Friday, May 27, 2011

Oh My Baby!

  • Chicago police shot and killed a 15-year-old boy after he pointed a gun at officers who were investigating a robbery in the South Shore neighborhood, authorities said.

    The suspect was identified as Tatioun Williams of the 1300 block of East 69th Street, according to police and the medical examiner's office.

    "They (are) lying. My son would never carry a gun," said his distraught motheer, Lois Pickett. "He ain't never done that, they can't say that."

    "The police officers killed him!" she cried in a telephone interview with the Tribune. Tatioun was the oldest of five siblings.

    "Yes, he has (previous arrests), but that's not a reason to kill him," Pickett said between tearful sobs. "That's no reason to kill a child."

    "They could have taken him to jail, they could have done anything but taken his life."

Blah blah blah. Police planted the gun, police shot him for no reason, police are lying for no reason, he was just about to turn his life around, he wanted to rap and play basketball, he almost got a "C-" on that last exam, yap yap yap.

We're sure he was out looking for good deeds to perform after 8 PM on a school night when those darn police somehow found a gun, a wallet, an i-Pod and an insatiable appetite for blood, located his previously arrested ass and shot him for shits and giggles.

Give us a fucking break Tribune. How about investigating what his other arrests were for? Where he got a gun? What sort of student he was? What kind of parent momma was? We suppose she would have been ecstatic if her child managed to actually kill a cop.

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119 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was gonna be a contender!

5/27/2011 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another future IR number,link card holder dead glad CPD is ok,whenever the heat gets here (Not the heat that stung gang banger rose),the summer heat the animals are just waiting to attack the innocents!

5/27/2011 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do some of you people still support the sun times and tribune is what i want to know? call your friends and family and explain to them what time it really is in chicago and cancel it. p.s. tell them why you are too.

5/27/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tatioun?!

Wasn't that a planet in Star Wars?!

Wasn't it home to Luke Skywalker?!

You bastards...you blew it up!

5/27/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There goes that check, mama!

5/27/2011 12:23:00 AM  
Blogger It's McTwitter! said...

Everybody out there in the crappy neighborhoods know the gangbangers are out of control. What the fuck is with the Tribune peddling this shit? Crap newspaper, except for Kass and Doonesberry cartoon. Glad I canceled years ago.

5/27/2011 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Now my welfare check gonna bees smaller said...

Fuck this ignorant ghetto breeder. If she had done her job as a parent, her 15 year old shithead son, who's already been arrested multiple times, would have been at home doing his homework, not out on the street with a gun doing armed robberies and pointing the gun at cops.

This little asshole got exactly what he deserved and momma should STFU. And shame on the Tribune for even writing this stupid story.

5/27/2011 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I happened to get into a conversation from a dear friend and her boyfriend (he is from Holland)..... He asked me why don't we shoot to wound???? I simply looked at him, who is a Chicago resident and said, "do you think they shoot to wound??"..... "We are clearly taught to shoot to incapacitate". He didn't get it..... Then I said...... "Do you expect to come home every day from work? Do you think others in your building are going to fling stapler guns at your head for NO REASON other then, that they feel like it? " I then asked him, "Do you want to go home to your only child everynight? Does your child want you home, knowing your are doing the most dangerous job in the city? AND no one gives a shit about you, and if you come home other then your family?"....... Being from Holland and their arrogance he was TONGUE TIED.... GAME ON!!!!! He shut the hell up, and I think I might have converted a European!!!!

Screw the liberal fucks that think we should just shoot them in the arm, they don't get that we have to shoot them in the head, bury the head with garlic stuffed down their necks a mile away from the body inorder to incapacitate them!!!!!! Gawd, when is the world going to wake up!!!!

5/27/2011 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy, come on out and show face, it's time

5/27/2011 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do the Honor students who die ever have the same last name as their mother?

5/27/2011 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is where our taxes are going. We put food on their table, roofs over their heads. And this is how they pay us back! by trying to kill cops!

5/27/2011 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mama knows her son had a gun and she knows the police were justified in shooting his ass.
She's a bad actor trying to play hurt for the media. She wants $$$ that's all.

5/27/2011 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"child slain by police"

nice headline trib... racebaiters

5/27/2011 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Da Momma is yellpin because her lawyer told her to. You know the city is going to shell out some $$$ just to close her mouth and have her vanish. The way it is.

5/27/2011 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know who's worse; Mama playing prankster crying wolf or the media pimping this bullshit story to the uninformed, naive public.

5/27/2011 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

more like he almost got a "D" on his last exam.

