More Disbanding?
Lots of rumors popping up in the comments sections. A sampling:
- Gang enforcement will be either disbanded or severely cut in half. It will happen before the end of the year... But king leo will lie to all of you and say how it is not true etc. he will have another senseless meeting and blow smoke up your asses all the while screwing you all for only his benifit. You heard it here first folks.
Any comment that says, "You heard it here first" is subject to cynicism of the highest order. However....
- Rumor has it that all the tactical teams in the city will be disbanded soon. They will return all those officers to the watch for a period while they pick large numbers of officers to be assigned to the new and improved tactical unit, which will be based at Homan Square or some other such facility. This will beef up the watches and also allow for the new teams to be sent citywide just like MSF. It will avoid beat/district realignment and will also avoid contract problems associated with detailing officers outside their assigned district. The end result will be a few extra officers on the watches in the slower northside districts and a whole lot of extra officers available for assignment to the busier south and west side districts.
That make a bit more sense. You'd have another unit made up of "volunteers" that aren't subject to certain contract provisions, including start times and assignments. You could continue to man the beat cars at the current low numbers and maybe actually improve the manning situation if officers didn't want to volunteer to be working straight afternoons/evenings in shitholes.
J-Fled isn't making any secrets about wanting to "change directions" and this is a way to accomplish it. Something is in the works.
J-Fled isn't making any secrets about wanting to "change directions" and this is a way to accomplish it. Something is in the works.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
98 Comments:
along with downsizing gangs and tact look for new incident teams and foot posts, *wink wink*, to be created on the watches to take care of the chosen ones. my district all of a sudden created some bullshit "domestic violence incident car" to hide officers removed from caps as well as other bs foot posts for others. not hating, just saying.
I don't normally post on here, but the barest of a rumor is getting out that Weis is trying to stay ahead of a Fitzgerald press conference that will occur later this week announcing a rather sweeping Federal investigation and indictment of absolutely dozens of CPD, both patrol and downtown suits for corruption.
GANG INTEL, SOMEONE HAS STICKY FINGERS!!!
I believe the eventual plan is to disband the entire Department and to turn over all law enforcement duties to COPWATCH, Operation Ceasefire and the after school citizen patrols with a little supervisory assistance from IPRA and the ACLU.
Fuck this city and its stupid voters. They are getting EXACTLY the Police Department, Superintendent and city/county/ and state government that they voted for and deserve. As for me, I retired and moved out of state, which is what I urge all of you to do at your earliest opportunity. Our pension may not be there for long anyway, so you might as well get at least some of your money out of it!
You can always send tac wherever as it is so this is just a way to rape the districts of their tc personnel...
Is this a plan to get rid of the tactical lieutenants?
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
The Chicago Police Department is going to "change directions" on or about March 1, 2011.
Look for one watch commander to handle 2 districts, coming soon.
Why would anyone want to be in a unit and do any work at all?
Yeah, it's called the Task Force.
An available pool of manpower to address issues as they arise, from (Sorry Charlie) high crime saturation missions to public disorder.
Just keep 'em in uniform.
As an outsider and former city resident, I want to say this reorganization is a really bad idea.
Tact teams are needed. They are the go getters who don't hump call after call and actually can go out and make arrests. They can put fear back into the dirtbags.
Gang units are needed. This is the third largest city in the US and it has a huge gang problem. Solution? Dump gang teams and let the gangs run wild? Sorry John Q, we're too busy to deal with them gangs...we're taking a parking complaint.
Oh, and even though I pay an insane amount of property tax for my home, go ahead and take all the police away so the criminals can come play by me. (Uh..no!)
Seriously? This is what happens when an academic and not a street cop is in charge of street cops. Even more, a non-Chicago born and raised resident. Chicagoans know Chicago. What it takes, and gives.
Mr. Supt... stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Stop digging for dirt. This isn't a textbook example. This is the real world. This is Chicago.
Bless you boys and girls in the checkerboard blues who still are the police.
Emjay
King Leo isn't lying. Gang Enforcement is going nowhere. GEU is going to get filled to capacity. The TACT teams are the ones on thin ice. Big Ernie would like to have that no one assigned to a district can be in plain clothes. District Officers wear uniforms, period! The best of the TACT guys and gals will be offered spots in GEU and the expanded MSF. Mark that in the BOOK!!!!
