The CAPS Zombie
- Big changes in the works for Chicago Police are now being put on hold. CBS 2 learned that a large number of officers were about to be reassigned to street duty. Now, the plan has been put on hold, after a protest about where the officers were coming from. [...]
It was supposed to happen this week. We already had the details: 130 officers to be reassigned.
But once the department's partners in its Chicago Alternative Policing Strategy, or CAPS, started to protest at 7 p.m. Wednesday, the moves were put on hold -- until at least next month.
Prediction (and not from the crystal ball unit either):
- It will be far easier to disband MSF, TRU, GEU or send the gang teams back to the Districts than it will be to kill CAPS once and for all.
If J-Fled and the Policy Group had even one-half-of-one functioning brain cell, they'd close two districts tomorrow, remap the remaining beats and eliminate District Managers along with about 20 gold star/director slots that are redundant, useless and money wasters. That alone would at least give a veneer of credibility to attempts to paint J-Fled as a "reformer."
He'd still be an out-of-touch, ego maniacal, run-from-gunfire coward with zero people skills and even less leadership ability, but he could claim the "reformer" label and not be subjected to outright laughter.
He'd still be an out-of-touch, ego maniacal, run-from-gunfire coward with zero people skills and even less leadership ability, but he could claim the "reformer" label and not be subjected to outright laughter.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
121 Comments:
SCC:
Do you have the new sergeants assignments that just came out?
It's nice to see the heavyweights who go straight to days.
Peter Karl cried like a bitch saying his "Crimewatch" show would be canceled.
Hey Jay Levine:
Read in between the lines.
Who is really upset that the CAPS program would go away?
People that would lose their spots.. this is a government program afterall.
SAVE THE TAXPAYER MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!
Get RID of this BULLSHIT program NOW!!!!
"If J-Fled and the Policy Group had even one-half-of-one functioning brain cell, they'd close two districts tomorrow, remap that remaining beats..."
Why? How about getting the AMOUNT OF OFFICERS WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET?
C'mon SCC, whether you dislike J-fled or hate him we all know there is no supernintendo that EVER had the power to do this.....
"If J-Fled and the Policy Group had even one-half-of-one functioning brain cell, they'd close two districts tomorrow, remap that remaining beats and eliminate District Managers along with about 20 gold star/director slots that are redundant, useless and money wasters."
You would have a better chance of finding an alderman that was honest, finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, and proving who killed JFK.
I agree with closing 2 districts. Mostly I agree with closing 013 and 021. 002 no long has the projects and could easily handle all of 021 with no problem, especially considering how big U of C Police Dept now is. Seriously...look at 231's beat. Look how much of NOTHING it is! Over half of it is vacant lots, a train yard for Metra and a school.
013 is a shadow of it's former self. The Horner Projects are gone. The yuppies have taken over 80% of that district. 011, 012 and 014 could easily handle 013.
I also agree with the Gang Teams being sent to back to the districts. It was a silly idea in the first place to take them out. Also agree with disbanding TRU and Saturation Teams.
Isn't this the same shit the Union claims the Department pulls with them all the time? I mean doing shit without telling them.
Only now they back off because the citizen groups are up in arms.
Guess its OK for the Department to fuck over the Police. What recourse do they have?
C.A.P.S. WORKS!
(Would I lie?)
Jesus, you've got me wondering if I'm SCC. Get rid of district managers? Get rid of redundant management positions? Eliminate Districts? Remap beats? I've been saying all that for years. Wait a minute. Have you been spying on me?
BTW. I'm no mathmetician, but by my count reassigning 130 officers means a whopping 5.2 officers per district (that is if they go to districts. what can I say? i'm an optimist.) or 1.73 officers per watch. Man, what an impact that will have on crime. Another great plan by another great leader.
Sounds like punishment from j-fled for protesting today. What better punishment for officers who state there are not enough police than to block the addition of 130 p.o's back to the street. J-fled is flexing his muscle.
Better have some retread training set up for these guys/gals in the CAPS office.... Nothing like sending PO's that have been out of the game right into the violence/fire! I am not in CAPS. I would never be an inside guy. I just don't wanna see anyone getting hurt due to the lack of experience with the "animal"... Its always seems the ones that wanted to "change things" or "help the community", get hurt. Be alert and careful out there..... Let's all go home safe at night
OT- Worked with two detectives from Milwaukee Sunday nite. Have to say they were top notch guys and it was refreshing to work with people who could make a decision without having to call ASA's. And once again having to explain "felony review" was tedious and embarrassing.
I will say, when we called felony review for our charges, we were taken care of in the quickest time ever and the ASA didn't treat us like bugs that were in the silverware drawer. Refreshing for a change. Thanks L**, your help was appreciated.
usually something that is federally funded dies when the funding is cut off--- not so with caps--- must be to many desk bunnies who are connected who can't go out and work the mean streets of chicago--- they might chip a nail or have to work a full 8 hours... put all these prima donnas into a beat car and start giving them jobs--- remember, you are a peace officer, time to start being one.....
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
Why complicate things? Just get rid of caps it serves no function whatsoever.
It is time to get these officers back on the street where they can do more for the community than sitting in a station waisting time
no need for officers to be in caps when they dont work that much anyway someone was afraid to be the police give up your star and become a citizen .lol some people decide to bring this to the news media Jay Levine cbs 2 . let get these officers back on the street and the citizens can run there own caps program no need to have officers sitting inside coming to works late and doing as they wish
we need officers on the beat where they can make a difference the time is now we not getting rid of the program citizen can run the program these alderman should not be involved is police matters wtf do they know always running their mouths get rid of alderman too no need for them waist of money .
Retaliation from j-fled.
Daley ducking out before Burge sentence?
If I had to guess, Rich Daley decided to hang it up as mayor because he'd like to spend more time with his family, because he's tapped out on ideas to fill the city's budget hole, because Chicago's failure to win the 2016 Olympics took away some of the fun, and because he's in his late 60's. As the mayor said, "It's time." Daley has always been a more complicated and well-rounded person than the title of "mayor" confers.