5/27/2011 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do all this police work? Just go to 018 where they give you an honorable mention for a "holding the offender"? The store saw the women commit a crime, they detain her, call the police, and then officer put himself in for an "honorable mention"? Look at me, and how many awards I have working 018! Department Comondation "the highest award the department offers" thats why I put myself in for it for every shoplifter I get.

5/27/2011 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember hearing shit like this on the news even when I was a kid. Nothing has changed, and it never will. The newsmedia is so full of crap. I never go out of my way for them in any capacity on the street like I see some PO's do. For the life of me I will never figure out why some do

5/27/2011 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont care how old u are point a gun at me ill kill you and drive by ur house and wave at your people maybe you'd like to join him?..LIFM..good job MOM!

5/27/2011 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

I think the story was fair. You're being a bit oversensitive about this.

It mentions the armed robbery victim, the gun, the IPOD and the dearly departed pointing said gun at the Sergeants.

Momma said her son was good and the nasty police shouldn't have killed him. That's not exactly a new storyline.

Now if she had said her son was a deviant piece of shit who was a danger to his neighbors and family THAT would be a bigger story.

It's also a hell of a lot closer to the truth than what she said.

5/27/2011 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous fark.com said...

Read THESE comments...

Seriously, funny stuff here.

http://www.fark.com/comments/6238609/Mother-says-police-shouldnt-have-killed-her-teenage-son-Just-because-he-had-five-prior-arrests-And-he-was-pointing-a-gun-at-police?cpp=1

5/27/2011 03:42:00 AM  
Anonymous The Patriot said...

A 15 Y/O can make you just as dead as anyone else. Good Job Sgt.

5/27/2011 04:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Media, how about interviewing victim who went through that whole frightening near death ordeal? Instead headlines read: "child slain by police". What dirty rotten Mother Fuckers you are!

5/27/2011 05:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a suggestion to save the Tribune some money. Rather than send out a reporter, simply distribute "Ghetto Shooting" forms where the Baby Mama/Daddy fills in the blanks! For example:

"The Police shot my Boy ______ for no reason. He never carries a knife/gun (circle one) and was an Honor Roll Student at _______. He has been arrested _______ times for Robbery/Assault/Murder/Weapons Violation/Parole Violation/Rape/Burglary (circle one) but was turning his life around, and didn't deserve to die like a Dog".

With this money saving tip, maybe the papers would be able to send reporters to check out rumors of Wilding on Michigan Avenue!

5/27/2011 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY do they interview these lying, useless, assholes who spawn savages that go out and fuck with everyone else? WHY?

When did these people cease to be a joke?

---not a cop

5/27/2011 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish the police could shoot him again. And again. Thanks for taking this dirtbag off our streets and making us safer.

5/27/2011 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What matters is that the Officers are safe. Point a gun at a cop, you lose. That is the way it has to be, nothing else is acceptable.

5/27/2011 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous JAFO said...

Although it is an unfortunate event, these "events" happen too often and the media is afraid to question "the other side" as you did in your commentary.

People who live WAY out in the suburbs or on the North Shore have no clue as to what these neighborhoods breed and encompass.

The closest "taste" is when they might come in contact with a small sample of it at either an event like the "Taste of Chicago" or more recently, the wilding incidents on North Michigan that the media is afraid to talk about.

It is another world with an indignant attitude and set of warped values.

Those who are naive about it have no right to judge those who have to be immersed in the middle of it to try to keep civilized
order.

5/27/2011 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Todd Gak said...

I was shanghaied because I was in a specific day off group designated "desk personnel." Not one of us knew what we were doing, but the "Old Sarge" held it together, and taught us how to do the job.(Yeah, it sucked) Kept coming up "light" on the bond money at the end of tour. First few times, it was $5-10 each to avoid the cr number. After we hit $20 each, we laid a trap, and found out the civilian aide was grabbing the bucks.

Experienced Desk Sgt always keeps bond $$$ in his pocket

5/27/2011 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These kinds of articles are exactly why I don't read any newspaper. What the fuck kind of editor would allow this kind of crap to be printed??????????

5/27/2011 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And oh yeah, they should have shot the gun out of his hand, not killed him!

5/27/2011 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably 5 absent baby daddy's too!

5/27/2011 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The public schools should teach a class to these boobs. ATTENTION BOOBS!! Life is not a rap video. If you point a gun at, or shoot at the police, prepare to die!!!

5/27/2011 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that they didn't photoshop the little tykes picture and have him wearing a graduation gown and holding a diploma! LOL!

5/27/2011 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was turning his life around, for realz.

He was gonna be a doctor, or lawyer, or astronaut. Da Po-leese done kilt mah baby!

5/27/2011 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This becoming nothing more than a dangerous factory job, with bad hours and worse days off. No pension no hope.

