Friday, September 17, 2010

CAPS Dead Again

It lives, it dies, it gets a reprieve, Shortshanks says, "Maybe not"
  • Mayor Daley said Thursday he wants to take the police out of community policing to put 200 more officers on the street.

    Daley said Chicago’s Alternative Policing Strategy, known as CAPS, was conceived as a civilian-run program in the 1990s but now involves many more uniformed officers than was originally intended.

    “Over 200 police officers or more were assigned to CAPS over years — lieutenants and sergeants and patrolmen. In some districts, they had 8 to 10 or 12 people assigned to CAPS. . . . All the sudden, a civilian thing . . . went to a Police Department [program]. That was not the concept,” the mayor said.

  • In light of that shortage, which triggered a police protest this week, Holt said the move makes sense.

    “The citizens have spoken. They have complained about not enough police presence. They want more police presence in their neighborhoods,” Holt said.

    [...] Critics contend the program is being decimated. Holt denied that.

Decimated means one-in-ten officers are being cut out. This is more like six or eight out of ten, so "decimation" is an understatement.

Regardless, we are unable to currently afford the previous CAPS luxuries.

A question though - seeing as how J-Fled and Shortshanks are so eager to put more officers on street duty, doesn't that imply that crime is out of control? That they are losing or have lost control of the streets? They can't have it both ways. Or maybe they can until there's a massive upheaval in the ranks of the city council. It's promising to be an interesting campaign season.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get rid of CAPS and save salaries like the civilians assigned there as directors, etc...that crazy Beth Ford makes over 100K a year out of our budget. Get rid of her AND the rest of the civilian crew and save about a million

9/17/2010 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS, put a fork or stake in it. It's dead.

9/17/2010 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK lets save the city some money! 1 put the CAPS people back on the street, 2 district Mgr,s eithier get rid of them or get rid of the commanders, why do we need both. I thought the commander was the MGR of the district. I just saved the city millions, maybe they will give me 1 of those high paying jobs. just a thought!

9/17/2010 01:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Peter Snarl said...

Guess yall fools did'nt my dam memo
CAPS ain't dead till I says so!
Don't make me have to rob you taxpayin fools...fo real.

9/17/2010 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Peter Snarl said...

There's been rumors spreading that some of you cops are saying CAPS means...Can't Always Please Suckahs.
I better not hear of it, or I'll open up sum Channel 5 on you. Fo real.

9/17/2010 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell is A/3 Tact teams getting called out to 025 for the craziness??? Isn't it enough they are sending cars to 008 every night? Before any of you tough "west side" guys, or guys that live in 016, start talking shit! Area 3 is now fighting the beast just as bad, and quite a few police families still live here!

9/17/2010 03:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley's deciding police deployment? way to go Weis, can't even pull cops from caps!!!! Moron.

9/17/2010 03:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait to see all the CAPS dollies back on the street. They're probably going to need retraining!

9/17/2010 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State's Attorney's Office should also get rid of Community Prosecution Units - a CAPS stepchild. A useless duplication of effort - cases easily handled in the Branch courts - lots of money saved.

9/17/2010 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh shit! Those clout caps fucks now will phone call or clout themselves onto my beat car! Dammit to hell! I thought I was safe on a beat car. Now my lousy beat car on days is suddenly desirable. Miserable clout bastards.

9/17/2010 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, They can free up 50 Sergeants by putting CAPS under the District Mangers. Now EVERYONE would see how useless they really are!
It would be putting the 'citizen connection' back in CAPS.

9/17/2010 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was by Kennedy high school yesterday, just like other high schools the animals are acting up everywhere! 3 separate incidents, want a solution STOP BUSING THESE JAGOFFS HERE! WOULD SAVE MILLIONS AND LET THE ANIOMALS FUCK UP THEIR AREAS! We have a weak alderman in the 23rd ward obviously!

9/17/2010 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bet there's CAPS officers twisting knees and backs in the past few days all over this city.

---not a cop

9/17/2010 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

District managers make Lt's pay, for what?

9/17/2010 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, guess who will pick up some or all the crap CAPS deals with. Most likely the watch. Have to be careful what you hope for. They wont kill CAPS, just most of the office.

