Time for a No Confidence Vote
- Despite the video, the Police Department ruled Farmer's June 7 death justified, just as it had Sierra's other two shootings this year. But police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said he considers the Farmer case "a big problem" and told the Tribune that the officer involved should not have been on the street given his history of shootings.
The shooting is under investigation by the FBI, the Tribune has learned.
So the superintendent is commenting on a case currently under investigation? And this?
- McCarthy told the Tribune the previous administration failed to recognize a pattern in police shootings and had no mechanism to track if officers were repeatedly involved in shootings. He also said the department did not have a system in place to monitor the emotional and psychological state of officers involved in shootings, suggesting they could be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and should be kept off the streets until they are better.
Without naming Sierra, he said the first two shootings were justified but that the officer should have been assigned to desk duty before Farmer was shot.
"He shouldn't have been where he was," McCarthy said during a recent meeting with the Tribune editorial board. "We should've had him off the street so that he was not in that particular environment and that problematic type of scenario."
We didn't realize that McTool had a medical degree that allows him to diagnose PTSD conditions and remove officers from the streets without any due process. If the first two shootings were justified, how is he making this leap that the last one isn't? Some people have a nose for guns - we've all met them. We've known, met and worked with a few who had upwards of twenty shootings in their careers and they were damn fine officers. One of them even posts here at SCC occasionally.
And the topper:
And the topper:
- McCarthy told the Tribune that the officer could face criminal charges.
"One of the big questions I got when I got here was are you going to have our backs," McCarthy said. "I said, 'Absolutely … but I'm not going to defend indefensible behavior and don't expect me to.'"
Perhaps McTwoFaced can explain to the membership exactly how this is "indefensible." Because from everything the article says, this is still under investigation by the FBI of all people and as far as he knows, no Grand Jury has been empaneled.
How about just keeping your fucking mouth shut McDumbass. Try this one on for size:
How about just keeping your fucking mouth shut McDumbass. Try this one on for size:
- THIS IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT TO COMMENT ON SUCH A MATTER AT THIS TIME LEST I INTERFERE WITH THE OFFICER'S CONSTITUTIONALLY AND CONTRACTUALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS.
Time for a "No Confidence" vote. McRahm has proven by his actions to be nothing more than another tool of the mayor, a carpetbagger brought in to demoralize and demonize the police in Chicago for whatever reasons lurk in the dark recesses of his master's heart. FOP, are you listening?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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How about giving the guys or girls who are involed in a shooting a medal and an inside spot. They give inside spots to do nothings. How about giving it to the working police.
I had a shooting and it took 1 1/2 to get my gun back. I had a loaner gun the whole time. I didn't even get three days off because they said I'll get one and then have my RDO's.
City a joke.
McNY=Weiss
Is that how they do it in NY? Throwing officers under the bus before a case is resolved in court?
So far unimpressed with the NY way.
Is it that far fetched thar an officer in Englewood could be involved in multiple shootings?
Englewood is not manhattan or gentrified Bronx.
The supt just sunk this officer in the civil trial. What a complete jagoff! FOP needs to send the message clear and now: NO CONFIDENCE!!!
GS is a good guy and we need people like this on our side. Someone who is not scared and whos intentions are just. F*** anyone who tries to second guess his actions. Never saw him standing around desk checkin his Email was always out there looking for the bad guy.
4th Dist
•McCarthy told the Tribune that the officer could face criminal charges.
How about he goes to jail for playing the police.
BEAUTIFUL.
Maybe McDufuss wants to be "ousted" or replaced and he doesn't want to "quit" so will do stupid shit like commenting "unprofessionally" like a "bad politician" so hoping to be replaced.
Maybe he sees a sinking ship here in Chicago or the stress is too much or he just doesn't want to do this anymore. Maybe being the "SCAPEGOAT" isn't his cup of tea.
Because frankly....
HE IS NOT THINKING STRAIGHT HERE OR IS HE?
I think RAHM should see it that way too!
He also may become a potential detriment in the RAHM campaign and may fuck up something else for Rahms future endeavors so he may be forcing the "move" that Rahm may have to make!
Maybe the G8/NATO anticipation and that potential disaster is getting to MCDUMASS. MAybe he figures bail now so ......OPEN YOUR MOUTH WHILE NOT PUTTING TOO MUCH THOUGHT INTO WHAT COMES OUT!
Fuckin' ridiculous! Especially when we had capable "LEADERS" here to handle things within the CPD already before his hiriing!
3 bars
McJersey came here having previously been a SWORN police officer elsewhere and I think many of us felt we should give him the benefit of the doubt before judging him, BUT is this guy REALLY much different or better than the last idiot who held the rank?
Seems like just another ass-kissin politician... and not necessarily a very bright one either.
Just sayin.
McCarth plans to promote a certain person from 21 when it close and make her a gold star in the organization, could he be that nutz. Oh no CW is coming to s district as boss
Looks to me like the first "shot" is nothing but a headlight from the traffic in the background. How much you want to bet that the "gunfire" was nothing more than the headlights reflecting in a strange way.
He is right. The department should have a mechanism to monitor people who are in multiple shootings and other stressful situations. It probably would have saved this poor kid some prison time. Without letting too much out of the bag, you don't have enough information on this situation. But I do agree that Supt. Situation should STFU during an ongoing investigation.
So, in order to take a backhanded slap to Jody Weis' head, McScummy USED a Chicago police officer. If the intention was to make himself look better in comparison to Weis, he failed.
Wait it out, sir, and, after you are vindicated, SUE the hell out of this embarrassment of a superintendent, the City and any other entity remotely involved.
People in glass houses shouldn't draw attention to themselves. If there's ANYONE in this scenario who shouldn't be 'put in this position', it's Garry McCarthy. And the position in question is Superintendent.
He's too stupid to hang his head in shame over his MANY mortifying actions during his short tenure here, so this department has to bear it, instead. Professionalism has left the building.
AMEN!
"Time for a No Confidence Vote"
Indeed it is.
indefensible behavior
Like getting drunk and shooting out street lights.
Getting arrested for chest pumping the cop who wrote your daughter a ticket.
Hmm or how about domestic violence?
Niles Il Father Nagel Party?
These 2 short vids say alot about
our Chicken Noodle Supe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WBKjcyi8Kw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH53CZarUbA
Give him time so he can really step on his dick, DUI, domestic battery, or something like that, guy like MCCARTHY always fuck themselves, because their egos will not let them say no.
I just feel for the officer. It's bad enough to be in that situation, but then to be second guessed to the point of FBI involved has got to be the worst feeling ever. We have to make a split second decision and it means life or death. Now this poor officer will have people analyzing those 10 seconds for years. This really is a f*cked up job.
G*d bless you office and stay strong. All of us in blue have your back. We are the only ones that trully know what it feels like to be in those situation, and it f*ckin sucks.
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
It's a terribly sad statement but I believe when Rahm and McNutty are done sabotaging our once proud department they'll make Shanks and JFraud seem like not too bad of guys. Who would have ever thunk it?? We are SO fucked!!
Its sad SCC,
It truly is.
Maybe you are right.
Time for that no confidence vote.
But for TWO people.
McCarthy for trying to hang this copper.
And Shields for NOT STEPPING UP TO DEFEND this copper.
This has deep rooted intentions.
Im sure more will follow.
McCarthy I, like others, gave you the benefit of doubt, but I can honestly say you are no leader. Innocent until proven guilty, remember. Condemn only after guilt has been proven, not before. I still respect the the the office of superintendent, but I do not respect the coward who now sits in it. Please leave you have lost all credibility and are no longer fit to lead men. Brothers and sisters this is our department. God bless the CPD
Officer survivor
The fight should be at Shity Hall instead of Springfield. A large protest at the Daley center would be much louder. There would be better media coverage and it would be heard loud and clear in Springfield. More of the troops would be able to attend and since Da Rah is behind the pension power grab he can watch right from his window. He may even realize how short we are when he will have working guys and gals all over downtown watching the other protest too. It may get so busy even his detail may have to man a beat car in a district short on manpower due to all of the protests. FOP are you listening this is about our financial future maybe set up a duel protest Shity Hall and Springfield!
