People Choice Exempts
This was pointed out in a comment - we can't believe we skipped over it in the McEgotastic victory tour the other day:
- [McCarthy] said he will have to replace at least seven district commanders over the next few months because of retirements and promotions. For the first time in Chicago, he will ask district commanders and other top supervisors to vote on the lieutenants and captains they believe would make good district commanders. The finalists will go through an extensive vetting process, McCarthy said.
"Vetting process." That's a good one.
But seriously? Asking for a vote? The problem isn't having a vote, it's who's doing the voting. Ninety percent and more of the exempt structure has at least one "merit" promotion in their career - many have two and more. These people have no idea what being a police officer entails, yet McCarthy is going to take them at their word and count their vote for the next batch of gold stars?
He'd be better off asking Police Officers, Detectives and watch supervisors if the nominees are capable of running a district and leading the men and women of the Department. But letting hacks pick hacks? Not good at all.
But seriously? Asking for a vote? The problem isn't having a vote, it's who's doing the voting. Ninety percent and more of the exempt structure has at least one "merit" promotion in their career - many have two and more. These people have no idea what being a police officer entails, yet McCarthy is going to take them at their word and count their vote for the next batch of gold stars?
He'd be better off asking Police Officers, Detectives and watch supervisors if the nominees are capable of running a district and leading the men and women of the Department. But letting hacks pick hacks? Not good at all.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
65 Comments:
The perpetualization of cronyism. Plain and simple. "Merit" = CLOUT.
Hopefully the crazy "box" Commander from 009 is leaving. He is a good guy, but he is POLICE 24/7.
Will the commanders of 020, Gang Enforcement, and Special Events have a vote? They must be very familiar with this "vetting" process, as none of them have ever passed a Department promotional exam. The commander of Special Events didn't even show up for Part II of the lieutenant's exam, because she didn't have to. It's TRUE.
O.T.:
Rahm will extend CPS school year next year by 2 weeks. He also will extend the school day by 90 minutes.
Whether this is a good thing or not will be determined later. The ominous message here is the fact that this prick isn't planning on compensating the teachers for the extended workday and year. According to the teachers union this amounts to a 28% pay cut. This is how Rahm operates. There's no give and take with him. Rahm simply takes. Don't you think there's a message in there for us?
FOP I hope you are preparing for the upcoming battle. Rahm is one no good, treacherous, lying snake.
Who the f&ck vetted DTEB or Carothers? Why not 'vet' the existing exempts??? WTF?
This guy is a big F*cking jagoff. The more he talks, the more I hate him. Seriously, I already hate him as much as I hated jfled, and it hasn't even been 6 months.
F*cking political hacks who pretend to be 'reformers.' Outright, outspoken liars are worse than the liars who at least keep their mouths shut.
WTF?
Are we going to have contestant numbers and ways to text our votes?
You've got to be f*cking kidding me.
I wonder if Gen.Patton asked for a vote when he made promotions?
OT...Any word on what went on (if anything) at the FOP meet n greet session with the Supt. at FOP Hall yesterday. I noticed this scheduled meeting at the FOP website under the upcoming events section.
"But letting hacks pick hacks? Not good at all."
As a career long political hack I resent that as do my spawn of political hacks.
B.I.F. (Big ignorant fuck)
Is there going to be a swimsuit portion of the competition?
O.T. Rahm makes a visit to ComStat!
At the invitation of McNutty, the ballerino made an appearance at the ComStat meeting last week. So who was on the hot seat that week? AREA 5. Way to show him all the crime going on, by showing him one of the better areas. Compared to Area 1 and 2, Area 5 made it look like everything in the city was OK. After hearing a review by the Deputy Chief and the Commander of 025, and McJersey calling the Commander of IT (JL) on the lack of technology for keeping track of stats, Emanuel got up and addressed the exempts before he left early. He spoke of his ride-along with a gang team and said he would "hate to leave his kids with them" but that they were very professional and had a hard job to do. He then told the gold stars that "he had their backs" as long as they follow their training. He said he may not always agree with some of what is done but he will always have our backs. He also threw in the exception that if we used our nightsticks to take care of business, there was nothing he could do. He also said he learned one thing at ComStat, that most serious crimes happen between midnight and 3 a.m. and that they would have to switch resources to handle that. After he left, it was business as usual.
The talk was of relocating "cops" to times where they would be more efficient in addressing the midnight to 3 a.m. pattern. Not one boss addressed the fact that you just can't change our hours without dealing with our contract. Expect people moved from days to handle the late night problems since McJersey feels that the 2nd watch is overstaffed.
(The flogging will continue until moral improves)
Once again, make more Chiefs by nominating from a pool of already clouted merit hack HennyPennyed knuckleheads.