5/27/2011 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

"little boo" made the biggest mistake of his short unproductive life by pointing a weapon at a police officer--- the outcome would have been the same in new york, boston, los angeles, etc.... another idiot going up to boot hill...

5/27/2011 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please SSC he's a domestic terrorist robbing ppl all up and down 71 and jeffery. Ppl over look him because he's short and looks real young! That mother has 3-or 4 other kids that are just as bad!

5/27/2011 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help the Tribune out. When you receive those endless letters they send begging you to suscribe, send back the postage paid envelope empty. They get charged to process these envelopes. Let's help those race baiting liberals go under sooner.

5/27/2011 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yall make these same comments on this blog. Its a tit for tat. Just dont buy the paper. Just be happy everyone made it home.

5/27/2011 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the details for TRU and MSF. Am I reading it right? Did some people have their detail cancelled and just got back to 001 and 016??

5/27/2011 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Police shot my Boy ______ for no reason. He never carries a knife/gun (circle one) and was an Honor Roll Student at _______. He has been arrested _______ times for Robbery/Assault/Murder/Weapons Violation/Parole Violation/Rape/Burglary (circle one) but was turning his life around, and didn't deserve to die like a Dog".

_______________

You forgot to add that he goes to church every Sunday.

5/27/2011 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to understand that "police stories" is what sells the news papers....same with movies ..they are always cool. They like to print that shit! Even if it means destroying police officers life and reputation . This assholes will put a nice front page saying "two police officers arrested" and couple of days later apologize on page 67 in small print ohh sorry wrong information. I say fuck em, their days are numbered anyway....I can't remember last time I bought a news paper. I get news on my phone. Red eye is what hurts us. It's free but it will too go away. So here I stand and say.. fuck you tribune and suntimes I hope all you anti police mother fuckers burn in hell.

5/27/2011 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will have to ask my dad if they shot to wound the enemy he was in Vietnam!!!!

5/27/2011 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/27/2011 01:59:00 AM writes: "I thought the story was fair."

The first story that was written was one of the worst one-sided stories in a while. The headline said it all. WHat you read was the story as it appeared on day two. It was very much toned down.

What this means is that the tribune editors cannot even get it together enough to do a objective job the first time they are presented with such crap. (yeh that means you trib guy reading this)

5/27/2011 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Try calling FOP with a contract question. You get no answer, and then voicemail with no return call.

5/27/2011 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish, for one day...I could put Michigan Ave in the middle of 007...and not provide police service. They might sing a different tune.

5/27/2011 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mccarthy is to busy drinking the kool aid to show his face. Its only taken two weeks to realized things wont change.
I know a lot of people are happy to see TRU/MSF decentralized, which is fine, its his decision, but the incompetance in this department has shown thru. Having to try and get this list of officer assignments out going on three day is pathetic. It keeps changing because the bosses arent getting there people into the proper spots so they keep reallocating bodies. Meanwhile the officers who mccarthy called, best of the best, are pissing into the wind wondering where they are going to be assigned to

5/27/2011 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPS should teach it, they still teach a class on how to beef now that's interesting, cover that media

5/27/2011 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Hopefully this little miscreant hasn't had a chance to sucessfully replicate err, spawn uhhh, reproduce... If he didn't, it's a bigger win for society as a whole than originally thought.

That's the truth and you know it...

...We're literally in the midst of a Civil War on these streets.

Keep killing them with all due malice and prejudice until they finally realize we mean business when it comes to our survival.

Though there are powers that wish we would just "shut up that noise," bravely take the bullet and die quietly so they can speechify, pontificate and wipe false tears for bright TV lights.

They cheered when the big-head former fed made it widely known that he had malicious and vengeful intent toward The Police.

Our very reasonable & common sense overall response of going into deep survival mode denied him of the willing sacrifices he was looking for, thus he was truly angered and went out of his way to hurt Policemen on a pretext. The exempts nodded in agreement. (You traitorous dogs.)

Dude on the corner took this as a sign that they could "take it to the Police" without any repercussions. This was wholly encouraged by the majority of the public, the media, the politicians (including the former and current mayoral administrations) while no one in the Department hierarchy found it within themselves to vigorously denounce what was occurring. Their inaction and silence played a big part in a lot of new stars hanging on the wall at 3510.

The actions we take are very much needed yet the public, the media, the politicians (yes, up to and including the mayor) and even our Department hierarchy thinks we're the enemy. So much of their actions and word play indicates a deeply held desire for us to just be quiet, hold still, stop making so much noise about the corruption of the status quo. We're hated and reviled for our refusal to go along with the ongoing massive orchestration of public deception.

The public unwittingly will pay a price for the politics and game playing we try so hard to expose.

They smugly call it "complaining."