But Andrew S. Baer, a doctoral candidate at Northwestern, sees another reason for Daley's stepping down -- to duck the embarrassment sure to follow when a rogue Chicago cop who tortured suspects is sentenced in federal court next month for various charges involving obstruction of justice.
As Baer writes at History News Network, a website for historians weighing in on the issues of the day, Daley is looking "to escape scrutiny for his connection to a ring of over-zealous cops who forced confessions from murder suspects on Chicago's South Side from 1972 through the early 1990s."
Baer predicts the Burge scandal won't end with Burge's sentencing, but likely will lead to charges against other cops and officials directly or indirectly responsible for the reign of torture.
My guess is the Burge mess was the least of Daley's considerations when deciding to retire. He's been getting grief -- and ignoring it -- for years about his failure to do something about Burge back when he, Daley, was Cook County state's attorney. But Baer makes an interesting argument.
If you're unfamiliar with History News Network, by the way, it's a terrific website to drop in on once in awhile, well worth bookmarking. The historians and would-be historians posting there seem to share no one political persuasion, and they bring a perspective to current events you'll find nowhere else.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/backtalk/2010/09/daly_ducking_out_before_burge.html
Sneed is reporting that the Washington Dems are pushing Rahm out. It all makes sense now.
LONDON -- A woman in southwestern England says a severe migraine attack left her speaking with what sounds like a French accent -- a striking example of a rare syndrome that neuroscientists say can leave lifelong locals sounding like they come from thousands of miles away. The BBC identified her condition as Foreign Accent Syndrome, known only in a few dozen cases across the world.
One can only wonder what kind of affliction Mayor Richard M. Daley suffers from.
When will bids open up outside area 1 and 2?
Wow, posted under the Sun Times comments:
chicago cop wrote:
Mark Brown,
You are so very observant and correct in your analysis, that the Police Headquarters March was way off in anticipated numbers.
Many, many of us (Chicago Police Officers) refused to partake in the March at Police Headquarters.
The FOP was notified by hundreds of officers weeks ago, that we would not March at Police Headquarters and we did not. We wanted to March at City Hall for a multitude of very obvious reasons and were ignored.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue did the membership a huge disservice by Marching at Police Headquarters and not at City Hall.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue sold the membership out, by negotiating the Protest March location with Mayor Richard M. Daley.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue will be retiring in November and that he secured his retirement gig from Mayor Richard M. Daley; by diverting the real issues away from the attention of the citizens of Chicago.
We feel that the real cause of the dismal state of affairs in the City of Chicago and on the Chicago Police Department lays squarely at the feet of Mayor Richard M. Daley and the Alderman and that the March should have been at City Hall.
Don't worry we won't disappoint for long! We are organizing right now for a Protest March at City Hall while the City Council is in session.
We will combine with CTA employees, CPS teachers, CFD brother and sisters and any citizens who may wish to join us. This is much larger than Chicago Police Officers!
Everyone who resides in Chicago, works in Chicago, works for Chicago or visits Chicago is being affected by the lack of manpower on the Chicago Police Department. We are all sick and tired of the rampant corruption, mismanagement and lack of accountability emanating from City Hall!!!
It is time for real CHANGE!!!
Together We Can!
Anonymous said...
Sounds like punishment from j-fled for protesting today. What better punishment for officers who state there are not enough police than to block the addition of 130 p.o's back to the street. J-fled is flexing his muscle.
9/16/2010 01:05:00 AM
Otherwise it looks like he did it under pressure from FOP.
The reason CAPS isn't dead is because of the army of Democratic votes associated with it. Plain and simple it is a welfare type machine that churns out no show (or barely show) jobs. A welfare money machine.
Anonymous said...
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
9/16/2010 02:27:00 AM
It was his parallel parking.
Peter Karl is an idiot cronie that also has his hand in the mayors pocket! Good riddance!
What about that filmmaker guy in 023 who produces his own videos? Odd fella ... But his videos rock!!
Any truth to the rumors of a week ago about P.O.W.'s at call back and from S.O.S. being put back to work to fill the void of manpower ?
Eliminating districts is a BAD idea! We should never allow districts to close because then you need less p.o.'s, who will just be policing a larger beat. There will be less sgts with less PO's to supervise thus less chance at promotion, then Lt's and so on.
Why would we want to give up on opportunity for advancement when it is already so restricted by the merit system.
I agree with closing 2 districts. Mostly I agree with closing 013 and 021. 002 no long has the projects and could easily handle all of 021 with no problem, especially considering how big U of C Police Dept now is. Seriously...look at 231's beat. Look how much of NOTHING it is! Over half of it is vacant lots, a train yard for Metra and a school.
013 is a shadow of it's former self. The Horner Projects are gone. The yuppies have taken over 80% of that district. 011, 012 and 014 could easily handle 013.
I also agree with the Gang Teams being sent to back to the districts. It was a silly idea in the first place to take them out. Also agree with disbanding TRU and Saturation Teams.
Wow someone who gets it! this is spot on with the exception of TRU, they have been around the longest and should stay, if you disband anything it should be MSF, the Sat teams and Midnight Teams...
CAPS will be dead once Mayor Daley leaves for good! He's the only one that believes in this failed program!
Off Topic:
Congrats to the two Police in the SUV southbound Cicero at 3000 North on 9/15 @ about 19:00 hours..All the Hispanics with the flags hanging out the car windows and you two guys flying two American Flags..I,loved it.
A.Citizen
Wow, posted under the Sun Times comments:
chicago cop wrote:
Mark Brown,
You are so very observant and correct in your analysis, that the Police Headquarters March was way off in anticipated numbers.
Many, many of us (Chicago Police Officers) refused to partake in the March at Police Headquarters.
The FOP was notified by hundreds of officers weeks ago, that we would not March at Police Headquarters and we did not. We wanted to March at City Hall for a multitude of very obvious reasons and were ignored.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue did the membership a huge disservice by Marching at Police Headquarters and not at City Hall.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue sold the membership out, by negotiating the Protest March location with Mayor Richard M. Daley.