The guys locking up their one drinker or pisser a day will be back on a beat near you shortly. I will even go this far. Those officers who haven't been the affiant of at least one search warrant this year can forget going to GEU and will have a hard time going to any unit.
Those who don't believe what I have just typed are in deep denial.
Leo is and always has been about LEO!
What a putz!
WTF???!!!! I am fucking pissed.
Do you know how hard I worked to make the tact team? And now this?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
10/21/2010 02:25:00 AM
So you think it's easy to be on the tact team? Let me tell you, it's not!
good idea , get rid of tactical teams and 25 more field lts that will be required to work an 8 hour day , districts need officers in uniform , not blue jeans , that are allowed long lunches and short work days
cpd will not have to hire if we require police officers to work a full tour and get rid of middle management
districts do not need captains
assign captains to replace area commanders and commanders of units
King Leo isn't lying. Gang Enforcement is going nowhere. GEU is going to get filled to capacity.
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Sorry buddy, but you're wrong. Don't think they look at the numbers? That's the exact reason why they're won't be a GEU. Their numbers are awful compared to when they were in districts. They are not preventing enough violent crimes ie big dope pinches, robberies, burglaries and guns.
Keep centralizing Units so they have to drive across the City to get to their assignments. Time management? Don't need it. No District supervisors with the P.O.s to tend to the flock. No way to supervise P.O.s spread across the City.
Not worried about corruption, just need to keep the Officers focused on the mission. Doesn't happen in a City wide Unit, so keep making more of them. Those in charge are not heading in the right direction.
My Lt. told me that the gun teams are going to be disbanded. You can take that the the bank. This guy is correct .00000000001% of the time.
I know 1 baggers and pissers are not really big crimes, but if you have the same person sitting in your alley/street everyday, you'd want them locked up, people need to start locking more people up, and dare I say it, even on the watch.
Anonymous said...
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
10/21/2010 02:25:00 AM
Asswipe, 6 + 3 is 9. There is GPS you smf. Jealous 2 year wonder boy.
"Tact teams are needed. They are the go getters who don't hump call after call and actually can go out and make arrests. They can put fear back into the dirtbags."
"Gang units are needed. This is the third largest city in the US and it has a huge gang problem. Solution? Dump gang teams and let the gangs run wild? Sorry John Q, we're too busy to deal with them gangs...we're taking a parking complaint."
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You obviously have been away for a long, long, loooooong, time. Tac teams are anything but go-getters. More like go-get pissers and drinkers. Gang teams, all they do is go out and get and 1811 and go home early. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. And please, people, stop the pro-active policing! NOBODY has your back but your fellow officers. (Well, maybe...).
Anonymous said...
As an outsider and former city resident, I want to say this reorganization is a really bad idea.
Tact teams are needed. They are the go getters who don't hump call after call and actually can go out and make arrests. They can put fear back into the dirtbags.
Emjay
10/21/2010 06:24:00 AM
Sorry Emjay, hate to disagree with you but if you call locking up pissers, drinkers and getting that almighty dispersal and maybe throw in that contact card for numbers sake being a go getter you are truly mistaken. Most tact teams are made up of officers(by reverse seniority) with less than 5 years on who couldn't find a truly decent arrest(ie agg battery, robbery, homicide etc) unless the offender jumps in the car or turns himself in. I will guess Emjay you are one of those who are on a tact team and love to tell those war stories of a hard day tracking down violent offenders and making arrests for real crimes.
No Tact teams??? Who is going to work all of those district details??? Bunch of B. S.
Who gives a f*ck, you have got to have your head examined to be on one of these kiss-ass squads anyway.
If you think differently, go ask the two tact guys that were almost fired for not even being at the scene of a bitch slap on someone that deserved it.
To civilian Emjay -
Did you just call j-fled an "academic?" Pal you have no idea how far from the truth you are. He's a frickin' mental midget. Academic, my ass. Even an academic can think. Even academia has to work. He's not thinker, he's a mush.
Anonymous said...
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
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You Sir should not be the police. You are a complete tool!!!