9/17/2010 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Sgt. Saunders said...

To 3:05 qam-
The answer to your question is because the current managment team in 025 doesn't know how to take care of business in 025 and make sure these little uprisings are quashed. Then factor into the equation that they transferred a well repsected and knowlegable Captain who refused to backdown from the newsmedia a few years ago when they tried to take over the station during the Abatte debacle and you can see why you were sent to 025. In case you still don't understand, here's a clue. 014 experienced NO trouble during Mexican Independence Day. 025 did. Where is that Captain? Get it?

9/17/2010 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We still have plenty of money and police if eddy Burke can have a police escort for an imaginary threat ska look at me I'm important

9/17/2010 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Each area only needs on Lt to assist at commander Svu and Rbt lts are a waste on manpower and a company car

9/17/2010 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have plenty of police if the city won't recinde the 63 retirement age

9/17/2010 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its all bullshit. lots of caps people going to other cush spots.question...with CAPS gone..where will the aldermen sent eveyone for help?

9/17/2010 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

district commanders that had more than 6 caps officers and allowed beat cars to patrol as 1 man units should be dumped immediately

couldn't holt run caps for det pay

get rid of district commanders and keep district managers
commanders are draining our pension

9/17/2010 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Putting CAPS people back on the street will accomplish nothing as far as what is necessary to fully staff all beat cars. There are few days where those extra 5 cops will every be working at the same time, and 5 more cops ain't shit.

And as far as what the department can "afford" in terms of CAPS, you have no idea where any of that money comes from but it's nice to say to suit your point.

Some folks just can't get over the fact that the citizens dictate how they want to be policed, not the police. While you may feel that the SCC opinion has some kind of "steam" behind it so you all believe you can now dictate policy to management, you're wrong. In the end, it will be which citizens/aldermen/civic groups/religious groups get involved and tell Daley they want to deal directly with a police officer rather than a civilian whom no beat officer will ever pay attention to.

If you think you hate CAPS now, wait until some dribbling little civilian sends you a note that YOU have to go to the alderman's office and listen to him dictate to YOU what you're going to do and how you'l do it.

Or maybe remember that all your bitching about anyone NOT assigned to your "trenches" earned you the right to be required to appear at civic functions during days & afternoons and have contact and discuss current events with the public. What's that? You're not gonna do it? Maybe not, for about a week. Then your DC is gonna get wind that the "watch" ain't doing what the aldermen & citizens want and you'll then be ordered to go do it.

Then those in CAPS can sit back and laugh while you complain even more how "this ain't police work".

Police work as YOU see it.

9/17/2010 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The article does not state there is also a "Chief" who in charge of the CAPS Program who makes over $170,000 @ year.

A FUCKING WASTE of taxpayers money AND these exempts are destoying our pensions.

9/17/2010 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah why are they sending all the resources from Area Three all over the City? There are growing concerns from the highest tax paying citizens from Area Three about the diminished police protection in the neighborhoods.

9/17/2010 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only personnel that want CAPS are the personnel assigned to CAPS. It is not effective. I could see having a couple officers assigned to the Senior Citizens Office. They are very helpful in some districts. Other than that, reassign them back to the street.

9/17/2010 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you notice, daley and Holt have been handling all the press in this CAPS debacle. J-FLED has been advised to stay out of it. They are afraid that the negative press will summon immediate outcries for his departure. He has a contract and he has to fulfill its terms or he could be sued for breach of contract by the next administration. He will quietly finish out his time, then be sent on his way. He may do a couple of small good things for the officers, so he can put a positive spin on his resume. Signed: 5th Floor Insider

9/17/2010 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell is A/3 Tact teams getting called out to 025 for the craziness??? Isn't it enough they are sending cars to 008 every night? Before any of you tough "west side" guys, or guys that live in 016, start talking shit! Area 3 is now fighting the beast just as bad, and quite a few police families still live here!


calm down bro.........

9/17/2010 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are many officers on disability who could work CAPS and deployed as light duty. They are not catastrophic and if Mullen could run for Alderman and operate an applesauce business, 95% of the officers on disability including occupational can man the CAPS. Time to restructure the pension board requirements for disabled officers and give them light duty jobs.

