Fly On The Wall?
Truth? Or wishful thinking?
- McCarthy is the first high level city official to feel the wrath of Rahm.
Just before McCarthy went to a dinner for the National Chiefs of Police he got a major in person ass reaming from Tiny Dancer. He had already irked Rahm with his constant careless talk in front of the media and his never ending love of being in front of the camera.
Rahm was informed by a partner at a big downtown firm currently contracted for a lawsuit involving numerous 8th District police that the Superintendent is now a defense witness in any and all lawsuits involving this officer. The Superintendent is an expert in Police Management and he has now publicly stated that the city was negligent. Rahm was told that these comments virtually guarantee an eight figure settlement on the Farmer lawsuit.
The anger from Rahm's advisors is so real that rumors around City Hall are that McCarthy could be fired before 2012. The thinking is Rahm will wait for one thing to go wrong, one scandal, one bad car chase, one anything, and he will drop the hammer on McCarthy.
First, you can guarantee that McCarthy will do absolutely no more press conferences. City Hall is sending a new spokesman to handle police affairs who will be installed by the end of this week. The McCarthy media tour is over.
Second, you can expect McCarthy to tone down his Compstat beatdowns. His only friend in Chicago just called him out on the carpet and basically told him he fucked up and if he fucks up again he's gone. Aldermen had already begun beating the drums that McCarthy is an asshole who doesn't treat them or their cronies with the respect they deserve.
The general consensus is that McCarthy better start looking for a new police department to screw up.
Let's see who makes the next public appearance on behalf of the Department, maybe even tonight at the 013 "rally." McMedia might (and should) be in big trouble. We also heard the First Deputy didn't unpack all his boxes from the last move yet.
Come to think of it, public FOP "no confidence" vote could very well be the trigger Rahm is looking for. Never let a crisis go to waste and all that.
Come to think of it, public FOP "no confidence" vote could very well be the trigger Rahm is looking for. Never let a crisis go to waste and all that.
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
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Axe this guy Jersey Shore should go packin
I have been sued 3 times. One suit went to trial and fortunately I was found not guilty by a jury. Any copper who has been sued knows the damage McCarthy did by making those statements. Whats good for the POs now is that the case wont go to trial because the city wont put McCarthy on the stand testifying for the defense. This guy is really an amatuer.
If the FOP doesn't hold a no-confidence vote, they're idiots. For the love of God, he said an officer might be facing criminal charges because of doing his job. McIdiot's just hung this guy and the city out to dry. McStupe was telling police,"rah rah! Go get 'em. Get back to real policing!" Then he shoots the guy in the back. Shit, gangbangers get in shootings every day--how do we avoid them?
Everyone on this blog should DEMAND the FOP show its distrust and disgust for this jackass. A NO CONFIDENCE VOTE! NOW!
Yah,yah,yah..... I call bullshit on this one BIG time.
His only friend in Chicago just called him out on the carpet and basically told him he fucked up and if he fucks up again he's gone
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Who is his friend, the inbreed weasel?
Oh.... And there are big changes coming this friday again... Lmfao!!
Okay, your next leader will be a reverend vetted Chicago lifer who does anything that Rahm asks. Have fun with Superintendent Brown or Cuello. If you think it can't happen, look at San Fran's finest. As Michael Savage said, she can't even keep her hat on her head.
Why not post a separate article on Rahm's chief of staff, Theresa Mintle, cousin of Richie Daley and former chief of staff at CTA, no embroiled in a serious ethics violation concerning her sweatheart pension deal. Crains broke the story, but buried the "cousin" aspect to second page of article. Mintle-Daley is yet another Daley relative sucking at the teet of Chicago corrupt politics. "Chief of staff" means full responsibility for the day-to-day management of that organization, whether CTA or Mayor's Office, and this cousin was in control of a great deal of patronage for a LONG TIME without undue scrutiny.
McCarthy's Rahm problems may be a smoke screen for Mintle's pension conflict-of-interest problem. Note that SHE'll have a comfortable retirement on your dime. She probably just received a 9% raise too, as I recall from last week's news.
Disgusted Tax-payer
It is funny, to search an entire department and then nationwide, this is the best we can come up with for a superintendent?
And as someone who has seen the Entourage series, let me tell you, the Emanuel boys like to yell and curse.
I saw this one coming right after the St. Sabinas fiasco was exposed here on SCC. Surprised it took this long for the story to materialize. Rahmmy don't like nobody stealin his spotlight!
You mean having an sexual relationship with a member of your personal staff doesn't count? A public domestic, while intoxicated (in a suburb to boot) doesn't count? Another domestic, at Wrigley Field doesn't count?
This ASSHOLE's big mouth just fucked this entire city after he's fucked over our department. At least JFled knew when to keep his mouth shut and also chose his words carefully. Even LeRoy Martin knew when to shut up.
A no confidence vote is needed
I vote no confidence for SCC. I only have confidence in Cooter.
Things are looking up for Michelle Obama's cousin.
Time to bring in the next clown!
Days of the Supe "having your back" are over!
That is not the type of boss the dept is looking for.
Take a look around, how many boss's do you think really have your back?
this is the most logical and believable posting in quite some time. every word is true and my hat is off to the fine author. this idiot has not been on tv for a while now and now we know why. the comments in the trib are distrubing to say the least. i hate to say it but i miss jody
SCC wrote: Come to think of it, public FOP "no confidence" vote could very well be the trigger Rahm is looking for. Never let a crisis go to waste and all that.
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I think that's the ONE thing that would backfire right now. The mayor does NOT want to be seen as bowing to the wishes of the police, or showing us any respect beyond empty rhetoric.
McAspirations will not be able to shun the cameras for very long; it's in his dna. The deathwatch should be entertaining.
CPD need a 'Baghdad Bob'type spokesman.
Any candidates?
Perez?
.....?
I say we adopt a new method of policing--we set up perimeters around the shitheads to keep them in their 'box', and let them shoot each other until they're all gone! Police so they can't get out of their neighborhoods. Who cares what they do? Let them do what they want, as long as they do it in their own 'hood.
All that will be left is women and children--then we can go back in, and McStupe won't have to worry about us getting in shootings.
Anybody who does a SW or makes an arrest without a signed complaint or a warrant is soft as puppy shit.
Me, I'm going to teach myself origami while I ride around with my blinders on--except to back up other PO's.
Good luck to the officer thrown under the bus. Try to keep your head up.
McStupe thought he was tougher than any Chicago copper--now he's spending a forune on Depends undergarments.
I can't wait for G8. Hopefully the whole of CPD will realize what Rahm is doing to our pensions by then and we will all stand around handing out daisies! If I were a white shirt, I'd be shitting a brick knowing what's coming.
Only arrest on orders from a white shirt and document everything. That while you did not feel there was just cause for arrest, you could not disobey a direct order.
I'm going for a 5B furlough. Fuck 'em.
g-mac won't defend indefensible behavior--- does that include shooting out street lights while stoned or interfering with the issue of a parking ticket to your daughter--- people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...
If you remember, DALEY had done the same thing in the past.
It is totally insane to admit guilt on the part of the city to the media in regards to ANY wrong doing by city employees.
If these goofs were not in the public sector they would be fired and sued as CEOs of whatever company they headed.
. in matters with CPD and corporation counsel over the years, I was always told. When you leave this office I don,t want you discussing this matter with anyone, not even other defendants.I have followed that rule and have not had any problems. I find it unconscionable that our supt.would make these comments to the media. He will now be used as a defendant against us. What a dolt.