Tact teams are a necessary evil. But we don't need 10 people on the tact team. Cut the team down to 6 people and require them to work. On third watch, you never see more then 2 tact cars (or even 1 car) after 2330 hours. One car is out there to just answer up on the radio. All the others are cut early. You think the tact teams would have stopped this practice after the P.O.. was killed in the line of duty up on 18th Street.
He was the tact car left behind to answer the radio while the rest left and it cost him his life.
Days is just as bad - come and go as they please.
3 - 6 man teams would work. They all just jump on each others arrests anyway.
The best of the TACT guys and gals will be offered spots in GEU and the expanded MSF. Mark that in the BOOK!!!!
You got to be smokin' that shit...
"The best"? Please, dont make me laugh...
Not saying if the disbanding of Tact is true or not, but one has to wonder! What will they do for details? Not the 5K run details that inside people get, but the shit details! Will they go reverse seniority for Bud Billiken or the 7 day celebration for Humboldt Park??? The taste??? Say what you want about Tact Teams but they are the ones doing that nonsence leaving the rest of us not to worry bout it!
Bye Bye Sgt Snooki Area 4 Gun Team, now go learn to be a Sgt.!
why not get rid of the 06'(incident) cars in each district. in my district there are 06 cars working on all three watches. there are ten guys and one sgt assigned to the 06 team on third watch, two 06 cars on days and two on midnights. if you ask me thats kind of overkill. why not just throw them back on the watch manning beat cars. that would give my district 18 patrolmen and one sgt back to the watches... 18 people is a lot of people to get back onto the watch. GET RID OF THE 06 CARS AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE MANPOWER!!!!!
Anonymous said...
My Lt. told me that the gun teams are going to be disbanded. You can take that the the bank. This guy is correct .00000000001% of the time.
Hey, I'm offended. I did the math. I am correct .000000000137% of the time! Take that to the bank.
Your Lt.
To the tool who says tact guys won't get on GEU....maybe no one wants to go there you moron! GEU is the only unit that won't let you leave once your assigned there! Yea my brother has put in par forms to leave and can't! What a joke of a unit...go suck Leos balls.
Patrol will disbanded and we will put the guardian angels in charge of the inner city and the NAACP can patrol and quell the out parts of the city.
With the exception of covert units(intelligence,narcotics etc) put EVERYONE IN UNIFORM in a MARKED CAR. I don't care if people are Youth Officers or Dets or any other soft clothes units,simply put DET on the veh like in other major cities. The more of a marked presence the better. If Dets had to deal with being in a GPS equipped marked unit,I guarantee their productivity would go up and F$@"King off would go down. Its come to that point.
Georgas. Has to be behind this ?
wait one>>> 14 caps p.o. went from caps to a/5 housing... haha what a joke
just over heard at a/4 all gun teams are done.
back to their districts
sorry
"Those officers who haven't been an affiant in at least one search warrant can forget about going to GEU...."
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Haaaaahaaaaaa haaaaaaa. Thats just so funny! What about the guys already in GEU that still have yet to do a search warrant. I know there are many officers in the A4 GEU who have not done one yet. If fact there is one guy who has been working the Gang Team in 011 for over 10 years and has never done one. His partner went to the A4 Gun team years ago and never did one there either. HA HAHA. You can't set standards and actually stick to them because you will be guilty of not allowing the "field to be leveled." I wish the Gang teams would go back to the Districts, if you thought POs working in tac and gang were crybabys before you should see them now. Doing less and less work but wanting more and more. Bunch of entitlement minded children with no concept of how good they actually have it. Heres a concept, shut the fuck up, earn your pay and do your fucking job. If its so bad go work in the private sector and see how you like it.
WTF???!!!! I am fucking pissed.
Do you know how hard I worked to make the tact team? And now this?
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This has to be a setup for a joke because I hope no one is that goofy, but you never know.
I saw Leo lighting up the pipe. The smoke is coming soon.
Anonymous said...
I don't normally post on here, but the barest of a rumor is getting out that Weis is trying to stay ahead of a Fitzgerald press conference that will occur later this week announcing a rather sweeping Federal investigation and indictment of absolutely dozens of CPD, both patrol and downtown suits for corruption.
GANG INTEL, SOMEONE HAS STICKY FINGERS!!!
10/21/2010 01:35:00 AM
Is this the culmination of the airport thefts investigation. IAD was seen handling the T/A cards recently.