What other occupation is there that has the power to take a life under the conditions of violence besides the military. Being the police the responsibility of our job hangs on our hip everyday. Who is McGoof to come out and make a comment like this when it was investigated as a good shooting. It sounds like he wants to pull a Cozzi. Hey McGoof the Cozzi thing is what ran the the Weasel out of town in the end! The level of responsibility the police have should be stressed at contract time. The job is like no other and needs to be negotiated that way. Having the power to take a life under violent situations is like no other civil occupation!!!!
Gill seen a gun and acted accordingly, plain and simple. Its to bad for the “bad guy” (and make no fucking mistake about he was a bad guy) that it turned out to be a cell phone. No one can tell officer Sierra what he saw in his mind during the violent confrontation with this offender. “Shoot till the threat is neutralized“, isn’t that what we are taught? “Deadly force” kinda speaks for itself on that matter. Now contrary to Mcthrowyaunderthebuss statements officer Sierra was right where he belonged, mopping up that shit hole we call the 7th dist. As for the offender (to quote a buddy of mine) That’ll learn ya!
McGoof is a knuckle dragging meathead. Please you jagoff don't pull a Cozzi stunt like the last asshole . You'll fuck yourself for the rest of the time you're here.
All right, Beatrice, there was no muzzle flash. The flash of light you saw in the video was not a gun firing. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.... God I wish we all could carry one of those..policing would be so much more fun! Anyway "That'll learn ya" haha
McCarthy is a politician. He simply tells people what they want to here. If he's at roll call, he's got our backs. If he's before the Trib editorial board, he's coming down on rogue cops. If he's at St. Sabina's, he's suddenly a civil rights crusader. What he's not, is the police.
Has this idiot ever worked on the street. He sounds like a political candidate, he certainly does not sound like our supposed leader.
I vote that McStupe is a dumbfuck.
How is blowing hot air out his piehole about an ongoing investigation anything but galactically stupid?
PO's who work in bad neighborhoods get in more shootings, let's say, than 016 or 018. How is it indefensible that he feared for his life and so shot the piece of shit future Nobel Prize winner?
I'd be happy to run petitions around. But of course, we're already being labelled malcontents because we were smart enough to call the last hillbilly inbreed inept.
Yup, I had something happen the other day in my district and am done, done, done doing any police work except responding to calls, assisting my fellow officers and writing reports. And hell, I think 'victims' ought to be going to get a warrant--something that takes a little effort to ensure they are serious to waste time on this joke of a criminal justice system!
And SCC, can we finally name that dope of a boss we're stuck with? How 'bout McPeaNut to go with the ballerino's lack of same and to go along with his pinky-sized dick?
Here's how McStupe sees things:
Oncoming bus...officer standing on curb. McStup drop-kicking said officer under wheels. 'Nuff said.
Asshats, all of them, from city hall to the alderasses.
I don't think there is a country far enough to move to once I finally retire. Most likely somewhere where they eat cats.
And the topper:
McCarthy told the Tribune that the officer could face criminal charges.
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Didn't McRetard say, 'get guns, get guns, annihilate (sp?) the gangs? Here's an update: "gangs have guns...gangs shoot at police...gangs pretend they're shooting at police. Police get in shootings." Put every officer who's been in a shooting in a desk spot--at least that'll force you to hire more coppers.
Go fuck yourself jagoff, and spend some time in 007, or 005,or wherever, until some POS points a gun at you and where you have to finally pull yours out after you blow the cobwebs out of it.
I've said I'm done doing anything on this job. This is the cherry on the sundae--I'me DONE.
Thanks to this dumb fucking McStupe, we'll be writing to the officer while he spends time in some Godforsaken prison.
I'm sure that ball-less, gutless weisal has already notified his fed buddies.
These 2 short vids say alot about
our Chicken Noodle Supe.
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I like that! But it should be 'Chicken Noodle Stupe' or 'Alphabet Stupe' because so far he has f*cked up everything from A to Z so far.
Another Cozzi case in the making.
McASSHOLE has to go – NOW !
That’s right, no clever nickname for that lying whore they imported to rip our souls out and do the bidding of that bastard mayor the machine forced upon us.
God, how I long for some of the old school officers who were on the job when I came on in '87. They would have told half these jags to go fuck themselves, then leave them standing there with their mouths open.
Where are you Roger Wilson, et al?
Armchair quarterbacking at its finest ladies and gentlemen; now the FBI? Put any FBI accountant in the wood on 1st watch for a period and they would be crying for their mommy.
indefensible behavior
Like getting drunk and shooting out street lights.
Getting arrested for chest pumping the cop who wrote your daughter a ticket.
Hmm or how about domestic violence?
Niles Il Father Nagel Party?
10/24/2011 01:46:00 AM
It's the old 'boys will be boys' mentality. Aw, so what, he got drunk and fired his gun. Aw, so what, he threw his weight around over a ticket....
The problem is, I'VE never fired my gun while drunk, or yelled the "N" word at the top of my lungs while drunk, or got into it with a fellow copper over a ticket he gave my daughter...also drunk then, as evidenced by his WIFE driving his police vehicle.
And I'll bet there are a lot of other coppers who haven't either. And oh yeah, wasn't he criminally charged for that incident?
I have no respect for him and if he ever shows up where I work I will be taking the longest dump in history in the nearest bathroom so if stops in he can be stricken by the odiferous atoms I will leave hanging there.
Shit, I'm starting to miss Jody, this McNumbnuts is showing signs of being worse then J-Fled.
I hope this PO is vindicated and after all the crap they're going to drag this guy through, I'd be surprised if he even writes a parker once it's all done. They sure know how to beat the Police out of you.
My friend who is a retired NYPD dick told me to beware of McTool. When he was first promoted and assigned to IAD, he became an aggressive headhunter. When a frivolous complaint was lodged against an officer, he would strive to get him jammed on an unrelated, minor rules violation, then push was maximum punishment. As we know by now, he loves both tv cameras and the sound of his own voice.
At NYPD, Officers involved in shootings are automatically indicted, then exonerated. How's that for due process? Also, you are not allowed ANYTHING free or discounted. Not even a cup of coffee. A small price to pay for retiring after 20 years at any age, lifetime health/dental/vision with no co-pays, and an annual stipend check that averages around 10 grand.
He is right. The department should have a mechanism to monitor people who are in multiple shootings and other stressful situations. It probably would have saved this poor kid some prison time. Without letting too much out of the bag, you don't have enough information on this situation. But I do agree that Supt. Situation should STFU during an ongoing investigation.
It will never happen.
Why?
Because this department is reactive, not proactive. They care more about how they LOOK to the public. And this is because the CPD is run not from 35th and Michigan but from City Hall.
Enough people complain and Rahm will throw you under the bus to save their votes. Doesn't matter if you were in the right, you did something to embarrass the Mayor.
Now we have an officer who works in one of the most dangerous districts being set up as a sacrificial lamb. His boss is making comments about him and the situation. Monday morning quarter backing, and he's doing it in the press while the investigation is still on going.
And the FBI is involved? Why?
Could this be another Cozzi? Could our Mayor, a man who's policy is never let a crisis go to waste,be working to get this officer stripped, fired and then sent to prison on, oh I'll go out on a limb here, another CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION?
Chicago has a rich history of political hacks fucking over people and just fucking up in general, but truly, the comments by McCarthy are the saddest words spoken by a supposed " man "
The darkness and evil thank is in his heart is beyond my compression.
That a Chicago Police Superintendent would make caustic comments as he did would suprise me, but from a worthless hack, not at all.
Go to springfield is fine, but we'll get more attention in Chicago , now is the time guys you have to strike while the irons hot . Pension/ no confidence for both sup and so called mayor if their not going to stand behind our fellow copper then we should.
He can't put the officer on desk duty. The mayor wants all able bodied officers on the street.
remember, those cameras are in the cars for officer safety--- how come none of the tac cars have cameras in them--- keep your head up office, being stripped is a devastating experience--- bye bye button and shield and you are basically no longer the police until the conclusion of the investigation--- we all know that the potential exists for an individual who you sent to prison gets out and spots you shopping somewhere and decides to get some payback--- now if you are stripped you cannot carry your gun because you have no button--- explain to your wife that if you are injured or killed in a situation like this to sue the shit out of the city, ipra, and iad for taking away the ability to defend yourself....
We should definately march on city hall.. Lets get this organized!!!! How about this Friday @ 10am?? Im there.
First, I am not a Cop.
That said, McCarthy is an idiot.
The first two shootings were 100% legit. The officer did his job. He did it well.
