/2009 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck that! you better post that shit. if this is true and he pulled that bull shit for real he should be outted infront of all his peers. im a p.o and most of my family are the police... not to mention i have a family member on that wall... i want this motherfuckers name!!! enough of this jagoff shit that these guys pull.. now they think they can do this and talk to an on duty officer like that... this really is driving me nuts, i apologize for the profanity but i really cant butter it up or find a way to make it sound nice because it shouldnt... this guy is an asshole and scc if you had any character at all you would do the right thing and embarress the hell out of this guy for his crap... pissing on our dead.. pissing on my dead.. pissing on memories of our fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters and friends. there is a reason we all get together to march every year... even though we all like michigan ave better, but its for the names on that wall... please embarress the hell out of this guy... he should get something because if it was me he would not have gotten an anov, he would have been locked up... no class

9/15/2009 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd say print it, but then again, he'll probably not make sundown on Tuesday if it is printed.

I hope he reads this and takes this to heart: Get The Fuck Off This Job. You just don't get it asshole.

9/15/2009 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out him!! Let's see how long he lasts on this job before he turns in his PAR form.

9/15/2009 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S.C.C. I am begging you to do something to let us officers know who this jagoff is. My partner's name is on that memorial. I was with him the day it happened.....
I used to think when a person said that they thought about someone they lost every day that it was just an expression. Well now I know firsthand that it's not. Thursday night is the candlelight vigil at the memorial, maybe he should come do it then in front of my partners family. SCC I know your site was not intended for the purpose of ratting officers out for their actions but this crosses that line. This person (I can't even call him "officer") is a disgrace and deserves to have his name known.
I'm begging you SCC, please somehow someway let us know......

9/15/2009 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch J-Fed & IAD go after the copper for not locking up or ANOVing this asshole.

9/15/2009 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Post his name! Fuck him!

9/15/2009 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F-EM.....WE HAVE TOO MUCH PRIDE TO LET THIS OFFICER WALK AMONG US.

9/15/2009 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, You should describe what your version of "lining up to piss" really was. I seriously doubt that any copper, whether drunk or not, would piss on the memorial. I understand your outrage at some scumbags that you were dealing that night. But was this officer just drunk and cutting through the memorial and maybe you took some of your frustration out on him for cutting through???
-just sayin....

9/15/2009 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In reference to the "goof" who embarrassed himself at the memorial. I don't think we should out him to us but those that do know him need to get the meesage to him that he was out of line and his actions are unacceptable! If he chooses not to heed a word from the wise...then out him on the boards. We have all done something that would somehow bring discredit upon our peers and have been able to negotiage a reasonable resolution. Sgt. K. O'Malley, 021 (for 8 or 9 more months!!!!!!)

9/15/2009 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publish it-he did not care who "saw" him pissing on the memorial did he?

Everyone makes mistakes, sure but as an officer he could of been more resourceful and found another place to piss. If this was my husband, I would be saying the same thing. His name needs to be put out. If this guy is doing this, then maybe he has other emotional issues that need to be dealt with. I always read on this blog that you are here to help each other. If no one knows who he is then this may be the beginning of something bigger eventually if people keep covering for him. When something tragic happens everyone always said they would of helped. Here is the chance "before."

9/15/2009 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Squad, this is the first time I have left a message on this blog, 23 years on the job, this is my opinion Our memorial is sacred ground, I would expect this disrespect from a jagoff citizen but, from a copper? FUCK him and publish the name. Let the rest of us know who the traitor among us is.

9/15/2009 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

publish that asses name.....i want to know if he sits next to be in roll call. what a disgrace.

9/15/2009 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Post it!!

9/15/2009 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put his fucking name on the blog.

9/15/2009 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a disgrace to our fallen and their families. This "officer" needs to resign now! Just like J-fed, you dont deserve to wear our uniform scumbag!

9/15/2009 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy is an asshole, no doubt about it. But if you post his name, you might be on the hook for some type of slander. No police action was taken against him to back the story, and someone could easily make a case for damages as a result of the hostile work environment this could create. Talk to some lawyer friends first.

9/15/2009 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

You're in a tight spot...maybe just his initials and unit? Be careful with this one. What a shame!

9/15/2009 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still as bad, I believe U2 supported Mumia, the guy who killed Danny Falkner. Why go to their shows?

9/15/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with posting the guy's information is that it may be a BS story.

Smells like BS to me


I don't know though.

There are some real first class assholes who wear the CPD shield.

Still the percentage of police assholes compared to Aldermanic assholes is small.

9/15/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Post the name, he's probably not like anyway... What a POS

9/15/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOUNDS LIKE A SGT IN TRAINNING, PLEASE PRINT HIS INFO!!!

9/15/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Print his fucking name...if he's going to desecrate that memorial, then he deserves the consequences for his actions.

9/15/2009 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

out that jagoff


SSS

9/15/2009 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So what do we do? Do we publish it all? Do we give this ass a chance to make amends? Why do complete fuck-ups like this "officer" manage to slip through the cracks and create the potential for embarrassment at every turn?"

DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH, HE'S PROBABLY SOME CLOUTED CLOWN. UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE A DIME DOZEN. PERHAPS KARMA WILL CATCH UP TO HIM??

9/15/2009 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would say out the jagoff!!! But beware of one side of the story before you destroy someones reputation...
Send a copy of the post to his department email, and see if he responds...

9/15/2009 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why? Why?

9/15/2009 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Chuck Conners, the Rifleman said...

Let's try not to jump the gun. The way I see it, SCC, is there are ways to leak out what a prick this guy is without posting his name on the blog. Do I care about him getting tormented? Fuck no! But this is the type of prick that would try to sue you over posting shit about him and I'd hate to see this site shut down. Fuck man, if the P.O. that e-mailed you is reading this, It's up to you sir, to not let this injustice slide. Hell, call his station, unit, whatever. Tell them what a prick he is. Just dial *67 or use the PAX. (Provided of course, that you are not some sociopath that made it all up to get revenge on some cop that pissed you off one night at Teasers.)

SCC, I'm sure you have some random contacts or friend of a friend that can help spread what a douche bag this clown is. Trust me, it might not be immediate, like everyone wants, but word gets around on this department eventually and the prick will be outed.

One of the good things about this sight before the filter was that certain jagoff P.O.'s did get outted. Guys that were juiced in from washing the deputy's car and spending hours in the Captains office telling him jokes. The site is better with the filter because it cut's down on the cowards harassing guys that would beat the shit out of them, but the filterless blog had some pluses.

Here's the other side of the coin. I don't know anything about this pussy. Is he like the previous mentioned ass kissers? Is he J-Fed's nephew? Do him and Aunt Bea get together on Sunday nights and play Bridge? If the guy is juiced up and thinks he can do whatever he wants, then fuck it SCC, spill!!!!!!!!! If this sight isn't used to bust jagoff's like this once in awhile that are connected, then what's the point?