10/21/2010 02:32:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Look for one watch commander to handle 2 districts, coming soon.
10/21/2010 05:08:00 AM
Why not! they have a dept vehicle and some DCs are known to spend very little time in their districts already. Go for it! Gotta run!
10/21/2010 06:51:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Leo is and always has been about LEO!
What a putz!
10/21/2010 07:28:00 AM
You need not worry. When j-fled is gone; so will Leo and the mrs.
Can we put Sgt B at the Satellite station at the library in 008 without a radio?
-1st Watch
Anonymous said...
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
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You Sir should not be the police. You are a complete tool!!!
10/21/2010 12:29:00 PM
Oh, I don't know. It sounds like he hit the nail on the head. LOL!
So you think it's easy to be on the tact team? Let me tell you, it's not!
I agree. Coming in with a DOPW arrest and putting the entire team in box 1 takes a lot out of you. LMAO!
"My district all of a sudden created some bullshit 'domestic violence incident car' to hide officers removed from CAPS as well as other b.s. foot posts for others."
--10/21/2010 01:17:00 AM
Aw, jeez. The "He say, she say" car. Talk about staying down on a job...
Q. How about manning some of those...what do they call them..."beat cars?"
Why do officers need to be "hidden?" Why can't they be pointed out onto the street to do a job of work? It's not like we've got enough of them.
"...along with downsizing gangs..."
--10/21/2010 01:17:00 AM
Great idea. In 025, finding "Sayre Park Gaylords" visiting cards at Grand and Harlem.
"Rulers of Grand," it says here. "Lords, Masters, Rulers."
No problem. Jody can live with that OK...doesn't even make the cat blink.
why not get rid of the 06'(incident) cars in each district. in my district there are 06 cars working on all three watches. there are ten guys and one sgt assigned to the 06 team on third watch, two 06 cars on days and two on midnights. if you ask me thats kind of overkill. why not just throw them back on the watch manning beat cars. that would give my district 18 patrolmen and one sgt back to the watches... 18 people is a lot of people to get back onto the watch. GET RID OF THE 06 CARS AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE MANPOWER!!!!!
10/21/2010 02:26:00 PM
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WHAT??? All I can say is that when there isn't enough MP to put the cars up two man, the 06 personnel are put on beat cars, which is probably most nights on my watch.. Are you telling me they are putting cars down or one man on 3rd/1st watch and putting an incident team up? That is nuts.
Back in the day, tact guys were put on the watch to fill the beat cars... (30 years ago)
Why not! they have a dept vehicle and some DCs are known to spend very little time in their districts already. Go for it! Gotta run!
10/21/2010 04:48:00 PM
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What dept. vehicle? There is NO vehicle designated for the watch commander.
(Tact) Warriors, come out to play-yay! Warriors, come out to play-yay!
Beat cop
Tact teams are a necessary evil. But we don't need 10 people on the tact team. Cut the team down to 6 people and require them to work. On third watch, you never see more then 2 tact cars (or even 1 car) after 2330 hours. One car is out there to just answer up on the radio. All the others are cut early. You think the tact teams would have stopped this practice after the P.O.. was killed in the line of duty up on 18th Street.
He was the tact car left behind to answer the radio while the rest left and it cost him his life.
Days is just as bad - come and go as they please.
3 - 6 man teams would work. They all just jump on each others arrests anyway.
10/21/2010 12:46:00 PM
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I bet you dont have many friends. You are a complete jack-ass!!!!
why not get rid of the 06'(incident) cars in each district. in my district there are 06 cars working on all three watches. there are ten guys and one sgt assigned to the 06 team on third watch, two 06 cars on days and two on midnights. if you ask me thats kind of overkill. why not just throw them back on the watch manning beat cars. that would give my district 18 patrolmen and one sgt back to the watches... 18 people is a lot of people to get back onto the watch. GET RID OF THE 06 CARS AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE MANPOWER!!!!!
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I agree. we have about 12 guys on two watches and one sgt who work on the incident cars(06 team). Dont get me wrong, they are great guys and good coppers but maybe its time they come back to the watch. pretty much they are just helping the tac team get numbers so the boss can look good at the downtown meeting. we were down 3 cars on third watch last week yet all of the 06 guys(who are technically assigned to the watch) working out of the tact office. Im not trying to knock them at all... usually the do more and better work the the tac teams but it would be better for them to fill the beat cars instead. I agree, get rid of the incident cars and put them on the watch.