They don't realize they're literally the guests of honor at their own funeral if not for our "complaining."

We realize that there are precious few people in this city understand and actually "get" what we've been yelling about for years.

Our struggle is for them... Our struggle is for our families and friends and believe it or not; our struggle is for each other. All others can go to Hell and the Devil.

Choke on your false notion of Police being out of control for rejecting the downcast eyes and servile posture of de facto indentured servitude. "Humble public servants" does not fit what the Men and Women of CPD endure and do.

We're not here to please and serve men and their whims.

We serve and put it all on the line for the constants.(and all that implies) Not the everchanging variables. Got it?

Heroes is more appropriate.

This city tries very hard to prove itself unworthy of past, current and future sacrifices of blood, sweat, tears of outrage, broken bodies, broken hearts and wounded spirits.

The Policeman has become disposable it seems... To this we can attest, swear and aver.

Stay safe all.

Verily and Amen...

RANT: on/(off)

5/27/2011 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow on that bond money! Lol!

5/27/2011 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Twenty bucks says we see mom on all the Live at 5 stations telling everyone how he was going to be some great doctor or a future pillar for the community.

5/27/2011 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was thinking about getting ready to look into asking someone about what he needed to do to get a GED.

adios MF'er

5/27/2011 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: Cpdcoppurr
Sir, may I suggest that you invite your friend and her boyfriend to visit 35th St. and view the Honored Star's.
These men & women never had " the gun shot out of their hands ", or were " just wounded ". They were murdered, some by ambush, some by cowardly snipers, and many, to many, before they drew their own weapons.
This is the price WE & OUR families pay.
Stay safe & take care.

5/27/2011 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F-you tribune (lower case t)! That's the same message you send to quality people when you use that type of headline and allow a criminal mother to vent.

5/27/2011 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
more like he almost got a "D" on his last exam.

-------

I think you mean he ALMOST went to school that day to earn an ALMOST D on his last exam.

5/27/2011 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ghetto mom... explain the 9 year old with a gun near 122nd and lafayette...

Is he just a misunderstood youth too?

5/27/2011 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Walk with caution.. Walk with fear... The real police all tight up in here...

5/27/2011 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention.... Breaking News...
If you point a gun at the Police.. You are going to get shot...

5/27/2011 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say bye bye female Lt at midway. And your husband too. Hey Leo stop asking everyone above you to go to football games. That's why you have been so quite cause you know your gone! A real cop is in charge and won't believe your used car sale approach

5/27/2011 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His life was taken to soon. Could've made money for some cops one day. IE overtime. (sarcasm) You know this kid was on his way to being a career thug. On flipside I'll take him where he's at. To bad no court date for him. He can't harm any officers now. Great job! Be safe!

5/27/2011 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck him, his mama,and the Tribune.

5/27/2011 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Law and Order said...

"Do the Honor students who die ever have the same last name as their mother? "

--Great Question! So F'ing TRUE!!

5/27/2011 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Law and Order said...

"What matters is that the Officers are safe. Point a gun at a cop, you lose. That is the way it has to be, nothing else is acceptable.

AMEN!

5/27/2011 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The boyz family knew him as "Tatioun" but people knew him in the hood as "Robbin".
We need to have Maury Povich to search his DNA database for the sperm donor and lock him and mama up for Child Neglect.

5/27/2011 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about investigating what type of mother she really is? how come she didn't know where her son was? what steps did she take to keep her son out of trouble after his first arrest? where was the father in his life? do all her children have the same father? did she help her child with his homework? what kind of grades did he make?

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. if the tree is bad, the apples will be bad.

5/27/2011 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Dave in Albany Park said...

Screw the liberal fucks that think we should just shoot them in the arm

I am a liberal fuck and I don't think that at all. I think violent criminals deserve what that get and I support concealed carry for non-criminal citizens.

The police have supporters of law enforcement and of the rule of law from across the political spectrum.

Besides, does Holland even HAVE criminals?

5/27/2011 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a non officer. I was taught at an early age, that when a cop tells you to stop, do it. Don't goof around or argue. It something that thee lunkheads can't grasp. Years ago I had a suburban cop train a gun on me, mistaken identidy, at a 7-11. Trust me, I froze in my tracks and listened very carefully what he had to say. Until the store clerk confirmed that I was not robbing the store. All I can think to this day, is one stupid move and I would have had a hole in my chest. And thank god he was jumpy either.

5/27/2011 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My parrot became constipated because he refused to even shit on the Scum-Times or the Libune.

5/27/2011 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger David Snethen said...

The second this little thug put that gun in his pocket, he is no longer a 15 year old kid. He is now an armed thug looking for a victim. He should be buried and forgotten.