How about promoting some patrolmen to detective and sergeant?
Ladner got caught not submitting nominations.
vetted? like asking the aldermen or the storefront revs who they like? or like asking LAPA, NOBLE, or NAPA (oh, wait, they sell car parts) who they want? or like asking the members of the exclusive club who they want as new members? it's all legit....
Hopefully the crazy "box" Commander from 009 is leaving. He is a good guy, but he is POLICE 24/7.
8/24/2011 01:05:00 AM
LOLOL Uncle Dave
We are gonna be pining for the days of Ritchie after continued dealings with Tiny Dancer. The teachers are just the tip of iceberg.
Lookmat how he treats the Wards that didn't go for him in the election.
How does his brother's company get away without paying the amusement tax for Lallapalooza?
I hope the Teachers take a job action over this.
its obvious that the supt has no real power...the capts and Lt"s can vote all they want...st. sabina will call in who will get promoted...also , remember guys/gals...all bosses that get promoted start getting full of themselves...remember how cool tobias USED to be...only a few remained true....graber..kennedy, come to mind...most are full of themselves.
Reportedly the process has already begun. A number of the chosen have been contacted to set up interview times.
Hopefully Commander K.Ryan formerly or 001 and TRU now the interim Commander of 004 is in line for a big promotion. Everywhere he has gone crime has been reduced, morale was instilled, and he always had his officers backs. The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain but K.R. helped TRU become one of the Elite Units under his Command. When it got disbanded he personally had the backs of his officers and made sure they were reassigned to good spots.
Ripping on the DC of 009 because he "is the police 24/7"??
What did you sign up for?
That DC is the first one in a long time that can and will have a open discussion with ANYONE, he speaks plainly about the current state of affairs and AGREES with the complaints of the watch officers. But he is forced to go along like everyone else is. IT IS HIS JOB
I do agree that he generates his own event numbers while on the street but leaves it to the responding officers to handle it the way they will. Been there,done that.
And by the way, as long as you are straight with him he has your back.
And he's not my juice, I'm just a beat cop who notices and appreciates a professional boss who knows what side he's on, after working for too many political hacks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT...Any word on what went on (if anything) at the FOP meet n greet session with the Supt. at FOP Hall yesterday. I noticed this scheduled meeting at the FOP website under the upcoming events section.
8/24/2011 06:02:00 AM
Thought the supt. was going to the districts and units? Come to see me demanded the king!! LOL!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T.:
Rahm will extend CPS school year next year by 2 weeks. He also will extend the school day by 90 minutes.
Whether this is a good thing or not will be determined later. The ominous message here is the fact that this prick isn't planning on compensating the teachers for the extended workday and year. According to the teachers union this amounts to a 28% pay cut. This is how Rahm operates. There's no give and take with him. Rahm simply takes. Don't you think there's a message in there for us?
FOP I hope you are preparing for the upcoming battle. Rahm is one no good, treacherous, lying snake.
8/24/2011 03:26:00 AM
Heard CFD will be soon working 10 hour days, more work hours same pay! Next is cpd,Mike Shields we negotiate the contract a year ahead of time so you started June 2011,contract expires June 2012 any input? Why are you so "quiet" Michael??
O.T.:
Rahm will extend CPS school year next year by 2 weeks. He also will extend the school day by 90 minutes.
Whether this is a good thing or not will be determined later. The ominous message here is the fact that this prick isn't planning on compensating the teachers for the extended workday and year. According to the teachers union this amounts to a 28% pay cut.
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fuck the teachers. this is going to put their work day and year on par with teachers in the rest of the area and the rest of the country. they're already paid pretty close to the rest (not as much as the north shore, but *they*'re not as good as the north shore teachers). Don't give me this 28% pay cut bullshit. Daley caved to them a zillion times to buy their votes.
yeah the meet and greet was a bad turn out MAYBE 25 total was sad to see not many there and the majority was from unit 376 bitching about being in limbo. now i understand their concerns BUT dont ambush the man at a "MEET AND GREET" anyway i thought he was refreshing and guess we will see changes after the summer! GOOD LUCK BUT AS I SEE IT WITHOUT MORE HIRES AND MANPOWER all the changes in the world arnt going to help!
Is this going to be a trend, carried over to Sgts. and Lts. promotions? Or are they going to bring in outsiders like they did for the Lt.s promotions back in the 1980's. Back then the Dept. in an effort to appease the Feds had selection boards where a candidate would be asked questions by the board which had supervisors from outside police departments. However, Chicago being Chicago the annointed ones knew a key phrase that was an answer, but in none of the General Orders you were told to study. The entire incident was known as "exam scam", and most of those lts.promoted from that travisty retired exempt. This is a modern version of that scam.
exempts clouted respect you want respect remove dteb,penny,carouthers,and the rest that laugh in your face Mcballess!