" I don't care if people are Youth Officers or Dets or any other soft clothes units,simply put DET on the veh like in other major cities. . . ."
No. Been there, done that and it didn't work. They did that to us about 8 years ago and the clearance rate hit the shitter. Bad guys rarely confess to someone in uniform.
Not to mention the beat cop trying to kick me out of my own crime scene because he didn't realize I was the assigned det. Gotta give him credit for protecting the scene, though.
As a member of a tac team in Area 1, it's pretty disgusting to listen to all the bashing of the tac teams by useless, dog asses with nothing better to do.
I will be the first to agree that there is a high percentage of tac team members who are non working jags that bring in bullshit heads and do nothing all tour long, but at the same time, the tac teams are responsible for 90% of the districts arrests.
I never have and never will play the dopw, reckless conduct, gambling game that so many useless coppers do. I think that tac guys should be the ones doing the surveillances and looking for other big arrests that lead to these fucking animals actually going to prison.
At this point in my career and with all the fucking nonsense and other morale crushing shit going on right now , I truly can't blame anyone for laying down and doing the minimum, but I get so sick of people complaining about it.
I take great joy in ruining these animal, gangbanging, drug selling fucks lives. I don't do it for any other reason than the respect of the hard working, honorable policeman around me and to get court and ot to help give my family a better life. If you dog assess and jealous beat guys can't see that and respect that , just shut the fuck up bitching and get another job.
Do tac guys get an occasional duck and some perks the beat guys don't get, absolutely! I worked my ass off to get to tac almost a decade ago with no clout and no phone call. Things sure are different now and i can appreciate that patrol is the backbone of the dept. but for christ sakes worry about yourself and not what the tac teams are doing.
Disbanding all these units is the best thing these bosses have done in years. There just aren't enough cops on the watches to handle all of the calls. It is awful when we have to show up to jobs 3 to 4 hours after people call just because these lazy tact warriors are enjoying their 3 hour lunches. The watches are too short on manpower and are forced to down cars and send out 99 units placing many officers at risk.
And for all the tact warriors that complain and feel they are justified in all the "perks" of being on a tact team because they are "workers" there isn't anything you cant do on the watch or in uniform that you are doing right now. i have written search warrants, done surveillance, followed up on crime patterns, and answered calls ALL FROM A BEAT CAR. the only difference is you cant get your early ducks and you cant down a whole team to do 1 dime bag dope pinch.
Its time for all the police to stop worrying about the perks and when they can come late and leave early. stop thinking that they are owed something special and start going out there and doing police work and crime will go down.
Speaking of disbanning. Scc you have been wrong about the gun teams repeatedly. The real info: area gun teams gone by the end of year. Psn teams will move to detatched services and operate accordingly; as a task force with atf. Info on tac teams is dead on. More later
"My district all of a sudden created some bullshit 'domestic violence incident car' to hide officers removed from CAPS as well as other b.s. foot posts for others."
Not a bad idea if they actually handle the domestic calls? Do they?
10/21/2010 02:32:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Look for one watch commander to handle 2 districts, coming soon.
10/21/2010 05:08:00 AM
Why not! they have a dept vehicle and some DCs are known to spend very little time in their districts already. Go for it! Gotta run!
Hey ignoramus, learn the difference between a W/C and a D/C, then get back to the conversation. Troll!
Can we put Sgt B at the Satellite station at the library in 008 without a radio?
-1st Watch
As long as you give me a blanky and a pillow I'll take it
Sgt. B
J-Fled will be gone soon enough. I have to say that this Ernie Brown is starting to get on my nerves lately.
They should disband headquarters starting with that lying sexual harassing sh#tbag EBrown ending with that useless sex machine Lt Murphy (Whore)
"along with downsizing gangs and tact look for new incident teams and foot posts, *wink wink*, to be created on the watches to take care of the chosen ones. my district all of a sudden created some bullshit 'domestic violence incident car' to hide officers removed from caps as well as other bs foot posts for others. not hating, just saying."