Really?? Semms to me that these rumors of his impending demise are all just wishful thinking from people who never liked an outsider as head of the department. What these folks really like is an ass kisser, bootlicker who follows every order to the letter that comes from city hall and who sells all good , unconnected police officer right down the drain when it comes to promotions and assignments. By the way, that is exactly what we have had as superintendent for the past 30 years.Keep it up, you might get what you wish for.
Good, that is exactly what that dumb ass deserves along with a swift kick in the ass on the way out of Chicago. And that raccoon needs a punch in the balls with reality come G8. Cant wait.......
"...you can guarantee that McCarthy will do absolutely no more press conferences."
Good. He's an imbecile.
"Aldermen had already begun beating the drums that McCarthy is an asshole who doesn't treat them or their cronies with the respect they deserve."
Good. He's a genius.
I supppose this is a bad time to bring this up then...
...but what did the Mayor, the President's former Chief of Staff say when you asked him about the pardon for Bill Cozzi?
Do you recall the retirement party for Father Nangle? A small but important thing for the trashed department morale.
Mayor Twinkle Toes recalling McCarthy! Mayor Twinkle Toes should be recalled.
McJersey is another McGenius who needs to be working the drive thru @ McDonalds.
Sorry off topic...was thinking about joining the credit union again.....anyone have any input on the patrolman credit union? Thx
Bring back De Lopez and stop this charade. Joe is a gentleman and a highly polished speakere. They don't come any better!
Wonder if raccoon eyes vents in front of his suit friends at his brunch spot, Toast, on Webster Pl.
I have 23 yrs on the job, and would like to say something. In that time I have observed both good and bad trends, equipment ,bosses and morale. Since the Weis debacle all of the aforementioned have completely fallen off the table. Our veh's are falling completely apart, most Dist Wagons have over 200-250,000 miles on them, a catastrophic failure is inevitable. Bosses in this day/age are terrible,the only Supervision seems to be enforced against those who can't claim racial, sexual or medical bias. Morale is the single biggest problem and is going to cost lives next May. With Criminally Neglected Manpower issues, and a Dept of about only 3-4,000 actual POLICE, the others will run scared, have their weapons used against them or snap and cause bigger problems. Instead of attempting to fix this by a mass hiring the Dept has maintained the " Status Quo" and appeased the polticians. The sound you will hear in May is the echoes of " I Told You So" as the city burns.
WOW!
I called my Alderman. I want him to do something about this "Supe" before he gets some one hurt. His actions are not welcome. We don't need to second guess ourselves wondering if our "boss" will destroy us in the media. We need to apply pressure to our reps.
OT
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New Nickname: McMouthy
Civilian post.
Would someone please explain to THE PATROLMAN with the Canine, that HIS FATHER was The DEPT SUPT, not him. I have been a Supv for a long time and have never encountered a more useless, lazy, arrogant individual in my life. The " You Want Me To Do What" look is getting old and if you don't like having a puppy go back to patrol. Sometimes OUR JOB gets in the way of your boating,working out, shopping for parts for your antique cars and coming in late. GROW UP!
Rahm is also pissed about McTool berating underlings who speak to the Mayor without telling him exactly what was discussed.
time for that "no confidence" vote.....although, who would work for that arrogant a$$ Rahm anyway? and the aldermen can go to hell too..
What the hell is so hard about saying, "this is currently under litigation" therefore, I'm unable to comment.". Or how about saying it's stil being investigated, and leave it alone. Ass clown..........
This story would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. Racoon Eyes only gets worked up if HE and his cronies look bad. Only if the city will be on the hook for millions in the Farmer incident. He didn't give a rats ass how this moron from NY was treating us. It is all about who gets shit on them. If the peons are getting stepped on it is ok. Fuck all of these bastards.
Good Riddance McStreetlights
I thought the same thing when I read his quotes in the newspaper. Get the checkbook out citizen taxpayers, , he just gave them a settlement on a silver platter with a big red bow on it. That is what happens when the ego bypasses the brain and goes directly to the mouth.
This would never of happened if we had a Supt promoted from within, we don't sell each other out like outsiders
Well I'm I the only one that knew he was always the last choice to be are boss.
There is no doubt that this guy doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut and that's probably because he loves the spot light. That being said, I still don't believe that Rahm is that angry with him. Rahm knew what he was getting with him. He knew Mcjersey's history. Hell, Mcjersey's opening day race speach at the fake father Phlegar's fake church should have sent up huge red flaggs. I just hope someday we can have a real Supt. again.
HOW ABOUT A TALL GLASS OF SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
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He's a "throw away".
Rahm just brought him here to be the white guy to take the heat for cutting police service, period.
The 013 rally organizers got word that Wysinger will be handling their community meeting, not McSupt...Looks like your birdie is singing the correct tune.
Starring Count Rahm, McMouth McCarthy, Lipstick Tina, DTEB & Aunt B
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Send the Commanding Officer of News Affairs, Lt. M. Biggane. The superintendent will approve. I guarantee that. Ha, ha, ha. Or as the kids say, LOL.
I am quite sure we can mention her name since her name and rank already appears on the press as the voice of the Department.
Please SCC make this a separate post. Thanks
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Don't worry you carpet bagger you wont get fired you will only get "decentralized" by tiny dancer for 90 days. Paybacks are a bitch!!
The democRATS who bankrupted the state/city/county now want us to pay to go to court at 26/Calif. $4.75 to park. Of course the democRAT judges and bosses will be exempt.
I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet!
Normally I'd say this is good news but I'm not sure. Even if Rahm tosses his ass out he'd only replace him with another like minded goof. It's Rahm's way or the highway.
Rahm despises us so he won't replace McNutty with a free thinker who might back the troops. He'll simply select a different asshole to carry out his agenda.
Yes indeed, Garry McCarthy's insanely big mouth just about guarantees that the City will pay out much more than 10-million-dollars....probably closer to 50-million! And all because he couldn't keep his cool, act professionally, and tell the media exactly what SCC recommended: "under investigation...no comment."
On top of that, the Farmer shooting, which was already ruled "justified" by the Department (which helps to limit the liability of all concerned), is referred to the FBI for a Cozzi-style sandbag. So now the officer is facing the possibility of a long prison sentence, on top of the tens of millions extra $$$ that McCarthy's big mouth just cost us, the taxpayers!
McCarthy's public comments admitting city negligence regarding a shooting still under investigation are 100% unprofessional, imprudent, and completely INDEFENSIBLE. There is no logical way he can justify his senseless and reckless comments to the media, comments that also caused great harm, and public discredit, to the Police Department itself... a Rule Violation that could, and should, result in McCarthy's termination.
McCarthy should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.
It would seem that if there is even 1 less MURDER in Chicago than the year before, the powers that be will shout from the mountain tops," We lowered the homicide total from last year!" The 1st 375 murders are as they say...collateral damage. They don't care about anything except being able to say that they lowered the homicide number. The robberies, burglaries, auto thefts, agg batteries and all other crime can go through the roof, as long as the MURDER (there, I said it) total go down. Most peoples property is insured and is considered acceptable losses by the bosses. Why even have property crime detectives? Why not just tell these victims not to bother reporting it because the city doesn't care. By the dangerous reduction of manpower makes it obvious that this is the attitude of the supe and 9.5!
McTool should have known better than to make that kind of comment on an ongoing investigation.
OT , less than 400 police officers including supervisors will retire in 2011 . I doubt that more than 250 will retire in 2012 . FOP just made the 100 + for free health ins.
this year .