Rahm will extend CPS school year next year by 2 weeks. He also will extend the school day by 90 minutes.
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To save money a fair number of mostly rural school districts have gone to 4 day weeks. Does not seemed to have negatively affected the eductaion of the students one bit.
Would be tough to do in many urban school districts as schools have become more about a place for parents to dump their kids for free day care than about education.
Anonymous said...
I wonder if Gen.Patton asked for a vote when he made promotions?
8/24/2011 05:26:00 AM
If Patton was on CPD, he would have spent his entire career pushing a beat car.
will my commander please put a stop to these idiotic and useless box missions. OMG, we are all going crazy. can we get back to doing police work already? does the supt stroke himself at night and get off thinking of all the anovs and contact cards and event numbers that came from the district box locations.
This almost sounds like a tv game show. Dancing with the Exempts anyone?
I now believe Rahm wants the teachers to take a hike next month. By extending the school day 90 minutes and a 2 week extention of the school year without any compensation is just begging for a strike. This is after he throws out a much deserved 4% raise for our teachers. I think Rahm wants the strike to show he canattempt to break the back of the Teachers Union with Illinois state law. How convenient the state changed all the rules pertaining to teacher strikes before this mutt got elected. Once Rahm takes down the teachers all the other city unions will cower in their respective corners taking whatever scraps the Dictator throws down. Rahm wants to establish that he is the BOSS OF CHICAGO!
Will there be a bikini competion as part of it? It will be as relevant as any of their other criteria.
Interesting historical footnote:
"... many pirate crews operated as limited democracies...Both the captain and the quartermaster were elected by the crew; they, in turn, appointed the other ship's officers..."
I know the Commander from 009 he'll FUCK ANYONE OVER TO GET STATS can't wait till he's GONE
When are they holding the pagents swimsuit segment?
If DTEB is not out in the next wave of moves in September, then this guy is full of it. Quick telling the troops about meritocracy when it doesn't even exist.
It will be 4 years this November since the last class of detectives have been promoted. I understand the city's budget problems, but I was also promised when I was hired a opportunity for advancement within the department. The only people getting promoted are the clouted gold stars. Nothing for the blue shirts. I would ask that the superintendent takes a look at pax 501 volume 9, 16 Jan 09 and fulfill those promotions that were projected by Weiss and promised to him by the city before any lists get torn down. I know you will make several people happy that saw this pax and have been waiting ever since.
8/22/2011 02:38:00 PM
I vote for Commander 'Krusty the Clown" Hey Hey
Heard CFD will be soon working 10 hour days, more work hours same pay! Next is cpd,Mike Shields we negotiate the contract a year ahead of time so you started June 2011,contract expires June 2012 any input? Why are you so "quiet" Michael??
8/24/2011 10:38:00 AM
why are you so noisy, hamster?
To the guy protecting the commander from 009 are you stupid he gave you the old if I could change things I would but I can't so just bring in numbers so I can get promoted speech and you think he's great.
"Hopefully Commander K.Ryan formerly or 001 and TRU now the interim Commander of 004 is in line for a big promotion. Everywhere he has gone crime has been reduced, morale was instilled, and he always had his officers backs. The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain but K.R. helped TRU become one of the Elite Units under his Command. When it got disbanded he personally had the backs of his officers and made sure they were reassigned to good spots."
Thanks for sharing, Kev...but until further notice, your ass is STILL stuck in the 004th District!
Maybe they could take that bastard Sgt of ours and promote him so he can demoralize a whole district rather than just a single watch.
No more tests
all future promtotions will require an exempt command staff member or ward committee man to nominate you for advancement
Are they going to do a retroactive vetting process. If so, Ladner and her guilty of racism ass should be gone. EB should be gone several times over. And Mike Shields will be a Lt. for ever. And Kevin Ryan? Where did he reduce crime ? In 001? When he was the director of security for the Park District? And guys, hate to say it shootings and homicides are down without TRU and MSF. Maybe putting people back in the district wasn't such a bad idea after all. And it is easy to build moral when people are getting 2 hour lunches every night.
O.T.:
Rahm will extend CPS school year next year by 2 weeks. He also will extend the school day by 90 minutes.
Whether this is a good thing or not will be determined later. The ominous message here is the fact that this prick isn't planning on compensating the teachers for the extended workday and year. According to the teachers union this amounts to a 28% pay cut.
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fuck the teachers. this is going to put their work day and year on par with teachers in the rest of the area and the rest of the country. they're already paid pretty close to the rest (not as much as the north shore, but *they*'re not as good as the north shore teachers). Don't give me this 28% pay cut bullshit. Daley caved to them a zillion times to buy their votes.
