Street Talk
Once again, from the "brilliant minds" running the Department, we have the latest version of "Town Hall" meetings:
BOP_ 10-241[1]
Everyone remembers what happened last time someone tried to solicit input from the front line troops? The bartender was taking notes, at least one officer lost their assignment, we got lots of "umm...," "oooh...," and "we'll look into that and get back to you" answers, none of which resulted in actual change or actual addressing of concerns.
Expect more of the same.
BOP_ 10-241[1]
Everyone remembers what happened last time someone tried to solicit input from the front line troops? The bartender was taking notes, at least one officer lost their assignment, we got lots of "umm...," "oooh...," and "we'll look into that and get back to you" answers, none of which resulted in actual change or actual addressing of concerns.
Expect more of the same.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
58 Comments:
Whatever.
Why is no overtime granted? That is what one of the lines reads as. If I have to go in early and work midnights. Is this not a violation of the contract? Since I am not free to come and go as I please.
WOW ANOTHER SCAM TO STEAL IDEAS!
ALL THE EXEMPTS WITH DEGREES AND THEY STILL CANT FIGURE THEIR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND.
HOW ABOUT CUELLOS WAGON WITH A CAMERA ON TOP!
HOW ABOUT LUBERMAN GIVING GHETTO PARENTS CASH TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.
HOW ABOUT RIC FLAIR STEALING ALL THE MANPOWER AND THEN MAKING 1 BAGGER ARREST.
WHY DO THEY NEED UNIFORM FOR THE MEETING? MAYBE THEY SHOULD TEACH THE WHITE SHIRTS WHAT A BRAINSTORMING SESSION REALLY IS.
AND IT ISNT WEARING A UNIFORM AND STEALING IDEAS.
WHY NOT GET ALL THE MERIT PICKS TOGETHER AND ASK THEM SINCE THEY ARE THE BEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
Very small number of po's to attend these "talks". Only 15 pos and 5 sgts. Sounds like very personal brain picking session. Squad i got "on view", won't be able to make it to the 35th st "interview".
Looks like pos get to be "briefed" first for about an hour then the sgts turn. Getting spoooky!!!!
Oh Yeah, I want to be the guy picked by the commander and whose name HQ has in advance of the 'Street Talk' who actually says anything negative. Right, thats what I want.
And if you thought WEIS got vindictive and retaliatory when criticized, you ain't seen NOTHIN' yet.
Please tell me this order has been receded already. How many times and how load do we have to say that lack manpower is is the number one issue? Don't pretend like you would fix things if you only knew what the problem is. You know, you created many of the problems, and you have heard what we are saying. If I get picked to go I swear I won't say anything other than hire more police. It will be my answer for everything. How are you?-Hire more police.
What's your name?-Hire more police.
What beat do you work?-Hire more police.
Well at least the empty holster suckholes in R&D will be earning their "duty availability" for a few days and those of us assigned to the first watch won't have to disrupt our sleep schedules to participate in another inane meeting which will accomplish absolutely nothing.
DANGER! This is clearly a trap of some kind, or JW is working on building his resume for future employment.
Hand-picked officers and sergeants? This sounds like it is going to be a conference of "YES" people.
Also, beware of the admin. sergeant who is running this charade of a parade. He is a "YES" man and will not take kindly to anyone who crosses his line in the sand.
Again, BEWARE and proceed with caution here.
Also note the start times for first watch. two hours before the normal start so they don't have to pay you overtime. make sure you don't drive your own car to headquarters--get the squad car and apologize for being late, or fill out the OT slip!
Yess..I'm off that day. Thank you Lord
Excuse me but I will be very busy at that time; I will be watching Sponge Bob and Nick at Night reruns.
They want my input? Input this: kiss my ass! I wasted time going to one of jodypweis' dog and pony show along with aunt bea, The only ting that actually happened after listening to weis' BS promises was a new work schedule.
They lost me for good. No thanks.
Gotta run.
You hit the nail on the head 2CC! I was at the last Town hall meeting and the PO who got screwed worked the same watch with me and we met at the meeting. A whole lot of "I don't knows", "We'll get back to you" and any truly serious comments were given nasty comments by the Bartender and her taking notes of who you are. J-Fled even lied to us concerning William Cozzi. It was a joke and everyone I know left with the impression that we had all wasted our time. We all went with an open mind and hoped that this Sup would really hear us out. Only to be disappointed, treated suspiciously, and found to have wasted our time.
i want to go where they going to dump me to 011? street talk LMAO..you guys are fucking hilarious..LIFM
Sure! They want everyones name ahead of time. What better to jackpot you and silence the masses.
If they want input, all they need to do is read SCC. In fact, I'm pretty sure if they truly want input, SCC would allow them one or two posts a week to get some outstanding feedback from the people who KNOW so the people WITHOUT A CLUE can run the Police Department.
