More Mass Arrests
Good and bad things at Saturday's downtown arrests. A couple of good things gleaned from e-mails, comments and observations:
- Mass arrest kits seemed to be in plentiful supply;
- Sheriff buses on scene instead of using CTA buses;
- Holding those who were in violation of their Bail Bond restrictions from last week.
There was still a lot to be desired though:
- Again, why are we waiting until 0100 AM to arrest people? The park closes at what? 1100? One announcement and then arrests. Pretty straightforward, it sends the message we mean business, and establishes precedent for future events like G-8 and NATO.
- Provide the protesters with an out - an "escape route." Once we start arresting people, the people wavering will realize they really don't want to spend a night in jail and they'll leave. This frees up manpower for the dedicated protesters and empties the park anyway. Rahm obviously doesn't want arrests because then he becomes the focal point. We ended up doing 40 fewer arrests this time. Anyone want to bet there's even less next week?
- One working printer in 001? For processing 130 arrests? Of this doesn't say worlds about the state of this Department, we don't know what does. How about either getting us the equipment we need or going to a truly paperless Department as we were promised 20 years ago?
And this last point is just insane. We didn't witness this, but it appeared a few times in the comment sections:
- Wow! What a clusterfuck here at Grant Park. The Gold Stars decided to start arresting protesters at 0100 hrs after warning them at 2300 hrs. Then two Stars Stars were approaching the protesters, one at a time and politely asked them if they were sure that they wanted to go to jail. Then 2 PO's locked them up, escorted them by a Cook County prisoner bus, where they waited in line for 15-20 minutes! It has been 3 hours and they are still making arrest! There were less then 100 people! These bosses are so fucked up, it's ridiculous! This is totally humiliating and shameful, we are in trouble come May with these brainiacs!
Just a thought, but that isn't going to work in May 2012. We don't have nearly enough Deputy Chiefs or Assistant Superintendents or whatever they're called now to ask every single rioter if they wish to be arrested while the protesters are busy burning garbage cans, breaking windows and flipping over cars.
Labels: department issues, events
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Here is what we are up against.
http://www.youtube.com/user/redheadjbooten?blend=21&ob=5#p/u/1/AqujLKNrV3c
Who cares don't show up and they will get tired and go home.
OT: It was mentioned earlier that the line "if it saves one child..." when it comes to BULLSHIT was going to come out soon. PRESTO!
Chicago Public Schools CEO Jean-Claude Brizard said he supports the proposal.
“You know, when you look at the statistics and you know what it does for the kids, if this saves one life – one life, one family’s pain – it’s worth it,” Brizard said.
WOW SSDD
Its true about the printers in 001. The one in lock up has been broken for over a year now. On top of that, half of the computers are broken. On the upside though they are fixing the crumbling walls in the WC's office. That's to be expected though in such an old building....
I'll wager Shortshanks is laughing his ass off right now. They know, they knew stuff like this was coming soon.
This is getting crazy, are numbers are going down and theirs are going up.
SCC said: Just a thought, but that isn't going to work in May 2012. We don't have nearly enough Deputy Chiefs or Assistant Superintendents or whatever they're called now to ask every single rioter if they wish to be arrested while the protesters are busy burning garbage cans, breaking windows and flipping over cars.
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Consider it a culling of the herd, SCC. Any 'boss' who tries this cute-sy move during NatoGate will be out of the mix - recuperating from their injuries - for months or years to come. Natural selection at work.
FM 101.1 news played the "why would you arrest us we're fighting for your pensions" chant while they talked about Occupy Chicago protest
Dude, your blog just ROCKS, but the park closing at 1100 hours? Not bloodly likely. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you meant 2300 hours. Just sayin'
Remington Raider
Another point of view over the protests.
What exactly are they protesting?
Watch Afterburner: Three and a half days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOrT0OcHh0
We don't have nearly enough Deputy Chiefs or Assistant Superintendents or whatever they're called now to ask every single rioter if they wish to be arrested while the protesters are busy burning garbage cans, breaking windows and flipping over cars.
