Wisconsin Concealed Carry
Wisconsin's concealed carry law isn't even a month old, but thousands of your friends and neighbors already have permission to pack heat and they're buying up the hardware to do it.
Wisconsin became the 49th state to allow residents to carry concealed weapons this month. Questions about liability still linger, but gun sales have increased across the state and the state Justice Department has been deluged with so many permit requests it's already scrambling to keep up.
A long time coming. And as crime spirals here, maybe we'll see it in our lifetimes.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
54 Comments:
They don't need guns for deer anymore.
The WI. DNR has so mismanaged the deer herd that your chances of seeing a predator, 2 or 4 legged, is much better. I'm. Not sure if this is a result of insurance company contributions to corupt polititions, anti-hunters in offfice, incompetence or pure stupidity.
I have hunted north central WI. For the past 15 yrs and am finnaly disgusted.
I will vote w/ my wallet next year and not buy the 160.00 tag or spend my money in the local businesses.
Come on Illinois your next....
Gov Potatohead will never allow CC as long as he is governor. Even Rham doesn't want it. They ALL have bodyguards, so they don't feel our need. Furthermore, the legislative people, including the aldercreatures are allowed, so they don't care. The criminal element don't obey the laws, only the law abiding citizens do. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH CRIME!!!
The Brady Campaign must be beside themselves. CCW law passes, and 44k people apply. Brady Campaign does something, and maybe 44 people inquire.
This is what winning looks like.
49th State! Which one is the only state that does not allow conceal carry then? Let me guess. Are the last two elected governors convicted federal felons?
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Every day we read and hear about good people being victimized by Thugs in this city. Give them a chance to defend themselves. These assholes would certainly think twice about preying on the citizens of this city if they might even think they have a weapon to fight back. Fuck these arrogant self serving politicians.
only 8 states according to potus :>
not until we have a republican governor and madigan is gone
49th State! Which one is the only state that does not allow conceal carry then? Let me guess. Are the last two elected governors convicted federal felons?
Don't you know felons can't carry weapons. SO, If I can't, nobody can.
Concealed carry AND LEGAL if you carry openly without a permit.
Not as long as we have the Democrats running this state.... (into the ground).
It is just a matter it time, the Downstaters want it and they are flexing their muscle now.
44,000 applications in a month!!!! PrIceless, gotta love those cheese heads.
What a backward state we live in.
BTW - is there blood running in the streets?
Were there shootouts over parking spaces by those Black Friday shoppers?
Did anarchy break out?
The Brady idiots never give up on their failed dis-proven arguements.
•Wisconsin's concealed carry law isn't even a month old, but thousands of your friends and neighbors already have permission to pack heat and they're buying up the hardware to do it.
Good.
Congress passed legislation last week that would allow other states ccw permits to be allowed in Illinois. After all, we allow other states DL to be valid in Il, why not CCW?
It will probably drive up the price of hand gun ammo in the short term. Enjoy self defense Wisconsin
Maybe more Alderthieves, like Tunney, can get robbed. That guy is so libtarded I bet he does not carry HIS gun.
Well, until they pass a concealed carry law here in illionis, the good citizen that is packn heat to protect him/herself from the savage will continue to get a free pass from me.
yet illinois makes uuw a felony for those who have foid cards and are caught carrying, while cook county charges people with agravated battery with a firearm for shooting someone in the arm or leg, whats wrong with this picture?
Politicians and connected Democrats don't have to worry about getting victimized by Thugs in this state. All of these assholes are either "packing" or have lap dog body guards to protect them and their families. The rest of us are just bait for the predators roaming our streets. Every decent person in Illinois should have the right to arm themselves to at least have a fighting chance to survive in this cesspool called Chicago.
Swan Lake and Quinn don't give a shit about us - this won't happen while I live here (hopefully only 5-7 more years).
Not that I wouldn't do it anyway if I felt the need to do so.
--No Cop Here
11/26/2011 01:23:00 AM
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Yeah, two criminal Governors in a row...and my money is on tater-head to make it a hat trick.
If a truly independent and honest US Attorney were ever to take office one has to believe that the entire state, city and Cook County governments would be prosecuted under RICO.