5/27/2011 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's just take the scenario piece by piece:

You are heading to the scene where you KNOW the offender has a gun, and is brazen enough to point it at someone in an attempt to gain property.

You see the offender running and tell him to stop.

He points a gun at you, and you know his motivation is not to gain property! You know his motivation can only be that he wants to stop you from catching him! He can only do that in one way! That is to shoot you!

You must protect yourself, not only for yourself, but for your innocent, well-behaved family, who is waiting for you to coach the baseball game tomorrow, etc.

How long do you wait to see if he shoots first? Do you have time to lign up the sights? Do you only have time to point the gun in the direction of the OFFENDER who is trying to kill you? You have never committed a violent act against a person in your life. You are now forced to protect your life by shooting a human being. Your hands are shaking, and your heart is racing!

WOW!!! All that in the seconds that you have to decide to live or chance dying!!!

Not to mention the fact, that even sharp shooters usually have time to set their sights and aim carefully, and still miss their target point! Even if we were taught to shoot to injure, the public could not afford the ammunition to train all the officers to attempt to be sharp shooters!

Wake up people! Wake up media! Wake up ghetto parents! You want your children safe? Teach them to live safe!!!!

5/27/2011 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT from the FOP


Police officers who work for the Illinois State Police, Department of Natural Resources, and the Secretary of State are drastically affected by this bill. Current employee contribution rates will double and can be increased further every 3 years under this legislation.

We are very concerned for all members because the House Pension Committee Chairman, Representative Kevin McCarthy has been was recently asked about police, fire, and IMRF employees being excluded from the current bill, "Those workers can be addressed in a separate bill next year."

5/27/2011 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charged him with Robbery 5 months ago, look up his rap sheet!!!!!!!!!

5/27/2011 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he was just about to organize his community.

5/27/2011 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People who live WAY out in the suburbs or on the North Shore have no clue as to what these neighborhoods breed and encompass.

I call bullshit! Where do you think the Vaneckos, Kennedys, etc. come from?

5/27/2011 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T. :
Today's Tribune has an editorial talking about the pension reform bill and they are all for it. Do you think if it was something that was going to change their retirement, without their input or permission, they'd still be all for it?

It's scary and sickening how many idiots there are out there who want no part of our job or the shit we deal with but are quick to want to deny us the pension that was promised us.

5/27/2011 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a recent reader of SCC, I wondered why the term "Hair Gel" came to be so prevalent. Then the other day I watched five young POs leaving court because their case (for which they had been notified) had been continued... four of the five had their hair spiked up with gel...only the bald guy didn't.
Made me think of SCC and smile.

5/27/2011 03:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wish the police could shoot him again. And again. Thanks for taking this dirtbag off our streets and making us safer.

5/27/2011 06:38:00 AM


WHOA! Hold on there Tiger.

First off, overkill isn't necessary.

Second, taking someones life is not a first, or simple choice. We're trained to do so as a last resort. Someone pointing a gun at us IS a last resort, however.

Third, if its necessary to take a life, thats one thing, but you can assume you will be sued, will face INCREDIBLE scrutiny, accusations and second guessing of your actions and probably do a lot of your own soul searching about the incident. It is not a choice to be taken lightly.

And finally, if we're lucky, most of us get by without shooting ANYONE during our entire career. That should be the goal for us all, since we don't know how a shooting will effect US.

One officer in my academy class shot and killed an armed robber who tried to rob her in her apartment complex parking lot. Clean shooting and there was a crime pattern on the bad guy. She got the award of valor, and probably could have had a very successful career based on this one heroic act. Instead, she was so devastated by the incident that she resigned before even finishing probation.

5/27/2011 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Check out the ISP blog for the new pension math

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21314452&postID=8962725007439734520

5/27/2011 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually met the young at his high school. He had just finished reading " A Brief History of Time". His insight of Hawking's work was brilliant as it was profound. He was even able to explain it to me in a way that I could understand. I would have liked to have chatted more with this remarkable young man, but he had a prior commitment at his church's soup kitchen where he volunteered 3 times a week.

5/27/2011 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bad guy is gone and the police were unharmed. Sounds like a good outcome to me. The only regrettable part of this story was the trauma suffered by the police officer. He did what needed to be done and society is better off.

As for mama, she's a loser and so was her ill begotten son.

5/27/2011 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

i was going to cancel my subscription, but they reported fairly Sorry SCC

5/27/2011 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First let me say, I hate the media. But the Tribune did nothing wrong here. The facts are the police shot and killed a 15 year old during a Robbery call. His mother agreed to talk to the Tribune. The Tribune printed quotes from the mother. No member of the department will stand in front of the media and dispute the mother's claims. The department will not say the 15 year old was arrested "X" amount of times, and list the offenses. Who cares if he's a juvenile, he's dead so you can't ruin his reputation. His arrest history will be a matter of public record if a law suit is filed. If you are writing a story and only one side gives you something to print, you print what you have. Be angry with the department.