Mark my words, if what this cocksucker said and did is true, and nothings done about it to knock him down a peg or two, then I guarantee, eventually he will become the next tact lt., captain, commander, deputy, etc. Coming soon, to a district near you. He's just the type of man this department would promote nowadays. Sorry about the long post. To all you guys and gals, be safe out there!

9/15/2009 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck that, publish it!


It is not like he did not have the balls and audacity to whip out his ID when he was in trouble — so, if he was so willing to identify himself them, SCC, your good to go with putting his name out there.

Just name, we do not need unit, years, star, etc, etc, the name is good enough.

Maybe he will send you an E-mail after he is outed and try to come up with some lame ass excuse

9/15/2009 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Was detailed to the U2 shows all weekend and never heard a word of this!? WTF!? Too bad there wasn't enough of us nearby to toss drunk jagoff into the lake. Speaking of which, talk about horribly undermanned. I know it's just U2, but a barebones crew making sure 70K people leave Soldier Field peacefully once they're all boozed-up and forced to walk to Michigan Ave to find transportation. Even middle-aged people were mother-fucking us.

Pissing on the Memorial though? Rat that piece of shit, cock-sucking, disrespectful, moron of an "Officer" out, and let him/her face the wrath of the Working Police.

That, or at least he/she should identify himself, fess up, apologize.... and beyond that, just be humiliated.

9/15/2009 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC YOU SHOULD POST HIS NAME.

9/15/2009 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i almost think you have to post it... or generate a CR on the guy..

9/15/2009 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OUT THIS FUCKER!

9/15/2009 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THIS ASS IS.

9/15/2009 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, handle this in house. Get the word to that unit that this "officer" was the one that pissed on the memorial. No CR's, no delayed 19-Kings, and no public floggings on this blog. Let that unit's own officers handle it on their own.

****Collect urine from a public urinal(mixed DNA)and present it to the offending "officer" at an appropriate time in an appropriate location. 10-4?

9/15/2009 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous SRT said...

Fuck him lets see who it is. At least lets get initials or something.

9/15/2009 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Officer who related this info left his contact info for you to personally confirm either in person or through phone (basically somehow be able to confirm it's not BS), then publish this WASTE OF SKIN'S name. Or at least his initials and the unit he works in. How dare this POS do this to the Memorial. He's not one of us. I'd rather piss on myself than desecrate the Memorial.

9/15/2009 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

POST IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/15/2009 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

please please let us know who he is and where he works!!

9/15/2009 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OUT this scumbag!!! Since hes such a tough guy, I'm sure he would want everyone to know him on a first name basis. We only owe the fallen our respect, this guy aint' worth the air we breathe.

9/15/2009 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publish his name.

9/15/2009 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PUBLISH HIS NAME.

9/15/2009 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hindsight is 20-20. The P.O. should have written him a ticket. Then he'd be in a bucket full of shit. You know, the old rule that you must notify the department when you get arrested (yes, an Anov is technically an arrest). CR number...there are all sorts of violations just waiting to crawl up his ass.

But, your best bet at this time is for the P.O. to who stopped this asshole, go to his supervisor and get a CR number on this jag.

There are other ways to out him, without doing it here. Hmm, Phil Cline comes to mind...

9/15/2009 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck him. Post it.

9/15/2009 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope this jackass gets fired. So many of us are waiting to be hired and waiting for a chance to wear that badge with pride and honor and this jackass dishonors it by his actions.

God bless the CPD and nobody else.

9/15/2009 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does his/her name rhyme with?

9/15/2009 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why not post it you post rumors about other officers using their initials. A few years back a lie was posted about me and it actually had a hurtful and negative affect on me. But if you post his name post the name of the accusing officer. Although the accusing officer did nothing wrong we all claim to be about justice and in our great county we have a right to know who our accuser is. But then again if this officer (the pisser) has kids then I say don’t post it. Its not their fault.

9/15/2009 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My entire west side district would like to know his name. At least the ones on first watch I just spoke to about this clown.

9/15/2009 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous RepublicanCowboy said...

OUT that MOTHERFUCKER!!!! Fuck him and every other piece of shit that makes it hard to be the police these days. This once proud and respected profession is now, much like the memorial, pissed on by too many. We have so many slack ass piece of shit that destroy our imagine, the blue line DOES NOT APPLY!!! Professional courtesy is only given to PROFESSIONALS.

9/15/2009 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The equivalent of pissing on someone's grave and he doesn't have a clue?

9/15/2009 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He doesn't deserve a dicks worth of privacy SCC. Out him.

9/15/2009 02:05:00 AM  
Blogger Johnny Law said...

Post that asshole's name. Screw him. His chain of command needs to know about his behavior as well.

9/15/2009 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guys name should be known to all of us. We need to know who and let us handle this asshole by having a continual shitfest on his home. I, as well as other police officers, don't want this asshole working by my side. It's getting harder to do the job we came to do without being disrespected by your own. Publish the name, show some balls.

9/15/2009 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

publish his name...what a disgrace

9/15/2009 02:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to thank BT 1614, second watch, for assisting me yesterday out on Irving Park RD. This is what being the police is about, helping, respecting, and taking care of your own. Again, I thank you brother in blue for assisting me in my situation.

The name of the person disrespecting the memorial should be released.

9/15/2009 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's too bad that we have a shithead like this on the job and pissing on the memorial. WTF were you thinking buddy? What are you going to do to make it up because your name will come out eventually.

9/15/2009 02:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Throw the book at this reprehensible sniveling cockroach! This slime mold covered asshat does not deserve to wear the uniform or the badge. Send him to the psych ward or jail and let someone else take care of this vile excuse of a human being.

9/15/2009 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

print his name and unit

9/15/2009 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do it old school and put this scumbags name on the a few bathroom walls and the word will get out

9/15/2009 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A chance to make amends?" How can he ? He should resign. Howevr if you publish his name he might be promoted.

9/15/2009 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a loser!!!

9/15/2009 03:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out the asshole. Sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing. "Our park" Not anymore. You are no longer one of "US"

Out him SCC

9/15/2009 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck That SCC!!! You need to do what's right and release this piece of shit's name. Every officer wearing blue has every right to know who this guy is.

9/15/2009 04:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Questions, questions.

Are you sure of the authenticity of the author? Reading it, it sounds like a copper, but hey, I'm just sayin! I mean, wouldn't a smart lawyer who is defending the ones who originally spray painted the Memorial, love to be able to read THIS STORY into the public record on at Br 42, ESPECIALLY since THIS COP was given a pass? Of course, that is already a possibility, now, if they are aware of SCC, and they somehow managed to "plant" this story.

Did the on-duty guy wish to back up his accusation? I guess NO, or the ANOV would have been written, right? Or did he want you to anonymously out the pisser?