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Bg difference in how peaceful protesters and non-peaceful protesers should be treated.
Remington Raider
10/24/2011 01:56:00 AM
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Ah, another Marine Clerk/Typist! I told my son about Remington Raiders(He's been a Marine for a little over a year now) and he didn't know what I was talking about. One of my old bosses was a Raider.
Maybe they can take the 10 printer from 017, they aren't using it now. I don't know what they'll do when they realize it was a mistake to close the lockup. But hey, the geniuses are running things.
When Rahm sees how much OT is being paid out for the last 2 weekends maybe he will give the order for arrest at 23:01 like it should be.
I say we should get the word out that we, the police, are not going to do shit to the protesters unless they throw shit at us. That goes double for G8. The city doesn't give a shit about property crimes, so let them break windows, loot, whatever.
Let anarchy rule! It's what the libtards want, and you won't spend the next 2 years meeting with the corp counsel and then being sued civilly or smacked with punitive damages.
Me, I'll be standing there with my arms crossed, an audience member at the circus.
These clowns should be charged with Criminal Trespass To Land (state charge) ,instead of the city ordinace. Then when these slackers get arrested again, for playing games in the park there would be a conditions of bail bond charge added. I would imagine sitting in a bullpen at county jail with the best dregs of society Cook County has to offer would stop these idiots from wasting police resources. Then when the good old G-8 arrives in May, the department should get in touch with the CCSAO and discuss charging any anachists with FELONY mob action ,if appropriate. Again these college aged kids would probably shit their pants when they arrive in the receiving room of Cook County Jail. Time to stop playing games with these people. We are the police ,right???
nobody on this job trusts anyone anymore and can you blame them--- our supercop from new york just flame roasted a copper from 007 and ate him for dinner--- the hesitation to act when faced with a dangerous situation is what will get guys killed or injured--- the hesitation is there because of a lack of trust between patrol officers and investigatory agencies(ipra, iad, cook county asa)--- nobody wants to be the next guy burned for doing their job....
I am pretty sire the whole "Do you want to leave or be arrested?" was the out you asked about. This beat the hell out of 'arrest them all' and the stupidity that ensued on LSD.
We could use more equipment, but we have set the precedent for G-8. THIS AINT NEW YORK. WE WILL LOCK YOUR ASS UP! How's that working for the New Yorkers? Weeks of trash and stupidity. Keep it up boys and girls.
The new Starz TV series 1st episode was great. I look forward to seeing more!
Kelsey Grammer plays Chicago 'Boss' on TV
"In the series, Kane rallies against his opponents while battling a degenerative neurological condition that he is trying to keep from hitting the headlines.
"We meet a man who's basically king," the actor said. "He's been elected king but he looks at Chicago as his ... property, basically, and the people of Chicago as his subjects but also, he has a loving, caretaker nature about it. But he is willing to hold onto power by any means necessary. He is given some very bad news right up front in the show and suddenly his legacy has a time limit on it."
Load up on ammo, and weapons, teach your Loved ones how to shoot a shotgun, and keep your homes safe. Let the assholes burn the city down, only help other officers if they are in need. Let all these idiots harm each other and let the nation see how crappy it is here and our lack of leadership on all levels.
sick the WILDING'S on the protesters
McNo-Nuts had better assure the Gold Stars of theri positions by May. Right now every Gold Star is afraid of losing their spot, especially those tied to DownTown Ernie. And as long as the bosses are afraid, don't expect subordinates to make executive descions.
Let them Camp call REI and other camping suppliers and have them demonstrate their new products for a fee.
The officers waited until 1:00 A.M. in order to get the O K from our dumb ass mayor. Don't you know that the police brass can't act without his authority.
Other towns around the country have suspended rules for protestors. Letting these folks stay in Grant Park is not going to harm any one. Racoon Eyes is just taking care of the folks who made him rich. Banks and corporations want this protest to go away. It is bad for business.