9/17/2010 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is if Weis goes, then his "pet unit" MSF is going with him. He keeps reminding everyone at 35th that he recreated the disbanded S.O.S. News flash Jody...a city-wide unit like MSF has been around much longer than S.O.S. All you did was give it a different name. GFY!

-old Task Force guy

9/17/2010 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS-Complaints About Police Service

9/17/2010 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, lets do a little math. 019 has two CAPS Lts, 2 CAPS Sgts and 3 POs on the 2nd watch and 3 POs on the third watch. Thats a total of 10 officers total. They are hardly, (if ever) observed doing what one could consider police work (unless of course you consider hiding donated pop in the secret closet police work). CAPS meetings normally have more POs than citizens, the one lt (dilbert) isnt really a CAPS lt but kind of is, but not really and aside from assigning lockers does absolutely nothing! So you have 8 hours in a CAPS work day. Times that by 10 and you have 80 man hours being wasted a day in the fighting 019 alone. Multiply that by 25 districts (where in certain districts 10 is certainly a conservative number of CAPS people) and you get 2000 wasted man hours a day! THATS IN A SINGLE DAY!!! Say the average copper makes around $32 an hour and you are seeing CAPS waste $64,000 for every day of operation!!! And finally, multiplied by 180 day work year and CAPS wastes..well, lets just say CAPS wastes a WHOLE LOTTA MONEY!!! It'll be glad to see more bodies in uniform, but Im sure the people taking care of people will come up with some new super secret spots for these people (like donated pop inventory officer to over see the secret closet). Remember, you dont get into the CAPS office without having a phone call or two. Look for new positions to be opening up in districts near you with spots "to be filled at the discretion of the district commander". Afterall, it's the Chicago way!

9/17/2010 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say good riddance. In the district I work in we've had problems with the civilian CAPS people strutting around like they own the place. Then they want to get ignorant if they're asked for an I'D. CAPS has long worn out its welcome. There will be shitstreaks on the floor though if some of the chosen ones have to do street duty.

9/17/2010 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Paul said...

For someone newer to Chicago, what is CAPS? Even their website doesn't say much beyond bureaucratic/politician speak.

9/17/2010 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caps was useless from the beginning, just an over bloated patronage haven for the connected and a hiding place for those who don't want to work the street....

9/17/2010 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will superintendent weiss dump the district commanders that had more than 6 officers assigned to caps

9/17/2010 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STEP 1: disband CAPS
STEP 2: Alderman responsible to provide info to the public
He has access to ICAM
STEP 3: disband MSF since they patrol dead zones and
70% of the crime is down South.
STEP 4: Temp return of GEU officers to their previous
Districts (call it a reverse 90 day detail)
STEP 4: Consolidate offices at HQ. It never fails to see
Some people napping.
Step 5: Promotional freeze until manpower level deemed
proportionally balanced.

9/17/2010 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell is A/3 Tact teams getting called out to 025 for the craziness??? Isn't it enough they are sending cars to 008 every night? Before any of you tough "west side" guys, or guys that live in 016, start talking shit! Area 3 is now fighting the beast just as bad, and quite a few police families still live here!

9/17/2010 03:05:00 AM


one of the guys from area three tact team had the best porn stache ever. on post on fullerton ave. push broom deluxe

9/17/2010 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Realistically, what do they actually do anyway. Heat emergencies? They send beat cars to check up on the people. Cold Emergencies? Same thing.They spend more time doign BBQ's, selling cook books and walking in marches than doing Police work. In fact, many of those Officers haven't made an arrest in over 10 years.

Shortshanks thinks that these Officers will go on the streets? Don't bet the farm, fat boy. They'll either find another hidey hole within the district or find one in a unit...

The poor chumps pushing Beat cars will be left as they always have...


In the wind...

9/17/2010 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put those clouted caps "officer's" on the street! Some have been inside on the desk during probation and then up to the caps office, spending only their training cycles on the street. Ridiculous!

9/17/2010 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Close CAPS down along with TRU. Put all of the police back into the districts, please.