CPD has always had a mastery of hiding people. So what. Nothing new here.
Nobody cares about Patrol.
why not get rid of the 06'(incident) cars in each district. in my district there are 06 cars working on all three watches. there are ten guys and one sgt assigned to the 06 team on third watch, two 06 cars on days and two on midnights. if you ask me thats kind of overkill. why not just throw them back on the watch manning beat cars. that would give my district 18 patrolmen and one sgt back to the watches... 18 people is a lot of people to get back onto the watch. GET RID OF THE 06 CARS AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE MANPOWER!!!!!
10/21/2010 02:26:00 PM
that many 06 cars what dist is that?
"The Chicago Police Department is going to 'change directions' on or about March 1, 2011."
You mean we'll no longer be headed downhill?
Have we reached the bottom already?
Bottom line is NOBODY knows what the hell is going on in this department! Decisions are made in the blink of an eye then recanted with another blink of an eye. The press conference of J-Fled regarding the brutality allegations confirms this!
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What dept. vehicle? There is NO vehicle designated for the watch commander.
10/21/2010 06:22:00 PM
1599, 2599, 0199, 0499, 1899, etc
What does a gun team do?
listen boys and girls
all captains are lts with clout
command exempt staff are patrolman,sgts,lts and captains with clout
save the pension
assign lts to command districts
then only 30% of commanders will be merit clout , it will save our pension
now 100% of command - exempt staff and captains are all political appointment and guess what we are paying their pensions
cut the bs with he's a good guy
we can live with 30% hacks but 100%
rumors are in 2011 no more test for lt , they will be selected by the superintendent wink wink
good luck
Leo schmitz for superintendent..... Woooooooo!!!
gun team - recovers a few guns
long lunches , short work day
extra ot when an arrest is made
next question
Here's something for you tact haters to chew and choke on:
The watches with few exceptions, don't do any proactive policing.
Watch personnel for the most part blow off arrests and avoid doing search warrants
Supervisors hold slips and give
early ducks to watch po's just like the do tact guys
Slow and north side districts can do with fewer tact teams than south and west side districts
The Ulimate Tactical Warrior is rarely amusing, timely, funny or clever
Uniformed officers do not deter crime
Watch personnel, for the most part know little if anything about major gang members and conflicts or crime conditions on their beats
Watch personnel opt to hide out on the desk, in inside spots, park cars or foot posts whenever possible
Watch personnel take longer to complete assignments than necessary
Watch personnel would rather harass normal working citizens and ticket them, and avoid contact with gang members
Watch personnel bitch and whine about manpower issues and officer safety; then half the watch will drop slips to have the same day off without regards for the safety of their co workers.
I've worked tact and the watch, and have no preference for either, I'm just calling it like I've seen it.
Anonymous said...
the tac guys will not like this--- no more six hour work days and three hour lunches---- also no more sneaking off to watch juniors baseball or basketball game with no slip on the a and a's----
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You Sir should not be the police. You are a complete tool!!!
10/21/2010 12:29:00 PM
Duh troof hurts...
Why don't we quit backstabbing each other and get behind a mayoral candidate who will hire more police. Just read this blog and you'll see how they're turning us against one another.
So you think it's easy to be on the tact team? Let me tell you, it's not!
Not easy but different for sure. Only handle what you want, which hopefully, if ur good, is quality arrests. However, ur also not slogging it out in the trenches with all of the nonsense that goes with being on the watch. Remember these two things along with some humility and u will do okay.
Oftentimes it is not "easy" being on the watch.
why not get rid of the 06'(incident) cars in each district. in my district there are 06 cars working on all three watches.
Really? Apparently ur district hasn't been affected by the downsizing. Good 06 guys are invaluable to the department. They are not beholden to the almighty cb # like the tact teams.
"I never have and never will play the dopw, reckless conduct, gambling game that so many useless coppers do... If you dog assess and jealous beat guys can't see that and respect that , just shut the fuck up bitching and get another job."
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I bet if I looked in your arrest activity your name will be on one of those "dopw, reckless conduct, gambling game" along with other 5 names in your tact team. Please listen and quit lying to yourself before you post.
to the person that said cut tact teams down to 6 man teams. you don't have a clue dummy. you need at least 8 but even 10 would be great to execute search warrants safely and correctly. most times you never know how many people are in the apartment or huge house that you hit. plus, we're constantly and continually hitting gang meetings and huge parties so you want to lesson our manpower on the team by 40%. You sir are an idiot. You need to shut up and go write a parking ticket or something.