My next thought is that if the on-duty guy intended to name names, and had enough balls to put his own name out there, as well, then let him have at it. But now the on-duty guy will be taken to task for writing ANOV's to others and not the cop, if the MSM picks up on this story, and that may already be a given, at this point.

In the end, the on-duty guy had the ability to do what was right the moment he stopped the jagoff, but he didn't. Once he chose not to take action, he probably should have left it alone right there, and not put the burden on SCC to ease his guilt. And now, its a test of YOUR credibility and resolve.

Yes, my friend! A dilemma, indeed.

9/15/2009 04:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unfucking believable.


Time on? Time on? Not enough time on to realize where he was or what he was doing? and THIS is the Police?
you have GOT to be joking.

9/15/2009 04:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Confirm the on-duty officer's assignment first then absolutely out the mf'er. PLEASE OUT HIM.

9/15/2009 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My biggest concern would be how do you protect the source of this information.

9/15/2009 05:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This goof couldn't walk another 100yards east and piss in the lake?

Sad!

However I've seen many coppers use poor judgement when drinking. I'm sure when sober he'll feel ashamed and humiliated enough. I'll forgive him. But can he forgive himself?

9/15/2009 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we can't police our own, we are *^#ked. How about his initials and unit of assignement?

9/15/2009 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the officer a chance to make his name public himself and to come forward and make a public apology to his co-workers, active and retired and allow him the chance to redeem himself by asking to be issued a deserved ANOV. Alcohol makes people do some pretty stupid things.

Without that, out the guy.

9/15/2009 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out that bastard. He obviously doesn't get it! His break was not getting a ticket. Let him face his peers!

9/15/2009 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publish it....fuck him. He doesn't deserve the badge or to call himself a chicago police officer.

9/15/2009 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now what did everyone expect, that putting a Police Memorial in an out of the way place would bring heeps of respect and goodwill? This city is full of police hating fools. I felt it was a bad idea to locate it there from the moment I heard of the location. This now will become the thing to do, go piss on the police memorial, ha ha ha.

Bad idea putting it there int he first place. Now what, does anyone expect the City to put a squad of police officers there round the clock to protect the memorial?

About the only thing that can be done now is to take some of the accumulated funds in the CPD Memorial and maybe throw in some of Phil Cline's steak and potatoes money and put a 10 foot high heavy duty iron fence around the whole thing, light it well from inside, and only allow access during hours when it can be patrolled and protected.

Otherwise it will be up to the membership to sign up on a volunteer basis to do patrol duties around the clock. Or, move the thing in total over to CPD HQ or the Academy, where it should have been in the first place.

9/15/2009 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give this assholes name and unit. Some of these mother f@#$#$# do not deserve to be the police and are like the criminals I lock up everyday.

9/15/2009 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!
YOU DONT NEED TO PUT HIS NAME OUT THERE SCC CAUSE IT WILL EVENTUALLY GET OUT AND THEN WE WILL ALL KNOW WHO THIS STUPID JAGOFF IGNORANT DISREPECTFUL DUMB FUCK "OFFICER" IS.

9/15/2009 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am upset you didn't write him a ticket or arrest him. Look, if he is going to disrespect you and talk back to you and pissed on our fallen brothers memorial jail is the only means. I have came to the conclusion, that if a off-duty cop is going to disrepect me while I am working I am going to give him no special treatment, especially pissing at the faillen memorial site. I am not going anywhere on this department for the last nine years and I don't need friends on this department.
Beware! I don't need fre

9/15/2009 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The PO manning the post should have dropped an ANOV on him at the least. Why cut this jerk some slack? In fact he should have arrested him and charged him with public indecency, disorderly and anything else he could think of. This offender's (I refuse to say officer) name should be made public and he should suffer the consequences that disclosure brings.

9/15/2009 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publish it please. This is exactly the type of useless non-police that would somehow rise through the ranks 'meritoriously'.

9/15/2009 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, as a 23 yr. vet, I say out the pr*ck. If he would piss on the Memorial to our fallen, he just as easily would p*ss on anyone he works with. The guys he works with deserve to know the type of man they are working with.

9/15/2009 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This a-hole should have been locked up! Also, why didn't the on duty copper call for more cars and start locking people up? WTF? You see people pissing on the memorial and you just ANOV them? That was absolutely the wrong decision.

9/15/2009 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hesitate to comment on this because I am not a police officer and this is your thing, but all I wanted to say is this is what you get when you choose a partially hidden out of the way location for a memorial. Anybody with half a brain (and I'm assuming that someone at the top made the choice) should have anticipated problems like this. Memorials should be clearly visible and out in front, not only to avoid shit like this but to allow all to see and be reminded and to give the memorial the props it deserves.

---not a cop

9/15/2009 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The officer is obviously a clown.

The location of the Memorial is terrible.

9/15/2009 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC the ANOVofficer should get a CR on that ass.

9/15/2009 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say you should front this guy. Put him on front street so we all know to keep our distance. If he can't respect our fallen, then he can't respect the living. I could care less if he was drunk or not. We want to know!

9/15/2009 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every copper in the Chicago land area needs to know this jag-offs name, WHAT"S HIS NAME? It's fuckin bullshit! This guy needs to be dealt with ASAP.

9/15/2009 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Contact the culprit and suggest a generous donation to the new baby of our recently departed officer A.V.

9/15/2009 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a perfect person for a merit spot.

9/15/2009 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This asshole needs to be outed!!!!! I personally wouldn't have let the dickhead go in the first place. I would have called for a supervisor and then locked him up. ANOV my ass!!!! I would have marked in the arrest report that the ass was uncooperative and said he would refuse to sign the ANOV.

I'm sorry this a bad joke. We need to out and eliminate our bad apples. This cannot be tolerated.

9/15/2009 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you know what? FUCK this punk making amends! Allowing his ignorant fucking ass to say he's sorry is exactly what the COURTS fucking do with the asshole that think if they pull out a bullshit "I'm sorry" that is all good.

FUCK THIS JAGOFF. He had the mindset to piss on our memorial, crying now because he was caught doesn't mean a fucking thing!

Again, FUCK THIS LITTLE PUNK. Let him be hammered to the grave for this bullshit, and on TOP of it all I wish that IAD got involved and cost this little fucker a month's pay for this disgracefull bullshit act.

9/15/2009 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whats his name please. Its your duty to give it to us as a sheep dog.

9/15/2009 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just drop the name to 35th st so they can be recruited for IAD.

9/15/2009 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Loyola 94 said...

Not a Cop.

SCC, you can't out the guy without at least emailing him. I assume your contacts would be able to get this guy's personal email or slide a note in his locker.

Give the guy a chance to respond, then flame his ass if the response is not sufficient.

A financial contribution to some relevant fund should be appropriate, as what my emotions would prefer to do is a crime.

I agree with your OUTRAGE, unless the story is total BS, you and your Brothers and Sisters need to keep your house clean of those who would defile it.