We feel that FOP President Mark Donahue will be retiring in November and that he secured his retirement gig from Mayor Richard M. Daley; by diverting the real issues away from the attention of the citizens of Chicago.
We feel that the real cause of the dismal state of affairs in the City of Chicago and on the Chicago Police Department lays squarely at the feet of Mayor Richard M. Daley and the Alderman and that the March should have been at City Hall.
Don't worry we won't disappoint for long! We are organizing right now for a Protest March at City Hall while the City Council is in session.
We will combine with CTA employees, CPS teachers, CFD brother and sisters and any citizens who may wish to join us. This is much larger than Chicago Police Officers!
Everyone who resides in Chicago, works in Chicago, works for Chicago or visits Chicago is being affected by the lack of manpower on the Chicago Police Department. We are all sick and tired of the rampant corruption, mismanagement and lack of accountability emanating from City Hall!!!
It is time for real CHANGE!!!
Together We Can!
9/16/2010 07:13:00 AM
what is this " we" crap? You didn't do anything to rouse support for city hall march. If you did how did that march at city hall go. Instead of swallowing your pride and showing unity with your fellow POs we could accomplish something.
Georgass is having the marine unit deployed this winter for the first time since 2000. That means anything that happens on the lake or river will be handled by the fire dept. even if it's crime related, unless they have to call officers back in like the night Michael Scott was found in the Chgo. River. You have a specialized unit with only about 42 people covering 3 watches , how are they going to make a difference going back on the street when they respond to jobs all year long on the lake and river as well as lagoons?
Did they make a new spot for Tina Skahill?
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
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The reason being the driver was able to keep his farts down to a bare (bare LOL) minimum and pan face wasn't gassed.
I agree with closing 2 districts. Mostly I agree with closing 013 and 021. 002 no long has the projects and could easily handle all of 021 with no problem, especially considering how big U of C Police Dept now is.
Never happen, the University does not want 021 to close and neither does your president or alderman Preckwinkle. Hyde park is safe because of 021 and the University. Close 021 and see what happens. Too much clout living in that area to close it in fact look for them to get a new station soon.
Scc, where did yesterdays Jody protest idea come from? I see CBS 2 interviewed FOP president. was original idea from fop, here, shaved or another source?
waist of money .
9/16/2010 04:41:00 AM
you mean "waste" of money? please learn how to spell properly, it's embarrasing. but yes i agree.
" We will combine with CTA employees " ...
no "we" won't - YOU might. but speak for yourself there, skippy!
when the Amalgamated Transit union publically endorses releasing a convicted cop killer (Wesely Cook) those are NOT people that any self-respecting police officer, Chicago or otherwise, should be involved with
Uh oh, how many of them will go on the medical???
Suoerintendent Jody Weiss ,
need more man power
close 2 districts
and you will have 6 more captains
17 lts , 60 sgts . 100 + police officers available to man beat cars, 2 less district managers ,2 less crossing guard supervisors,2 less commanders and apprx 20 less civilians on the payroll
you can do it , remember you have a contract until march 2011
help the beat officers on the street , most of us appreciate the changes in cpd rifles , suvs , 4 day work schedule
13 and 21 only have 9 beat cars and could easily be covered
WTF. 130 more officers on the street is better than zero. Must be nice to have a phone call.
I am tired of reading the dissing of the so called "house mouse". I was on the street for 10 yrs+ and asked to come inside to try something new of interest. I have met plenty of capable officers who work inside and not one officer who goes to these CAPS meetings would trade places with us. The majority of the officers state, "man, I wouldn't want your job. The bullshit you deal with".
Sure there is down time. Is there not downtime on a rapid or beat car? You bet, depending on the time of day and the season of the year and watch. True there are dogs both inside and out on the street each district has them.
I have no clout, I am expected to work 8 hrs, change days off, get detailed and adjust hours. I answer to state represenatives, senators, alderman, the community at large, business organizations and alike. I can't tell people to go F*** themselves unlike on the street. I can't drive away and say, call the police about some B.S. again and I'll lock your ass up. Doesn't happen when you're a direct extension of the commander and deputies.
As long as this spot is filled with "clouted" people it will never go away.
Yeah, me and all my coworkers can't wait to get to work and drive around in circles in the boxes. This departments policy's and ideas are ridiculous. So is Weis, outsiders of the department have no clue how screwed up everything is, including our leadership.
OT -
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/15/2227310/st-joseph-police-officer-killed.html
-Another civilian who supports CPD to the end
I live in 14, I think Caps works for us. Why do PO's hate Caps so much?
It's nice to see the heavyweights who go straight to days.
9/16/2010 12:16:00 AM
Not always. I haven't seen the current districts of assignment for the new sgts (I'm fishing right now), but when I earned sgt years ago, I fully expected to be given 1st or 3rd watch (and had resigned myself that it would be 1st because I've got no clout anywhere.) Got to the district and was told that the only openings were on 1st or 2nd watch. No brainer, that one! I took 2nd.
O.T. I don't advise speaking to any member of the media due to their ongoing persecution of the CPD, but let me present a name that NOBODY should talk to. Does Kristyn Hartman of Ch.2 do anything but negative stories about the police? An armed robbery suspect who is fleeing the police on a bicycle gets knocked off the bike by a squad car and lo and behold he is armed with a pistol! But this hack interviews the ghetto-fabulous auntie who probably was miles away when it happened and alleges it was excessive force and they ran him over and dragged him with the car, "woo-woo its all that" and fill in the blanks with your typical shithead story. Don't reward these media creatures by answering their questions especially this one! Maybe someday they will have to return to somewhat responsible reporting.
Peter Karl Productions is gone from the CPD!
His contract was not renewed with the city.
Anonymous said...
Jesus, you've got me wondering if I'm SCC. Get rid of district managers? Get rid of redundant management positions? Eliminate Districts? Remap beats? I've been saying all that for years. Wait a minute. Have you been spying on me?