Keep the 06 cars. Seems like their are a lot of jealous police officers out there. Where I came from, the WC put the humpers on the 06 cars to take care of shit. They brought in numbers each and everyday. You sound like the same guy that wants the tac teams dumped and the sat teams dumped. What? You couldn't make the cut? Typical Department - screw with something that works and doesn't need fixing.
Bye Bye Sgt Snooki Area 4 Gun Team, now go learn to be a Sgt.!
Let me guess, you are a wannabe who did not make the cut, or a know nothing know it all who was dumped.
WahWahWah
I work Tact. in a northside district. No I dont claim to be a go getter, but I do make more arrests than the watch, I do write search warrants and all of them are positive, and my team does not get the "ducks" all you keep stating all tact gets. I work my entire shift. Yes sometimes I take a little bit longer for lunch but is at the most an hour long, not this 3 hour crap as you all have stated.
My point to this ramble is that there are some officers (and none on my team are "hairgel wonders") that do their job, and even do extra than what is expected.
Now go ahead and act like kids and rip this post apart.
Sounds like SOS is otw...
Fact: The gun teams recovered more guns with 16 people than most districts. Fact: The guyn teams produced more search warrants than anyone else, including narcotics until O'Grady got there. So quit your whining. Everybody is sio quick to dump on everyone else. Its easier to get on one of these teamsthan ever before. If you can't get on one, either you do not want it or are a goof. Look in the mirror.
You obviously have been away for a long, long, loooooong, time. Tac teams are anything but go-getters. More like go-get pissers and drinkers. Gang teams, all they do is go out and get and 1811 and go home early. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. And please, people, stop the pro-active policing! NOBODY has your back but your fellow officers. (Well, maybe...).
10/21/2010 10:09:00 AM
There are so many things here that show why you are what is wrong with this job. You end your rant by saying only officers (maybe) have your back. But you are the one throwing the tact guys under the bus. You also tell people to stop working, but criticize the tact guys for not working hard enough. You are the reason this job sucks now. You should look in the mirror and realize that you have ruined this job, not Jody. F Jody. If we all really had each others backs it wouldn't matter who our boss was and we would at least be united/family.
I agree. Coming in with a DOPW arrest and putting the entire team in box 1 takes a lot out of you. LMAO!
10/21/2010 05:26:00 PM
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I hear the team from ...LOL..."strike force" has hired one of those Chinese dudes that engraves the bible onto a grain of rice to assist them in getting 300 names into the box on piss bum and loosie pinches.
here ya go...at the rate this city is going we can be the Nuevo Chihuahua Del Norte ...what-cha think by 2015?
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From this week in drugs...
n the Mexican state of Chihuahua, a 20-year-old criminology student, Marisol Valles Garcia, was named the chief of police for the city of Praxedis Guadalupe Guerrero on Monday. No one else would accept the position of chief of police in the city where the former mayor and members of the local police force have been killed and at least eight people were murdered in the last week, MSNBC reported. Garcia said that her job would not be to fight the drug trafficking, which falls to the federal government, but instead will focus on preventative programs for schools and neighborhoods to make an impact on the community.
http://crawfordondrugs.com/2010/10/this-week-in-drugs-oct-22-2010/
"Uniformed officers do not deter crime"
One of the most foolish comments I have ever seen on here...
Anonymous said...
"Uniformed officers do not deter crime"
One of the most foolish comments I have ever seen on here...
10/23/2010 11:57:00 PM
"The police are not here to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder."
Richard J. Daley
"More Disbanding?"
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And what's the matter with bands? Now we gotta break up the bands? I always liked the bands, they make good music too.
tac guys get way more perks than blue boys--- so do desk people--- if they ever started swiping in and out the crying would flood the whole city--- many talented guys work tac and many work the watch--- beat and rapid guys don't get shit anymore because of all these little snitch ass bitch coppers out there.... it is what it is.....
"Uniformed officers do not deter crime"
One of the most foolish comments I have ever seen on here...