Our pension fund is safe , wait til FOP loses the free health at age 55 . City of Chicago will not contribute any $ toward health insurance for Future Retirees after June 30 , 2013 .
Looks like Officers with less than 20 years and under 50 will be working until they are 60 for paid health insurance until they are 65 or stay until they are 63 years old . Shortshanks wants to know if you miss him and Jfled yet .
Ok so someone could be yanking my chain but here is what I was told.
Mc Supt has realized that going down to 3 areas (North, Central and South) is not going to work. In fact it would actually cost more money if the Police Department would do this. And he does not want it to get out (oops). As it stands now Area Five would close with Area Five Districts being split up among Area Four and Three. With Area Three getting the majority.
Each Area will have Strike Teams, Gun Teams and Narcotic Enforcement Teams.
Pending approval from the Captins all Capts will be XO's (we all know this already). It has yet to be determined it Tact Lt's will stay or go under the XO's. The Tact Lt position depends on how many Lt's are left. To fill in or be the Watch Commander.
OCD will be going down to one Commander and units will be downsized, but not as much as expected or talked (rumored) about. Units 189, 196, 192, 393, 191 will all have Captins in charge followed by Lt's.
The Detective Division will be having mission teams with the various Districts that will be working Day to Day with them. However, the Mission Detectives will be under the Detective Bureaus Command. Mc Supt knows that a patrol supervisor should NOT be in charge of a Detective if he or she was never one.
The always expected command changes have to be approved by the Mayor as Mc Supt has had his leash pulled tighter.
There has been calls to City Hall as far as bosses getting to stay where they are at or moved to a better spot. That seems to be holding up the moves.
I also think the post might be true from what this individual told me about the Mayor and Mc Supt.
He lost me right after viewing that St Sabina diatribe he spewed forth against the 2nd amendment and stirring the race relations pot. This man isn't fit to lead a team operating a Bed, Bath, and Beyond.... let alone a major police department.
OT:
Mt spouse works at 35th St ( near the Chief of detectives) and saw lists from each area listing the 15 detectives from each area. Don't know who made them the top 15 or what criteria was being used but all 5 areas were represented. Maybe there is something to the Central Homicide concept. Nothing surprises me anymore...
Rahmberg rabbit knows he picked a loser. Now he is stuck with his ass. Something has got to break soon, Rahm is trying to save money and this guy keeps making it impossible. He will launch Mc Idiot.
Weis was a jackass that screwed up countless times and Daley never touched him.
Emmanual wont touch McCarthy it IS just wishful thinking because in the end McCarthy will fuck us over which is just what emmanuel wants.
I thought Ernie was getting a suburban gig ... what happened to that
A bit off topic.
The mayor wants to cut the 911 call center employees by 33% right? Talk of cutting the number of firemen per truck. Closing down 3 police stations. None of that is suppose to affect public safety?
I'll tell you what really won't affect public safety. Cutting the number of aldermen from 50 to 25 or less.
Managers from all these city departments are being asked to makes cuts yet the mayor is either unwilling or unable to run the city with less alderman? Why?
Think about that.
Who you gonna call if the doom and gloom predictions of NATO-G8(ate) become reality? Certainly the alderman will not be first on the list. However maybe everyone should place them on their speed dial lists seeing the power that they carry in putting up the no trespassing areas around their little wards.
The wards are drawn up based on racial boundaries for the most part so how about we have one Spanish alderman, one Black alderman, one Jewish alderman, One Polish, one Chinese alderman. one Italian, one Irish alderman, one German alderman and one miscellaneous alderman and we're done. What is that nine? Okay let's double that at make it two for each ethnic group one republican and one democrat so it's 18.
Why should an alderman's scope of influence be determined by a map in square miles?
Oh yeah I know..some will call that racist and segregation but isn't that what is going on anyway under the cover and silence of it all.
Oh..wait..and how could I forget. The illegal immigrants should have their two aldermen representing them no matter where they came from.
Come on mayor. Show us all how it's done. You're asking all your city departments to make cuts while you protect your own kingdom of city council officials. The aldermen and their clouted ward appointees. Where's their 33% cuts?
Stop blowing taxpayers money because you are in fear of some peaceful people wanting to exercise their rights to free speech too. Holding down dozens of cops to "watch them"... Go watch the apple pickers on the West and South sides were the violence is occurring and on the CTA lines. You want to watch protestors and you think cameras are the answer to everything turn the beat cops loose from those foot post and put a camera up it all if it makes you feel any better. Now you can watch them first hand.
Better yet mayor, swallow that pride of yours and the massive ego and accommodate the 99% we can not afford what you are doing.
McNutty should have reviewed
management 101
"Praise in public,.. Critique in private" that's what an office is for
as for public statements to the press
never ever concede to any wrong doing. till the actual "facts" are in
that's what a legal dept is for
like one guy said
he misses j-fled already:)
though i live in the burbs
i cannot understand why with all the experienced officers in chicago
why in heaven's name do they pick a guy from newjersey?
i feel it's an insult to the intellingence and experience of aforementioned officers
this guy knows about as much of chicago as we do about newyork or newjersey
Why not post a separate article on Rahm's chief of staff, Theresa Mintle, cousin of Richie Daley and former chief of staff at CTA, no embroiled in a serious ethics violation concerning her sweatheart pension deal.
We did - two days ago.
Who remembers what this department was before an outsider came in to run it. To all you that bashed Phil and couldn't wait for him to be shit canned, how ya feel now? The only person that should be running this department is someone who started here. Back to back failures. When will the mayor and the police board figure it out. While there are not an abundance of qualified bosses that could run this place, there is still a few competant bosses who could do it. Hell, even EB knows not to say shit like to the media. Ya I know that the mayor makes the decisions but a cpd bred sup would make better day to day minor decisions. It's unfortunate that Weis shitcanned all the qualified bosses. i.e dugan
Rahm said no ethics violation. She is not going to take the CTA pension. Only problem with that is in reality she at this time wont take it, but has 8 years to make her decision.
Keep opening your BIG mouth, putz!
Honest, when I first heard about McCarthys statements, I said B/S, nobody, and I mean nobody could be that f'kn stupid.
Suprise , suprise !
OT:
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Anonymous said...
I have been sued 3 times. One suit went to trial and fortunately I was found not guilty by a jury. Any copper who has been sued knows the damage McCarthy did by making those statements. Whats good for the POs now is that the case wont go to trial because the city wont put McCarthy on the stand testifying for the defense. This guy is really an amatuer.
10/25/2011 07:33:00 AM
Never mind the civil suit the copper has much bigger worries now. Gmac just gave the US Attorneys a great expert witness to use in front of a jury in the civil rights violation the FBI appears to be looking into. Nice work big mouth. Learn to shut up.
This is exactly what happens when an outsider is brought in.
OT:
This is what a boss is supposed to do. Stick up for the troops. We haven't had anything but mayor puppets for decades now.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-commissioner-rips-idea-of-fewer-firefighters-per-truck-20111025,0,2027015.story
Please you make $45. = per hour to attend court . Pay the $4.75 .
Cheap coppers . Next contract Rahm will be taking away uniform allowance , duty availability and a few holidays . Look for a bump in pension contributions.
Is anyone going to discuss the fact that we are aligning with SEIU and other anti-police orgs for this bus trip? Who do you think is funding OWS? It is the unions and left wing orgs like Tides Foundations (Soros). We really need to distance ourselves from some of those orgs on the bus trip poster for we will be locking them up next week. Strange Strange bedfellows.
can you say term limits for politicians in chicago. the mayor has way to much power for one little man with a missing digit. we need to limit his power just like he did to us.