The third shooting is UNDER INVESTIGATION!. Why in the hell would he insert himself into this?
Looks to me like he is being pushed by one of the hundreds of "Reverends" in the 'hood". Screw em. If it wasn't for the gang money that runs their "churches" they would not have a "job".
Also, if the city pays one cent to the Pinex family I am out. He thankfully is not amongst the living.
GMAC still thinks he's in NYC. He knows nothing about contractual rights and doesn't care because he hasn't read the contracts. Bet on it. This guy, like Rahm is nothing more than a carpetbagger. Let's fuck up morale even more. What an ass.
I have no confidence in him. He hasn't proven anything to me.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/guns/officers-killed-by-guns/
Map showing the officers killed in the line of duty around the US.
http://cpdjibjabs.blogspot.com/2011/10/could-this-be-rahms-speech-next-year.html
"...THIS IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND IT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT TO COMMENT ON SUCH A MATTER AT THIS TIME LEST I INTERFERE WITH THE OFFICER'S CONSTITUTIONALLY AND CONTRACTUALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS."
Sadly if you look closely there are not many constitutional rights left. The so called "Patriot Act" took most of them away. TSA sticking hands down your pants at the airport so you can fly, downloading data from your laptop and giving you hard time for having a few sliver coins in your bag are perfect examples of the constitutional rights being violated on daily basis. McTool is here to enforce the kill of our constitution and we need to stand up for our rights. All the best to the officer.
Touchy, ain't ya?
"And Shields for NOT STEPPING UP TO DEFEND this copper."
Right. Shields should have known the Tribune planned to run this story. Fore Shame!
Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.. Worst in CPD history...And yes, McTool will step on his dick. GUARANTEED. Already has (St. Sabinas was only the beginning and should have told you everything about him).
Time to do nothing, AGAIN..
You hearing this you dumbass hairgels that voted for Lil Mikey the Lamb.. Remember! Lil Mikey is an accountant! NOT A UNION BOSS..
Do you think Bella would be quiet like Lil "In over my head" Mikey?
The voters and juries have started to say "no more". You are going to have to adapt to that reality or leave the force.
It is maybe not "fair", but it is the way it is.
For many years the voters and juries gave police departments a lot of free passes, and it appears to have led to a lot of Cozzi, Abbate, and Burge type problems. I know it is not as simple as that, but it appears that way.
Whatever goodwill and free passes had built up over the years have long ago been used up, and there won't be any more for a long time to come.
You may not see it, being as close as you are to the situation, but it is possible if you take a step back and think about it some it may be that the city is doing you a huge favor and helping to keep some of you out of jail down the road.
I cringe every time I see a story like this. It does not matter much if the cop did something wrong or not. Few outside the department believes that the department investigates these things except to try and vindicate the employee involved. That is the only incentive the department has (or in this case a quasi-police dept - the IPRA). The extreme secrecy that is often involved in such cases just makes more people believe something bad happened.
These kind of things need to be handled out in the open if you want credibility with the average citizen. That is not going to go away either. For many good reasons, people no longer trust government. And cops are the front line of government.
The new reality is not going away. Other police departments have adapted to it quite well. Fighting to go back to the good old days is a loser, especially given as the good old days never really existed.
Not a cop.
keep workin fools!can u say thrown under the bus !!!
McCarthy I, like others, gave you the benefit of doubt, but I can honestly say you are no leader. Innocent until proven guilty, remember. Condemn only after guilt has been proven, not before. I still respect the the the office of superintendent, but I do not respect the coward who now sits in it. Please leave you have lost all credibility and are no longer fit to lead men. Brothers and sisters this is our department. God bless the CPD
Officer survivor
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Amen! Yea, he may have been the police but when are us officers gonna realize he is not our friend.
http://newarkspeaks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=32058
THIS IS YOUR SUPERINTENDENT...
Here here
Not to worry,if Mc nonutts says there is a flaw in the system and an officer should be on desk duty and have a psychological exam,so be it , this is a great suit against the city if they find the officer at fault!
"McNo-Nuts" boasts that he never read the contract.In addition this level of willingness to speak to the Media at the expense of a pending criminal/disciplinary investigation makes it clear that he is way too incompetent to lead this police agency. Based on his statements, he may end up being a star witness in the civil lawsuit! How can any officer even approach trusting this moron? McNo-Nuts has now had his Cozzi Moment! And for those of you with short memories remember, the Cozzi case was the begining of the end for Weiss.
See the problem is that you consistently talked crap and complained about everything Weis did.
So, now, people will just think you're a cry-baby, a winer and ignore what you have to say.
This guy sucks -- he is by far the worst Sup in 15 years. There is no comparison. And, Weis was far better than most.
Anonymous said...
Its sad SCC,
It truly is.
Maybe you are right.
Time for that no confidence vote.
But for TWO people.
McCarthy for trying to hang this copper.
And Shields for NOT STEPPING UP TO DEFEND this copper.
This has deep rooted intentions.
Im sure more will follow.
10/24/2011 03:14:00 AM
I couldn't agree more! When Shields was out campaigning for himself he didn't have any issues getting the word out about what he stands for. Why is he having a difficult time now standing up for us. He made a comment in the last FOP update stating "I am content to have FOP remain neutral" on gun laws. But to me it seems as though that must be his philosophy here because I'm starting to see a pattern. All this talk in the media bashing CPD...I thought he was supposed to be on our team.
No Confidence Vote for Shields too.
Unconscionable. AND Stupid.
---not a cop
Nothing like railroading someone for doing their job.
A policeman with 3 days on the job knows not to talk about an ungoing case-whether crimial or civil- what is he thinking?
http://mayoraltutorial.com/articles/from_patronage_to_pinstripes_to_star_chamber_politic
fyi
So right SCC, it is time for a Vote of No Confidence against Supt. McDrunkie. The sooner the better. Until then, remember your 2% raise, and work hard to earn it....
holy christ !!!!!
And this lunatic has the last say on your suspenions???
If you do ANYTHING for this asshole you are an asshole
McPuppet strikes again. If this is the NYC way? Take your ass back to Coney Island! He is not the police and never was the police in NYC thats what this tells me...Probably was licking envelopes for 30 years...McStroke does not get my support...Lets give him the JFED treatment...I dont care if you wore the uniform, you are either on our side or you are not...that is what it comes down to...How is this guy different than JFED? At the very least JFED had an excuse never being the police...McChump did wear the uniform and look how he treats us...I think he is far worse than JFED...this guy is a turncoat...he picks politics and self-promotion over the us and the job...To me, he is the same as Joe and the bleeding heart liberal with a picket sign...in my opinion he shouldnt be wearing our uniform either...McStroke pack your bags, we are sick of looking at your phony two-faced ass...at the very least JFED passed the power test...
CPD has become a TOTAL Embarrassment. Glad I retired and am no longer a part of it. Stay safe above all, sorry you fine CPD Officers have to tolerate this on a daily basis. You work in a Hellhole, and get little, if anything more than the average Copper in Naperville, or other Country Club, very low crime Police Agencies do, so please don't get hurt or killed working hard for the political scumbags that run this City, or the lowlifes that inhabit it, and continue to breed the subhumans to grow up to be savage predatory criminals, on OUR Tax Dollars. Just take care of yourselves, your families, and your fellow officers, and get out ASAP.
Cooter said. Let's do it. He's a bigger loser than Jfed
Dont you want officers with experience in shooting bad guys???Practice makes perfect!!!!
GS is a good guy and we need people like this on our side. Someone who is not scared and whos intentions are just. F*** anyone who tries to second guess his actions. Never saw him standing around desk checkin his Email was always out there looking for the bad guy.
4th Dist
10/24/2011 12:21:00 AM
That's the problem. He was a proactive police officer looking for the bad guy. And now he gets the shaft. You can't be the police because NO ONE has your back!
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
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Not exactly sure what you mean by the word fraternize.
If you mean that they are having an intimate (read - sexual) relationship, it's not a smart idea in my opinion but I know of no formal policy (written or verbal) against it. Having a sexual relationship with a subordinate could lead to accusations of sexual harassment; however, sexual relationships like that happen on a very frequent basis.
There allegedly is some policy in place to prevent close relatives (siblings, father/mother & son/daughter, husband & wife, etc) from working on the same watch in the same district, but I could never find anything in writing. Not to mention that even if such a policy did exist it is universally ignored.