Unfortunately with the puppet in the White House that ain't gonna happen.
Old Retired Guy Here;
I have mixed emotions about granting license for citizens to carry firearms. We take for granted that the licensee will have the same training, and same good judgement, as an experienced police officer. I have seen citizens go totally crazy over traffic issues. I have had people screaming at me for stopping and allowing a senior to cross the street. Do I want them armed ?
I just don't know how this will all play out.
Stay Safe All.
Concealed and Carry never in Illinois, reason being the corrupt politicans fear the law abiding citizen might start a armed revolt and kick them out of office! Heavens knows their will never be a honest election here!
@1.23am Four of the last seven former Illinois Governors (since 1970) have gone (or will be on the way) to Federal Prison.
"Welcome to Illinois, Where Our Former Governors Still Serve The People By Making Our License Plates"
No Illinois Judge can reasonably convict a law-abiding-citizen of this State for carrying concealed here, it it is fully Legal in the rest of the States in the Country. Hopefully the Judges will fine anyone caught who has no Criminal Record a one dollar fine, and that will be it, till this State exiles from Communism and joins the rest of the Country. hopefully the Governor and the Judges will be sued for punative damages also, if the offending Law-Abider is injured or killed while being unable to defend himself fully. Remember, Illinois IS a Communist State, and the U.S. IS a Communist Country now, since it is run and lead by the Democommunist Party.
I recently retired.....I have a couple of guns I'd like to sell....are there a lot of hoops to jump through to sell a gun out of state?
Even once it becomes legal it can still be effectively illegal. In LA county you can't get a CCW unless you give a nice big bribe, err campaign contribution to the local sheriff.
If you do manage to get a CCW law passed make sure you have it run from the state level.
Go Wisconsin!
GOOOO!!!! CHEESEHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Join the NRA while your at it!
President Obama wants to take our 2nd Amendment rights away!
Da Pelon
"not until we have a republican governor and madigan is gone"
Which one? As soon as he elder asshole kicks the bucket, the younger will take over. We are screwed for the next 40 years.
.....I just don't know how this will all play out.
Stay Safe All.
EASY, look at Florida, 24 years and counting since CCW there. It ain't a problem.
11/26/2011 02:44:00 PM
That is the dumbest comment I've ever read from you.
Democrap or Republitard...makes no difference in this damn state.
Not having a Reciprocity Law with the other 49 states just shows that the entire group of politicians in Illinois are afraid of Honest Citizens being able to defend themselves.
Its why I bought a Carbine. I don't Need to worry about a CCW
I recently retired.....I have a couple of guns I'd like to sell....are there a lot of hoops to jump through to sell a gun out of state?
11/26/2011 01:58:00 PM
Hi what do you have? Maybe I'll buy local here in IL. All we have to do is go to a FFL dealer and do the transfer.
I recently retired.....I have a couple of guns I'd like to sell....are there a lot of hoops to jump through to sell a gun out of state?
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Sell and buy on:
Gunbroker.com
Old Retired Guy Here;
I have mixed emotions about granting license for citizens to carry firearms. We take for granted that the licensee will have the same training, and same good judgement, as an experienced police officer. I have seen citizens go totally crazy over traffic issues. I have had people screaming at me for stopping and allowing a senior to cross the street. Do I want them armed ?
I just don't know how this will all play out.
Stay Safe All.
11/26/2011 11:37:00 AM
Read the 2nd Amendment. We are the only people on this planet that have this Right. (Except in the People's Republic of Illinois) Why do you think that the Democrats are trying so hard to get rid of it for so many years?
I recently retired.....I have a couple of guns I'd like to sell....are there a lot of hoops to jump through to sell a gun out of state?
11/26/2011 01:58:00 PM
How much will you get? Is it worth ridding yourself of something you might seriously need in the future. Think about it.
Just because every other State in the Union has enacted concealed carry doesn't mean we should do it.
The coincidence that violent crime against innocent citizens has sharply decreased in 98% of the States and there has been no "Wild West" scenarios playing out in those States does not mean that concealed carry works.