5/27/2011 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they spit on you u cant slap them. If they try to kill u you cant defend yourself and shoot back. WTF Lets go mcCarthy step up

5/27/2011 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru live on Tattoine with Luke Skywalker

5/27/2011 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Go CHA GO!! Let the drug testing begin.
The residents say it's a slap in the face to be required to be drug tested in order to receive public housing.

Well it's a slap in my face to pay taxes so a group of citizens that don't want to and refuse to work receive money for sitting in public housing drinking, smoking dope, and having kids they refuse to support.
How about intervening there ACLU.

5/27/2011 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any time a Mother loses a Son it has to qualify as a tragedy, B.U.T. when your grief is channeled into nothing more than a template for profit you are truly a hideous excuse for a human being. Unfortunately the Black Community seems to bear the brunt of this and the need to consructively address this is long overdue. You'd think with an individual in the White House of color maybe it would be a turning point, instead it has just made the entitlement mentality explode. If this happens on a 90 degree summer night the city could burn and it will. Its a sad commentary that a certain community resorts to grief as its only growth industry. Thank God our guys are OK.

5/27/2011 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous AmericanNinJoe said...

I think the most irresponsible part of this reporting is the Officer safety issue. These kinds of articles that play the harp to these fallen dirtbags discredits the good work that is done. Even worse, it continues to incite crowds of ignorant people against us, making them believe the police will kill you for no reason. It continually puts us in more danger as we the good guys keep getting our roles reversed as the dirtbags. Then, these same newspapers that put is in continual danger, hypocritically place on the front cover the picture of a fallen officer when it happens. I say that newspapers that are always putting us in a bad light, should be publicly condemned when they cover a fallen officer by the FOP or anyone who can for their hypocracy.

5/27/2011 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How soon until another mad dog from that litter has to be put down?

5/27/2011 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help the Tribune out. When you receive those endless letters they send begging you to suscribe, send back the postage paid envelope empty. They get charged to process these envelopes. Let's help those race baiting liberals go under sooner.

5/27/2011 08:31:00 AM

Why not bundle a few bricks together and send that to them? Maybe the post office will charge them a few hundred dollars.

5/27/2011 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw this posted elsewhere on this blog and think it is appropriate: Mcpuppet should be the official Second City Cop name for the new supe.

If you need more proof than the fact that he met with that shithead pfleger, you are nuts.

That and the fact that redeploying police was 'Rahm's plan.'


I'm sure Mcpuppet was told what time of day it was by Rahm. There's no way the micromanaging ballerino would let the supe define policy, let alone implement it, without his direction and approval.

You're all suckers if you think things will be different this time around. I wish I had some faith left in me, but the last guy crushed it right out of me.

Please do not do any proactive policing. Protect yourselves and your family's assets from being turned over to some shithead.

Putting that many coppers into that limited amount of districts is going to be a disaster when there are not enough cars or radios.

Coppers are already riding 3 deep in some of those districts.

How is this guy's hasty first move any different than the mass dump jfled did on the commanders?

He didn't take the time to make a thoughtful decision. He shot from the hip without taking aim.

5/27/2011 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous BrokeCityWorker said...

Will you coppers plezzzzzzz... stop shooting these honor students ? I can't afford anymore unpaid furlough days to pay for the law suits. Good Job !!!!

5/27/2011 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that they didn't photoshop the little tykes picture and have him wearing a graduation gown and holding a diploma! LOL!

To young to have graduated already. C'mon what are you thinking?

5/27/2011 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous HATER said...

REPORTERS HAVE FORMATTED REPORTS JUST LIKE DETECTIVES.

ADD THE NAME,ADDRESS, PART OF BODY WOUNDED AND SOME KINDA OF GREAT THING THESE JUVENILE DELINQUENTS WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

SO DONT HATE THEM JUST READ AND LAUGH I GET MORE INFO OUT OF THE COMMENT SECTION ON THE ONLINE ARTICLES.

5/27/2011 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE exact reason this reader cancelled the Trib last year.

5/27/2011 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mah baby got kilt!

5/27/2011 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't bought the trib in years, don't know who even advertises in them. Boycott any advertiser and call them and let them know why you won't ever purchase their product. Let the animal buy their product. Never once saw red pop and flaming hots being advertised in the trib.