Wow! jfled reincarnated? Are you serious mcidiot? You yourself got arrested for interfering in your daughter getting a parking ticket for parking ILLEGALLY,and now you come up with this anti-police bullshit! "Who are you, who the FUCK are you?" You are here again for what? Another example boys and girls PLEASE learn youngster coppers, the more pro-active you are the more you can look forward to kissing your job, pension, spouses, kids, FREEDOM GOODBYE!
A man at this rank says this, but then again this is the same man who trampled through bullet casings as he talked black at a west side ghetto church!
Guys we can't have this us against them that's what the mayor wants this seems a little to convience , he wants the public to hate us , we can't feed into everyone's a low life we won't win that fight we need every hard working citizen to be behind us , and by attacking law abiding citizens who have never committed a crime in there life's right to voice their opinion or protest the billionaires make us look like assholes. We have to show them the flash mobs , and convicted felons that carry a gun and those who catch u outside your garage and take what you go to work at their 9 to 5 is bullshit . Tell them that the mayors numbers is bullshit and that it's bad out here and those crime numbers don't show the real dangers and that death investigation or homicides. We got to fight like they fight not allow them to paint us as some greedy cops that think there better than the average person . We are in Chicago guys not in Iowa . We got to play mr mayors game.
No confidence Vote!!!!!!
Sound s like you need more coppers like this and less bosses like McCarthy.
Sounds like JFLED all over again, this fucking Supt Mctwoface is going to try and put a cop in jail just watch! Can anyone smell Cozzi all over, and this guy calls himself a cop. He can go screw himself, he doesn't have our backs and it's been made clear because he commented negatively on an ongoing investigation. If your out there being proactive your just going to get screwed over either by IPRA or this department. I'm done, all about handling the calls, let them kill each other in the ghetto I don't care anymore!
The point here is you do your job by being aggressive, then they fire you to try to throw you in jail. ANSWER YOUR CALLS THATS IT... GO HOME AND BE SAFE...
With a guy like Gmac in charge speaking like that why they hell would anyboby be aggressive? It's scary to know that our so called leader would make comments like that when he should simply say "NO COMMENT" and that the shooting is under investigation. Very scary and sad to know this guy could hurt a copper just by being a politician first and a cop last. It's not just the bad guys we have to worry about, it's bosses too now.
Wow gary, u just lost all of my support. You sir have no clue what the hell you are doing, this is a stand up excellent Officer, unlike like urself he is a man among men. Fu go back to the east coast if theyll have you and tune ur wife up there we dont need your shit, asshole.
How can anybody get a fair trial in this town?
What's Tiny Dancer's favorite saying ? "Never let a crisis go to waste ?
He just received "McGoof's" help in creating one.
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
10/24/2011 02:48:00 AM
Not at all. It's part of the proud tradition of the CPD. Most of these oily, unwashed, hairy-backed supervisors would be celibate otherwise.
Not a party directly affected, but can some one chime in:
Can we sue this guy? Or gag him or censure him?
Seems like his big fucking mouth is a detriment to my income.
indefensible behavior
Like getting drunk and shooting out street lights.
Getting arrested for chest pumping the cop who wrote your daughter a ticket.
Hmm or how about domestic violence?
Niles Il Father Nagel Party?
Typical "do as I say, not as I do" leadership
McGoof should be the very last person to pass judgement on a police officer's actions,given his past & present behavior.McCarthy gets drunk on St Patrick's Day in NYC. He shoots out some streetlights.Investigation gets shitcanned by NYPD boss who is friends with McCarthy. The Baby Mama's dramas in NYC & NJ. The domestic batteries in Niles & Chicago. This goofball is not a professional police officer/executive. Just a narcissistic sociopath with a gun. He is going to get himself in a situation that Rahm wont be able to cover up.
I have watched the video several times and cannot see this officer shoot the offender three times in the back. A half ass cook county public defender can establish reasonable doubt with a cook county jury. Reasonable doubt means not guilty! Sue the fuck out of this New Yawk fucking prick for defaming you in the media!
Finally to you young officers stuck working the ghetto due to seniority, STOP INTERACTING WITH THESES FUCKING ANIMALS!!!! Only handle to radio assignments and back up fellow officers. Fuck the citizens, commanders, alderman, mayor, and most of all McTool! Thats means no traffic stops, street stops, foot chases, etc... and you wont find youreself in this cituation. All these aforementioned will not have your back and throw you under the bus for the advancement of their careers!!!!!
Switch industries in your mind for a minute.
Imagine for a moment the CEO of a large accounting firm telling a national media source that one of his accountants shanked some math for a major audit.
Or a chief of surgery laying blame on a doctor before the investigation is complete.
Never would happen. Never.
What the hell is wrong with this guy?? Was he drunk or something?
Wasn't McStake here before the 3d shooting ?
I found out Shields says plenty, problem is he gets ZERO coverage in the news. McCarthey is setting himself against the police, too bad, he just got here. I thought Jody had a big mouth, this guy is like a dumb drunk brawler
I have been in three shootings in my career. They were many years ago and due to luck and good police work myself and my partners always went home while the bad guys pushed up dirt. Those were during the times where at least the public and our bosses gave us the benefit of the doubt. I n ow have a job where I am still on the street quite a bit. Not as much as I used to be but I respond to jobs and wear a uniform. I know it could happen again in a split second. Now I have to worry that our New York boss will run around saying I should not have been on the street if I have a fourth incident even though over twenty years have passed. Guess all his claims of having been the police must be bullshit or he would know just how stupid his comments sound to anyone that has actually done the job.
Charlie McCarthy's on his way to the Triple Crown- NO COMPETENCE, NO SELF-CONTROL, hence NO CONFIDENCE
Nothing wrong with shooting, as long as the right people get shot.
Anonymous said...
He is right. The department should have a mechanism to monitor people who are in multiple shootings and other stressful situations. It probably would have saved this poor kid some prison time. Without letting too much out of the bag, you don't have enough information on this situation. But I do agree that Supt. Situation should STFU during an ongoing investigation.
10/24/2011 01:07:00 AM
He had no right to make prejudicial comments in the public. He will bias any investigation and sink the officer's chances in court. Just like JFLED with Cozzi. What is it with exempts? Why do they fuck with the street coppers and not show any respect or even basic discretion?
vote no
any supt that closes a beach because it's Hot thinks the citizens of chicago are soft
mcgruff allows private citizen shortshanks & wife to keep police bodyguards making sgt pay while we pound the beat in 1 man cars with cars down on the 1st watch
no confidence rahms our supt
new york new york
Rhamulus and his spin doctors are behind mcpuppet's statements. "wag the dog time" chicago version. Remember the CPD knows the hypocracy and imcompatence that govern, either you protect the status quo or you will pay the consequences. These carpetbaggers feel they are doing the mentally challenged chicagoan a favor, hell this populace voted for the village idiot , 6 times. Those that voted for this poor excuse of a human being take note, this asshole makes a living ruling the masses through the media, fluffer jay levine, relishes the role of lead drone. Politics are a game of manipulation, smoke and mirrors, never just and for the good of the entire citizendry. This shooting happened in the early summer, the shooting was ruled justifiable. The geniuses that run this department failed this officer. Being involved in a call, that leads to someone being fired upon because of their own actions is tragic, but its an offenders actions that dictates the outcome. This officer should have been evaluated, allowed his time off, per CPD directives and allowed to go back to work, period. Now they're are convicting this officer through the media. Nevermind IPRA the police board, No, these organizations are chicagoans, to stupid to figure it out. Mc Stupid, yes the appropiate name for this political baffoon, has opened this case up by not only throwing the officer under the bus, but pretty much the rest of the working po's on the street. Fuck the mayors whinning about a legitamate parking violation, the supe's many public indiscretions, this is mcpuppet's declaration of war. SCC, you have hit a nerve. Po's know way to much, dont try to play the political shame game or the master of bullshit will make sure to hang one of you out to dry. Officer safety and livelihood, be damned. Your expendable. Remember fitzgerald and the rest of the G, stopped the tapes short. The FBI is not in business to stop systematic entrenched corruption, ala Daley, Emmanuel or Holder. The FBI is their to provide a semblance of keeping certain laws from disappearing into oblivion, civil rights, Cozzi, comes to mind and RICO, convicting certain italian "businessmen" with names like Gotti, never Daley or Emmanuel. Even though they appear to be the new moran and segal of modern chicago history. Please let that FOP bus to springfield be full this wednesday! mcpuppet has shone his peacock feathers, time to pluck them. Hes here to collect a paycheck, He is playing politics with the lives of every working po out there. He handled this right out of rahm's unimaginative played out playbook. Its time to turn the tide. CPD, has family and friends. The FOP has funds and a president with ambition and intellect. Shields its time to stop hiding behind Camden, put your big boy pants on and assume the leadership you were democratically elected for. Its time for every po to stop talking and start doing. Step up! CPD, come on and show the citizens that we are not what our politicians and the media make this profession to be. Your HUMAN! and all you want is to not be villianized when doing the job no one else has the guts or will to do. You dont go out there to hurt no one, but just "equalize" and make sure the criminals dont take over. You try to make bad into good and keep the good from going bad. Rahm wouldnt know anything about that, his kind usually like choas and disorder only to then pretend to do something about the above, through the public spectacle known as the modern manipulated media. Many folks know rahms many little secrets and he in turn, knows theres. He has been a a dirty little " political whore" for 20 years, which makes him the champ at the bending over, learned over the years by being bent over. Workingclass chicagoans are chumps and little players. He didnt count on the lowly po to try to play in his ballpark. SCC, we love you. Keep batting and hitting his bullshit pitches. Hopefully, the hypnotized populace will finally see what o'bama sent us and vote accordingly.