8/24/2011 10:40:00 AM
Agreed. Teachers are paid pretty well and only work a 5.75 hr school day. Most of our kids come to us unprepared for school and actually need MORE instructional time than suburban kids in order to get caught up. With the short day we have now, it's no wonder why so many kids are so far behind.
Some teachers may not be happy about it, but there's no way the union will get the 75% vote needed to strike.
...However, Chicago being Chicago the annointed ones knew a key phrase that was an answer, but in none of the General Orders you were told to study. The entire incident was known as "exam scam", and most of those lts.promoted from that travisty retired exempt. This is a modern version of that scam.
8/24/2011 10:47:00 AM
OOHH OOHH pick me!
It's "Notify the Watch Commander"
Now, where's my gold star??
I nominate DTEB to destroy the patrol division.
"It will be 4 years this November since the last class of detectives have been promoted."
I feel your pain. I am under 45 out on the sergeant's list and I am sure I will not get made.
I have nothing against merit picks, we all have to do what we have to for our families.
But I am willing to participate in a class-action lawsuit because many of us were passed over for promotion by those who were promoted meritoriously.
When will we ever learn that the only qualifications that count in Chicago, are clout, cronyism, gentilia, pigmentation, and sexual orientation
If you don't understand , you're wasting your time getting a REAL masters degree or being a super cop.
Ive got a question for you guys Fortunately for me, Ive been retired for awhile now
I was just wondering whether the job is still legit like it was when I was employed as a member of the CPD
Anonymous said...
Hopefully Commander K.Ryan formerly or 001 and TRU now the interim Commander of 004 is in line for a big promotion. Everywhere he has gone crime has been reduced, morale was instilled, and he always had his officers backs. The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain but K.R. helped TRU become one of the Elite Units under his Command. When it got disbanded he personally had the backs of his officers and made sure they were reassigned to good spots.
8/24/2011 10:05:00 AM
I'm K. Ryan and I Approved this ad.
So today a major CTA station was closed for a necessary police event. The issue was the hooping a hollering by commander ER trying to show off to his betters. The guy argues with everyone there trying to do a job and expects his "guys" to trust him. What a joke. Another over-his-head promoted hack.
TO: The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain
E.V. was a victim of J-fed, don't necessarily count that as an issue and is still a good boss in spite of the dump. E.O'D removed himself from the exempt rank back to Captain to get the health care as an exempt member didn't get it..
Det. Charlie Chan say..."Someting smell fishy to me"!
DEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This guy doesn't like to be in charge, does he? Perhaps I'm saying that because I was wondering who was running the CPD since he hasn't been visible at all.
That was until the recent article about him. But then again, looks like he's been busy decorating his desk...
Anonymous 29 and a day said...
Ive got a question for you guys Fortunately for me, Ive been retired for awhile now
I was just wondering whether the job is still legit like it was when I was employed as a member of the CPD
8/24/2011 09:10:00 PM
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It's even MORE legit! LOL
why do they have to put the "safe boxes" for old medication in a police station. we have enough to deal with. put them in them in the alderman offices there are 50 locations opposed to 25.
Should b noted that the FMCG of 9 got you 8th Dist guys favorite sgt his merit promotion. Lb lol
TO: The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain
E.V. was a victim of J-fed, don't necessarily count that as an issue and is still a good boss in spite of the dump. E.O'D removed himself from the exempt rank back to Captain to get the health care as an exempt member didn't get it..
8/24/2011 10:16:00 PM
Don't forget T-Dubs - he was the Commander of TRU who also got detmoted by Jody with E.V. Thus K.Ryan has been exempt for 3 Supt's and should be even higher ranked soon!
TO: The previous 2 Commanders of TRU were knocked down to Captain
E.V. was a victim of J-fed, don't necessarily count that as an issue and is still a good boss in spite of the dump. E.O'D removed himself from the exempt rank back to Captain to get the health care as an exempt member didn't get it..
he's talking about Captain T.W. in 008, former Cmdr. of TRU
Trust me it will all be for the worse.
Kevin Ryan no longer has the clout without his buddy, Tim Mitchell who was "let go" as head of the Park District due to city credit card problems. The reason he has gotten anywhere on this job is Tim Mitchell.
29 and a day said...
Ive got a question for you guys Fortunately for me, Ive been retired for awhile now
I was just wondering whether the job is still legit like it was when I was employed as a member of the CPD
8/24/2011 09:10:00 PM
yes, just like that, and then some.
Commander Ryan will have 004 running tip top shape, u can believe that.
004 was running very well before Ryan's arrival,
thank you very much!
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