We, in Illinois, are not mindless lemmings waiting to be led of the cliff by a bunch of misguided, delusional gun nuts carrying on like the bearing arms is some sort of right. These wackos act like their John Wayne, gun-toting shenanigans were guaranteed by some sort of Act of Congress or Constitutional Amendment or something. The keep spewing out their extremist BS citing their so-called "Rights". Any moron knows, if this nation's founding fathers and framers of our Constitution intended to guarantee us any so called "rights" they would have put in in writing and documented it somehow. They would have created an indisputable record of their intents and probably called it something like, oh I don't know, a "Bill of Rights" maybe.
Every sane person knows that the first Americans, having broken free from the oppressive yoke of a tyrannical government, shedding their blood to break the chains of subject and servitude, wanted to create a society where we would be totally dependent upon our government for the basic protection of life and liberty. No way would they have wanted the free citizen to be able to defend themselves against marauders or a government unchecked. It is obvious they would have wanted the only weapons and means to fight solely in the hands of politicians and the ruling class.
Really folks, get a clue! If all your friends wore safety belts while driving, quit smoking and ate a moderate diet high in fiber and low in saturated fat, would you run out and do it too??? Just because they all said it would improve your health and lengthen your life. Really?? You would be so gullible as to be swayed by empirical data and documented facts??
How strong is the denial you live in that you would even hazard to think that Rahm, Richie and Madigan are wrong and every one else is right? I mean honestly, do we not live in the safest, most fiscally sound State in the USA? Is illinois not governed by the most altruistic, personally sacrificing and ethically unimpeachable politicians alive today? Are we not the standard of excellence in honesty and integrity to which all others aspire to become?
Well, we owe it all to the likes of Richie and Rahm. So sit back, take a deep breath, put all those ridiculous notions out of your head and relax. Pay no attention to those other 49 States. Everything will be alright. Now shut up and drink the Kool-Aid!
I just don't know how this will all play out.
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There are 49 other states to examine. It's not like this is even a question anymore.
I can see the NRA taking legal action against Illinois for violating it's citizens civil rights. 49 other states allow concealed carry but Illinois will not allow that right same as every other citizen in the US. Sounds like a winner to me....
Let's see if there will be roving bands of "honor" students attacking people in the State Fair parking lot this year up in Milwaukee.
11/27/2011 04:36:00 AM
That was great! Well done! I printed that out to show some lib friends and relatives. Probably won't sway them as they're too far gone, but I refuse to let them wallow in their choosing to be ignorant.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/us/politics/house-approves-bill-making-travel-easier-for-gun-owners.html
Now if it can get a sponsor in the Senate. I will be intersted to see what Dick Turbin thinks about this... my guess is that he will be opposed to it, along with Barry Sueto.
Not as long as we have the Democrats running this state.... (into the ground).
11/26/2011 08:42:00 AM
Illinois is a Bi-partisan criminal empire. If you think one group has a lock on it. you haven't been paying attention.
Vote them all out now! Turn the compost heap. The less time in office, the less time they have to figure out how much they can take for themselves. Career politicians have ruined this Country.
Old Retired Guy Here "AGAIN"
I am a strong supporter of the 2nd. Amendment. I am a life time member or the NRA. I have no issue with American Citizens owning and keeping firearms on their premises. My issue is with concealed carry. It is my understanding that even in the Old West,there were laws prohibiting carry into towns. Was not the famous Gun Fight At The OK Corral About Bringing Guns Into Town ?
ALL Illinois Politicians SUCK. Even the Conservative Repub Pols haven't been very vocal about the discrimination against Illinois Legal hun owners. They are ALL Jackoffs, far as I'm concerned, till I see em speak up. I'm voting the "Dump em All Ticket"' this November. Especially The Communist Obama.
...I can see the NRA taking legal action against Illinois for violating it's citizens civil rights.
There are currently TWO federal lawsuits filed against Illinois. One by the NRA with ISRA and the other by the SAF.
Illinois WILL lose. But quinn, madigan(s) and cullerton like daley will waste millions in taxes fighting a suit they lose.
Anonymous said...
Concealed and Carry never in Illinois, reason being the corrupt politicans fear the law abiding citizen might start a armed revolt and kick them out of office! Heavens knows their will never be a honest election here!
11/26/2011 11:41:00 AM
who says we need a "permit" to launch that revolt?