WHAT A JOKE ! ! !
wow!!!! going to that is surely a death sentence! I pity the POs that get picked
there is a border town in northern mexico currently employing a 20 year old female as its chief of police---- she only has 2 bodyguards and is not even armed--- brush up on your spanish j-fled, plenty of opportunities exist south of the border for a person with your unique leadership qualities---- ole ole ole......
Not one volunteer on my watch. Will probably have to send by reverse seniority. Waste of time.
And the signature on the bottom? Signed by a known LIAR who could not even tell the truth on a resume' for police chief in Arizona,hey ernie that made it onto the front page of a major Arizona paper your lies,please resign in disgrace!! "Respect is earned not granted" where have you earned it? How many times demoted for "unbecoming an officer shit" How many times "re promoted" due to southside preachers HOW MANY SIR??
To Westside Inside Do Nothing:
You made the "coldtype - lefty" list and we aren't publishing any more of your comments under that name, no matter how humorous, pointed or topical.
You know what you did and said and you know how to make it right. Otherwise, see ya.
As ridiculous as this order initially sounds, I have it on good authority that EB has reached out to numerous lower ranking commanders for ideas on how to turn things around. If he's open to suggestions from the cmdrs who have their ears and eyes closest to what's illing this Dept., he just might be the one to give a serious listen to the rank & file. I know, we've all been lied to in the past by Weis, Bea, and others, and I know EB's reputation ain't the best, but he might be willing to work just that much harder in an effort to turn things around....think about it: Weis, (hopefully!) Masters, Aunt Bea, Jackson, Peterson, and an assortment of other sworn & civilian political hacks may well be sent packing early next year. I'm willing to bet that Brown (for whatever reason) will remain; it's in his interest to try to turn things around, as he likely will have a shelf life of a few more years here. I'm of the opinion to 'wait and see' after these meetings have occurred, and see what changes will be made, hopefully for the better. If nothing happens, then what have we lost?
Initiative, morale & leadership are already in the toilet. The only place for this Dept. to go is UP.
SCC said...
To Westside Inside Do Nothing:
You made the "coldtype - lefty" list and we aren't publishing any more of your comments under that name, no matter how humorous, pointed or topical.
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ABOUT TIME
put 10 merit triple promoted exempts together and they won't have 30 years district patrol experience
No overtime granted? "What you talking about Willis".
I think what will happen is the wc will pick his 3 biggest suckasses from the watch
The first sign of trouble is P.O.'s and Sgt.'s are being forced to attend, otherwise no one would go and they know that. Everyone knows what a JOKE this is! Like it really matters what anyone says unless it's upsetting to Ernie and J-Fled. Then look out! These clowns at 35th know that they are hated and that they killed morale. Your best bet is to sit and say nothing. If they don't like what you said your name will be on their secret list. EB is gunning for Supt. and don't get in his way.
If they can't figure out what's wrong with the CPD by now they have no business being in charge. They should to head Walt Disney World and work security for Mr. Toads wild ride.
I hope they never pick me to go. I got nothing~
Ten Bucks says the commanders and their clout captains pick the management mommies, community policers, quality of life plain clothes guys, business liaison hacks, do nothing foot posters to go toe the company line.
Who needs the morale survey? All the sycophants say I'm great, and they love the bartender and their demographically correct commanders.
Lets see how many of them kiss enough ass to get a merit promotion in the next round.
'Officer, this is your time to shine! Go to HQ and make me proud.'
"HOW ABOUT (school superintendent Huberman) GIVING GHETTO PARENTS CASH TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL."
--10/27/2010 12:21:00 AM
Here's what a Superintendent of Schools used to be in this town --
"No account of Chicago's industrial and cultural leaders is complete without the story of Ella Flagg Young...she came here from Buffalo when she was 13 years old. At the age of seventeen, she was teaching in Chicago's public schools. This was in 1862, when the young men of our country had left the school rooms for the battlefields of the Civil War.
"Mrs. Young served Chicago schools for more than fifty years. During this time she worked as a teacher, a principal, head of the normal school, and, in 1909, superintendent of schools.
"Teachers and students in Chicago owe a great deal to Ella Flagg Young...she was among the first to advocate vocational training...she resigned...as superintendent in 1915..."
--Chicago, by Division of Curriculum Development, Chicago Public Schools, 1951
Imagine! A public official who knew something about her job -- not a "manager" being switched from socket to socket like a light bulb, which is the Daley way.
Mrs. Young's schools did not require the presence of a score of policemen before they could even open in the morning. They did not produce wild animals -- preverbal creatures hanging out of bus windows going "Huuuh-uuh!" and making obscene gestures to passers-by. Nor were "after-school programs" needed as replacements for the family.