It seems, to keep the general ghetto shitheads from attacking the police Management they sacrafice or prosecute one of our officers. in this case its GIL. Good luck. waiting to support
Spot On, SCC! You Are EN FUEGO, "Mi Querida Moderador"! Olé! ~ "La Izquierda es el Mejor ||" ~<~;
Why would McCarthy promote CW from 021 to be a gold star. What has she done to deserve it or what are the circumstances?
****REGARDING SPRINGFIELD PENSION RALLY****
There will be a bus leaving from 022 Wednesday morning 0800hrs. You need to call FOP and reserve a seat! Let's get a huge turnout!!
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
10/24/2011 02:48:00 AM
Mind you own business. Jealous?
McCarth plans to promote a certain person from 21 when it close and make her a gold star in the organization, could he be that nutz. Oh no CW is coming to s district as boss
10/24/2011 01:01:00 AM
no way! say it ain't so Joe
Holy Shit! This is absolutely the worst showing of how to be a boss in history. Hey asshat, How the f&*k are you going to convict the copper before the results are in? Did you at least watch the video? Those are some interesting muzzle flashes! I could swear I saw one tumble. Mr McCarthy you are an absolute piece of shit! Take your ass and your ego back to New York. Your services here are no longer wanted. I mean seriously, the officer should not have been there? So this officer works his ass off gets into a couple of shootings which the department says are justified and he's still wrong?
So what's next? Why don't you just take away our guns and have us use tasers?
You are perfect for this pussy ass department. I mean lets be real here, the copper is wrong for shooting an armed gunman? Hmmm? Maybe he shoulda used some verbal judo? Or maybe you should use some common sense and realize the reason the police shootings are up is because of the years and years of softening of the department by the Upper Command Staff. Years and Years of don't put hands on people who want to hurt you, be nice or we will strip you, tell the media you were wrong, and then help the feds to f*&k you over again. I mean grow a pair of balls! How about tell the media to go stick it up their liberal a&&es?
A real boss would have waited until the full verdict was in before throwing this hard working officer under the bus.
One final thing, How the hell does anyone think that those were muzzle flashes? Hey McNutty, ever seen a muzzle flash, they don't go falling end over end. But you know what does? I'll give you a hint...it produces light and every now and again you have to recharge it...Still don't get it? It's a flashlight....oh now you get it...
why would anybody want to be a police officer today?
I just can't believe McGruff opened his yap in front of the Tribune editorial board. What the fuck is going on in this guys head. The officer involved in the shooting also has RIGHTS. If this cop did something wrong please be assured that the FBI will fuck him in a NY minute. This officer will be McGruff's Cozzi. Time for a slowdown boys and girls. Let these uncaring pricks know we have more power than they do. WE can bring this town to a screaching halt.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FOP? WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR UNION STANDING UP FOR THIS OFFICER? The silence coming out of FOP headquarters is DEAFENING! Why are we paying these poeple at the FOP to stay silent? I can't believe the attitude of our own union towards these jagoffs running the city! Can we recall these assholes?
WELCOME TO CHICAGO COMRADES!
So the mayor is so respectful of the laws. "I must enforce the laws" he says in regard to an 11pn curfew.
Dear Rahm,
Enforce the law!!
Okay, fine. Now start busting each and every Illegal Immigrant in this city. Don't give us the "they are only here to create themselves a better life bullshit.
The people arrested in Grant Park are only trying to create themselves a better life. Every thug that snatches and Iphone on the CTA is only trying to create themselves a better life. The jails are full of people only trying to create for themselves a better life!
START DEPORTING THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ENFORCE THE LAWS RAHM.
We have some questions about a half-billion dollar handout to a lil' solar company that went bankrupt and we have some questions about the respect for the laws and transparency that we always hear about. What time can we come down and run some video and ask some questions Rahm?
When are you going to start enforcing the laws on the banking frauds and foreclosure scams Rahm when? Tell us when?
and when the g-8 comes to town, it will be cpd that steps to the plate. is it fair ,no, but the oath we take, we take seriously. unlike certain pols who like to shift attention from their deeds,to look like champions of the public good.
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
Um, NO!
Another sad day in this dept.. It has been slowly sinking, but at a rapid pace most recently.
Does anyone know if we can be denied access to the Capital Building in Springfield if we are carrying? I heard they implemented some pretty stringent security after the gaurd got killed there last year, dont know how true it is.
Serious reply only please, no chest thumping about how the police can carry anywhere, etc.
Our Contract talks haven't begun.
Our Pension debate not looking good.
Now, Gmac is yin-yanging like he's preaching from the pulpit at Ol' Sabina.
Oh the egregiousness!
While he's at it with the open mike, is it about time for praise and endorement of....
Barack- Hussein- Obama '12 ?
mmm-mm-mmm!
GMac .... STEEEEEE-RIKE TWO !
cozzi two!!now lets get out there!!
Prickwinkle wants tax hike on alcohol, boats, cars and parking
Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle wants to raise taxes on alcohol, tobacco products, new cars and boats, and to hike fees at county parking garages, according to the budget blueprint she...
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It's just a number on a spreadsheet to these people.
We have nothing left to give.
Take the money from the public pensions. Cut the number of lawmakers -- we don't need them in the 21st century.
There is too much government.
City, County, State, Federal..WTF Too many layers of krap and corruption.
Look at all this duplication. City police, every county has county police. Then we have State troopers and the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, the Army, Navy, Marines, the Airforce, National Guard, then there's college campus police each with their own little hierarchy of grunts to white shirts. The mall police and private security guards. How much is enough. Each with their own territorial little power bases like the alderman with their wards and ward bosses and precinct captains and do-nothing clout jobs.
Separate infrastructures for them all. Motor pools, different radios and different communications, different firearms, different uniforms, paperwork, computers, PDT's, files, databases many of it duplicates of the others only in different formats.
Everywhere in the private sector we see consolidation. With these politicians it's clout and corruption gone wild.
Where's the president?
He's only in office for two years not four, The other two years are spent wine-ing and dining corporations for campaign contributions. He who raises the most corporate money wins don't you know.
Where's the senators, governors, mayors, alderman? Oh their in Asia, China, Hong Kong and Israel on "trade missions" again. Where's all these jobs from the "free trade" and the sister lake agreements and the sister this and brother that agreements.
There's city council presidents and there's county council presidents, and president of the United States.
All of them. Are we short of money? Well no problem get it from the middle class chumps -- just change this number here on the spreadsheet and everything is fine -- everything is not fine. NO MORE!
We have to vote these lifetime career politicians out of office.
/EndOfRant
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
10/24/2011 02:48:00 AM
NO!!!!
Anonymous said...
These 2 short vids say alot about
our Chicken Noodle Supe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WBKjcyi8Kw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH53CZarUbA
10/24/2011 02:28:00 AM
Yep,
Hatchetman
The Supt does not have are backs,this case is still an ongoing investigation and he's making statements to the press that this officer could face criminal charges.Until this investigation is complete he should not comment and have are backs 100%..