So looking forward to one lone held over getting out of court at the 5th Distict this afternoon. Toto, you aren't in Kansas any more.
I think its great . My team starts at 4 pm and we are making a fortune in overtime on these Sat.s
Man all these late saturday nights at work are really cutting into my occupy the tavern movement
once on ethe jail bus, I think someone needs to start passing out bars of soap.
one bar of dial to every trust fund neo-hippy retard.
Did any one notice the dress hats worn with cargo pants by the suck asses. Hey guys that not proper uniform. Just because you want to suck up to the bosses.
" One of the holding cells with about 30 men had no working sink. Their requests were ignored for 5 to 6 hours....An epileptic girl needed her meds. We yelled for an hour before anyone came and then they ignored for another hour....We yelled for about sixteen hours to make a phonecall before they finally let some of us...This protester asked different police officers 86 times politely to make a phone call. Ignored all night..... "We were given no food until noon today after yelling for hours they gave us a bologna sandwich.....Most of those of us who were in jail were not even allowed a phone call even though we asked for one repeatedly.....Two of the people who did get a phonecall report that the bondsmen were playing videogames instead of working on our paperwork....None of the men were given toilet paper for the past twenty hours. "
Thank you. Keep arresting these idiots and fighting crime.
Thanks!
please can we get rid of rahm for the sake of the children of chicago.
I was pretty confused about what is going on with the protesters until this lady was interviewed and made a very detailed acccount of just what is they want, This really it crystal clear what they want. This woman must be an example of what our public education system is turning out. very eloquent in her speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ
why are we arresting these people?rahm says he supports them. we should make it clear rahm is the one ordering their arrest and is nothing but a typical chicago politician a filthy rat.
" One of the holding cells with about 30 men had no working sink. Their requests were ignored for 5 to 6 hours....An epileptic girl needed her meds. We yelled for an hour before anyone came and then they ignored for another hour....We yelled for about sixteen hours to make a phonecall before they finally let some of us...This protester asked different police officers 86 times politely to make a phone call. Ignored all night..... "We were given no food until noon today after yelling for hours they gave us a bologna sandwich.....Most of those of us who were in jail were not even allowed a phone call even though we asked for one repeatedly.....Two of the people who did get a phonecall report that the bondsmen were playing videogames instead of working on our paperwork....None of the men were given toilet paper for the past twenty hours. "
10/24/2011 03:36:00 PM
Um, so you elected to be arrested along with a huge amount of other people and you expected to go to a country club, be fed your choice of filet or perhaps a lovely salmon, you know better than the bondsmen (we don't have any of those, by the way) what their job requires and you expected your release to be expedited according to your timetable, not the system's.
Welcome to the real world. It's a bitch, isn't it.
And tell the epileptic girl we aren't physicians and aren't allowed to administer medication or to hand it over to you. If she wants to voluntarily get herself arrested, she should think of the implications of her actions before she does so.
The only way someone gets meds is to be hauled to the hospital to be seen by a medical practitioner, which becomes logistically difficult, if not impossible, in a mass arrest situation.
Once they wait in the hospital until hospital staff can see them, only then is it determined IF she gets meds, WHAT meds she gets and WHEN she gets them. And then she goes back to lockup. And the next time she's due for meds, she goes through the same process again. And then she goes back to the lockup. But, that was her choice, and if she chooses to do so again, she will face the same reality.
New York cops defy order to arrest hundreds of ‘Occupy Albany’ protesters
Occupy Albany protesters in New York’s capital city received an unexpected ally over the week: The state and local authorities.
According to the Albany Times Union, New York state troopers and Albany police did not adhere to a curfew crackdown on protesters urged by Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) and Albany mayor Gerald Jennings.
Mass arrests seemed to be in the cards once Jennings directed officers to enforce the curfew on roughly 700 protesters occupying the city owned park. But as state police joined the local cops, protesters moved past the property line dividing city and state land.