9/17/2010 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

caps biggest waste of taxpayer money every month , same people
telling officers about drug sales
loitering , unlicensed mechanics,unlicensed food vendors around schools in 10th district

usually more police than citizens

cpd needs zero caps officers
that's why the mayor has 311 system

call that , make work jobs for civilians and officers who don't want to be the police

put all the caps officers on the street and make arrests , not tell the tactical unit

the tactical unit knows where the crime is , don't need an empty holster to tell them

9/17/2010 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah right, like they are going back on the street--- bullshit, they are all making calls right now to go somewhere else inside--- all of them are in caps now because their chinaman put them there--- as long as the eagle keeps shitting twice a month and i get time when i want it i could give 2 shits what they do with the crybaby caps people... you don't send out a child to do a man's job....

9/17/2010 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The hacks in 009's CAPS office will never work a beat car. The two that got dumped to 3rd watch have yet to take a job. One passes out radio's and checks on politicians homes. Suddenly we have a second park car for the other one. WTF! Stay in the CAPS office. At least we can find you there.

9/17/2010 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounding "Taps for CAPS"

Congrats to all on the success of the March. I think we can fairly say that the CAPS issue would not have been expeditiously addressed without it!

Job WELL DONE.

9/17/2010 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....Ron Holt will not be liked after these cuts are made. One of the CAPS people were overheard saying how come Ron Holt ain't on the street. Incredible. Ron's a policemans' policeman missy.

9/17/2010 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why district managers, and district secretaries, and assistant district secretaries?? What a waste of money and personal. In some districts, like 004, the assistant secretary doesn't do nothing but shop online all day

9/17/2010 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell is A/3 Tact teams getting called out to 025 for the craziness??? Isn't it enough they are sending cars to 008 every night? Before any of you tough "west side" guys, or guys that live in 016, start talking shit! Area 3 is now fighting the beast just as bad, and quite a few police families still live here!

9/17/2010 03:05:00 AM

AREA 3 is slow. Sorry to break it to you. While I'm breaking obvious news to you, Tact. sucks..for the privilege of wearing cool jeans and t-shirts with awesome logos, they mess with your schedule, start time, days off etc. Anyone who CHOOSES to work tact and complains should just go back to the watch.

9/17/2010 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We have plenty of police if the city won't recinde the 63 retirement age

9/17/2010 07:37:00 AM

Raise the retirment age to 65 or 68 and put those officers in the CAPS unit.

9/17/2010 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"One of the CAPS people were overheard saying how come Ron Holt ain't on the street. Incredible. Ron's a policemans' policeman missy.

9/17/2010 03:16:00 PM"

a true example of the pot trying to call the kettle black.

9/17/2010 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well, lets do a little math. 019 has two CAPS Lts, 2 CAPS Sgts and 3 POs on the 2nd watch and 3 POs on the third watch. Thats a total of 10 officers total.
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To beginwith, no district should have ANY Lt. assigned to CAPS. There are supposed to be ZERO Lt.'s assigned to CAPS because there are supposed to be 5 Area Lt.'s assigned that job to oversee their respective districts. So blame 019 for shitting on you, not the 6 officers.

Secondly, the 5th Floor put it in writing that THEY wanted 2 Sgt.'s assigned to CAPS, one who works during the day and does all the actual Community Policing required meetings and running around, and the 3rd Watch guy who does nothing but goes to beat meetings along with the third watch officers.

Thirdly, the PO's are the ones doing all the work that's done in CAPS, along with planning, gathering and setting up for all your district parties you can't live without. Included in those PO's are

Domestic Violence officer -

They SHOULD be doing followup investigation into all Dom Vio cases, giving aid to the victims in such forms as making sure they get to court, helping them find a place to stay until mr. shithead is in jail.

Youth Officer -

That's up for conjecture.... it's not the CPD's job to teach someone elses kid how to act like a human being. I say GONE, if the parents can't raise their kid fuck em, lock them up.

Faith Based Officer -

A TRUE fucking waste of personnel, and the separation of church and state is in violation here, but the idea is that if the CPD gets involved in the Church community they may trust THAT officer at least to talk about crimes in thier hood. Maybe, I don't know.