9/15/2009 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You hate to be a rat, but this is UNEXCUSEABLE!!!!! Some things you look the other way on, not this.

To keep it out of the public eye, (we should do our own housekeeping)why don't you start with a fax from, say a currency exchange, to that officers unit. This will let his so called brothers and sisters know what kind of piece of shit they are working along side. I am sure it will evolve and spread.

Sounds like the J/O should get everything that comes his way.

9/15/2009 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out this POS!

9/15/2009 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He should have been arrested, not ANOV'ed. I say out him!

9/15/2009 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote for putting his name out.

What a scum sucker.

9/15/2009 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous An Old Sergeant said...

We lost it a long time ago. I'm not sure when, but we lost it. I know I sound like a doddering old fool, but the time was when we stood united. Now, too many take the attitude, "I'm in it for me. I've got mine, so piss on you (literally)." Not all of us, mind you. Just too many.

9/15/2009 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Ironcrossed said...

It would be interesting to know, so that he can be treated accordingly.

Fuck him.

9/15/2009 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think the whole department should go to his home address and pee on it..or leave a dookee on the lawn. its only fair. another selfish prick on the department. maybe all the guys in his unit will call him ''pissboy'' from now on. i bet he blames the alcohol for his lapse of jugdement. '' sorry, i was buzzed and not thinking. hee hee''.

9/15/2009 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't publish anything because you cannot be sure of its accuracy. Plus, the moment you do you will be expected to start "outing" cops who are jagoffs on traffic stops, domestics, etc.

Stay above it all - cops know that there are plenty of assholes on and off the job. I am sure that everybody who works with the pisser knows what a jagoff he is. Somehow people like that just can't hide it.

9/15/2009 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous SCC Fan said...

Out him.

9/15/2009 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Post this guys name. Call him out man. Shame on him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/15/2009 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't print his name on the blog; that's not what your all about. We all will know the name of the officer in a couple of weeks anyway. Also, we have stars, not badges.

9/15/2009 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out him!!!! He is NOT one of us!!!
Off Duty or On Duty, I would have kicked his f#%&ing ass.

9/15/2009 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Name and unit need to be published. He deserves all that comes his way!!

9/15/2009 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't post it. Get a CR number.

9/15/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least post the unit he works in and time on the job. The name will get out.

9/15/2009 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

The dispatcher that was involved in the f'd up 101 has been ASSIGNED to the TRAINING DEPT!!!!
M-F days! Gets a great 5 day work schedule, (you know the holidays are right around the corner) It's in the CO book and was read out in the powerwatch r/c but not the 3rd watch! Bosses are frightened of us. We might have a question and they might have to answer it.
Can't have that happen.

9/15/2009 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't scumbag deserve a trial?

9/15/2009 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NAME HIM!!!!! iad or jfed must realize that the anov-writing cop can use discretion

9/15/2009 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more information. I read, "..lining himself up to piss." I don't think you can write an ANOV for lining up somewhere. The officer should be covered there and could always argue that we do have discretion in what action to take.

The CR is probably the best thing to do. Not having written an ANOV or made and arrest, it's still taking action internally.

In any event, this guy needs to be made aware of just what kind of bullshit behavior this is. He obviously doesn't get it. You don't piss on our dead. We have enough civilians that are more than willing to do that for us.

9/15/2009 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous HATER said...

HAVE THE MEMORIAL FOUNDATION DROP A LETTER TO THE OFFICER ASKING IF HE WOULD VOLUNTEER TO SCRUB DOWN THE WALLS AND CLEAN THE SITE UP FOR A FEW HOURS.

PUT IN QUOTATION THAT HE WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE OFFICER THAT WITNESSED THAT INCIDENT.

THE OFFICER THAT WITNESSED IT LET THAT SHIT SLIDE AND THEN DECIDES TO BITCH ON THE NET. SOUNDS LIKE THAT OATH HE TOOK IS JUST A NICE POEM TO LOOK AT.

THE LEAST HE SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS PUT IT ON A SGT.

I HEAR ALL SORTS OF MISSION DONE IN THE CITY MAY BE THE DOWNTOWN POLICE COULD HAVE A PISSER MISSION W/ A TACT TEAM AND EVERY ONE CAUGHT IS ARRESTED LOCKED UP AND CAN SIT IN THE PISS WHILE THE ARE PROCESSED. AND THEN HAVE J-FED ON THE NEW W/ THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LOCKED UP 4 PISSING. THAT WOULD PUT EVERYONE ON NOTICE.

U PISS ON THE MEMORIAL UR ASS IS GOIN TO LOCK UP(AND NOT 4 AND HOUR EITHER PUT A HOLD ON THEM).

THAT DISTRICTS IS NOT KNOWN 4 HAVING OFFICER THAT LOCK UP PEOPLE SO IM DISAPPOINTED W/ THE ASSHOLE OFFICER AND THE ANOV POLICE WHO CANT FIND THEIR CUFFS!!!

9/15/2009 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have requested the pod video that time and place

9/15/2009 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Gold Star family member I am outraged that no security is provided to the memorial park.

The site isn't exactly easy to move to a secure location as was the Hay Market statute.

This is a sign of the times now. There is a lot of news today about how society has changed for the worse.

" Boorish behavior is hardly new. Recent history has seen a steady parade of trash-talking athletes, uncouth rock stars and big-mouthed politicians.

But experts say it's getting worse. A potent mix of cultural shifts is reshaping our sense of decorum. The Internet, cable talk shows, reality TV and even the recession have reduced our collective inhibitions, ripping at the very fabric of civil discourse, said Frank Farley, a psychology professor at Temple University who studies trends in human behavior. "

By Jennifer Davies
San Diego Union-Tribune Staff Writer

9/15/2009 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can call me a JAGOFF if you want. But I would have place that POS under arrest and then let the higher ups deal with him. I can care less what others would think. Now if he was pissing any other place but there it would get a pass. But on the Memorial is out of the question.
What is the difference between some kids disrespecting it by spraying it with paint or someone pissing on it? To me they both DISRESPECTED IT.

Case Closed Out his ass now.

And if the officer that was there gets in trouble for not taking action , I will donate $250 to his missed pay.

9/15/2009 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is legit, the on duty copper should've pistol whipped the fuck outta the cocksucker, but given the number of times guys have been outed here only to have things debunked later, we gotta know for sure before we do anything. I'm not saying that I don't believe the on duty guy, it's a shame that it probably is true, given my own encounters with off duty coppers, but this is some serious shit, if we're right or wrong, as far as the blue shirt is concerned, he's done. If the off duty guy did what he's accused of, out him to his own guys in whatever buttnut unit he's in, if they don't handle it, then leave him to us, brass has nothing to do with this, this is our wall, and OUR issue to handle. One step at a time Brothers, let's be right.