BTW. I'm no mathmetician, but by my count reassigning 130 officers means a whopping 5.2 officers per district (that is if they go to districts. what can I say? i'm an optimist.) or 1.73 officers per watch. Man, what an impact that will have on crime. Another great plan by another great leader.
9/16/2010 01:01:00 AM
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Baby steps.
Little by little they should be stripping these inside units to replenish district law enforcement.
Jody has no idea how to lead nor does he have any type of background in management. Interesting how he got a job as Superintendent.
On another thought, maybe Daley hired him to show the world how incompetent and ignorant the FBI really is?
LOL, I'm just saying look at the product they produced.
Have a great day Jody and get that resume ready, SON!!!!!!!
SCC,
Are you planning a post on the latest money grab by Lovey & Lovey? If you don't want to draw additional attn to this matter I understand. I have torn down the notices in 005 out of disgust. Then I heard they are up there per Judges order... oops! Well, I still will tear them down, just more discreetly. More of our money given to shitbirds. I couldn't look at it out of disgust. Don't know where you work, but they are white fliers with yellow headers, one in english and one in spanish and side by side. Have a great day, stay safe.
Off Topic:
A newly promoted Lt. told his friends the other day..I have nothing to worry about, because, I am going back to the unit after the academy!! How fair is that Jimmy S??? No complaints from him, because, he is a triple merit guy.
it's so obvious to us in Patrol who work the streets what needs to be done and/or where the cuts could be made. The fix could be made within a month.
When will bids open up outside area 1 and 2?
9/16/2010 07:02:00 AM
When you retire. If you halfta ask you ain't got clout.
so these were po's from CAPS Hard to believe they would send them to the streets
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
9/16/2010 02:27:00 AM
Being a top notch GETAWAY driver has to count for something!!! lol
also agree with the Gang Teams being sent to back to the districts. It was a silly idea in the first place to take them out. Also agree with disbanding TRU and Saturation Teams.
Says Mr. Bid Bad MSF. Get rid of half that unit too. Bunch of clowns that couldn't find their own arrest bigger than a blunt.
Peel off that stupid "CAPS" star sticker, put everyone back to work, and let's be done with this.
You want to find out about crime in a neighborhood, get out there and look around and chase the radio. How about that guy running away there -- the one carrying the TV? Clear the corners, toss the bunch hanging in someone else's doorway. Tow away that boom car. Hey! Park's closed. Can we have a wagon over here?
You got to whip it. Whip it good.
Please post the new sgts assignments please.
"LONDON -- A woman in southwestern England says a severe migraine attack left her...with...Foreign Accent Syndrome, known only in a few dozen cases across the world.
"One can only wonder what kind of affliction Mayor Richard M. Daley suffers from."
--9/16/2010 06:40:00 AM
"Well, syndrome, I mean, heh heh, you talk about this syndrome, I mean seriously. Anyone can, well, you know, you people in the media, syndrome. Heh, it's not, it's not, it's a."
Closest I can place it is Porky the Pig all jacked up on Elavil or something weird like that.
Where does Weis get his botox treatments, by the way? One of those "day spas" or what?
Good riddance. CAPS has been a political arm of the mayor for far too long. But even better is watching the pampered babies in the CAPS office buy diapers for when they have to go back out in a beat car. I hear the crying already.
Can we abolish NewsAffairs too ???? Why does it take a uniformed po to quote, " detectives are investigating" (note: they aren't, shortage at Areas). Who are these News Affairs spokespersons, as elusive as the mystic CAPS officers. Will they be the ones going to the newly staffed Airport Unit in Nov???? Im still waiting for my gold brick.
Can someone explain why B&A was disbanded and only a certain clouted one stayed?
mayor daley every police officer has received weeks of caps training
cpd no longer needs caps officers assigned to districts
back to the street office workers with guns
Do we really need career house mouses on the street? All they will do is create more work as they duck jobs and are constantly calling for help.
Sisters and Brothers in blue. We can call this crew house mouses or whatever. The truth of the matter is working directly with the community, politicians, businessmen and school princpals is a challenge within itself. They are also held accountable for a myriad of projects and events that teach a community to sustain itself. Our department will see with the romoval of these officers and what they do, the Watch Commanders job will become equivalent to a circus clown, as will the desk sergeant and a District Commander. CAPS Police personnel address major issues each day that our mid level managers/supervisors, do not have to add to their busy schedules. Also, the impact of the kind of things they bring to a community can and will never be replaced. Their services heighten trust with the community and police, not the bullshit the Stuperintendent is spouting. This is real work and real relationships being built. Adding 2 10-4 Units per district is not worth the loss we will experience, PERIOD!
How can you have a Mayor that is on the way out the door, a Superintendent who is definately on the way out (thank goodness) still making major decisions that will pave the way for the next group of leaders for this city? How can they continue to negatively impact this city, then run for cover! Fucking assholes! Go out with some diginity. Try not to fuck up this department and this city anymore than you have done before you leave. Quitly fade into the sunset.
Mayor Daley, you will be remembered for destroying CAPS, the one positive thing Chicago is known for worldwide! Actually, we are on a pedastal for its creation. Thanks for killing it! Asshat!
Jodi Weis, you will be known as the most arrogant Superintendent who did the absolute worst job at directing the worlds greatest department! You should never have sent a letter justifying what you have done. If you did so much, we would all see it. You would not have had to say one fucking word. If you beleived it, you would not have had to continue to say it and continually send your perception of a successful reign as the Chief of CPD to every media and every polcie officer throughout the city.
You are not a leader. A leader does not have to publically justify his actions. You are not a leader because a leader would not have to point out each step of the way why he/she should be perceived as a leader and/or successful! You are not a leader because you did not know the job you were sent here to over see, you made horrible decisons and you were too stupid to just make changes where needed not just based on a kiss ass or a friend of your wife's (look at Ernie Brown who you dumped then made what, 5th in Command, look at Beatrice Cuello, you made her 3rd in Command and from the guns/drugs to the concert fiasco, WTF!!!) You are not a leader because a leader would not have to ask those to follow him, support him, ask for direction/suggestions or assistance. Those things would just be a plain old part of life!