Less than 72hours after arriving in Chicago, McGoofy went straight to Sabinas to pimp & prostate himself before before Fr. Mikey. That spoke volumes & set the tones. He aint going anywhere, he took the asschewing. Move along nothing to see here.
Bring back De Lopez and stop this charade. Joe is a gentleman and a highly polished speaker,
While I do agree De Lopez is a gentleman, he would be another LAPA lapdog. Don't you guys get it? That is what the Superintendent is...Now get over it, McCarthy is going nowhere.
Who remembers what this department was before an outsider came in to run it. To all you that bashed Phil and couldn't wait for him to be shit canned, how ya feel now? The only person that should be running this department is someone who started here. Back to back failures. When will the mayor and the police board figure it out. While there are not an abundance of qualified bosses that could run this place, there is still a few competant bosses who could do it. Hell, even EB knows not to say shit like to the media. Ya I know that the mayor makes the decisions but a cpd bred sup would make better day to day minor decisions. It's unfortunate that Weis shitcanned all the qualified bosses. i.e dugan
You name me one boss on this department that is actually qualified to be a commander let alone the supe. And fat phil is the one responsible for all the bosses we are dealing with today. They were all promoted under him. Brown, Cuello, Skahill, Stanley. Just to name a few. So yes along with the last two morons running things I will blame fat Phil just as much. Dugan was better than anything we have now but even he was a little wacky with some of his policies.
The always expected command changes have to be approved by the Mayor as Mc Supt has had his leash pulled tighter.
The Mayors office ALWAYS approves command moves. Nothing new here, move along, learn how the city that works, works.
New Nickname: McMouthy
Civilian post.
10/25/2011 11:41:00 AM
I like this!
FYI, before everyone starts blindly sticking up for people on this job, they should do research. That's all I'm saying.
Maybe the people of chicago should be able to vote for the sup like the county gets to vote for sheriff. Can you imagine the top cop being held accountable and made to answer to the people. Hell throw in the inspector general as well. It would take a lot of influence of city hall off those 2 positions to let them actually do their respective jobs better.
Be careful what you desire boys n girls crossed eyes is the next in line...
Now's our chance!
Let's try for a triple play!
9.5 Mcgoofy and Quinn.
The only people that fuck up CPD are the politicians.....
The Illinois State Senate over rode Gov. Quinn's veto of the Com Edison bill to jack up our rates for the next ten years. This tells me all of the pension bills will also pass as well as the school speeding camera bill. These lousy bastards Madigan and Cullerton have fucked us again. They work for themselves and all these special interest trying to take every dime we have left. We are truly fucked living and working in this state.
Would someone please explain to THE PATROLMAN with the Canine, that HIS FATHER was The DEPT SUPT, not him. I have been a Supv for a long time and have never encountered a more useless, lazy, arrogant individual in my life. The " You Want Me To Do What" look is getting old and if you don't like having a puppy go back to patrol. Sometimes OUR JOB gets in the way of your boating,working out, shopping for parts for your antique cars and coming in late. GROW UP!
I know who could explain it to him, you. You and other supervisors like you are one of the many dibilitating problems on the job. You are paid well to deal with clowns like this, or are you scared you'll get dumped. Either do you job or you hand in YOUR pup, excuse me, chevrons.
Anonymous said...
Would someone please explain to THE PATROLMAN with the Canine, that HIS FATHER was The DEPT SUPT, not him. I have been a Supv for a long time and have never encountered a more useless, lazy, arrogant individual in my life. The " You Want Me To Do What" look is getting old and if you don't like having a puppy go back to patrol. Sometimes OUR JOB gets in the way of your boating,working out, shopping for parts for your antique cars and coming in late. GROW UP!
10/25/2011 11:48:00 AM
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you're a supervisor, HANDLE IT!!!!
Al Wysinger will be the Superintendent in less than 6 months. The ballet dancer is not happy with a few other things also.
On another topic, Hoff has come out against cutting fire dept. manpower. Completely unlike the capons who run this department.
How the fuck is McCarthy an expert on "use of force"?
Has he taught it in a police academy?
Anyone remember the Rodney King beating?
The prosecution in those cases brought out the actual use of force/baton instructors from the LAPD Academy and even then some of the instructors disagreed among themselves. The general consensus based on the video was that most of the strikes were within their regulations, but a few were not.
Does McCarthy have that level of expertise regarding shootings? Does he have access to another video that shows what the deceased was doing just prior to the last shots being fired?
Has he taken any ongoing courses in use of force investigations? Such courses exist.
Now I know he allegedly knows how to shoot out streetlights. He certainly knows how to accost New Jersey cops who had the temerity to ticket his daughter.
I seem to recall graduating from a police academy in 1985 and in the 26 years since I'd hardly call myself an expert on "use of force". By the way I do have a bit of rank, non merit-cloutorious, and my academic background is superior to McCarthy's.
I know he has a background in stats, compstat, and running a medium sized PD, but that doesn't make him an expert on use of force.
I've been firing weapons since 1981 in the Army and later as a cop and that doesn't make me a range instructor or a sniper.
I've seen a few dead bodies, but that doesn't make me the star of Law and Order: Criminal Intent.
Now McCarthy may be an expert on goatees. He may be an expert on police administration. I doubt he has the experience or skill set to call himself an expert on "use of force".
Sorry off topic...was thinking about joining the credit union again.....anyone have any input on the patrolman credit union? Thx
10/25/2011 10:38:00 AM
Don't do it. Their rates suck. Their service sucks. You can get better rates at any bank around.
I really don't know how the East Coast coppers act back home, but I have been around plenty Boston & New York Coppers for the St. Pat's parade, ARROGANT, this new Supt we have reminds me of a Cheap LOunge Act, this guy just loves the spotlight, and loves to talk. I'm am the greatest , just likje big mouth Cassius Clay. He just has not gotten a good dose of Chicago Politics yet, and as for Rahmmie, he is the first mayor that I know of that just wants to Fuck with the Police and Firefighters, BAD BAD MOVE.
Don't forget that half of what comes out of mcnutty's mouth is written by LT M.B. She should be held just as accountable. Fuckn dumbasses
" ....McCarthy's Rahm problems may be a smoke screen for Mintle's pension conflict-of-interest problem. "
That's true, why it's typical Axlerod Damage Control..
Don't focus on manpower shortage, let's show the Media how we can lock up 200 passive protestors a week.
Second City Cop needs a Twitter account, FaceBook, or maybe an App to get the word to Our Supporters. The public ought to know the real story and our opinion, not the trash delivered in the media. It's unfortunate that FOP doesn't get tv /radio time for press releases.
We are not the Enemy and we deserve to be heard.
As for GMac, he's not the problem - it's the ghost of Daley Past and the Daley (Ranm) Future.
Mc Supt knows that a patrol supervisor should NOT be in charge of a Detective if he or she was never one.
Unfortunately there are supervisors in the Detective Division that were not Detectives as well.
Hey McSupe, want to do something positive? Rectify this immediately!
I won't say the FOP should ignore this, but why aren't you raggin on the PBPA?
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
Wtf. Can they please fix atleast 50 of the 100 craters in the parking lot in area one. ??
Rahmbo's just pissed cuz he's on a losing streak. Cross pulled his pension grabber bill; no casino; his choice for Supt. is a dunderhead; the city is broke; and he has thousands of anarchists coming here to trash the place next May; he has totally alienated the Police & Fire Depts that he will need to preserve order; and the media is starting to lift the sewer lids & expose City Hall scandals. You knew all along that this guy was going to walk around naked screaming eventually, just as he did in Washington.