Anonymous said...
McCarthy is a politician. He simply tells people what they want to here. If he's at roll call, he's got our backs. If he's before the Trib editorial board, he's coming down on rogue cops. If he's at St. Sabina's, he's suddenly a civil rights crusader. What he's not, is the police.
10/24/2011 05:54:00 AM
Exactly! And this is why we will never trust him. We are smart enough to learn from the things these puppets say and do and they don't have to show us more than once who they really are. We already know. Mcjersey should have made no comment, but that is not who he is.
Just read the entire article in Sunday Trib.
2 things come to mind:
1: Bleeding heart liberal media writing the article.
2: We need a new Superintendent already. McNutty is a stone cold asshole. Shanks has nothing on this guy as far as throwing people under the bus.
Sadly even if we get rid of McNutty Rahm would just replace him with a like minded individual because regardless of what Rahm says it is his way or the highway.
3 more long years of this shit.
we need to run this fool out of town..please keep on him and put his name out on as many blogs as we can even blog that dont have anything to do with us,lets make him miserable.
where the 500 hundred million dollars obama gave the company that went bankrupt.. i didnt see nothing, remember dont take that free cup of coffee,its all bullshit.
The new reality is not going away. Other police departments have adapted to it quite well. Fighting to go back to the good old days is a loser, especially given as the good old days never really existed.
Not a cop.
10/24/2011 09:17:00 AM
A. I did NOT post that.
B. I don't agree with what he/she posted.
C. They sound like a fucking moron.
---not a cop
indefensible behavior
Like getting drunk and shooting out street lights.
Getting arrested for chest pumping the cop who wrote your daughter a ticket.
Hmm or how about domestic violence?
Niles Il Father Nagel Party?
Typical "do as I say, not as I do" leadership
10/24/2011 11:57:00 AM
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I don't disagree with your points, but, please, the man's name is NANGLE, not nagle, nigel, naigel, whatever. Tom N-A-N-G-L-E.
And for those of you with short memories remember, the Cozzi case was the begining of the end for Weiss.
10/24/2011 10:17:00 AM
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The end of WHAT for Weis? Do you really think, at the end of the day, Jody Weis gives a damn that you didn't like him?
He received pay for his ENTIRE contract term. He bogarted the City into paying him for 'vacation time' he wasn't entitled to, ripping off the citizens of the city of Chicago even further. He parlayed the spot into another cushy, well-paying, do-nothing position that lets him continue to call empty press conferences to showcase his oversized ego.
The beginning of the end? IN YOUR DREAMS. He did not give a rat's patoot about the Cozzi incident. It didn't affect HIS life in the least.
From the article:
Farmer's father said he had been interviewed by an FBI agent about his son's shooting. Sean Macmanus , a spokesman for the FBI in Chicago, confirmed a civil rights investigation is under way in the Englewood area but would not say whether it involved Sierra.
Eek.
Officers involved in police shootings tend to have multiples. This is generally a result of aggressive officers confronting aggressive POS's.
As for the possibility of PTSD:
Over 30 years ago, the big dirty secret was police suicides. It is still way too large of a problem that we need to address. If you see someone having a tough time, pleas reach out and help him/her.
As for job stress, police administrators don't talk about it. Why? Because then they have to deal with it in an intelligent manner. Terry Hilliard started to talk about it then the subject was dropped and sank like a lead balloon.
When an officer is accused of excessive force, could it not be the result of PTSD? Administrators take the easy way out and fire the officer.
I am sure that The Jersey Goof is not a trained clinical psychologist that can accurately diagnose PTSD. I would even bet that the Department doesn't have one that can.
But if any officer, due to stress from shootings (or just the day-in, day-out stress of dealing with the mutts on the street) does have PTSD, PTSD is a recognized disorder and the officer and the union should look into seeing if the officer is eligible for protection under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Which would mean that the officer should get treatment. And if the situation warrants it and he can not be satisfactorily cleared, then he could be eligible for duty disability pension.
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
10/24/2011 02:48:00 AM
No, Lt. J.L., it isn't. Go ahead, pork his brains out.
I cringe every time I see a story like this. It does not matter much if the cop did something wrong or not
++++++
Hey dick, fuck you!
Does it matter when an offender did IT or not, too?
Anonymous said...
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
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Eeeeee gross
Does anyone know if we can be denied access to the Capital Building in Springfield if we are carrying? I heard they implemented some pretty stringent security after the gaurd got killed there last year, dont know how true it is.
Serious reply only please, no chest thumping about how the police can carry anywhere, etc.
Technically, yes, we are banned from carrying. I was there not too long ago and the guard asked me if I was carrying and he told me that if I was, I would have to secure it in a gun locker. I replied that, indeed, I was carrying as I go nowhere without it. He then said that as far as he was concerned, he was fine with it because he said if anything went down, there was another weapon present in the good guys hands. He seemed to be very pro-police and pro-Second Amendment. With that, you never know who is at the guard post. You should go with your weapon and take your chances. At the very least, they'll put it in a locker while you're there.
I don't want or need a boss to have my back when everything looks good. I have to have the confidence that my boss will have my back when, something does not appear that good via the media. I am sick and tired of seeing my brother officers judged and condemmed in these fucking rags. Mr.McCarthy you should be ashamed of yourself. This is how you want to earn our respect! Brothers and Sisters watch each others back and go home safe. Emanual, McCarthy deserve each other, but the city and city workers deserve better. God Bless the CPD
not only has he not got an MD in psychology, if he had, he still hasnt treated the officer Hes an ass Im glad Im retired
McCarth plans to promote a certain person from 21 when it close and make her a gold star in the organization, could he be that nutz. Oh no CW is coming to s district as boss
Either it is her or LH. I can't say which is the lesser of 2 evils.
I don't know how to say this but our current administration does not care one bit what happens to a blue shirt. If you think that our new fearless leader is here to have our backs, you are sadly mistaken. What ever you want to call him, superintendent, Mcgruff, McStupid, it doesn't matter, he is out for looking out for number one, himself. We as officers have to take this job for what it is, a good paying job that provides for our family. Unfortunately sometimes we are forced to defend ourselfs or our brothers to the point of eliminating the local shithead. Without knowing all the facts of what occurred on that night in Englewood with
that officer, I'm glad he pulled the trigger and blasted that asshole or else it could have been him who we would be morning today. Officers need to stop going out of their way
to find the dope and to find pookie with the gun. When are
we going to learn that no one gives a flying fuck about your
stats. This police department is not the same anymore. Go
out answer your calls and go home, if they are going to
shoot at each other, you as the police are not and will not
stop them from doing it. It took me many years on this job
to figure that out, and unfortunately it will take many years
for many other to figure that out as well. As far as McGruff
is concerned, on YouTube you can watch a documentary
that he filmed while he was in NJ, just search his name
and type " brick city " and you will see for yourself. This guy is just building up his resume and can care less about who
you are, who you locked up or what unit your . He will cares when you fuck up that's for sure, that means more camera time for him.
McCarth plans to promote a certain person from 21 when it close and make her a gold star in the organization, could he be that nutz. Oh no CW is coming to s district as boss. Could be LH or Lt MM.
Easier to control the police than it is the criminal. The world upside. Can't keep criminals from multiple shootings and attacks on police, so let's just remove the police from the streets.
Anonymous said...
OT:
Is it against any general orders for a supervisor (Lt) to fraternize with a subordinate on their watch, even if it's of the same sex?
10/24/2011 02:48:00 AM
Not at all. It's part of the proud tradition of the CPD. Most of these oily, unwashed, hairy-backed supervisors would be celibate otherwise.
10/24/2011 11:45:00 AM
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It's the only way they can get "laid" !!!
I've seen it often, sgt takes unsuspecting PO under his wing. Start meeting after work, then secret meets. Calls, texting. Then finally someone sees them. Then lies, lies. Spouse uncovers truth. Divorce!