You my friend are the BIGGEST LOOSER!
Anonymous said...
Georgass is having the marine unit deployed this winter for the first time since 2000. That means anything that happens on the lake or river will be handled by the fire dept. even if it's crime related, unless they have to call officers back in like the night Michael Scott was found in the Chgo. River. You have a specialized unit with only about 42 people covering 3 watches , how are they going to make a difference going back on the street when they respond to jobs all year long on the lake and river as well as lagoons?
9/16/2010 09:37:00 AM
You can hire an ice fisherman from up north and crocodile mike will cover the rest. Problem solved.
pray for the officer who just fished a dead woman out of the bathtub--- pray for the officer who just took a 1 year old to the morgue--- pray for the officer who sees people shot and stabbed to death everyday--- pray for the officer who has to deal with bad bosses and bad citizens--- on the 9th day god created the policeman, an individual who possesses immense power and fortitude--- god bless the policeman and see him thru the darkest moments he may encounter...
Never happen, the University does not want 021 to close and neither does your president or alderman Preckwinkle. Hyde park is safe because of 021 and the University. Close 021 and see what happens. Too much clout living in that area to close it in fact look for them to get a new station soon.
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Original poster here. You could be right, but if you follow the money you're wrong. Look at all the money U of C has spent in cleaning up the east end of 002. Look at them buying up the Grove Parc Complex in 003. Look at the brand new U of C police station (which is huge) and all the new U of C police vehicles. Look at how far south they're starting to go in 003.
Now look at the 021 Station, they purposely let that place fall into disrepair for a reason. 012 and countless other districts will get new stations before 021. You even hear of any talk about 021 getting a new station? The original plan was to use the old 021 Station for TRU, but has fallen into complete disrepair that they didn't even want it.
they might chip a nail or have to work a full 8 hours...
But I have children!I HAVE TO BE HOME WHEN THEY GET HOME FROM SCHOOL!!
WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.....mine, not yours.
I have no clout, I am expected to work 8 hrs, change days off, get detailed and adjust hours. I answer to state represenatives, senators, alderman, the community at large, business organizations and alike. I can't tell people to go F*** themselves unlike on the street. I can't drive away and say, call the police about some B.S. again and I'll lock your ass up. Doesn't happen when you're a direct extension of the commander and deputies.
WAH WAH WAH!Boy, I love these house mouses ( or is that mice?) that constantly talk about how hard they work and how easy the rest of us have it. If you feel you are over worked, then come back out and play.
I was on the street for 10 yrs+ and asked to come inside to try something new of interest.
And I have some swamp land in Florida going at a great bargain. You were asked to come inside? I call bullshit. More likely, you were constantly hanging around the CAPS office looking for an opening.
Look, if you found a spot for yourself, good for you. But please don't give us this shit that you have it harder than the average street cop.
all you caps bitches better find your duty belts and vests then clean the dust off!!
Do we really need career house mouses on the street? All they will do is create more work as they duck jobs and are constantly calling for help.
Nice try, Mr. Mouse. Now get into your piece of shit pool car. We are in a RAP, so I hope you brought your lunch. You can eat it while you are driving from job to job.
OT, but can we get a break from the fop vs. Mike shields war. It's taking up too much space on the blog and you know it's only 2 or 3 guys per side going to town on each other. Boring, fellas. More UTW.
Anonymous said...
I am tired of reading the dissing of the so called "house mouse".
10+ years on the street? Wow, what a veteran.
Down time in a beat car? Are you fucking kidding me? Where has your head been for the past couple of years? Up your ass? Oh no, not up yours. Up the commanders. I forgot you're an extension of him.
Anonymous said...
Good riddance. CAPS has been a political arm of the mayor for far too long. But even better is watching the pampered babies in the CAPS office buy diapers for when they have to go back out in a beat car. I hear the crying already.
9/16/2010 04:51:00 PM
I actually saw crying, the last time two females were sent out on the street for 30 days, two of them cried a river. Real tears. Oh the humanity of it, police officers forced to work as police officers!
Anonymous said...
I am tired of reading the dissing of the so called "house mouse". I was on the street for 10 yrs+ and asked to come inside to try something new of interest. I have met plenty of capable officers who work inside and not one officer who goes to these CAPS meetings would trade places with us. The majority of the officers state, "man, I wouldn't want your job. The bullshit you deal with".
Sure there is down time. Is there not downtime on a rapid or beat car? You bet, depending on the time of day and the season of the year and watch. True there are dogs both inside and out on the street each district has them.
I have no clout, I am expected to work 8 hrs, change days off, get detailed and adjust hours. I answer to state represenatives, senators, alderman, the community at large, business organizations and alike. I can't tell people to go F*** themselves unlike on the street. I can't drive away and say, call the police about some B.S. again and I'll lock your ass up. Doesn't happen when you're a direct extension of the commander and deputies.
9/16/2010 10:58:00 AM
Wow, do you have it rough! Are your apple turnovers stale too? i wouldn't stand for that shit. Were you out there marching with us?
Were you the one with the "Hell No, We Won't go, signed CAPS Officers" sign?
File a grievance about how tough you have it. You can always resign and go into public relations and tell them war stories about the rough and tumble CPD and tell them what carbon paper is and how you really had to use it.
I feel for you. Now go piss up a rope.
Why did Daley and Holt (not Weis) make this announcement.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
waist of money .
9/16/2010 04:41:00 AM
you mean "waste" of money? please learn how to spell properly, it's embarrasing. but yes i agree.
9/16/2010 10:24:00 AM
Do you mean:
"You mean "waste" of money? Please learn how to spell properly, it's embarrasing. But yes I agree."?
Please learn how to capitalize properly; it is embarrassing.
Anonymous said...
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
9/16/2010 02:27:00 AM
It was his parallel parking.