Rumor is that Hillard is not answering his phone.
time to start printing the Jody Weis "miss me yet?" t-shirts...
from the 13th district community closure meeting:
The weak-stick looking commander for 13 will become commander for new 12 / 13.
the current commander of 12 "will be very well taken care of."
the Rhaminator is in fact a loser...oh, he's had good, powerful positions, made a lot of money along the way, but as a person, an individual.....a loser, devoid of personality, character, the capability to relate to people and lead by example, to recruit and cultivate the best and brightest (not just to select flunkies, political appointees and relatives, and yes men)...a total and abject failure..his selection of McNutt reflects that failure..
Hey - to whoever said "even DTEB knows not to say something stupid to the media". Don't forget DTEB was hybridizing the vice unit by having no gambling investigations in Chicago.
Classical line by McSupt when he got pissed off tonight during this back and forth at the 013 meeting...
McSupt: Whataya want?
Citizens: More cops!!
McSupt: Whataya think? I gotta closet full of cops?
Citizen to cop standing by her: No. But we have a closet full of clowns downtown.
We should quit complaining about the $4.50 to park at court? The money we are earning isn't tax free. We are on duty. Shit, why don't we pay to park at the districts too, asshat.
Sorry off topic...was thinking about joining the credit union again.....anyone have any input on the patrolman credit union? Thx
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steer clear of the credit union !!!
they forhet what the whole mission of the credit union is/ was- to help POLICE OFFICERS !!
THEY ACT JUST LIKE A BANK, and have lost the grip of our dept members... FUCK YOU PATROLMAN CREDIT UNION,
long time customer , soon to pull out and go elsewhere and also spreading the word that you all forget that we are human just like the rest of society and you turn your backs on the core of this department--- members in need of financial help!!
"McCarthy is the first high level city official to feel the wrath of Rahm."
Like the Emanuel family, with all of their boxes from "Golan Movers," McC is not from around here, doesn't like the place, and won't be staying long.
Tourists, all of them.
Rahm wants to fix his budget...why not start with inquiring how many wasted dollars are being spent on IPRA Investigators who are sitting on cases for years. Look at city council meeting minutes from last month and you will see IPRA investigations are a major problem! No matter what dammage McCarthy has done, no one can f*** that officer more than IPRA. They want more police on the street and they are all stuck in callback. Look at Swis: It has been almost 5yrs since he was stripped. He was acquitted in federal court, civil suit is history, IPRA hearing months ago and he is still rotting in call back.
FOP (now stands for F***Our Police)
Correction to earlier post, it was police board meeting minutes from last month not city council regarding IPRA
Ok so someone could be yanking my chain but here is what I was told.
Mc Supt has realized that going down to 3 areas (North, Central and South) is not going to work. In fact it would actually cost more money if the Police Department would do this. And he does not want it to get out (oops). As it stands now Area Five would close with Area Five Districts being split up among Area Four and Three. With Area Three getting the majority.
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Watch, calling it now. 025 is a haz mat disaster. It will be closed and will be demolished.
Really?? Semms to me that these rumors of his impending demise are all just wishful thinking from people who never liked an outsider as head of the department. What these folks really like is an ass kisser, bootlicker who follows every order to the letter that comes from city hall and who sells all good , unconnected police officer right down the drain when it comes to promotions and assignments. By the way, that is exactly what we have had as superintendent for the past 30 years.Keep it up, you might get what you wish for.
10/25/2011 10:13:00 AM
WTF are you smoking?
I saw 9.5 on some a.m. show that started at 0900, and he got a standing ovation--no joke. At first it looked like a just a few of the back rows, but then it looked like the whole audience!
And it went on for awhile! Do they give these people free drinks before the show or what? He was such an imbecile, it's hard to believe no one has punched his lights out yet.
OT , less than 400 police officers including supervisors will retire in 2011 . I doubt that more than 250 will retire in 2012 . FOP just made the 100 + for free health ins.
this year .
Our pension fund is safe , wait til FOP loses the free health at age 55 . City of Chicago will not contribute any $ toward health insurance for Future Retirees after June 30 , 2013 .
Looks like Officers with less than 20 years and under 50 will be working until they are 60 for paid health insurance until they are 65 or stay until they are 63 years old . Shortshanks wants to know if you miss him and Jfled yet .
10/25/2011 03:33:00 PM
I saw two policewomen in the past week who looked like they could have great-grandchildren. I mean, old as shit! Plus I saw that ET Eddie whatever, who came on before I did--he's married to a doctor? WTF? What is he, like 100 and doctoring his appt date or something?
After the shooting of the two children in Avondale Park, McNUTTY actually picked up a young child, who was a witness, and held her, like a super hero he thinks he is, while she spoke into the microphone.
Thank God the press had more sense then he did. I know I was there.
You have to be a total fuck up to head a dept. and go on tv and say the dept screwed up. Moron
I wouldn't doubt the story is true. The media wanted a comment from the Sup. re. the mass arrests as he was entering that dinner and he had no comment, a first
time to start printing the Jody Weis "miss me yet?" t-shirts...
10/25/2011 09:54:00 PM
I'm never going to miss that retard!
Never! What are you smoking? CRACK?
Some people for one reason or another, just CANNOT shut the F**K UP! This guy is from NEW JERSEY, where you swim with the fishies if you yap too much! Hasn't he learned?
Know what I'm tired of? People not recognizing the true problem!
Example: canine sergeant bitching about the clouted k9 handler.
Advice: do your job! Write his ass up and stop the bullshit!
When dugan started having each deputy chief do a sgt's job by signing off on all spar's prior to sending them through officially, he continued what essentially has been a de-balling of the first line of supervision. Only through empowering your front line supervisors and giving them back the authority and demanding that they do their jobs and supervise instead of being everyone's best buddy will this department move forward. When they are constantly micro-managed you get nothing but an empty uniform!
OT: Is there any truth that Chief Debbi Kirby and Steve Georgeis will be on that show Dancing with the Stars.
I got 35 yoj and never seen her. Is she a good dancer ? Or is someone pulling my leg. Thanks guys
You know what? I'm tired. I feel like I've been kicked and booted about for 25+ years. This job used to be fun. I finally realized, that trying to change things, or worrying about how awful things are, are a waste of time.
I had it explained to me the other day. People pay lobbyists who can deliver influence. Lobbyists are paid by the people they can buy benefits for. This is the way of the world, the way of politics. Illegal shit, influence peddling,illegal contracts, and all the rest, are just how business is done.
So I'm not old enough to retire and get the hell out of here and buy an ostrich farm or get a gov't subsidy for a 'green company' that makes filet mignon out of tumbleweeds...my pension looks like it'll be gone.
I'll end up a hoarder, with 300 cats and a boa constrictor I'll name Pee Wee. I will rock in a rocking chair that squeaks and I'll watch a few sunrises and sunsets with a bottle of jack and a pail to pee in, wondering why I wasted 25 years of my life actually giving a shit when nothing really mattered. Then one day, I'll hear the freight train whistle in the distance and I will go lay on the tracks.
I would like to thank the politicians, liars, and thieves for all of their respect.
How about Leo for supe? He could just continue his lies on a greater level..Wooooooooooo!!
"Please you make $45. = per hour to attend court . Pay the $4.75 .
Cheap coppers . Next contract Rahm will be taking away uniform allowance , duty availability and a few holidays . Look for a bump in pension contributions."