10/23/2010 11:57:00 PM
Foolish but true. How many times you see criminal offenses committed while uniformed, and for that matter, any police officers are present?
I'll give you a run down, foolish and deluded one.
Homicides-against the police
aggravated battery against the police and others
batteries-against the police and others
assaults
DUI's
Motor vehicle thefts
robberies
narcotics offenses
various public disorder offenses ( drinking)
I've personnally witnessed most of these offenses and many others committed while uniformed officers were present
Don't walk around foolish and deluded and thing these thugs and beasts are afraid of you because of a uniform and badge. They're not.
"Foolish but true. How many times you see criminal offenses committed while uniformed, and for that matter, any police officers are present?
I'll give you a run down, foolish and deluded one.
Homicides-against the police
aggravated battery against the police and others
batteries-against the police and others
assaults
DUI's
Motor vehicle thefts
robberies
narcotics offenses
various public disorder offenses ( drinking)
I've personnally witnessed most of these offenses and many others committed while uniformed officers were present
Don't walk around foolish and deluded and thing these thugs and beasts are afraid of you because of a uniform and badge. They're not."
Never said officers were supermen that can stop every crime everywhere, all the time. But to say that their presence isn't a deterrent, not all the time mind you, is as you say, deluded...
Foolish but true. How many times you see criminal offenses committed while uniformed, and for that matter, any police officers are present?
I'll give you a run down, foolish and deluded one.
Homicides-against the police
aggravated battery against the police and others
batteries-against the police and others
assaults
DUI's
Motor vehicle thefts
robberies
narcotics offenses
various public disorder offenses ( drinking)
I've personnally witnessed most of these offenses and many others committed while uniformed officers were present
Don't walk around foolish and deluded and thing these thugs and beasts are afraid of you because of a uniform and badge. They're not.
10/24/2010 02:00:00 PM
While I realize that crimes do occur in the presence of uniformed police officers it quite imbecilic to infer that they do not deter crime at all. Using your logic, it is unnecessary to have uniformed cops at banks or social functions in which they serve as crowd control, to name just two of the many roles cops play in the area of crime prevention. Of course police officers are going to be subject to crimes against them since they are the relegated to the dangerous task of arresting violent criminals such as murderers and rapists. Until a new method of crime control is discovered having police officers around is a necessary function of our society. I was very pleased when a police officer became my neighbor and believe they deserve much praise for the difficult task of preserving the peace and deterring crime, I for one would never choose to take on such a difficult and dangerous job. Perhaps if I was on the other side of the law I would feel as you do.
Using your logic, it is unnecessary to have uniformed cops at banks or social functions in which they serve as crowd control, to name just two of the many roles cops play in the area of crime prevention.
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Thank you for impressing me with your inexhaustible knowledge of criminology, and utilizing a sociological treatise to articulate it, however, suffice it to say that your logic is more skewed than mine.
No one fears police officers anymore; anyone that works the streets and is not an armchair theorist will tell you that.
People are going to be what they are and do what they do irregardless of police presence.
Other factors influence crime and police presence is just one of those factors. Uniformed police officers do not engender fear from thugs. Law abiding people are going to follow the rules irregardless of the presence of, or lack of , police officers.
"No one fears police officers anymore; anyone that works the streets and is not an armchair theorist will tell you that.
People are going to be what they are and do what they do irregardless of police presence.
Other factors influence crime and police presence is just one of those factors. Uniformed police officers do not engender fear from thugs. Law abiding people are going to follow the rules irregardless of the presence of, or lack of , police officers."
Maybe they don't fear cops in Mexico. Here they still do. Of course not every savage is gonna care, but cops still deter crime. If they didn't, there would be total chaos. I guess the CPD should be disbanded because according to you, their presence isn't a factor anymore. This stand you're taking against cops seems a bit distorted...
Other factors influence crime and police presence is just one of those factors. Uniformed police officers do not engender fear from thugs. Law abiding people are going to follow the rules irregardless of the presence of, or lack of , police officers.
I appreciate the fact that you were able to open my eyes to the fact that there are many factors that influence the crime rate. I assumed that police officers wrote all laws that govern our society and also had the duty to enforce them. Perhaps with your profound insight you could figure out a more efficient way to deal with the problem of crime that plagues our society.
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