9/16/2010 07:41:00 AM
or maybe he let Jody caress his thigh as he drove him around in the hot summer night. As the stars shone bright in the moonlit sky. And Jody 's beady little eyes glistened by the way of dashboard lights. Rolf
Its not retaliation. Officers have been saying to get the caps officers back on the street. Whats the big deal. What do the caps officers do anyway. the public will be able to give any officer info if they want!
In my dist. I had to print all the info to hand out at these meetings the caps [person just showed up, in blue jeans!! joke
Don't worry about MSF being disbanded the evil Lt. Leprechaun at MSF is getting rid of all the po's in his company that actually make good arrests and are taller than he is!
Leave them people in CAPS, they will just get us hurt out there.
taking officers out of CAPS or Neighborhood Relations is not the best way to cover our understated shartage. I don't (never have or willingly will) work inside, but I know that the people who work in there do have a job to do. In my District, they are actually quite helpful.
STOP bitching about a "spot" that most of us do not want. the real problem is the 3,000 spots that we need to fill up!!!
I agree with closing 2 districts. Mostly I agree with closing 013 and 021. 002 no long has the projects and could easily handle all of 021 with no problem, especially considering how big U of C Police Dept now is. Seriously...look at 231's beat. Look how much of NOTHING it is! Over half of it is vacant lots, a train yard for Metra and a school.
002 is a nothing joke of a district filled with blowhards and primadonnas living off its former deuce reputation and glory.
Close 021, parcel out the beats to the 001st,002nd and 003rd districts.U of C PD can handle the rest.
Peter "Judas" Karl said...
CAPS CAN'T DIE !!!!
IT CAN'T !!!
O PLEASE DON'T DIE CAPS...
PLEASE???
OT FOP UPDATED WEBSITE
Thursday, September 16, 2010
71 Applications for Retirement have been submitted. We need 29 more to reach our goal.
okay, solution, why don't the entire FOP board and executives retire, then you will reach your goal. your all fucking useless anyway spinning your lies and webs of deception.
I have no clout, I am expected to work 8 hrs, change days off, get detailed and adjust hours. I answer to state represenatives, senators, alderman, the community at large, business organizations and alike. I can't tell people to go F*** themselves unlike on the street. I can't drive away and say, call the police about some B.S. again and I'll lock your ass up. Doesn't happen when you're a direct extension of the commander and deputies.
oh give me a break and cry me a river dickface. On the street ten whole years...hahahahaha. you only start to get your whiskers at ten years. dont try to persuade everyone why the hell your inside. Im sure you wernt a ball of fire in you WHOLE 10 years on the street. give me a break. I know several people that work in the caps office who play the scam pretty damn good. dont try and drum up sympathy of saying "man I wouldnt want your job." hahahahahahaahah, go tell that nonsense to some kid with 3 years on the job you tool.
(OT) Could SCC have helped this from movie detail received in an email/
In the event we receive requests for movie details, we have opened enrollment for Friday through Tuesday. Please sign up for the dates which you can work in the CLEAR system. DO NOT CALL SPECIAL EVENTS. It is requested you only sign up for dates in which you can work the ENTIRE day. Keep in mind Special Events can only provide you with a start time, your finish time is left up to the production company that you will be working for.
Also, the Special Events and Liaison Section (SELS) is currently updating the phone numbers and e-mail addresses of all personnel working special employment and movie assignments. You can update your information in the CLEAR system by going to the "Bureaus" section after signing in. Click on the "Office of the Superintendent" tab and then click on "Register for Event Notification." After filling in all the required information, click on "Subscribe." This memorializes all of your contact information.
Having your information on file will facilitate communications should employment opportunities arise. Officers intending to work a movie detail should provide a cell phone number. Once you are assigned, this will be the easiest way for Special Events and the production company to contact you if needed. Phone numbers provided to Special Events will only be used for employment opportunities. Note, providing your information in CLEAR does not guarantee employment.
If you do not wish to receive E-mail notifications follow the procedures above directing you to update your information. When you enter the Register For Event Notifications screen click on the unsubscribe button in the upper right hand corner.
did supt weiss really assign captains as inspectors to replace lieutenants
no money for police officers but weiss is tricked into paying captains to do a lieutenants job
what's next will there be desk lieutenantsto replace desk sergeants
weiss is dumber than he looks
the captains must be laughing all the way to the bank
no money for patrolman
to 9-16-2010; 01:05:00am
how right you are, and will be proven to be...he IS here for a reason, wait for the indictments, it will be humorous!...hahahahahahahah
"002 is a nothing joke of a district filled with blowhards and primadonnas living off its former deuce reputation and glory.
Close 021, parcel out the beats to the 001st,002nd and 003rd districts.U of C PD can handle the rest."
Sounds like you should paint yourself with the same brush amigo. 002 is in a backlog every day. Top 10 in homicides in the city, without the projects. Still plenty of shit there. Each watch operating 3-4 down beat cars. I guess according to you the only police in this city comes from your unit? Fucktard!
UpYours said...
Peter "Judas" Karl said...
CAPS CAN'T DIE !!!!
IT CAN'T !!!
O PLEASE DON'T DIE CAPS...
PLEASE???
9/16/2010 09:57:00 PM
OKAY BITCHES, NOW YA'LL DONE IT, YALL DONE KILLED MY MEAL TICKET.
ITS PETER SNARL, HERE, PETER KARL DONE WENT THE WAY OF CAPS, AND I'M MAD AS A MOTHERFUCKAH.
YOU BITCHES ON THIS SCC GON HERE A LOT MORE FROM PETER SNARL, NOW THAT CAPS AND PETER KARL PRODUCTIONS IS DEAD, BELIEVE THAT !!!
NO CAPS. NO PEACE, KEEP CAPS GOIN PLEASE!!!
Sounds like you should paint yourself with the same brush amigo. 002 is in a backlog every day. Top 10 in homicides in the city, without the projects. Still plenty of shit there. Each watch operating 3-4 down beat cars. I guess according to you the only police in this city comes from your unit? Fucktard!