Simple solution. Don't go to court. Rahm can go fuck himself with his half finger too. There won't be any settling of the contract for at least 2-3 years after June 30, 2012. Time for the FOP to pull the same shit the city and little dicky did to us for years. Uniform allowance and duty pay ain't going any fucking place for a long time.
NOW GET OFF OUR BLOG YOU HACK!
I would suspect that most of what 'fly on the wall' posted here is right on the money. Maybe Tiny Dancer
9.5 IS going to lose Mcnutty in early 2012 after all.
Sorry off topic...was thinking about joining the credit union again.....anyone have any input on the patrolman credit union? Thx
10/25/2011 10:38:00 AM
Don't do it. Their rates suck. Their service sucks. You can get better rates at any bank around.
I agree COMPLETELY. Patrolmen's CU is nothing more than a bunch of greedy thugs. If you're not in, consider yourself FORTUNATE.
from the 13th district community closure meeting:
The weak-stick looking commander for 13 will become commander for new 12 / 13.
the current commander of 12 "will be very well taken care of."
10/25/2011 09:59:00 PM
FYI, the taxpaying citizens of 13 -- those of us who actually interact with our police officers in a positive manner -- like Cmdr. Gross. We liked Cmdr Martin as well. Tobias? Condescending ass who acted like he was doing us a favor by talking to us. Laughed when we saw looking like the over-promoted fool that he is at the attempted "Occupy Grant Park" sleepovers.
Sorry off topic...was thinking about joining the credit union again.....anyone have any input on the patrolman credit union? Thx
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steer clear of the credit union !!!
they forhet what the whole mission of the credit union is/ was- to help POLICE OFFICERS !!
THEY ACT JUST LIKE A BANK, and have lost the grip of our dept members... FUCK YOU PATROLMAN CREDIT UNION,
long time customer , soon to pull out and go elsewhere and also spreading the word that you all forget that we are human just like the rest of society and you turn your backs on the core of this department--- members in need of financial help!!
Had a loan with Patrolman's Credit Union. Fell on financial hard times. Tried to work something out. They wouldn't negotiate. They filed a civil suit and added $4,000 lawyer fees. It never went to court. They said they would drop $3,000 of the fees if i pay up. At the end I paid them a $1,000 more than i owed them. They will screw you in a heartbeat
Wtf. Can they please fix atleast 50 of the 100 craters in the parking lot in area one. ??
10/25/2011 08:55:00 PM
Do a city service request asshole, or just wait for someone else to do it while you post on the blog. Take some initiative and do your job.
We don't care how you did it in New York.
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
10/25/2011 08:37:00 PM
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Bruce, until you got area three, you held your ego in check pretty well. Then you turned into a monumental ass. Enjoy your pension check, reconnect with your family and stay the hell off the blog. Blatant self-promotion is ugly.
Mc Supt knows that a patrol supervisor should NOT be in charge of a Detective if he or she was never one.
Unfortunately there are supervisors in the Detective Division that were not Detectives as well.
Hey McSupe, want to do something positive? Rectify this immediately!
10/25/2011 08:00:00 PM
Disagree. A good supervisor can supervise anywhere.
to attend court . Pay the $4.75 .
Cheap coppers . Next contract Rahm will be taking away uniform allowance , duty availability and a few holidays . Look for a bump in pension contributions.
10/25/2011 04:48:00 PM
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Save those receipts. It's job-related and tax-deductible.
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
10/25/2011 08:37:00 PM
Phil "Phat Phil" Cline, Joe "Joker Joe" DeLopez, Dan "O-RAH" Dugan, Terry "Taser Terry" Hillard, Bruce "Lincolnwood" Rotner, and Jody "J-FLED" Weis are all where they belong. GONE!
And they should stay GONE! Garry "McJoke" McCarthy needs to join the list, but once he does join the list, the answer is not an old, broke-down, power-seeking, soul-selling, money-hungry retread.
I won't say the FOP should ignore this, but why aren't you raggin on the PBPA?
10/25/2011 08:23:00 PM
Thanks to Past President Pookie, the PBPA is barely solvent. Dues will be raised again just to afford the mortgage on that firetrap of a building at 39th/Ashland. A complete farce of a "union". Every current officer should be indicted for negligence after allowing Pookie to steal seven figures.
$50 bucks a month so they can eat at Gibson's and spend the night at downtown hotels after meetings. Every last one of them should hang themselves in shame!
This officer should seek legal advice for a law suit against the city and the superintendent for defamation of character
OT , less than 400 police officers including supervisors will retire in 2011 . I doubt that more than 250 will retire in 2012 . FOP just made the 100 + for free health ins.
this year .
Our pension fund is safe , wait til FOP loses the free health at age 55 . City of Chicago will not contribute any $ toward health insurance for Future Retirees after June 30 , 2013 .
Looks like Officers with less than 20 years and under 50 will be working until they are 60 for paid health insurance until they are 65 or stay until they are 63 years old . Shortshanks wants to know if you miss him and Jfled yet .
10/25/2011 03:33:00 PM
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You are seriously mistaken. Nearly four hundred people have put in to retire in the next TWO MONTHS. Add that to whatever the totals were up to October and you get the true retirement totals for the year.
Can't take the rest of your post seriously, after seeing how wrong the first sentence is.
Man I'm drunk anyone want to go shoot out some street lights on western????????
Please you make $45. = per hour to attend court . Pay the $4.75 .
Cheap coppers . Next contract Rahm will be taking away uniform allowance , duty availability and a few holidays . Look for a bump in pension contributions.
10/25/2011 04:48:00 PM
You give them an inch, they take a mile!
How much are you paying for your Insurance? It USED TO BE FREE! Then they asked for a dollar.
Aww, come on, its just A DOLLAR... What is it now?
Its FREE now, and the way it shuld be.
Oohh, its just $4.75, then its $4.75 an hour...
WE didnt bankrupt the City or County, THEY did. Now you want to be happy about paying for it? FUCK THEM!
The only people that fuck up CPD are the politicians.....
10/25/2011 06:34:00 PM
OH HELL NO!
There are a TON of cops that fuck this place up too!
Mc Supt knows that a patrol supervisor should NOT be in charge of a Detective if he or she was never one.
Unfortunately there are supervisors in the Detective Division that were not Detectives as well.
Hey McSupe, want to do something positive? Rectify this immediately!
Sorry but as a detective, I disagree; some of the best supervisors i've worked for have never been detectives; they don't try to dazzle you with their investigative brilliance, like most who were detectives. They let us do our job, help when needed, and are almost always better with slips.. I know some good Sgts. that would be great in the "D" if given the chance.. From a Det. in Area 4..
He's a "throw away".
Rahm just brought him here to be the white guy to take the heat for cutting police service, period.
1:07pm, great theory!
I've been thinking something similar, that is all of this station and area closing. It's not what he is closing to make himself look good, it's what he re-opens five years from now, and puts in his own hand picked loyalists. Kind of dismantle an element of the old machine and reassemble it later with his own machinists?
for a bump in pension contributions.
10/25/2011 04:48:00 PM
You give them an inch, they take a mile!
How much are you paying for your Insurance? It USED TO BE FREE! Then they asked for a dollar.
Aww, come on, its just A DOLLAR... What is it now?
Its FREE now, and the way it shuld be.
Oohh, its just $4.75, then its $4.75 an hour...
WE didnt bankrupt the City or County, THEY did. Now you want to be happy about paying for it? FUCK THEM!
10/26/2011 01:22:00 AM
My grandmother told me once that when initially introduced the government assured the taxpayers that federal income tax was "going to be temporary."