Senior Services Officer -

Technically this position, even though they're shown as CAPS personnel, is a separate job description and the "SSO" has their own SOPs and prior to CAPS this person stood apart from CAPS and did their job, which is supposed to be followup investigation on crimes against the elderly, rendering aid to the elderly that beat personnel have no time for, arresting offenders and aiding the victims to court. SSO's are also supposed to infiltrate senior groups and attempt to get seniors to trust police again. This is the only position I know of that the group focused on actually WANTS the officer there and involved.

Abandoned Buildings Officer -

This person was originally OUTSIDE of the CAPS circle but when they started cutting back they were put under the CAPS umbrella. This job is supposed to be going through the entire district to eventually rid it of abandoned houses. I dunno if it works or not.

Those are the only jobs mandated by CAPS. The extra guy is the one who runs stats for all the meetings and the district.

Bear in mind that all these jobs require monthly meeting attendance, fundraising and events for each and that each job is 5 days a week non-stop. That means that everyone is backup to everyone else and has to know how to do that person's job.

All the other stuff we may seem them doing is EXTRA work required of the CAPS office outside the original parameters of their job function.

It's work, just not the report taking, ticketwriting kind.

9/17/2010 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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I have seen both sides of CAPS. I worked in a CAPS office for several years, and am currently back on the street of my own choosing. I prefer the street, but did the CAPS thing for a while when it benefitted my family life.

As someone who has seen both sides, I must put in my two cents here. While there are definitely some "overstuffed" CAPS offices, I have to state that more work goes on in a well run office then most people would care to believe. Sure in almost every office there is probably one or more who are just coasting along, but the same can be said for any watch in any district.

But I truly believe that if they strip the CAPS offices as described, the officers on the street will feel a negative impact. The weekend details, abandoned building checks, business complaints, and more will be added on top of all of the other calls, and the additional two or three people per watch, will not really help.

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Fire away!!!!!!!!!!

Former CAPS Participant

9/17/2010 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Caps was never anything more but a way for shanks to pass out jobs at more than they were worth salaries to Crime family members/associates.

They'd be missed by those suckling at the $$$ teat & by those holding district level jobs who were too afraid to be the real police in the first place.

9/17/2010 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another move that shows we are going to outsources parts of the department like Background Investigations on new candidates. The great Director of HR T.L. dumped the one Sgt J.F. who is the expert on hiring. You guys in 23 are getting a great Sgt!

9/17/2010 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We have plenty of police if the city won't recinde the 63 retirement age

9/17/2010 07:37:00 AM

Stay off the blog Hollow, enjoy that retirement already.

9/17/2010 08:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the department ever consider how many officers retired because of CAPS. Waste of time and manpower, most real police hate it and anything associated with it. The same people who complained about drug sales at caps meetings were seen on weekends buying at that dealer. Bring the Department back to the days of kel-lites and most of the cops being military vets and you will never regret it.
I retired 10 years ago and still love the job. I retired rather than go another year in CAPS.

9/17/2010 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

get rid of district commanders and keep district managers
commanders are draining our pension

9/17/2010 08:22:00 AM
Yeah ok, have a civilian district manager tell me what to do.
Like that'll work.
Most of those hacks don't know their own jobs let alone police work.

9/17/2010 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

District managers make Lt's pay, for what?

9/17/2010 06:59:00 AM
to fill out forms, put in work tickets, and do what limited duty po's. cadets or college interns could do for a lot less!

9/17/2010 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS gone!

9/17/2010 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The hacks in 009's CAPS office will never work a beat car. The two that got dumped to 3rd watch have yet to take a job. One passes out radio's and checks on politicians homes. Suddenly we have a second park car for the other one. WTF! Stay in the CAPS office. At least we can find you there.

And the Sgt. got his call in, going to the "D" area. That took long...not!!!

9/17/2010 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spoke with a CAPS officer today and he is actually looking forward to working a beat car on days. He said good luck to whomever is left behind to handle the aftermath of reorganizing the CAPS office. He also said it will be a nice change to be out on the beat answering calls. I think this was refreshing to hear and hopefully most of the officers returning to the beats will have the same attitude. I say welcome back brother!!