GRAND CROSSING GUNSLINGER

9/15/2009 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Figure-You need armed guards 24-7 around Burke's house for a perceived threat from years ago--- but you can't post a few coppers to patrol the Memorial on concert days that bring in mega bucks for the city. Come on Commander CK, do the right thing. You always have as far as I'm concerned.

9/15/2009 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous PHIL CLINES NEPHEW said...

THE OFFFICER CAN OUT THE OFFICER BY PUTTING IN THE CONTACT CARD W/ THE INFO.


HE HAS HIS NAME AND WHAT OCCURRED JUST PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM HE TOOK ACTION.

AND I HAVE A FEELING HIS BOSSES TOLD HIM TO LEAVE THE RICH WHITE PEOPLE ALONE AND WRITE THEM SILLY ANOVS.

THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WEAK AS PUPPY SHIT!

9/15/2009 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the type of respect people have for us. It got worst as this moron Superintendent Jodi Weis and his people began taking power. Being the police, truly working with the community and gaining the respect of the polce is not gained by force. We the troops hear how you joke about demoting our bosses like Cuello and Dugan back to Lieutenant. How do you think that makes all of us feel when we hear shit like that. Your own office people who let that shit out don't like it. How about getting rid of your Federal buddies that don't know shit and your Cheif of Staff who has brought more embarassment on you than you could even bring yourself. You see how poor of choices you made in Exempt members, we mean the top members. Did you consult with ANY past Superitnendents who have 100's of years of experience. They were here for a reason. You go through the ranks for a reason.

How can you continually promote and push up people who have had no grass roots experience. How can you promote people from 016, 018, 001 and Units? What are you thinking. This shit is not working because since they have no foundation in dealing with chaos, real crime, reacl community people, political bullshit and juvenile crime, they really don't know what the fuck to do! Have the steroids gone to your head?

Mayor Daley, how many examples of incomptetence and chaos do you need. This guy was washed out a long time ago!

9/15/2009 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's more than enough in the write up to convince me that this fuckhead knew exactly what he was doing at the time. Fuck him. He'll no doubt be in contact with you cert shortly I would imagine, I hope you don't go and buy his bull shit story SCC. Your blog is not only read by me, but appreciated and respected by me and countless others just like me. I sincerely hope you won't let us down.

9/15/2009 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I'm concerned the PO should be out of whatever unit he is in. I doubt seriously that his clout will not back him on this major debacle. If he does- he's a bigger POS than Mr. Pissy.Time to go back to the street and deal with the animals that you have evolved into, JFED should get to the bottom of this quick before this POS gets the shit beat out of him. We all know someone personally that's paid the ultimate sacrifice and graces that wall.

9/15/2009 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Almost never post anything on here SCC but to tell you the truth, we're pissed and shit on enough as it is. How dare he do the same to our fallen at their memorial! Name please.

9/15/2009 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

List the name so we know who this person is and to stay away from them.

9/15/2009 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RepublicanCowboy said...

We have so many slack ass piece of shit that destroy our imagine, the blue line DOES NOT APPLY!!! Professional courtesy is only given to PROFESSIONALS.

__________________________________

I agree that this DOES NOT cross the blue line. And that PROFESSIONAL COURTESY is only for PROFESSIONALS

9/15/2009 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

SCC, I know your right in not putting this assholes name in, and it took a lot of restraint. I'd hate to see that door opened and well, we won't go there.
But I'm sure that it will eventually be known as it should cause I believe that this asshole has some real deep seeded problems and I sure wouldn't want to work with him and I know he isn't capable of watching my back either.
(though I have probably worked with some of his buddies)
There's a lot of old school that will never be forgotten, nor should it.

9/15/2009 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you name him on the blog, how could iad hammer the copper who witnessed it? keep the witness confidential.

9/15/2009 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You fucked yourselves for NOT putting cuffs on him!! Ya see....protecting your own!! Cut it out!! If they are doing wrong, then they are doing wrong. Do your job!!

9/15/2009 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are plenty of ways the on-duty copper could have exposed this asshole!! He or she chose the path of least resistance and placed the burden on YOUR shoulders SCC. That was a pussy move. This jagoff who decides to piss anywhere near OUR memorial should be publically flogged. Remember the young lad in south america who spray painted and he was to be caned! What a complete low life! Hey office....next time just lock up this cock-sucker!! Maybe he was an exempt!!

9/15/2009 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,
As tempting as it is to out him, you know the problems posting unconfirmed accusations on a public blog could cause.

"I don't like him or her, so I'm gonna send something nasty about them and see if SCC doesn't run with it."

The accusing Officer shouldn't have given dipshit a pass or an ANOV. He needs to put a CR on his stupid ass. If dipshit has no respect for our Fallen, why should you have any for him?

9/15/2009 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

The dispatcher that was involved in the f'd up 101 has been ASSIGNED to the TRAINING DEPT!!!!
M-F days! Gets a great 5 day work schedule, (you know the holidays are right around the corner) It's in the CO book and was read out in the powerwatch r/c but not the 3rd watch! Bosses are frightened of us. We might have a question and they might have to answer it.
Can't have that happen.

9/15/2009 08:18:00 AM

Sounds like he is there for retraining, so it is apparent he is not going to be fired. Get a copy of the announcement in the c/o book and post it on the blog.

9/15/2009 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

officers' initials, units, beats, watches, etc. appear on this blog all the time.

9/15/2009 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

Hey on second thought the more I think about it, I'm not sure that it is what it's claimed to be. With some, running to a boss every time they can to cry about this PO or that one, I guess I'd want to know for sure that it is a legit beef.
I guess from most of the posts I just read, we'd all know who the PO was because he'd have two black eyes, at the least...

9/15/2009 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your at 115 posts so far and I just can't read them all . Just to much B.S. SCC everyone is calling for you to post this guys name & get CR # Well if you do I'm sure that JFED will get another CR # on the copper that failed to act on this matter.

9/15/2009 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Ro said...

WTF!!! Is nothing sacred with us? If we don't have respect for ourselves, how do we expect the public to respect us? If this incident is true, what a sad state of affairs..Is morale that low?????

9/15/2009 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, post his name...Other names and pictures have been here, including mine. I would like to call this guy...

9/15/2009 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

print this jagoffs name, he is a piece of shit, and doesnt deserve to wear that badge, what a lowlife, if other cop gets jammed..sorry, wasnt intentional but if anyone, even a cop talked to me that way after pissing on our sacred memorial to our fallen warriors, he would of gotten the anov, and if he smarted off more, jail. FUCK HIM.

9/15/2009 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it can be verified, then out him, but maybe not publicly on the blog. Let the name slip out. Just make sure this accusation is 100% truthful and not someone pissed off and trying to give someone else a bad name. This accusation will never leave an officer for the remainder of his life in Chicago. Not just his career as a Chicago Police Officer.