About time for Jib Jab
how many people were arrested when the illigal alien marched? the g8 is not are enemy as you can see..say by to your pensions. i love what the p.o's at g8 training are shoveling to us,their company men with a easy in side jobs for now you guy will be fucked too. we did take this job but we didnt ask to be screwed.. yes were lucky to have a job but you, mcpuppetand,rahm are way luckier.
this guy from new york is a real jaggyballs!
if a cop screw up he go to jail for years but chicago politician fuck up the get bailed out.there a long line of corrupt politicians: daley,stroger,madigan,corothers,jackson,rahm and obama is just the some of your dirty thief running the city to ruins and now the country,obama wheres did that 500 million dollars go? where did the money from the police pension go,daley?
but remember the g-8 protester are gonna destroy the city. lol
get ready for the g-8. i bet there is way more illigal aliens costing billion in dollars in chicago with the crimes they committ, welfare,education and medical. but remember the g-8 is bad cause they know the politician are in bed with big business. oh i forgot the illigals do the jobs that the unemployed in illinois dont want.
LETS SEND THIS JAGOFF PACKING BACK TO JERSEY OR NY.
He could not fill the shoes of Chief Wiggum on the simpsons.
Signed.
Life member of NRA
Does this guy have any common fucking sense?
You'd think after his church sermon he'd had someone tell him to think before he speaks.
In over 40 years of watching Superintendents comment on police shootings of all sorts I've never saw one hang out an officer the way he just did.
He actually said he has our backs?What a lying fucking joke of a man he truly is.
CW still has a deal. She gets promoted to the highest rank regardless of administration. She also resides in Cc.Hills
No way can she lives in Country Club Hills, to high profile. IAD would have found out or someone would have dropped a dime on her by now.
McCarthy is the first high level city official to feel the wrath of Rahm.
Just before McCarthy went to a dinner for the National Chiefs of Police he got a major in person ass reaming from Tiny Dancer. He had already irked Rahm with his constant careless talk in front of the media and his never ending love of being in front of the camera.
Rahm was informed by a partner at a big downtown firm currently contracted for a lawsuit involving numerous 8th District police that the Superintendent is now a defense witness in any and all lawsuits involving this officer. The Superintendent is an expert in Police Management and he has now publicly stated that the city was negligent. Rahm was told that these comments virtually guarantee an eight figure settlement on the Farmer lawsuit.
The anger from Rahm's advisors is so real that rumors around City Hall are that McCarthy could be fired before 2012. The thinking is Rahm will wait for one thing to go wrong, one scandal, one bad car chase, one anything, and he will drop the hammer on McCarthy.
First, you can guarantee that McCarthy will do absolutely no more press conferences. City Hall is sending a new spokesman to handle police affairs who will be installed by the end of this week. The McCarthy media tour is over.
Second, you can expect McCarthy to tone down his Compstat beatdowns. His only friend in Chicago just called him out on the carpet and basically told him he fucked up and if he fucks up again he's gone. Aldermen had already begun beating the drums that McCarthy is an asshole who doesn't treat them or their cronies with the respect they deserve.
The general consensus is that McCarthy better start looking for a new police department to screw up.
2130
Cw might be going to four as the xo.
do as I say Do NOTHING then remember G8 NATO Fuk Jersey Shore
Cozi says it all
NYPD Pepper sprayer gets 3 days vacation without pay/ Here In Chicago would be Fired, just sayin
follow only direct orders during the coming riots. conform them over the air protect yourself you will be middled and suspended. Let Sgts ans above earn their clouted $$$$
Dear Gold Star (Insert Name)
You demand activity, you demand coverage in a box, you have the nerve to blame us when someone gets shot in a location that has attracted violence for decades, BUT, you sit back and lick the boot of men who are ready to sacrifice the unclouted for brownie points with the public. You scream when a good arrest is made outside some imaginary boundary even though most hard working people live ouside that box. BUT, you were not there when my fellow officer went to jail when the previous administration created a new layer of discipline, you were not there when my fellow officers were hit with punitive damages, you were not there when a felon gets let go for shooting police officers, you will not be there when you get promoted of our work and leave uis in the ghetto, and you definitely wont be there when Rahm goas after us. So keep drinking the Kool Aid, thinking you are leading the men and women of this department because you are not. We do not work because of you, but in spite of you, because it is what we do. So continue patting your own back, because behind it, we all laugh. Soory for the rant, stay safe.
He can't put the officer on desk duty. The mayor wants all able bodied officers on the street.
10/24/2011 08:00:00 AM
Rahm needs to look where I work. There's 5, count em 5, full duty officers working in the Commander's or Admin office. This is for 1 district not an area. 3 of those 5 have 10 years or less on the job. Sickening.
Sadly if you look closely there are not many constitutional rights left. The so called "Patriot Act" took most of them away. TSA sticking hands down your pants at the airport so you can fly, downloading data from your laptop and giving you hard time for having a few sliver coins in your bag are perfect examples of the constitutional rights being violated on daily basis. McTool is here to enforce the kill of our constitution and we need to stand up for our rights. All the best to the officer.
10/24/2011 08:55:00 AM
No. But it is against the law to be a douche bag. Lock yourself up.
OT: So percwinkle wants jurors to pay for parking while making $21.00 a day? F*** civic duty. I'll never serve on a jury again, I can't afford to!
GS, You're a nice guy with a good heart, and a good officer, and I wish you lots of luck. None of us were there but we believe you over the haters, thugs, poverty sympathizers and money-mongering scum with JD degrees. Hopefully your lawyers get the right experts to defend you.
Also, for crying out loud, except for your lawyers, don't talk about this to anyone, especially the media. You're too nice and they suckered you into making a few quotes for their trash which is only meant to harm you.
Be safe. Be strong. And Be Silent.
OT: good call by the A/1 dick who told the paper car on the 73 year old beaten in bridgeport to make it a simple battery. Just from the radio traffic anyone with half a brain could tell she wasn't gonna make it. What a joke this department is.
Never ever second guess another coppers shooting when you weren't there. Ever!! That being said, this isn't this coppers 1st dance and hopefully he does his own paper. I do know that if I were in his shoes I would be standing tall and centered on the superintendents doorway in the morning to find out what his problem is with me. A statement like that makes it personal no matter what your rank is.
Guys we can't have this us against them that's what the mayor wants this seems a little to convience , he wants the public to hate us , we can't feed into everyone's a low life we won't win that fight we need every hard working citizen to be behind us , and by attacking law abiding citizens who have never committed a crime in there life's right to voice their opinion or protest the billionaires make us look like assholes. We have to show them the flash mobs , and convicted felons that carry a gun and those who catch u outside your garage and take what you go to work at their 9 to 5 is bullshit . Tell them that the mayors numbers is bullshit and that it's bad out here and those crime numbers don't show the real dangers and that death investigation or homicides. We got to fight like they fight not allow them to paint us as some greedy cops that think there better than the average person . We are in Chicago guys not in Iowa . We got to play mr mayors game.
10/24/2011 11:06:00 AM
Couldn't say it better myself. Great encouraging words
Political theater and mind games/mind control over CPD. Tell me these two weren't looking for another scenario to "shame" another cop here. Tossing sound-bite morsels to media like chum to sharks? It's a game the Mayor and Supe love to play. So what if the players have changed, the game stays the same. Usually when they cause a lot of splashing over here, it's to cover up some bs they're pulling over there. So what is it they don't want media and the rest of CPD to know at the moment?
Anonymous said...
God, how I long for some of the old school officers who were on the job when I came on in '87. They would have told half these jags to go fuck themselves, then leave them standing there with their mouths open.
Where are you Roger Wilson, et al?
10/24/2011 07:20:00 AM
Old School.
The Best School
Class of 84
Cynthia W. is the BEST boss the CPD has ever or will ever have!! And she gets to live in CC hills cause she's sooooo good
I read it and I immediately thought this guy ought to keep his big mouth shut, especially if it's under investigation.....let's not be too biased in the media..dumb.
Which would mean that the officer should get treatment. And if the situation warrants it and he can not be satisfactorily cleared, then he could be eligible for duty disability pension.
Well said 5:20 PM.
This needs to be addressed at contract time! The job has lots of responsibility and liability. It's a tested position with lots of training. I know I did not go see my alderman for the job. I worked hard and did my job but made many sacrafices over the years. Missed many holidays, birthdays, family events, shit hours and in the end will probably die a few years sooner than the average 9-5 Mon - Fri guy. All this to make a little more for family (than other occupations) and a modest comfortable life after I retire. By the grace of God I have not had to take another life which I am trained to do if necessary. No matter how much training we have we are not robots and every police officer is wired differently. I have seen things on this job that most people only see in movies. I think PTSD disability needs to be addressed and to maintain our benefits that we get for a shorter life expendency.