9/17/2010 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For someone newer to Chicago, what is CAPS? Even their website doesn't say much beyond bureaucratic/politician speak.

9/17/2010 11:44:00 AM

You already answered your own question.

9/17/2010 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

News says 300 policemen in caps, what a shame and embarrassment.

9/17/2010 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell is A/3 Tact teams getting called out to 025 for the craziness???

9/17/2010 03:05:00 AM

Sgt. Saunders said...
To 3:05 qam-
The answer to your question is because the current managment team in 025 doesn't know how to take care of business in 025 and make sure these little uprisings are quashed...In case you still don't understand, here's a clue. 014 experienced NO trouble during Mexican Independence Day. 025 did.

--9/17/2010 07:30:00 AM

Yeah, what was that callout -- clear Riis Park, probably. Poor Engine 125 -- The Working Man's Engine -- gets used as a mobile roadblock around here, by virtue of being large and heavy, despite all its other duties. How 'bout a Blue Bird bus fulla 40 helmeted coppers with 36" batons instead...and another empty bus for the arrests of los ilegales."MSF stay at your posts even as early cars are released..."

9/17/2010 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering, all of CPD is aware of the BS associated with the CAPS crap. However, the officers assigned to politician security details do they get bodyguard or any special trainimg? How many are assigned to each detail? Do they all get D2 or Sgt's salary? How many females are serving? What's the total cost to the taxpayers? What are their hours/schedule? At the end of the day do they believe they're real police officers? In all my years I've never heard of any one of them protecting our precious politicians from harm. Am I wrong? Just wondering.

9/17/2010 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a civilian and have done a lot work with CAPS offices all over the city. I volunteered my time in many cases. I met and worked with some dedicated officers with ideas and know how; genuinely concerned with helping youth, making schools safer, quality of life issues. Others were just terrible and couldn't be bothered. No social skills, if you could even get them to talk to you. I would just watch and listen these people and wonder, why are you even here? The concept of having an office where citizens could go and feel welcome and talk with someone about their neighborhood concerns - or meet with other homeowners and businesses to figure out ways to make their neighborhood safer was a good idea in theory, but it just had too many unqualified people working there. Because of clout I guess. The Neighborhood Relations cops were even worse. Many didn't return phone calls, remember and keep track of ongoing projects. Most had no basic business skills. But I was the most shocked by the people in the upper management positions. Kathie Carothers and Beth Ford were both horrible at their jobs, condescending and arrogant. I can't imagine either of them lasting in a private sector job. And don't forget Ted Keefe was at CAPS before he went to 311. He was a piece of work too. Down right nasty.

9/18/2010 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abandoned Buildings Officer -

This person was originally OUTSIDE of the CAPS circle but when they started cutting back they were put under the CAPS umbrella. This job is supposed to be going through the entire district to eventually rid it of abandoned houses. I dunno if it works or not.



How many abandoned building officers are needed per watch? My district has 4 officers assigned to 2nd watch plus the abandoned bldg officer assigned to the area.

9/18/2010 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if that is where the computer that magically appeared today came from?

9/18/2010 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
district commanders that had more than 6 caps officers and allowed beat cars to patrol as 1 man units should be dumped immediately

couldn't holt run caps for det pay

get rid of district commanders and keep district managers
commanders are draining our pension

9/17/2010 08:22:00 AM


I don't know where you work, but it OBVIOUSLY is not 006. I would trade in ten of our district managers for half Eddie Johnson. She's a useless waste of space and he's a top notch boss. She won't do anything but worry about radio room sheets being signed, whereas he's out on the streets with patrol. Will go to war with you and back you up. Our district manager won't get ANY thing fixed, and won't order any replacement equipment either. Thank goodness we have a good facilities manager that you can get to do stuff!!

9/18/2010 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What exactly does Tina Skahill do?

9/18/2010 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah but if you get rid of caps you have to find some new kind of unit to let the bonus babies work 3 hour days.

Ever think about that?

9/18/2010 03:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"For someone newer to Chicago, what is CAPS? Even their website doesn't say much beyond bureaucratic/politician speak."

Uhhh...Paul, that about describes what CAPS is!

It defies description because it means so many things to so many people, yet in the end, is essentially meaningless.