9/15/2009 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stay above it all - cops know that there are plenty of assholes on and off the job. I am sure that everybody who works with the pisser knows what a jagoff he is. Somehow people like that just can't hide it."

I completely agree. This guy is a prick. If he shows this much disrespect off the job, what type of work is he doing on the job? Somewhere down the line karma will bite the bitch in the ass. No need to out him, his reputation probably speaks for itself.

9/15/2009 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department is a reflection of the society which we police.

A society of instant gratification,self promotion,lack of considertion,lack of patience,lack of self control,and a extreme lack of respect for ones fellow man.

A society that lives off reality shows

A generation that thinks life has a reset button

There is no restart,no do over.

You live by your actions which ultimately gives you your label, YOU are accountable.

That was how it was when I grew up. You can have respect for yourself or what you hold dear without disrespecting others.

The demise of this department is not due to its own existence, its due to the decline of civilization as a whole.

You can feel it

Everybody is a hard ass, everybody wants it all(which is fine) but without earning it.

Everybody wants what they feel is owed them.

No one wants to follow the rules.

Now does that sound like this department or society as a whole?

9/15/2009 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"...I felt it was a bad idea to locate it there from the moment I heard of the location. This now will become the thing to do, go piss on the police memorial, ha ha ha."

"...move the thing in total over to CPD HQ or the Academy, where it should have been in the first place."

9/15/2009 06:10:00 AM


THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME REASON WHY THE HAYMARKET STATUE IS AT THE ACADEMY.

9/15/2009 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed the disgrace within 35th and Michigan, other than the hidden PO's? Next time anyone notices look at the memorial of fallen officers and their badge. Name tags have fallen from the props, badges cocked, enough bugs to give one flashbacks of Cabrini Green within the "secure" glass.
Why the outrage over a man pissing on the memorial when PO's and bosses daily pass a memorial in disrepair without any thought or concern.
SCC you done did right by God.

9/15/2009 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man up bitch, contact SCC now and tell your side of the story.

9/15/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT

The dispatcher that was involved in the f'd up 10-1 has been ASSIGNED to the TRAINING DEPT!!!!
M-F days! Gets a great 5 day work schedule, (you know the holidays are right around the corner) It's in the CO book and was read out in the powerwatch r/c but not the 3rd watch! Bosses are frightened of us. We might have a question and they might have to answer it.
Can't have that happen.

9/15/2009 08:18:00 AM


THIS IS ANOTHER POS WHO NEEDS TO BE OUTTED!!!!!!!

STRANDS A COPPER BEING SHOT AT WHO CALLS 911 WITH A 10-1.

BRAGS ABOUT HOW HEAVY HE IS AND HOW HE WON'T BE DISCIPLINED.

IS REWARDED WITH A NICE GIG AT WORK AND, AS YET, NO DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

9/15/2009 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kudos to the guy who thought to go and check out the memorial. I also saw a couple of mounted guys go through there. Day in and day out the districts are undermanned, it's no surprise that this event would be too. There were also a group of guys and a boss handling a seriously abusive drunk woman on the east side of the stadium. I thought they showed amazing restraint and they seemed to want to give her every opportunity to go home for the night, but I'm not sure of the outcome. I wrote yesterday about the sweet Crown Vics i saw parked all over the place (Police vehicles, but with civie plates) most of them did not seem to be there in any official capacity other than to score primo parking. To me it seems like with such a large event that it wouldn't hurt to have at least a few hundred urinals outside the event with the costs charged to the promoter. I didn't drink at the show because I knew it would be a long walk out of there. (It took me an hour to get to Michigan avenue.)

9/15/2009 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Civilian Post---

His name is [deleted], assigned to [deleted] and has [deleted] years on. Posting this info would have been worse than an official inquiry by IAD or ANOV (I don't know what that is), and he deserves the wrath of everyone not the least of which is police families of the fallen.

But remember, i am a civilian supporter, and think about how many non-supporters are out there. Before you throw him to the wolves,

He should be sober enough at this point to seek out the Patrolman and apologize for being such a douchebag, but how does he apologize to everyone, somethings are so beyond that, like pissing on sacred ground, that he just would never be able to.

9/15/2009 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a cop from the burbs and this makes me sick. I know 1 of the guys on the wall and to think a fellow CPD guy would do this. It shows this person has no class

9/15/2009 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

out him. the po will be fine, he took action and prevented the douchebag from urinating. Not trying to play monday morning quarterback, but perhaps the cuffs should have come out on the whole lot of em.... tickets dont discourage. bracelets tend to have more of an impact.

9/15/2009 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes, you have to use your smarts. Sometimes, you have to use your balls. The on-duty officer had two ways to go, courtesy or ordinance enforcement, with only a few moments to decide between the two. This decision is something we make everyday with citizens other than police officers while we are on-duty. Unfortunately, the on-duty officer was going to be lambasted either way he chose to go, but, had he decided on enforcement and the "offending" officer refused to identify himself and just walked away, what would you have the on-duty officer do next? Wrestle with him to make a physical arrest? Why? Walk a mile in the on-duty officer's shoes. Be honest. All of you speaking with such bravado would have wussied out and you know it. Nobody worthy of this job is the kind of person that "wants" to be the "one" to lock up another copper for an ordinance violation. The on-duty officer's exercise of discretion was a wise move.

9/15/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our worst enemy is from within....

We are an over ripened fruit that will spoil from inside out...

At the point of impending war, the battle will be lost without sound or sight... for we are the enemy..

Iraq/ Afghan Vet

9/15/2009 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agree that to out this guy will only hurt the officer who brought this to SCC's attention.

Would like to point out that there are clues, although there is not a lot to go on, in that the jagoff claimed to have worked with Eric Lee and another fallen officer.

Eric was:
-- a tact officer
-- in Englewood
-- killed in August 2001.

If the goof really worked with him, that has to reduce the number of possible suspects somewhat. Start there.

-- Friend of another Fallen Officer

9/15/2009 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way gossip spreads in this dept, beleive me, we ALL will know his name soon enough. Then he best leave the job!

9/15/2009 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verify the accuracy of the author's encounter; if valid; initiate a Log#, ; view any and all surviellance video and if supported; wage a heavy penalty on this fellow copper who has defiled the symbol of our brethren's bravery.

9/15/2009 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC; I applaude your decision not to "out" the cum pot. In doing so you may endanger him or his family. We do not need our brothers to undertake vigilantism. What we need it for this errant officer to make his act of contrition Department wide.

9/15/2009 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I smell a rat...could this be some sort of J-Fed trap to find out who SCC is?

If this story is true, then sooner or later, unless the witness is harder than I can imaging, and can sleep with this, it will leak out, and there might be some...shall we say informal justice.

I would suggest the guilty party quietly resign and move far away very soon.

God help us all.