With protesters acting peacefully, local and state police agreed that low level arrests could cause a riot, so they decided instead to defy Cuomo and Jennings.
“We don’t have those resources, and these people were not causing trouble,” a state official said. “The bottom line is the police know policing, not the governor and not the mayor.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/24/new-york-cops-defy-order-to-arrest-hundreds-of-occupy-protesters/
When Rahm sees how much OT is being paid out for the last 2 weekends maybe he will give the order for arrest at 23:01 like it should be.
10/24/2011 07:35:00 AM
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How about NO overtime?
How about Rahm swallowing his pride and accepting the fact that these are peaceful US CITIZENS protestors that are exercising their rights to free speech and assemble as guaranteed under the US CONSTITUTION.
It is no different that our rights to bear firearms.
Given the cities financial situation it's the prudent thing to do. The taxpayers should not pay for this silliness to boost someones ego.
OT: It was mentioned earlier that the line "if it saves one child..." when it comes to BULLSHIT was going to come out soon. PRESTO!
Chicago Public Schools CEO Jean-Claude Brizard said he supports the proposal.
“You know, when you look at the statistics and you know what it does for the kids, if this saves one life – one life, one family’s pain – it’s worth it,” Brizard said.
WOW SSDD
10/24/2011 12:09:00 AM
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Thank you!! That was me.
I think that it's pretty obvious that these politicians get a Microsoft Word template with their positions that is entitled "Standard Words and Phrases Used to Win the Hearts and Minds of the People"
The saving the children one is right there at the number one spot.
The city believes that camera's are the answer to everything. So just put more cameras in at Grant Park and cut out the bullshit waste of manpower and tax dollars.
We know you would love to not let this crisis go to waste by letting the opportunity to award that clouted camera outfit more money anyway.
I say we should get the word out that we, the police, are not going to do shit to the protesters unless they throw shit at us. That goes double for G8. The city doesn't give a shit about property crimes, so let them break windows, loot, whatever.
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The Albany NY officers, State and local, told both the mayor AND the governor we don't have the manpower and these people are peaceful... are you TRYING to create a riot? In not so many words
New York cops defy order to arrest hundreds of ‘Occupy Albany’ protesters
We are playing right into missing fingers hands , let us do his dirty work he keeps his hands clean while we collect more police haters , wake up they are not the enemy , every week we add more folks to our list it's one thing to have shit heads hate us who cares . You think mr mayor is gonna support us when we get the civil-rights violations not a chance in hell. Coppers wake up play the game like mr mayor those folks are harmless . And some of their asses have a point.
Watched the Bears Game Sunday, there was a Levi's commercial featuring some twit taunting the police (line) during what appeared to be 'staged' Occupy Something protest or a depicted London Riot clash.
What a message they chose to portrait their denim.
I'm sure ol' Levi Strauss wouldn't have wanted it that way.
State and local police in Albany, New York are siding with the protesters and against the Dem Gov. Cuomo trying to shut them down.
At the Capitol, in anticipation of possibly dozens of arrests, a State Police civil disturbance unit was quietly activated, according to officials briefed on the matter but not authorized to comment publicly. But as the curfew neared, the group of protesters estimated at several hundred moved across an invisible line in the park from state land onto city property.
"We were ready to make arrests if needed, but these people complied with our orders," a State Police official said. However, he added that State Police supported the defiant posture of Albany police leaders to hold off making arrests for the low-level offense of trespassing, in part because of concern it could incite a riot or draw thousands of protesters in a backlash that could endanger police and the public.
"We don't have those resources, and these people were not causing trouble," the official said. "The bottom line is the police know policing, not the governor and not the mayor."
Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Under-pressure-to-make-arrests-police-and-2232934.php#ixzz1bkSi5200
this is another chance to make police look bad. why dont you send the g-8 trainer to arrest them they are highly trained.lol
The new nice police. And its the way society wants it. Little Johnny didn't mean to harm anyone. So why are you police being so mean?
Or it's OK to be here illegally. Or we know you need to be "helped" not jailed.