Why doesn't this guy STFU?
Please go back to NY.
Which would mean that the officer should get treatment. And if the situation warrants it and he can not be satisfactorily cleared, then he could be eligible for duty disability pension.
Well said 5:20 PM.
This needs to be addressed at contract time! The job has lots of responsibility and liability. It's a tested position with lots of training. I know I did not go see my alderman for the job. I worked hard and did my job but made many sacrafices over the years. Missed many holidays, birthdays, family events, shit hours and in the end will probably die a few years sooner than the average 9-5 Mon - Fri guy. All this to make a little more for family (than other occupations) and a modest comfortable life after I retire. By the grace of God I have not had to take another life which I am trained to do if necessary. No matter how much training we have we are not robots and every police officer is wired differently. I have seen things on this job that most people only see in movies. I think PTSD disability needs to be addressed and to maintain our benefits that we get for a shorter life expendency.
No way can she lives in Country Club Hills, to high profile. IAD would have found out or someone would have dropped a dime on her by now.
10/24/2011 09:05:00 PM
Your right she can't lives there but she can live there, why you ask because she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar along with a few other P.O.'s back in the day. The subtle difference is she snitched and became an informant for the FBI and took down other P.O.'s, so what did they do they rewarded her and promoted her.
I imagine the reason she gets to live outside the city is because she received death threats.
Are you sure this happened? Because I see no outrage on the FOP website.
Superintendant,
A little basic criticism.
When an incident occurs, Do Not jump to conclusions, just tell the media that the incident is under investigation & STFY
This incident will totally vindicate the officer, however, your decision to crucify him in the press will stay with & hurt this officer throughout his career regardless his being innocent. Font fall into the trap set by attention seeking scum- (Politicians, reverands, media).
Remember, you threw a few stones in your career in NYPD & he who lives in a glass house, should not throw stones.
I & many others had hopes that you were going to be a positive change to the CPD, however, unless you make some positive moves, you will be joining Jody in the lore if CPD.
Gotta Run!
Think before you speak!
Judge blocks Fla.'s new welfare drug testing law
http://news.yahoo.com/judge-blocks-fla-welfare-drug-testing-law-192910417.html
YOU have to waive your rights for this job. THEY have a right to collect welfare.
Society continues to crumble.
Someones got to thin the herd with these odds.
a bad guy on the ground with a gun can get a better shot off than a bad guy standing up, trying to dodge a coppers shot. If I have to shoot, I'll empty my weapon.
Thanks McPussy.
Who shall lead us in this endeavor?
I, for one, shall follow wholeheartedly.
No way can she lives in Country Club Hills, to high profile. IAD would have found out or someone would have dropped a dime on her by now.
10/24/2011 09:05:00 PM
She supposedly has PERMISSION, due to her working undercover, TWENTY-NINE YEARS AGO, against her coworkers in the 002nd district.
Like it matters where she lives, if someone chooses to retaliate (three decades later)? What a crock. She has played the 'oh, poor me' card far too long.
You still want to hang out at CPD, Cynthia? Then, how about you abide by the rules? Or are they only for other people?
You've seen it often or you've done it often?
SCC, I'd withhold the bashing a bit. The ENTIRE video shows cause for concern. I'll never second guess an officer's fear for his own safety, but...something is amiss, or it at least appears that way. This guy is going to end up in some serious legal trouble. The first volley fire is explainable. The second? I'm all ears...
McBigMouth should not have commented. He just put several more millions into Loevy's pockets by admitting fault. Well done, I bet New York is really looking forward to your reign in a few years. I said it before,by the time this clown leaves, we'll be wishing J-fraud stuck around!
Anonymous said...
I've seen it often, sgt takes unsuspecting PO under his wing. Start meeting after work, then secret meets. Calls, texting. Then finally someone sees them. Then lies, lies. Spouse uncovers truth. Divorce!
10/24/2011 07:37:00 PM
Hey! Quit following me!!!!
signed, Hairy Backed Sgt.
You show up at our football games , rah rah and try to be one of us, you are not! You have torn down this dept. And did nothing so far for the working officer. For shame.
Like a politician it appears you were just bought and paid for. Enjoy your money, karma gets us all eventually.
a march on city hall makes more sense.
STRETCH THE DOWNTOWN SECURITY FROM THE PARK TO CITY HALL.
NATIONAL PRESS.
SHOT FROM THE HELICOPTER SHOW TO THE CITY OF US WALKING AROUND CITY HALL.
HELL CALL THE TEACHER AND BUS DRIVERS TOO!
RAHM IS USING THE DWEEBS IN DOWNSTATE TO SCREW US GO RIGHT TO THE SOURCE NOT MARCH ON THE DWEEB.
OT: So percwinkle wants jurors to pay for parking while making $21.00 a day? F*** civic duty. I'll never serve on a jury again, I can't afford to!
10/24/2011 10:21:00 PM
Jurors? What about employees? They just keep ramming us up the ass. But it's going to backfire. All these little Occupy This and Occupy That groups aren't the beginning of a new Tea Party, it's the beginning of a revolution and nobody is paying attention. Funny, but college students and young people pick up on shit sooner than the rest of us, and while they may not have articulated why they are out there, they hear the drumbeats. Do the stupid politicians. Uh, hello Greece?
Anonymous said...
No way can she lives in Country Club Hills, to high profile. IAD would have found out or someone would have dropped a dime on her by now.
10/24/2011 09:05:00 PM
She supposedly has PERMISSION, due to her working undercover, TWENTY-NINE YEARS AGO, against her coworkers in the 002nd district.
Like it matters where she lives, if someone chooses to retaliate (three decades later)? What a crock. She has played the 'oh, poor me' card far too long.
You still want to hang out at CPD, Cynthia? Then, how about you abide by the rules? Or are they only for other people?
10/25/2011 12:22:00 AM
Let me address this for you two so you do not sound so unintelligent.
CW lives in a house in 5. Near a park. Near 120th and the Ivy league streets Without going into giving out any more information on her home, or any other Cops house, this I know, is fact.
I worked that Beat and have seen her come and go. Ask any cop in 5, they know.
You're welcome for the truth.
And I dislike her like almost any working cop.
I imagine the reason she gets to live outside the city is because she received death threats.
10/24/2011 11:29:00 PM
You realize that is an urban myth, right?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No way can she lives in Country Club Hills, to high profile. IAD would have found out or someone would have dropped a dime on her by now.
10/24/2011 09:05:00 PM
Your right she can't lives there but she can live there, why you ask because she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar along with a few other P.O.'s back in the day. The subtle difference is she snitched and became an informant for the FBI and took down other P.O.'s, so what did they do they rewarded her and promoted her.
I imagine the reason she gets to live outside the city is because she received death threats.
10/24/2011 11:29:00 PM
And livnig outside the city would protect her from these death threats how exactly??
Adios. Dude,
If you have a problem get help. There is nothing wrong with taking a month or two off or whatever it takes to get your head on straight.
There are plenty of sources of help to look to. There is nothing unmanly or cowardly about getting the help you need.
I imagine the reason she gets to live outside the city is because she received death threats.
10/24/2011 11:29:00 PM
You realize that is an urban myth, right?
10/25/2011 09:02:00 AM
Did she receive death threats from the same imaginary offender that "threatened" Ald. Ed Burke nearly 30 years ago? Maybe she needs 24/7 police bodyguard/errand boy protection too.
David Snethen said...
Never ever second guess another coppers shooting when you weren't there. Ever!! That being said, this isn't this coppers 1st dance and hopefully he does his own paper. I do know that if I were in his shoes I would be standing tall and centered on the superintendents doorway in the morning to find out what his problem is with me. A statement like that makes it personal no matter what your rank is.
10/24/2011 10:35:00 PM
That's you, Dave. Last time I checked, there arent too many cops like you left on this Dept. Which is why this department is in such a shambles.
David Snethen said...
Never ever second guess another coppers shooting when you weren't there. Ever!! That being said, this isn't this coppers 1st dance and hopefully he does his own paper. I do know that if I were in his shoes I would be standing tall and centered on the superintendents doorway in the morning to find out what his problem is with me. A statement like that makes it personal no matter what your rank is.
10/24/2011 10:35:00 PM
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Hoo-Rahhhhh !! You Tell em Sarge !!!!!!!!!
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