I wonder if Preckwinkle realizes what an arrogant jagoff she sounds like. "It's their civic duty."
Fuck You. They mismanaged every dime they got their hands on and more and more all of them from Quinn on down make the cuts sounds like threats. Most of their statements imply that WE the taxpayers aren't doing enough and essentially should be squeezed and punished. Every single one of them should be run out of town on a rail. They're useless. They are in it for themselves and not one of them is suffering the way the taxpayers are. It's just a recipe for disaster. They are all incompetent, plain and simple.
---not a cop
I've seen Bruce at lots of funerals, every ribbon ceremony and even a few weddings (including my own!) Bruce is a class act but hopefully he's enjoying his well earned retirement.
to attend court . Pay the $4.75 .
Cheap coppers . Next contract Rahm will be taking away uniform allowance , duty availability and a few holidays . Look for a bump in pension contributions.
How exactly is he going to accomplish all of this? Is he going to take his magic eraser and just start erasing these things from a legally binding contract? You're not very bright.
Anonymous said...
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
10/25/2011 08:37:00 PM
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Bruce, until you got area three, you held your ego in check pretty well. Then you turned into a monumental ass. Enjoy your pension check, reconnect with your family and stay the hell off the blog. Blatant self-promotion is ugly.
10/26/2011 12:38:00 AM
Still pissed because he dumped you from the Gun Team, aren't you? The guy retired 4 months ago. Move on, get a life and get over yourself, moron!!!
Re: Credit Union. Just got a new car loan there. Five years at 2.2%,that is a very good rate. Lady that handled was professional and friendly.
I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet!
10/25/2011 02:40:00 PM
Three words: "random drug testing".
And to the guy who pines for the old bosses: Are you nuts? We are in deep shit, and the old bosses, with very few exceptions, drove us there.
The old bosses were the champions of two tiered discipline (Not My guy. Oh wait, I don't know you. Screw you.)and Department needs a lot of sunlight and the politicians need to be recycled. TERM LIMITS.
I'll end up a hoarder, with 300 cats and a boa constrictor I'll name Pee Wee. I will rock in a rocking chair that squeaks and I'll watch a few sunrises and sunsets with a bottle of jack and a pail to pee in, wondering why I wasted 25 years of my life actually giving a shit when nothing really mattered. Then one day, I'll hear the freight train whistle in the distance and I will go lay on the tracks.
I would like to thank the politicians, liars, and thieves for all of their respect.
10/25/2011 11:27:00 PM
name that boa 'Reggie', and you just might get laid.
I have posted this before elsewhere, but for general information, unless the law has been changed very recently, the Mayor cannot simply fire the Supt. Action by the Police Board is required to terminate the employment of a Superintendent appointed by the sitting Mayor.
Or is someone pulling my leg. Thanks guys
10/25/2011 11:27:00 PM
if you're lucky, it ain't your leg that's being pulled.
even Opie fessed up when he broke a streetlamp. Our supt. is a phony.
is it just me... or does Nancy Grace really look hot on dancing with the stars ?
I like her Georgia accent. She is a peach.
I am not smoking anything. It seems that you do not agree with my comment that the past superintendents ( the last 20-30 years) have all been tools of city hall ? Sad that you are so stupid.
I guess loose lips really can sink ships.
Anonymous said...
Who remembers what this department was before an outsider came in to run it. To all you that bashed Phil and couldn't wait for him to be shit canned, how ya feel now? The only person that should be running this department is someone who started here. Back to back failures. When will the mayor and the police board figure it out. While there are not an abundance of qualified bosses that could run this place, there is still a few competant bosses who could do it. Hell, even EB knows not to say shit like to the media. Ya I know that the mayor makes the decisions but a cpd bred sup would make better day to day minor decisions. It's unfortunate that Weis shitcanned all the qualified bosses. i.e dugan
You name me one boss on this department that is actually qualified to be a commander let alone the supe. And fat phil is the one responsible for all the bosses we are dealing with today. They were all promoted under him. Brown, Cuello, Skahill, Stanley. Just to name a few. So yes along with the last two morons running things I will blame fat Phil just as much. Dugan was better than anything we have now but even he was a little wacky with some of his policies
I propose Chief Byrne. Smart, qualified, seems to care about the troops.
I am not Byrne, I have not worked for him and he is not my friend.
Sorry but as a detective, I disagree; some of the best supervisors i've worked for have never been detectives; they don't try to dazzle you with their investigative brilliance, like most who were detectives. They let us do our job, help when needed, and are almost always better with slips.. I know some good Sgts. that would be great in the "D" if given the chance.. From a Det. in Area 4..
. . . as illustrated by the stunning clear-up rate
03;33 If the city takes free health care off the table for 55 it will surely do it for 60 There will just be no free health care while you are working regardless of age
Dugan was better than anything we have now but even he was a little wacky with some of his policies.
a legend in his own mind, but he did get Dep Sup pay for Lt duties on the way out
Maybe we should lighten up on our NYPD overlord.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nypd_rogues_smugglers_cove_MZcYka8r7Uk7xNuUB45BDN
Now over the years we've had cops get in bed with drug dealers, mobsters, tow truck drivers and even possibly act as hitmen.
However, I don't recall any one case which covers so many different aspects of criminality.
Gun running, cigs, slot machines, the mob.........I am truly jealous. I guess the NYPD truly is better than we are.
I bow down before our NYPD overlord and shall shoot out some streetlights and get in the faces of some suburban cops doing their jobs in honor of his enlightened leadership.
Superintendent McCarthy, I salute you.
Anonymous said...
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
10/25/2011 08:37:00 PM
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Bruce, until you got area three, you held your ego in check pretty well. Then you turned into a monumental ass. Enjoy your pension check, reconnect with your family and stay the hell off the blog. Blatant self-promotion is ugly.
10/26/2011 12:38:00 AM
Yeah, reconnect with your family, Bruce. It must have been tough living in the city all those years while they were living in Lincolnwood. Do as I say...
Anonymous said...
When dugan started having each deputy chief do a sgt's job by signing off on all spar's prior to sending them through officially, he continued what essentially has been a de-balling of the first line of supervision. Only through empowering your front line supervisors and giving them back the authority and demanding that they do their jobs and supervise instead of being everyone's best buddy will this department move forward. When they are constantly micro-managed you get nothing but an empty uniform!
10/25/2011 11:24:00 PM
Yes, quite true. This deserves its own thread.
If these goofs were not in the public sector they would be fired and sued as CEOs of whatever company they headed.
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the reason they are not in the private sector is because they are all but unemployable there in any responsible position. they would be lucky to get a job as a first line supervisior much less as an executive with a billion dollar budget.
Had a loan with Patrolman's Credit Union. Fell on financial hard times. Tried to work something out. They wouldn't negotiate. They filed a civil suit and added $4,000 lawyer fees. It never went to court. They said they would drop $3,000 of the fees if i pay up. At the end I paid them a $1,000 more than i owed them. They will screw you in a heartbeat
10/26/2011 12:19:00 AM
DID YOU LOSE YOUR JOB? If not, your pay stayed the same and your bills went up! Who is responsible for that? Live within your means and/or take responsibility!!!! Work special or a side job!
I can't stand lazy bust-outs who blame everyone but their own carelessness! You are no better than someone on welfare! Get off your ass!
As i recall, there is also an ordinance that requires a city counsel vote to dismiss the superintendent. That and a vote by the police board. These were put in place when Harold became the mayor. You have to wonder, with these protections in place, why have the past superintendents caved so easily to city hall demands? They could have taken a stand on some important issues and made the mayor back down or risk public hearings. However, all of them caved. Uncle Terry got his reward, a security/investigations company with tons of government contracts.Millionaire many times over and does not have to go to the office.