5/27/2011 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best part of all is the other little shithead who was with him was locked up today on felony murder. It is close in my civilian mind anyway to one shot, two kills. I think the felony murder rule is actually one of if not the best law on the damn books. It is one sweet bitch for the thugs in the hood. Two little jagoffs no longer on the street. Well the one today will be off for what, until he turns 21 in a few years?

5/27/2011 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12 DISTRICT
ALL STAR REPORT

011 DISTRICT HAD A HORRENDOUS POLICE SHOOTING LAST NIGHT USING CLOSE TO 100 OFFICERS AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS.

SOME PISS ANT 12 DISTRICT DWEEB CALLS FOR A UNIT FROM 011 TO DO AN ACCIDENT REPORT ON WESTERN BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET.

SO IN PASSING CAN THE SGT'S IN 012 START TO USE THEIR BRAINS AND NOT WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S AT POMPEIS WHEN IT CLOSES.

Well Im sure the guy from 012 had no idea this was going on in 011 since they do not share zones nor did the dispatcher say anything about a police chase/shooting in 011. Officers in 012 handled the accident. Before you start using all caps. Did you see the officers complaining? Initial radio transmission that I heard was the officer call for 011 but then said they were going to stay there to help out with traffic control. They did not pitch a bitch about it when they found out what was going on over the air. In matter of fact they gave a 011 district unit a disregard when one came up. Im sure it was a mistake. You need to relax with the all caps.

5/27/2011 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

Oh geez, I'm so bored tonight. Lets see what can I do, write a parker or two....naw, maybe a few stops.... ahh hell I think I'll go blow some kid away... yeah thats it, I'll just say he pulled a howitzer on me.... WTF

5/27/2011 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that they didn't photoshop the little tykes picture and have him wearing a graduation gown and holding a diploma! LOL!

To young to have graduated already. C'mon what are you thinking?

5/27/2011 09:11:00 PM

EIGHTH grade. Not high school.

5/27/2011 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I want to know where our FOP media person, Pat Camden is?

Why was there no comment fromt he FOP?

Don't we pay him a hefty monthly salary to be our spokesperson?

5/28/2011 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"welcome to cook county, if our taxes don't kill you, our honor students will...."

5/28/2011 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that they didn't photoshop the little tykes picture and have him wearing a graduation gown and holding a diploma! LOL!

To young to have graduated already. C'mon what are you thinking?

5/27/2011 09:11:00 PM

EIGHTH grade. Not high school.

5/27/2011 11:28:00 PM

I think that's what he meant. If he's only 16 he probably didn't evengraduate eighth grade yet.Lol

5/28/2011 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mah baby got kilt!
5/27/2011 09:40:00 PM

Was it pleated, red or green tartan?

5/28/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good shootin' boys!

Sincerely,

Avid Fan-013

5/28/2011 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous RightisRight said...

Anonymous said...
Help the Tribune out. When you receive those endless letters they send begging you to suscribe, send back the postage paid envelope empty. They get charged to process these envelopes. Let's help those race baiting liberals go under sooner.

5/27/2011 08:31:00 AM

Why not bundle a few bricks together and send that to them? Maybe the post office will charge them a few hundred dollars.

5/27/2011 06:09:00 PM


I do that for all junk mail, but first I tear up the contents and put them in the envelope as an "up yours". Not only do the companies have to pay, but it helps keep the post office afloat without taxing us more. I wish everyone would send the stuff back like that. I asked a postal employee about the brick idea awhile back and was told that they wouldn't send it.

5/28/2011 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First let me say, I hate the media. But the Tribune did nothing wrong here. The facts are the police shot and killed a 15 year old during a Robbery call. His mother agreed to talk to the Tribune. The Tribune printed quotes from the mother. No member of the department will stand in front of the media and dispute the mother's claims. The department will not say the 15 year old was arrested "X" amount of times, and list the offenses. Who cares if he's a juvenile, he's dead so you can't ruin his reputation. His arrest history will be a matter of public record if a law suit is filed. If you are writing a story and only one side gives you something to print, you print what you have. Be angry with the department.

5/27/2011 04:25:00 PM

Then slant the story to correctly reflect the truth Ms/Mr. Smart Ass Reporter. Do YOUR job. His criminal history is public record. Tell Mama's side and then make a liar out of her. Some woman falls in a fucking pond in a mall and in fifteen minutes HER past criminal history was all over the news. So it's the CPD's fault for not printing the other side? Who do you think you're shitting? You people blow both ways and you know it.

Fuck you.

---not a cop

5/28/2011 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This thread needs a "like" button.

5/28/2011 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger dumpdaley said...