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
BUT if you read the tiny tiny print at the bottom...."except illinois"
I love spending my money in ANY OTHER STATE that allows CCW. On my AZ/PA CCW combination I can carry in 40 states.Open OR concealed.
And no there were no issues in WI when I carried openly. Matter of fact the Kenosha county sheriffs guys were more than cool about it.Something you KNOW you wont see in Chicago.
CCW ILLINOIS NOW!
Anonymous said...
I recently retired.....I have a couple of guns I'd like to sell....are there a lot of hoops to jump through to sell a gun out of state?
11/26/2011 01:58:00 PM
drop me an email.
spooge60638@yahoo.com
please put G4SALE in the subject so I know what its about.
Well, we owe it all to the likes of Richie and Rahm. So sit back, take a deep breath, put all those ridiculous notions out of your head and relax. Pay no attention to those other 49 States. Everything will be alright. Now shut up and drink the Kool-Aid!
11/27/2011 04:36:00 AM
Well Written! I was mad as hell when I started reading your post but at the end of it,YOU sir are Da Man!
Research "The Overwhelming Will of The People" doctrine.
Details exactly how Illinois will lose these NRA lawsuits.
After all there is DL reciprocity so why not CCW? If you dont want CCW in Illinois,then you also need to abolish out of state drivers licenses. Its the same principle.
There are 1,314,023 Valid FOID CARD HOLDERS IN ILLINOIS.
WE DEMAND CONCEALED CARRY AND THE RECOGNITION OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. IT WILL BE PRE EMPTIVE SO THAT THE COUNTRY OF CHICAGO CANNOT MAKE INANE GUN REGULATIONS THAT FURTHER RESTRICT AND/OR VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS.
With respect to the retired guy apprehensive about CCW,were you this apprehensive when you were in a bar that off duty(and armed) cops were drinking in?
With background checks, training and finger printing,the CCW permit has safeguards in the legislation.
AND it will conservatively generate 65 MILLION dollars for this state.
Gun owners are responsible law abiding people. I am one. This NEEDS TO PASS HERE. SOON!
for more info on CCW LAWS go to
usacarry.com
Old Rtired guy- You either support the 2nd or you don't. You cant say in one breath " I support the 2d" nd and then say "but my issue is wih concealed carry". In no other state that has allowed ccw has there been a problem. No wild west shootouts of any kind. Don't believe he lies the Brady people putout
Anonymous said...
Well, until they pass a concealed carry law here in illionis, the good citizen that is packn heat to protect him/herself from the savage will continue to get a free pass from me.
11/26/2011 10:25:00 AM
God Bless you Officer!
Steak Dinner and Drinks on me!
Sgt. Saunders said...
Old Rtired guy- You either support the 2nd or you don't. You cant say in one breath " I support the 2d" nd and then say "but my issue is wih concealed carry". In no other state that has allowed ccw has there been a problem. No wild west shootouts of any kind. Don't believe he lies the Brady people putout
11/28/2011 05:23:00 AM
Hmm the old wild west scenario. Funny! I went to Wyoming (the ACTUAL wild west) and carried both openly and concealed. Hell there are still hitching posts for horses outside some businesses. The ONLY restriction there is in WY is to check your gun with the Sheriff or Local police before going into a bar to drink.
There were no shoot outs, No "OK corral" incidents and nope the street was dry as a bone...not a drop of blood.
I support fully the fight for concealed carry in Illinois. It is a RIGHT that the politicians in this god forsaken state have violated for far too long. CCW has PROVEN to reduce crime.And no Officer, law abiding citizens carrying guns are NOT A THREAT TO YOU OR YOUR JOB so relax.What galls me no end is a person SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION is altogether too quick to want to violate it.
Illinois gun laws violate the 2nd,14th and 22nd(Illinois) amendment. Chicago Gun ORDINANCES further violate that right. NO WHERE in the CONSTITUTION does it say I can use my RIGHT if I pay some politician for the blessing to do so. And Officer,this isnt about the hardware and weaponry. Its about the RIGHT and the constant effort of the government(and that includes you)to restrict or squelch that right.
Understand that unless you can follow me around 24.7.365, I WILL be carrying a firearm to protect my self.
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