I hear the canine officer in question worked a beat car for 23 years before going on canine. What a mistake he should have gotten a merit promotion like the Sgt. who is beefing. Now this Sgt. works 4 hour days with a duck day on his Friday. What a joke.
Boss, I know just who you are talking about, so I will explain your point to him when I see him. I'm not sure why you didn't tell him yourself, unless it is because your balls are smaller than your mouth, perhaps? Like him or hate him, you have to admit he'd never sit anonymously behind a computer keyboard and whine about you or anyone else, he'd say it to your face. But I too am just a Patrolman, so maybe I'm wrong...
Anonymous said...
Had a loan with Patrolman's Credit Union. Fell on financial hard times. Tried to work something out. They wouldn't negotiate. They filed a civil suit and added $4,000 lawyer fees. It never went to court. They said they would drop $3,000 of the fees if i pay up. At the end I paid them a $1,000 more than i owed them. They will screw you in a heartbeat
10/26/2011 12:19:00 AM
DID YOU LOSE YOUR JOB? If not, your pay stayed the same and your bills went up! Who is responsible for that? Live within your means and/or take responsibility!!!! Work special or a side job!
I can't stand lazy bust-outs who blame everyone but their own carelessness! You are no better than someone on welfare! Get off your ass!
10/26/2011 03:16:00 PM
A very well put response.
I've seen Bruce at lots of funerals, every ribbon ceremony and even a few weddings (including my own!) Bruce is a class act but hopefully he's enjoying his well earned retirement.
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Yes. I'm sure he enjoyed being at your wedding and you enjoyed him being there!!!
This is a very true story and there was a civilian witness who observed RAHM being very pissed off.
I like the post about Bruce Rottner as civilian Superintendent of Police. Rottner has 40 years with the CPD and could be the voice of calm and reason. People would bend over backward working for him. Are you listrning RAHM? Admit your mistake and dump this crazy loud mouth from NY.
Re: Credit Union. Just got a new car loan there. Five years at 2.2%,that is a very good rate. Lady that handled was professional and friendly.
10/26/2011 07:58:00 AM
I just bought a car too, went through a bank and got 1.8% for 60 mos.
"The FBI Announces Gangs Have Infiltrated Every Branch Of The Military"
They've been with CPD for years...Pac Man, Miedzianowski (sp?), etc.
Nevertheless be careful. These guys are coming back with military tactics and have more real-world experience and training than we'll ever get.
"Would someone please explain to THE PATROLMAN with the Canine, that HIS FATHER was The DEPT SUPT, not him. I have been a Supv for a long time..."
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but isn't it YOUR job as a supervisor to tell him?
At the very least, talk with his boss.
Wearing the white shirt doesn't just make you a better target for the bad guys, it also carries certain responsibilities.
(O.K., I'm being a smart ass with the "better target"-thing, but the remainder is sincere).
like the post about Bruce Rottner as civilian Superintendent of Police. Rottner has 40 years with the CPD and could be the voice of calm and reason
=NO NO NO sure he is your clout But we need new young blood
I like the post about Bruce Rottner as civilian Superintendent of Police. Rottner has 40 years with the CPD and could be the voice of calm and reason. People would bend over backward working for him. Are you listrning RAHM? Admit your mistake and dump this crazy loud mouth from NY.
10/26/2011 06:57:00 PM
I second that nomination.
Not Bruce
I have been treated professionally (even kindly when in dire straights) by credit union employees on several occasions.
OT: Is there any truth that Chief Debbi Kirby and Steve Georgeis will be on that show Dancing with the Stars?
OMG, this was fucking hilarious, spit out my beer all over my keyboard, hahahahahaha
Sorry but as a detective, I disagree; some of the best supervisors i've worked for have never been detectives; they don't try to dazzle you with their investigative brilliance, like most who were detectives. They let us do our job, help when needed, and are almost always better with slips.. I know some good Sgts. that would be great in the "D" if given the chance.. From a Det. in Area 4..
. . . as illustrated by the stunning clear-up rate
The clearance rate has nothing to do with the above; if you were in the D or have a clue you would know that. When you are extremely short-handed, like our D unit is (no promotions in 4 years) your caseload is huge, if you have no leads you suspend and move to the next, pending any new leads, I.E. AFIS hits, CODIS hits, new witnesses that were previously reluctant to cooperate etc. the stringent 48 hr. rule, witnesses abilility to not cooperate and walk out, the inability to take a witness to the grand jury and lock them into their story (the state's attorney written statement isn't cutting it anymore,) and state's attorneys who try the cases in the AREA, instead of in a courtroom. These are the reasons for a low clearance rate. I'm not even in the D, and I realize it..
Anonymous said...
Bring back Bruce Rottner as a civilian superintendent. He has the people skills to handle this job. He could handle the demands of this position. He knows how to work in a politicial environment. He could hold this job down for three to six years, let the tempest pass,and the department could go from there.
10/25/2011 08:37:00 PM
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Bruce, until you got area three, you held your ego in check pretty well. Then you turned into a monumental ass. Enjoy your pension check, reconnect with your family and stay the hell off the blog. Blatant self-promotion is ugly.
10/26/2011 12:38:00 AM
Still pissed because he dumped you from the Gun Team, aren't you? The guy retired 4 months ago. Move on, get a life and get over yourself, moron!!!
10/26/2011 07:21:00 AM
Ah, that would be a big "NO". I've never worked a gun team, I've never worked directly for him and I am retired.
He became way too full of himself as he went higher up, which is sad, but all too common. I don't wish him ill, but I certainly don't think he should be superintendent. Ever.
RE: Credit Union, 1.8% for 60 months? What bank? Did you put any money down? I financed entire purchase price. Was told rate would have been lower if I put down 20% and lower yet if I had a checking account with them.
I have been saving at the credit union since 1973. I did have to take out a loan there many years ago to help out a family member. The people at the creidt union are very good at helping police officers. However, it seems way too many of our fellow officers just do not pay back loans. Deadbeats. Live within your means. You have the ability to work many part-time jobs if you need extra cash. Do not bash the credit union.
screw the credit union, they do not look out for us.. Just got my car loan thru the dealer.... 0.9 for 48 months.
Bruce might be the next Police Chief in Lincolnwood
. . . as illustrated by the stunning clear-up rate
The clearance rate has nothing to do with the above; if you were in the D or have a clue you would know that. When you are extremely short-handed, like our D unit is (no promotions in 4 years) your caseload is huge, if you have no leads you suspend and move to the next, pending any new leads, I.E. AFIS hits, CODIS hits, new witnesses that were previously reluctant to cooperate etc. the stringent 48 hr. rule, witnesses abilility to not cooperate and walk out, the inability to take a witness to the grand jury and lock them into their story (the state's attorney written statement isn't cutting it anymore,) and state's attorneys who try the cases in the AREA, instead of in a courtroom. These are the reasons for a low clearance rate. I'm not even in the D, and I realize it..
10/27/2011 01:35:00 AM
Great post. Great description of the situation. Supervisors have little control over the clear-up rate when the bosses just want that paper pushed out the door asap.
From someone who once WAS in the D (and is now happily working in private industry).
Changes in the detective division are iminent. A team of detectives ( squad) will be assigned to each district and they will not be in uniform. They will be accountable to the district commander however and to the watch commanders, which will, as I am told, make them do a little work for a change.
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