9/18/2010 04:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Yeah why are they sending all the resources from Area Three all over the City? There are growing concerns from the highest tax paying citizens from Area Three about the diminished police protection in the neighborhoods."

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

If the "wheels" in Area 3 don't start and continue bitching to the alderman, the mayor's and superintendent's offices, every day, they're gonna lose out.

Since they're paying for the program, they have every right to gripe.

Make sure that they know that.

9/18/2010 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"couldn't holt run caps for det pay"

Maybe, but since he agreed to be a poster child against "gun violence" (because guns are violent, not the animals that wield them), they gave him big money.

They got to him while he was weak.

9/18/2010 04:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then those in CAPS can sit back and laugh while you complain even more how "this ain't police work".

How long have you been in the CAPS office? Everything you stated in your little essay is already being done by the P.O.'s on the street. Answer an Alderman's complaint? Been there, done that. Have a citizen complain to me about a problem and then tell ME have to solve it? That's about 95% of my day.

Don't worry about returning to the streets. Grant it, you will have to wear your uniform everyday so you might want to make sure that they still fit. Shuffling paper does not burn as many calories as you might think.

9/18/2010 06:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's Mr.Belvedere in 016 gonna do IF they put him back on the street? You can only get so many "TUMMY ACHES" in a period.

Just please dont put him on the
2nd watch. We've got enough problems.

9/18/2010 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know where you work, but it OBVIOUSLY is not 006. I would trade in ten of our district managers for half Eddie Johnson. She's a useless waste of space and he's a top notch boss. She won't do anything but worry about radio room sheets being signed, whereas he's out on the streets with patrol. Will go to war with you and back you up. Our district manager won't get ANY thing fixed, and won't order any replacement equipment either. Thank goodness we have a good facilities manager that you can get to do stuff!!

9/18/2010 02:02:00 AM

Yea okay, he will back you up and go to war with you, but he also recommended a sergeant outide his unit for meritorius lieutenant. That also sends a pretty clear message to the troops he supervises.

9/18/2010 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We have plenty of police if the city won't recinde the 63 retirement age
--------------------

If they rescind this, a lot of deputy superintendents will stay on until they are 85. Especially the ones in Area 3

9/18/2010 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know where you work, but it OBVIOUSLY is not 006. I would trade in ten of our district managers for half Eddie Johnson. She's a useless waste of space and he's a top notch boss. She won't do anything but worry about radio room sheets being signed, whereas he's out on the streets with patrol. Will go to war with you and back you up. Our district manager won't get ANY thing fixed, and won't order any replacement equipment either. Thank goodness we have a good facilities manager that you can get to do stuff!!

9/18/2010 02:02:00 AM

Yea okay, he will back you up and go to war with you, but he also recommended a sergeant outide his unit for meritorius lieutenant. That also sends a pretty clear message to the troops he supervises.

9/18/2010 01:34:00 PM
Yeah but he recommended TWO sgts that work in his district for merit lt also. What do you have to say about that, asshat?

9/19/2010 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS is defined as bureaucratic, political doublespeak. The rule they live by is "Why write any kind of order or special notice with five dollar words when thousand dollar words will befuddle."

9/19/2010 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tact Sucks. NO SHIT! When we worked tact we got overtime, hours off on the end, drive-in movie nite w/beverages and food, watch parties (gratis), etc. Hustle to wear bluejeans and drive a piece of shit unmarked??? Crazy.

9/19/2010 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tact Sucks. NO SHIT! When we worked tact we got overtime, hours off on the end, drive-in movie nite w/beverages and food, watch parties (gratis), etc. Hustle to wear bluejeans and drive a piece of shit unmarked??? Crazy.

9/19/2010 01:17:00 AM
Then don't work tact you self entitled arrogant spoiled selfish crybaby. No loss. Answer those domestics, write those tickets and SFTU.
You ain't doin anyone a favor working or not working tact.
Depolicing punk. You sound like the
ultimate tact warriors kid sister

9/20/2010 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone have anything positive to say about CAPS? Has anything positive come of CAPS? If CAPS is gonna stay how about some input on how CAPS can work or be a productive?

9/27/2010 03:23:00 PM  

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