9/16/2010 11:32:00 PM
Negative. 002 is 11th in homicides and 12th in agg batts. Just some lucky shooting going on in 002 with the homicides. Other than that, it is dead. I have more than a couple of buddies working there. It's a retirement district for the most part.
Says Mr. Bid Bad MSF. Get rid of half that unit too. Bunch of clowns that couldn't find their own arrest bigger than a blunt.
9/16/2010 04:02:00 PM
Mr. Bid Bad MSF?
What's that mean?
I work in 003 FYI...
"I have no clout, I am expected to work 8 hrs, change days off, get detailed and adjust hours. I answer to state represenatives, senators, alderman, the community at large, business organizations and alike. I can't tell people to go F*** themselves unlike on the street. I can't drive away and say, call the police about some B.S. again and I'll lock your ass up. Doesn't happen when you're a direct extension of the commander and deputies.
9/16/2010 10:58:00 AM"
oh, the horror...... the horror.... the horror......
all you caps bitches better find your duty belts and vests then clean the dust off!!
But who's gonna flyer after a shooting?
Never happen, the University does not want 021 to close and neither does your president or alderman Preckwinkle. Hyde park is safe because of 021 and the University. Close 021 and see what happens. Too much clout living in that area to close it in fact look for them to get a new station soon.
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Original poster here. You could be right, but if you follow the money you're wrong. Look at all the money U of C has spent in cleaning up the east end of 002. Look at them buying up the Grove Parc Complex in 003. Look at the brand new U of C police station (which is huge) and all the new U of C police vehicles. Look at how far south they're starting to go in 003.
Now look at the 021 Station, they purposely let that place fall into disrepair for a reason. 012 and countless other districts will get new stations before 021. You even hear of any talk about 021 getting a new station? The original plan was to use the old 021 Station for TRU, but has fallen into complete disrepair that they didn't even want it.
Ok follow the money, what about the property at the old Michael Reese? look for a new station right in the middle of it protecting all those fortunate people that will be living there. bet on it...
They are also held accountable for a myriad of projects and events that teach a community to sustain itself.
Oh my God, LOL. Are you freaking serious?
Right, teaching 35 year old crackheads how to set an alarm clock, explaining to people (and I use that term loosely) that you really shouldn't expect 2 year olds to be completely self sufficient, empowering hood-rat oxygen wasters to believe that their moronic dramas actually matter to anyone, or should be taken seriously...LOL. You do WAY more harm than good by encouraging these mutts to think they are worth listening to.
CAPS is a giant saucer of milk in a land infested with stray cats.
Fine keep the inside spots but have a minimum of 10 years patrol experience to even be considered. Or if serious IOD or diagnosed medical condition prohibits an officer from performing their duties as a patrolman.
did supt weiss really assign captains as inspectors to replace lieutenants
no money for police officers but weiss is tricked into paying captains to do a lieutenants job
what's next will there be desk lieutenantsto replace desk sergeants
weiss is dumber than he looks
the captains must be laughing all the way to the bank
no money for patrolman
9/16/2010 11:22:00 PM
Weis is a pos, especially how he did Bill Cozzi, and I hope for the day he leaves Chicago, never to return, but you cannot hang this one on him. Check the captain's contract.
Sounds like you should paint yourself with the same brush amigo. 002 is in a backlog every day. Top 10 in homicides in the city, without the projects. Still plenty of shit there. Each watch operating 3-4 down beat cars. I guess according to you the only police in this city comes from your unit? Fucktard!
9/16/2010 11:32:00 PM
Guess it took someone other than me to tell you ,002 district cheerleader the truth. 002 has been a dead district for over 10 years, most of the district is Washington Park, vacant lots, Bronzeville, or gentrifying areas.Your rant about how bad 002 is is just self serving delusion. 002 is 021 without Hyde Park. Go to other districts in areas 1, 2, 4 or even area 5 if you want to see real policing. Quit beating your chest deuce warrior you got nothing to brag about. Like I said and you demonstrated 002 is full of blowhards and primadonnas that can't even control the minor crime in the district, like the shootings down the street from headquarters.Re read the following post, that's from a po that, unlike you, did his/her homework.
9/16/2010 11:32:00 PM
"Negative. 002 is 11th in homicides and 12th in agg batts. Just some lucky shooting going on in 002 with the homicides. Other than that, it is dead. I have more than a couple of buddies working there. It's a retirement district for the most part".
Anonymous said...
Don't worry about MSF being disbanded the evil Lt. Leprechaun at MSF is getting rid of all the po's in his company that actually make good arrests and are taller than he is!
9/16/2010 09:33:00 PM
.................................
So you must be one of the three MSF cars caught on GPS screwing off in the 1st District a few days ago?
Have fun on your new beat car!
Wow someone who gets it! this is spot on with the exception of TRU, they have been around the longest and should stay, if you disband anything it should be MSF, the Sat teams and Midnight Teams...
TRU has been around the longest?
There are some of us who work inside that took the spot when the opportunity presented itself. The hours are good for our families. However, I personally realize how tough the guys on the street have it. Inside work is not difficult if that is what you want to do. The problem is a lot of people who work inside think its the best way to do as little as possible or play God to they guys on the street. I understand what a lot of these posts are talking about but let me just say that I always try to do my best to help the street cops. when someone comes to me for help I help when I can and let them know when I can't. All without giving an attitude. I realize nothing lasts forever and I am not too good for a beat car. The time will come when I have to hit the street and I won't cry about it. I actually prefer the street to the cry baby lazy asses and secretaries playing God, but like I said we make decisions that will work best for our families. Stay safe out there
Weis's comment abt his bitch getting the highest score for critereon possible re: mritorious promotion leads me to believe Weis may have filed some kind of fraudulent paperwork as regards merit. Gov't standards are very specific. CPD has never applied those standards and if he's suddenly saying he did, he's lying and that is a federal offense. Paperwork lies are mail fraud.