If a fifteen year old honor student pulls the trigger on a weapon, does the weapon discharge and the round strike the victim? So it's still a deadly weapon, no matter who holds it? Is one who is unarmed less likely to be shot then someone else who points deadly weapons at police officers? Is one who does not commit armed robberies lless likely to face armed police officers than one who does? I meet at least six patrolman a day working two jobs, not one fired a shot....but then I'm not an honor student, "fitting" to turn my life around. What time is Father Pfleger going to hold his "Don't Commit Armed Robberies Nor Point Deadly Weapons at Police Officers" march?
Not a cop, just a city working who is having his pension stolen by the DEMOCRATS

5/28/2011 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I want to know where our FOP media person, Pat Camden is?

Why was there no comment fromt he FOP?

Don't we pay him a hefty monthly salary to be our spokesperson?

5/28/2011 06:56:00 AM
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Sergeants were involved. FOP doesn't represent them.

5/28/2011 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I want to know where our FOP media person, Pat Camden is?

Why was there no comment fromt he FOP?

Don't we pay him a hefty monthly salary to be our spokesperson?

Hey stupid, it was a Sergeant that was involved in the shooting. That's why no comment from Fop.

5/28/2011 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I only read the trib at the local convenience store and never by it!

Fuck em both!

5/28/2011 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous who suggested I take my friend from Holland to Headquarters is a brilliant idea!!! Maybe it will hit home then!!!

To the other poster that asked about crime in Holland, well since they legalized drugs and have drug dens over there for any sort of narcotic the only problem they have there is JIHADIST'S!!! I brought that up and asked him how that was working out for Holland???? He again fell silent. I said there is no difference between the cell's in Holland full of Muslim extremists that have taken over Holland and the gangbanging savages that have taken over our cities...... SILENCE...... MORE SILENCE.....

I doubt he will bring this subject up with me again. But if he does I will direct him over to this site since he lives in a bubble in his computer world. I might offer him up to a friend or two to take for a ride along on the west or southside and have them check if he has skidmarks in his gucci man panties!!

5/28/2011 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Try calling FOP with a contract question. You get no answer, and then voicemail with no return call.

5/27/2011 09:53:00 AM


I think you're talking about the sergeants union?

5/28/2011 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help the Tribune out. When you receive those endless letters they send begging you to suscribe, send back the postage paid envelope empty. They get charged to process these envelopes. Let's help those race baiting liberals go under sooner.

To my long lost brother seperated at birth-I've been doing the same fucking thing with any funds solicitation from Citizens Utility Board, Channel 11/PBS, Animal Rights groups, Democrats, anyone from Minnesota, AARP, etc. Send the postage paid envelope back empty.

Westside Sergeant

5/28/2011 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well, I want to know where our FOP media person, Pat Camden is?

Why was there no comment fromt he FOP?

Don't we pay him a hefty monthly salary to be our spokesperson?

5/28/2011 06:56:00 AM

I suspect they were waiting for PBPA to issue a statement

5/28/2011 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First let me say, I hate the media. But the Tribune did nothing wrong here. The facts are the police shot and killed a 15 year old during a Robbery call. His mother agreed to talk to the Tribune. The Tribune printed quotes from the mother. No member of the department will stand in front of the media and dispute the mother's claims. The department will not say the 15 year old was arrested "X" amount of times, and list the offenses. Who cares if he's a juvenile, he's dead so you can't ruin his reputation. His arrest history will be a matter of public record if a law suit is filed. If you are writing a story and only one side gives you something to print, you print what you have. Be angry with the department.

The point is that the Chicago media does not tell the truth anymore. They slant everything to reflect their view of political correctness. These liberal views are corrupting our city, county and country. The owners and employees of the dying "main stream media" should be forced to live with the people that they are promoting. Then and only then, the truth will be told.

5/28/2011 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Tribune printed quotes from the mother. No member of the department will stand in front of the media and dispute the mother's claims. The department will not say the 15 year old was arrested "X" amount of times, and list the offenses.

**************************

Dear AnonyMOUSE.......

WE can't stand infront of the media..... There is not one Officer other then is allowed...... Have you not noticed there on a simple minded show like COPS, that shows you "what not to do" that CPD is not featured???? It is in our GO's that we do not speak out, to media, on camera etc............

Smart move I believe. USUALLY the truth comes out in the end. And Dave Snethen aka Dirty Harry said, if the "child" had a gun he is no longer a child he is an active offender that pointed a gun at an Officer, he is dust in the wind. Tooooooooo many lost on CPD. He no longer was a 15 year old he was an Offender.........

Let the news say what they want until someone leaks his fucking record to a good reporter that shows he is an animal by the age of 15.......... He was on his way to being an Officer Strouse, ET Flisk MURDERER!!!! Fill in the blanks, there are so many MURDERED since I got on!

5/28/2011 09:35:00 PM  

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