9/15/2009 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This a-hole should have been locked up! Also, why didn't the on duty copper call for more cars and start locking people up? WTF? You see people pissing on the memorial and you just ANOV them? That was absolutely the wrong decision.

9/15/2009 06:42:00 AM

There were 60-70 thousand concert goers and we were undermanned (maybe 50 of us assigned to the venue; horses, a couple tact teams and some bike guys) Also, for most of both nights most attention was given to the North end, trying to keep the drunks from walking on LSD... I would say don't blame the P.O. on this, blame the department for not having more working the event and GSP.

9/15/2009 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this sounds like BS. Maybe the officer is just trying to stir something up within the ranks. I find it hard to believe a P.O. would do this to fellow fallen officers.

9/15/2009 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we try to give a courtesy to fellow Officers, family, and so on, it is NOT a right. Too many think we have to give plays all the time because we have to. BS, whether its a coppers kid with a pistol, or a copper urinating on any memorial, let alone ours, things need to be done. These are the same jerks that sully our reputation in the long run. He should have been ANOVed, a Complaint Registered, ans so on. I would be willing to bet he is someones political flunkie.

9/15/2009 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have a solution. remember the movie grand torino with clint? make this dork call fat phil and make a public apology to all the goldstar families. also, let him work off his debt to them/us by helping these families on his next furlo. i think thats fair...hey it was good enough for clint!

9/15/2009 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

name him SCC he is not the police,and when you do the guys in his unit/district could have a par form ready and checked resigned as he signs it nothing but a fucking punk!

9/15/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know about "requesting to work at the memorial" part. Shows and games are usually handled by the 1st Dist. TAC and the 105 car. There's no requesting to be assigned there that I know of. TAC usually is in inside and in the parking lots. The crowd afterwards is usally handled by the Park Dist. people plus 105 and a Sgt. That's about the extent of it.

9/15/2009 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To everyone who think's that the P.O. should have cited the off duty P.O. you must have little time on the job. Half the Dept would call him a rat and he would be treated as such. If in fact an off duty P.O. urinated on the memorial wall,all the on duty P.O. has to do is tell a couple of people what happened and word will pass. Before we had computer's and e-mail we would just pass the name along. Within 24 hrs half the city would know about it. Going to the brass with this seem's like we can't deal with our own. The real Police would know what to do. Get a clue.

9/15/2009 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger OLD*6970 said...

OK SCC, YOU DID'T POST MY COMMENT...
YOUR BLOG, BUT I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY TODAY...
MY FRIENDS NAME IS ON THE MEMORIAL*
THE WORLD SHOULD KNOW OF THIS PUNK
AND HIS ACTION...HE IS A DISGRACE
TO THE UNIFORM AND HUMANKIND...

9/15/2009 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More than likely J-fed knows who the P.O. is that wa assigned to the memorial,(it's just a matter of checking the sheets ,or asking the exempts), so the trouble is probably headed his way as we speak.
You should out the piece of shit "officer"so that his early retirement can be arranged.
And wish him well on his new career,blowing bums for beer money!!

9/15/2009 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IMO the cop that let him off the hook on the public urination charge is the guy you should be pissed at. Pun intended.

9/15/2009 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say DO NOT post it. He knows who he is and this post is surely enough to shame him into sobriety for quite some time. Be a leader and show other cops how NOT to snitch. If the working copper that happened upon this numbskull was able to hold his temper surely you can.

9/15/2009 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of us are police and detectives.

How about some clues regarding the douche bag that wouldn't necessarily name him but allow us to figure it out.

And how is the on-duty officer gonna get jammed up? He gave the asshole a break. He has already identified himself by saying that he volunteered to patrol the memorial.

Even the dumb fucks in IAD will be able to figue out who he is.

Secondly, the department will do NOTHING to the pisser. That should be left to us. If the department asks the on-duty P.O. why he didn't do anything he can just say that he made it up. It never happended.

9/15/2009 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What made me sicker is that claims to have worked with Eric Lee and another officer whose name is on the wall"

Just from that statement maybe we can figure out who this jerk is.

9/15/2009 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC: It looks like I'm a little late reading this blog, and I always start at the top. I've read about 20 comments, and will finish after this post, so I don't know if you ended up outting the SOB or not. Having said that, I think that in making the decision to out him or not, It comes down to what you are willing to live with. We don't know who you are, and in the end, its not our conscience that will eat at us the rest of our lives, but you have to look at yourself in the mirror everyday. Think it through. 10 years from now are you going to be comfortable with knowing that you had the opportunity, and either did or did not hold someone accountable to those of us who take pride in this Department, by putting is name out so that everyone knows who he is.

Other side of the coin: Unless you are 1000% positive that the story is true and that it really is that person, if you choose to put his name out, and it's not true and can't be proven, you run the risk of a liable lawsuit.

9/15/2009 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Sir Robert Peel said...

I also leaned immediately to outing the idiot. However...after further review.

Certainly this pissing scum bucket works with some real coppers who 'get it' and can be trusted. Have a word with them.

Then, a nice little chat about the incident between these officers and the dork might be in order. It won't make up for the desecration, but give him a chance to to admit he was a drunken asshole, and deserves an ass kicking. (I am NOT advocating they kick his ass)

If his attitude continues, out the dickweed, get a CR and let the shunning begin.

9/15/2009 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My dad's name is on that wall. I think you should give the name of the police officer up.

9/15/2009 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Post the name said...

The officer didn't fail to take police action he made his presence known, addressed the issue, and then used discretion.

I say POST THE NAME. If the officer showed no regard or respect for the memorial and conducted himself as if he was doing no wrong, then he shouldn't be concerned about the post.

9/15/2009 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

Even in death, the community desecrates our peace officers.

Who is running the memorial? Because I told Sgt M when it was being built that this was a problem in some of the other states.

he told me that there would be camera(s) as well as patrol.

But shouldn't we have some ordinace or similiar law making this type of problems a serious misdemeanor or felony?????????
Any lawyers here?

9/15/2009 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have tobe the example and the voice for the fallen. They no longer can speak for themselves in this life. If we cannot make an example of the wrong doing of others including P.O.'s who disgrace our fallen then we haven't done our JOB! Next time the arrest should be made or the CR given...not to decide IS to decide..learn from this mistake officers. Signed, From one of Chicago's Finest

9/15/2009 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CPD Memorial should have a sharp, uniformed officer (Full Formal Dress) assigned to guard it 24 hours a day...just like at the tomb of the unknown soldier. Why not? That would stop ALL the bs. No slakers, I mean some serious, sharp police officers. Do the formal man to man relief, the whole 9 yards.

9/15/2009 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that no information be given out. We all know individuals not worth of the title.

9/15/2009 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, It'd be an embarrassment for this blog not to release his information. As a Chicago police officer, I've read this blog for over a year and continually notice -- both through your official posts and the accompanying user comments -- that the rank and file is tired of cops covering for those who abuse their position. Well, here is your opportunity to do right.