I work in 002...It's in a back log everyday because cops stay down way to long on bullshit jobs and spend more time ducking jobs then anything else! That district is dead...bunch of bullshit school attentions and crossings!
Anonymous said...
Sisters and Brothers in blue. We can call this crew house mouses or whatever. The truth of the matter is working directly with the community, politicians, businessmen and school princpals is a challenge within itself. They are also held accountable for a myriad of projects and events that teach a community to sustain itself. Our department will see with the romoval of these officers and what they do, the Watch Commanders job will become equivalent to a circus clown, as will the desk sergeant and a District Commander. CAPS Police personnel address major issues each day that our mid level managers/supervisors, do not have to add to their busy schedules. Also, the impact of the kind of things they bring to a community can and will never be replaced. Their services heighten trust with the community and police, not the bullshit the Stuperintendent is spouting. This is real work and real relationships being built. Adding 2 10-4 Units per district is not worth the loss we will experience, PERIOD!
9/16/2010 06:20:00 PM
Watch commanders are clowns with or without CAPS. White shirts with major issues such as where to eat lunch, shop and whose turn to duck today. Real work by house mice that are afraid to work the street. Who cares about the white shirts? We need officers to man the beat cars. Who cares about relationships and politicans? You live in a dream world friend. Now man up, grab a set and work a beat car. CAPS is dead.
Anonymous said...
Georgass is having the marine unit deployed this winter for the first time since 2000. That means anything that happens on the lake or river will be handled by the fire dept. even if it's crime related, unless they have to call officers back in like the night Michael Scott was found in the Chgo. River. You have a specialized unit with only about 42 people covering 3 watches , how are they going to make a difference going back on the street when they respond to jobs all year long on the lake and river as well as lagoons?
9/16/2010 09:37:00 AM
Boo hoo! A phone call Unit gets orders to eat a sh*t sandwich like everyone else? No tears over here... Join the crowd baby!!!
Never happen, the University does not want 021 to close and neither does your president or alderman Preckwinkle. Hyde park is safe because of 021 and the University. Close 021 and see what happens. Too much clout living in that area to close it in fact look for them to get a new station soon.
9/16/2010 09:51:00 AM
"Safe" because of 021?!?!? BWAH HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!! The only protection 021 has is from The 002nd District and the University Police. The 21st District is laughed at by Area 1 Det.'s and continously let down the University of Chicago Police. I actually believe 002 would be there to handle any of 021's real Police matters while 021 assigned personnel would be squabbling to get the job "re-assigned" because its "OFF MY BEAT SQUAD!" (Give them credit for being the only District upholding the "Beat Integrity" idea of the long ago past).... The University would love to have CPD back-up from Officers who would actually do the job. I wouldnt be so hard on 021 if it wasnt true..... Vote for me for the closing of the 021st District. Lets see how good things can get in "old" 021's previous beats when it actually gets reassigned to another District.
To these inside people who cry " It's better for my family !" boo fucking hoo...i raised my son by myself , worked straight mids, no old time w.c. would give a shit,and would tell you stay home where you belong...you don't like the hours or conditions? get another job. get these crybabies who haven't worked the street since probation back outside and put any one with 20+ years on all inside positions IF they want it. inside work should be for light duty and us old people. i'm here now and believe me , no one puts in a full day of work...NO ONE.
OK, close 007. Just close it up and start dropping all those coyotes off on 55th St.. That will keep the thugs inside for a while and out of any adjoining dists. Then close 011 and re-route the alligators. Let these animals getting fat on the public dime start earning their keep. Less paperwork, no CR's.
Poor supervision is the cause of many RAPS. Sgts. don't want to look at their PDT screens and call out the job milkers on anything, and it shows. One thing the Dept. needs when it undergoes its 'revamping' when WEISel walks is to completely overhaul supervision on this Dept. It truly sucks.
A friend of mine had their car stolen, with his wallet in the car, which contained all of his ID. He went to a nearby district station and was told by the desk officer that "because you have no ID, I can't take a report from you." The desk Sgt. sat there right next to the officer and said NOTHING. It wasn't until I identified myself as his friend and PO that the guy got any service....unbelievable. That a patrolman on a desk would say something that stupid to a victim of a crime, and that a Sgt. sitting so close to that idiot would make no attempt to correct him on it.
Anonymous said...
I would like Weis to explain his comment that his driver received the highest score/criteria of all the merit considered? What is that score/criteria actually based on???
If he's a driver, it cannot be arrests, movers, parkers, guns, dope, search warrants, honorable mentions, etc. So what criteria is used to rank the merits?? Other than clout?? He's the one who has been doing "business as usual."
APPARENTLY YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE SUCK-HOLE REQUIREMENT OF MERIT-CLOUT-TORIOUS PROMOTIONS IN CPD.
Georgass is having the marine unit deployed this winter for the first time since 2000. That means anything that happens on the lake or river will be handled by the fire dept. even if it's crime related, unless they have to call officers back in like the night Michael Scott was found in the Chgo. River. You have a specialized unit with only about 42 people covering 3 watches , how are they going to make a difference going back on the street when they respond to jobs all year long on the lake and river as well as lagoons?
GOOD, THE MANPOWER IS NEEDED IN THE HOT SOUTH AND WESTSIDE DISTRICTS, THAT ARE BUSIER IN THE WINTER THAN SEVERAL DISTRICTS ARE ALL SUMMER LONG. LET CFD HANDLE IT, THEY'RE CAPABLE, AND NOT OVERWORKED AS BAD AS CPD.
Poor supervision is the cause of many RAPS
and poor or de policing,no work ethic,arrogance and laziness.
You guys are whining about how ineffective CAPS is and a waste of money don't know how important it is in court reform and supporting your arrests. The waste is at the top management of the CAPS Implementation Office.
supporting our arrests in the court, or court advocacy , is done by civilians, you do not need p.o.'s to do it. just someone to arrange the cases needing advocacy. can be done by a civilian. a handful of volunteers can do 99% of caps duties.
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