This is what happens when society goes "soft" on crime...and doesn't back the police actions.
Police stop arresting. Judges and juries don't convict. Prosecutors won't prosecute. And the media and politicians and leaders voice their "opinions" on things they don't know about. It's a damn shame.
No arrests til 0035hrs. Was that when Rahm gave the ok to make an arrest , but 1st ask pretty please to leave . Take the suburban police test . Chicago has turned from ass kickers to wimps.
" One of the holding cells with about 30 men had no working sink. Their requests were ignored for 5 to 6 hours....An epileptic girl needed her meds. We yelled for an hour before anyone came and then they ignored for another hour....We yelled for about sixteen hours to make a phonecall before they finally let some of us...This protester asked different police officers 86 times politely to make a phone call. Ignored all night..... "We were given no food until noon today after yelling for hours they gave us a bologna sandwich.....Most of those of us who were in jail were not even allowed a phone call even though we asked for one repeatedly.....Two of the people who did get a phonecall report that the bondsmen were playing videogames instead of working on our paperwork....None of the men were given toilet paper for the past twenty hours. "
thats what happens when you arrest 130 people with 6 or so lock up keepers to watch over them.
Simple solution, dont break the law asswipe. Its not a country club its jail, wait till you hear the reports from the ones who went to cook county on bail hearings.
In Albany New York, it is beginning. The police realize that we are not here to cause a riot, that we are here to do the most American thing we can do...protest our government and the plutocracy that it has become. Once we lose the right to assemble peacefully, the rest of our rights will soon follow.
We are playing right into missing fingers hands , let us do his dirty work he keeps his hands clean while we collect more police haters , wake up they are not the enemy , every week we add more folks to our list it's one thing to have shit heads hate us who cares . You think mr mayor is gonna support us when we get the civil-rights violations not a chance in hell. Coppers wake up play the game like mr mayor those folks are harmless . And some of their asses have a point.
you couldnt be more right..protect our future for our families.
10/24/2011 06:00:00 PM
Pweeeze leeeve the premmisiss....
Pure and Utter disaster.
Economic Professor and White collar criminologist William Black 10/23 interview on current banking corruption (audio only)
Respect the law Rahm - $75 trillion dollars may be at risk -- Five times the USA GDP - Arrest these bankers and the people committing the frauds.
Looks like Bank of America is about to dump more losses on the taxpayers using the FDIC to do it!
the problem with the protesters is that they know strength is in numbers but leave end watch as the 100 or so got arrested.
there was no way chicago could have locked up 2000 of them.
they would have had to crack and let them be. the dont have the manpower or capacity to lock up and house 2000.
ergo the strength in numbers was given up.
if your there to protest and get results you have to all!!! stick together!!!
STRENGTH IS IN NUMBERS!!!!!
You young socialists must hurry home before Mom rents out the basement. "OMG" then we will have to get a job. Who will pay for our piercings and our Degrees in Anthropology?
Hey Axelrod! Stay off our Blog.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/24/new-york-cops-defy-order-to-arrest-hundreds-of-occupy-protesters/
Not a bad idea.
Hey, hats off to the CPD for handling these protests way better than the NYPD has. Say what you want about the OWS protesters, but they're pussies and it's only going to escalate into violence if they think the cops are going to go all 1968 on them. Thanks for being professionals about this and not blowing it out of proportion, everybody knows you have limited resources and enough real crime to deal with.
I'm sure the tenprinter will work even better when the former TCA's are in charge of the lockup.
"...a Cook County judge I-bonds you for your twelfth domestic arrest..."
...or, just for variety, sets $200,000 bond for your first domestic arrest.
First arrest ever, for that matter.
Dysfunctional.
Arbitrary.
Capricious.
Crazy.
All judges to go through 90-day mental evaluation before being placed on ballot, and periodic drug testing thereafter. Blow 0.00% every morning upon arrival, or leave those black robes hanging in the corner and get a "designated driver" home.
Seems only fair.
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