And please, the excuses you listed are ridiculous. If the original officer didn't want the possible scorn attached with failing to report the offending P.O., then he shouldn't have come forward and given his name.

9/15/2009 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I think about it, this is typical of some of the useless patrol officers on this job. They bullshit their way out of taking the necessary action on a job, then you get called when the shit escalates and you have to take it to the next level, when had he done what he was supposed to in first place, it would be over with. I say out the on duty officer too.

9/15/2009 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter what we're doing or where we are, we are held to a higher standard. It's called policing our own.
Don't make the rest of us look bad just because you're an idiot. And the rest of us should take the time and make the effort to help each other stay in line. Something like the military. I'm tired of be ashamed of wearing the uniform or telling anyone that I am a Chicago Police Officer. It's time to be proud. It's time to take Pride. It's time to get off our asses and do something make us the best damn department nationwide.
Out that fuck and he'll be corrected.

9/15/2009 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy is an asshole, no doubt about it. But if you post his name, you might be on the hook for some type of slander. No police action was taken against him to back the story, and someone could easily make a case for damages as a result of the hostile work environment this could create. Talk to some lawyer friends first.

9/15/2009 12:48:00 AM

I agree with this post.........
Let it go, I'm sure the asshole shows his colors in other ways and makes it obvious he's an asshole/

9/15/2009 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disgusting if true, but could be a "he said", "she said". Great way to get back at someone if you hold a grudge against him. Am skeptical about chain of events.
Rare for on duty police to have "conversations" with offenders.
Think your very witty, thoughtful and successful blog could turn into a string of BS Stories,Posts and Rumors pitting cop against cop.
And if something "bad" happened to the offender or his family, could you be liable?
I know this comment will not be popular, but it's good to see the
troops can unite when the honor of fallen policeofficers is at stake.

9/15/2009 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelieveable...so it seems.

From 30+ years experience I've seen cops from all aspects -- good, bad, excellent, corrupt, honest, book-smart but no common sense, moral, womanizers, you name it. But none would publicly piss on the memory of another officer, period.

Not sure about ratting the guy out yet. I think the information needs to be confirmed and verified plus I have some sympathy for the cop on the scene caught in a "square peg in a round hole" predicament.

9/15/2009 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outing this dude pretending to be part of this fraternity is a bad idea hence the word fraternity or the idea thereof. Lets not pass the buck on this one to supervisors or IAD. This type of event/situation should be taken care of in house. When we (POs) mess up the first thing we should not do is turn around and start turning each other in this should be left in our hands to deal with because nowadays so few things are. Sounds like he needs to be physically chastised.

9/15/2009 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering, if the On Duty cop wrote the dickhead and ANOV for pissing, would everyone still want to know the name of the individual? More than likely they would be calling for blood and the name of the On Duty guy for writing him? IF the story is true, then I think he should have wrote the dickhead one. The big word being "IF". As we all know there are always 2 sides to every story.

9/15/2009 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would it be a C.R. to the on-duty officer ? When you are outnumbered due to lack of manpower, you have to take a tactical approach when dealing with an offender. If anyone deserves a C.R.# (and a beating) it is the off-duty drunken fool who has the audacity to piss where the names of our fallen and forever inscribed. The on-duty did the right thing. Is he gonna fight with someone by himself to write an A.N.O.V. while numerous onlookers are there and may throw a free shot on the copper due to strength and anonymity and most likely will not help and it would take a few minutes for the rest of the on-duty police to get to him to help. I don't remember it being said that he intentionally gave the asshole a free pass, discretion sometimes is the better part of valor. Maybe S.C.C., you can look into the general orders into the discretion used by the on-duty. If we have discretion for parkers and movers...does that apply to A.N.O.V.'s also ? I have to agree with almost everyone else here that says,"out the mother fucker"!

9/15/2009 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the P.O. wouldve done anything other than giving dummy a pass everyone on here would be beefing oh what a jagoff why would you do that to another copper.

9/15/2009 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well did the WASTE OF SKIN actually piss? or did he just line up to piss and then didn't after the Officer confronted him? if he never pissed then why would the Officer issue an ANOV or make a physical arrest? if this is the case, then the Officer is free from receiving any type of beefs from IAD or jfed. DO IT! POST THIS JAGOFF'S NAME!

9/15/2009 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give his unit
Give his shift
Find out his day off group
and let him sweat out being outed
then kaboom....piss on him

9/15/2009 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think everyone is missing an important point here: Who in their right mind would attend a U2 concert?

Bono is a leftwing pacifist anti-American. If any of you bought a ticket you ought to be ashamed for putting money in his poocket.

9/15/2009 04:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...IAD and J-Fed are going to hammer the copper who didn't take police action. There is not one iota of doubt in our mind..."

Sorry SCC, a quasi-criminal offense does NOT require any police action beyond verbal direction/compliance. Otherwise next time I'm pulling a CR on every boss on scene who allows the petty bullsh*t drinking, weed, etc to go on during Bud Billiken.

9/15/2009 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, at this point it probably would not be too hard to find out what officer was assigned to the memorial that night-he himself stated he requested to be. I had initially thought of them saying something about him not taking action as well.

9/15/2009 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous RepublicanCowboy said...

I do see all your points, good or bad. Now that being said, the copper working the memorial is already outed to the dept.. If he was essentially the only person working, there is a record of that assignment. Discretion is an option we have on this job, if he chose to cut him a break for some reason, that was his choice.

9/15/2009 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHICAGO'S FINEST THISIS WHAT WE ARE HIRING TODAY!!! EVERBODY PASSES REGARDLESS OF PERFORMANCE=JOB FOR LIFE HEY FUK U U DUMBASSES THAT FOLLOW THE RULES the brass doesnt care either get a clue

9/15/2009 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I passed by after the show on Sunday evening for an etching of Alejandro Valadez (dear friend) and saw people urinating and smoking weed. I told the nearest officer and he kind of shrugged it off. Dalm shame, I was nearly in tears after that.

9/15/2009 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some old time old school coppers, like Northside perhaps, should pay this officer a visit and take him for a walk over to the Honored Star case and describe first hand what the former owners of some of those stars were like when they walked the earth and what it was like the day they died and tell this goof in extreme detail what they did to get their names inscribed on that granite wall.

Talk to him until the tears are flowing and he takes it upon himself to try to make it right. If this is done properly that officer will become an exemplary stand up officer the remainder of his career and will never forget that talking to.

Handled wrong and the guy might eat the gun. Something like this can make or break a career or a life. It was stupid to do but don't compound a senseless and careless act by being even partly responsible for another self inflicted tragedy.

A good talking to is called for, maybe even a trip behind the woodshed but most of all, done thoughtfully, carefully and in PRIVATE and then never mentioned again.

In my humble opinion.

9/15/2009 05:20:00 PM  

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