The Daleys have so much to be proud of.
I heard they are forcing people to go reverse senority. Pathetic
"DANGER! This is clearly a trap of some kind, or JW is working on building his resume for future employment.
"Hand-picked officers and sergeants? This sounds like it is going to be a conference of "YES" people."
--10/27/2010 03:37:00 AM
Ever hear of the "Delphi Technique?" This is used everywhere today; it has already been decided that postal rates are going to be increased, or that property taxes are going to go up, or that bus routes are going to be eliminated -- and then they announce a "period for public comment" during which meetings are held at which people can yell and scream and "vent" to no avail.
"The Delphi Technique...has taken on an all new meaning and purpose. In Educating for the New World Order by B. Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is "lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process), while lay citizens were, in fact, being squeezed out."
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_
process/acf001.htm
How to disrupt the Technique --
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation
_process/acf002.htm
are they handpicking or they sending yes people im all confused now
Simply put it's the pimp surveying his future stable from the masses..you understand.
10/27/2010 09:40:00 AM
You mean "honest ernie brown"?
http://www.azcentral.com/community/swvalley/articles/2008/07/30/20080730swv-brown0730-ON.html
http://www.azcentral.com/community/swvalley/articles/2008/07/18/20080718swv-brown0719suit.html
As ridiculous as this order initially sounds, I have it on good authority that EB has reached out to numerous lower ranking commanders for ideas on how to turn things around. If he's open to suggestions from the cmdrs who have their ears and eyes closest to what's illing this Dept., he just might be the one to give a serious listen to the rank & file. I know, we've all been lied to in the past by Weis, Bea, and others, and I know EB's reputation ain't the best, but he might be willing to work just that much harder in an effort to turn things around....think about it: Weis, (hopefully!) Masters, Aunt Bea, Jackson, Peterson, and an assortment of other sworn & civilian political hacks may well be sent packing early next year. I'm willing to bet that Brown (for whatever reason) will remain; it's in his interest to try to turn things around, as he likely will have a shelf life of a few more years here. I'm of the opinion to 'wait and see' after these meetings have occurred, and see what changes will be made, hopefully for the better. If nothing happens, then what have we lost?
Initiative, morale & leadership are already in the toilet. The only place for this Dept. to go is UP.
Hehehe Hohoho Hahaha
Thank you for the laugh.
Ernie with good intentions.
Only place for the dept to go is up.
Good sarcasm. My stomach hurts from laughing.
Either the poster is a fool or EB.
*ahem*
Fuck these fools!
Haven't they had enough yet?
The smartest exempts ever in the history of CPD and they keep rehashing this "c'mon, come meet with us and share your ideas, we want your honest input."
These muthafuckahs have outsmarted themselves... Street Talk, Town Hall Meetings, Shake The Magic 8-Ball, Consult The Oracle Skull or whatever the high-flyin' fuck they want to call this stupid shit... The poot-butts allegedly in charge have had no answers and have shit on themselves from the strenuous efforts to escape and evade any and all manner of true accountability for their actions.
Any Policeman who darkens the doorway at this dumb shit is as big an idiot as the ones hosting it.
The things that really need to be addressed and corrected will result in them doubly shitting themselves to avoid discussing.
Kind of like the rumors about the CAR(bomb) meetings when District & Area level exempts were threatened with ugly if they said anything about depleted manpower.
Viva Hate...
j-fled and ernie don't want shit other than to stop the sands of time from running out on their asses.
I've got 29+ years on and am going the middle of next year. I would like to go. You can be rest assured I will speak my mind and tell the truth no matter who doesn't like it. Can I volunteer to go?
More smoke 'n mirrors coming from the president of the dog and pony show. next.
B the bartender should bring her retired hubby in for commentary. He likes to dis her bosses at parties with a microphone at hand especially with booze on board.
Just some more chair re-arranging on the deck of the Titanic. The CPD continues to sink no matter what new program, meeting, computer genius, or other bs you throw at it. Nothing, no life preserver is gonna fix it unless you get rid of leadership and slowly start building the force up again with a winning leadership team, manpower and morale.
Here's an idea. how about everyone working at 35th Street gets up off their "genius in my own mind" asses and goes out and finds some criminals to lock up, and then does it? How's that for a fuckin idea?
Anonymous said...
As ridiculous as this order initially sounds, I have it on good authority that EB has reached out to numerous lower ranking commanders for ideas on how to turn things around. If he's open to suggestions from the cmdrs who have their ears and eyes closest to what's illing this Dept., he just might be the one to give a serious listen to the rank & file. I know, we've all been lied to in the past by Weis, Bea, and others, and I know EB's reputation ain't the best, but he might be willing to work just that much harder in an effort to turn things around....think about it: Weis, (hopefully!) Masters, Aunt Bea, Jackson, Peterson, and an assortment of other sworn & civilian political hacks may well be sent packing early next year. I'm willing to bet that Brown (for whatever reason) will remain; it's in his interest to try to turn things around, as he likely will have a shelf life of a few more years here. I'm of the opinion to 'wait and see' after these meetings have occurred, and see what changes will be made, hopefully for the better. If nothing happens, then what have we lost?
Initiative, morale & leadership are already in the toilet. The only place for this Dept. to go is UP.
10/27/2010 09:40:00 AM
Sad try Ernie. Go try and bullshit somebody else. Yes, we will go UP someday after 01 March 2011, but the only acceptable assistance you can offer is a promise to leave out along with J-FLED.
To Westside Inside Do Nothing:
You made the "coldtype - lefty" list and we aren't publishing any more of your comments under that name, no matter how humorous, pointed or topical.
You know what you did and said and you know how to make it right. Otherwise, see ya.
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About. Fucking. Time. Thanks SCC
I'm willing to bet that Brown (for whatever reason) will remain; it's in his interest to try to turn things around, as he likely will have a shelf life of a few more years here. I'm of the opinion to 'wait and see' after these meetings have occurred, and see what changes will be made, hopefully for the better. If nothing happens, then what have we lost?
Initiative, morale & leadership are already in the toilet. The only place for this Dept. to go is UP.
10/27/2010 09:40:00 AM
Thank you downtown Ernie Brown for the comments. We need leadership to go up.
Oh my G-D pick me please!!!!!! I already work in a shit district with shit bosses on the shitty 1st watch, what's left for them to do to me? Hey big Ern, I've got lots to say but are you really willing to listen?
-F/U Jpuss & Lil' Dickey
I will only attend if Parus from 009 goes. It will be a SNL skit in the making
What a joke. In 6 months when j-fled is gone and the upper ranks are re-shuffled, what will be remembered from this meeting? Just what anyone who attended a 'town hall' meeting wants to do. Go somewhere where you are in full uniform, they have your name in advance, and you have been 'approved' by your district commander
No thanks.
Screw you Ernie Brown!! Stick this up your ass!!
If the 25 district commanders share at least a half brain and one testical, they would each send all females to the first swap meet(ing) on November 8.
Uh huh. Been at this meeting when he had them for OCD. What a crock of crap.
If you make 120,000+ and have a gold star you should have a clue.
YOU should be able to give orders and have ideas and solutions.
Or give up you "spot" to an officer that does.
In a corp. world you would not last a week without ideas and solutions
"Town officials said they discovered 'inconsistencies' in the background investigation of Ernest Brown..."
http://www.azcentral.com/community/swvalley/articles/2008/07/30/20080730swv-brown0730-ON.html
...This is one of our leaders??? Little wonder the department is so screwed up.
Institutionalized corruption. A Chicago hallmark and a Daley legacy.
I wish they'd pick me!
I'd sit in the back and pick the lint off my pants.
Also note the start times for first watch. two hours before the normal start so they don't have to pay you overtime. make sure you don't drive your own car to headquarters--get the squad car and apologize for being late, or fill out the OT slip!
10/27/2010 03:37:00 AM
What crack pipe are you smoking? We've been starting at 2100 for almost a year....apparently you don't work midnights!!
Anonymous said...
As ridiculous as this order initially sounds, I have it on good authority that EB has reached out to numerous lower ranking commanders for ideas on how to turn things around. If he's open to suggestions from the cmdrs who have their ears and eyes closest to what's illing this Dept., he just might be the one to give a serious listen to the rank & file. I know, we've all been lied to in the past by Weis, Bea, and others, and I know EB's reputation ain't the best, but he might be willing to work just that much harder in an effort to turn things around....think about it: Weis, (hopefully!) Masters, Aunt Bea, Jackson, Peterson, and an assortment of other sworn & civilian political hacks may well be sent packing early next year. I'm willing to bet that Brown (for whatever reason) will remain; it's in his interest to try to turn things around, as he likely will have a shelf life of a few more years here. I'm of the opinion to 'wait and see' after these meetings have occurred, and see what changes will be made, hopefully for the better. If nothing happens, then what have we lost?
Initiative, morale & leadership are already in the toilet. The only place for this Dept. to go is UP.
10/27/2010 09:40:00 AM
Do you have one of those "tactical" packs for water on your back filled with the Kool-Aid? Holy shit, get real..........
Duz dis count az a fool toor ov dooty?
Anonymous said...
are they handpicking or they sending yes people im all confused now
10/27/2010 04:05:00 PM
They asked for 3 volunteers in 007. If nobody volunteers it gets picked by reverse seniority here. So far no volunteers with an hour left to decide. Ha Ha
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