Nothing to See Here - Move Along
A man was hospitalized for medical evaluation after walking into a West Side police station on Thanksgiving — armed with a fully-loaded rifle and declaring martial law.
The man entered the Harrison District police station at 3151 W. Harrison around 4 a.m., carrying an AR-15 assault rifle and a loaded 30-round magazine, police said. Police said the man told them he was declaring martial law, but he did not point the gun at anybody or fire it.
Officers immediately tried to calm the 28-year-old man and were able to disarm him without a struggle and defuse the rifle, police said.
Police said the rifle was in full view, and the man made no effort to conceal it when he walked into the station. The man, who “appeared to be a bit unstable,” told officers he found the rifle a few days ago after seeing someone throw it over a fence, police said.
No mention of any previous criminal record involving weapons.
No mention the safety was off and a round was chambered.
It's not like crazy people haven't gotten a hold of weapons before and inflicted horrendous casualties on the unsuspecting before.
Just a simple weapon turn-in at 4 AM.
On a side note....
Anyone want to buy a bridge?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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not to mention as he was wrestled down he was screaming he was gonna kill all you motherf*ckers. good work officers. and let me get this straight... he found a fully loaded rifle that was thrown over a fence?? did they also throw 3 fully loaded magazines over the fence also?? I dont think so.a crazy hype on the west side cant come up and find three magazines for a ar 15 and 60 rounds of ammo for an ar 15. A gangbanger cant even find enough matching ammo for his old shi**y 38... yeah, this guy was out to kill officers.
I walked through the front doors of 011 two nights ago and it literally smelled like a fucking dead body. You know the smell. I couldn't pinpoint the homeless culprit and didn't want to. What a joke of a department we work for. (fart noise)
You're not going to get the truth from the main stream media because the truth may "hurt" corporate profits.
If corporate profits are hurt advertising get's pulled and campaign donations come to a halt.
Not only that, because the political apparatus has demonstrated that the laws will be enforced unequally the media doesn't want to get harassed with every little 100 year old city ordinance that the city can find from parking tickets to building codes -- so just chalk it up to something that was created from the cities actions.
It's much easier to put the blame on the blue shirts. The city is safe and crime is falling. Hey, come on down and spend your money and help increase the concentration of wealth
"Anyone want to buy a bridge?"
In Chicago,no way.
Nice bridge!!!!
Am I crazy or not for thinking about this? After the civilians take over the desk what is preventing someone from entering the station, shooting or scaring off the civs at the desk and then moving to the processing area...where you have already put your guns up. I hope the civs don't have keycard access all over the station.
I thought Weis was going to leave town.
happy thanksgiveing all
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
As a civilan, I was pretty shocked the first time I just strolled into the 13th.
I used to run and even early in the morning, it becomes very hot in the summer. Since they locked the water fountain at the park near my house,it was common for me to stop and use the water fountain---since it was open and all.
How is dude not cooling off down the street on Harrison? Next time please shoot and continue to shoot.
"...defuse the rifle." Did he have an arquebus too?
how much for the bridge?
And don't anyone try and pull the arrest report on this or you will face some strong discipline!
Anonymous said...
happy thanksgiveing all
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
11/25/2011 02:25:00 AM
Go to several suburban departments around Chicago and see how secure they can be. Brookfield is more secure than the average Chicago Currency Exchange. The public has no in person dealings with an officer until the officer lets the person in. Other than that everything is through heavy glass and armor.
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
11/25/2011 02:25:00 AM
Go to any suburban station and you can see how to do it. Chicago doesn't want to hurt any citizens feelings, so Police Officers will be in the line of fire. We are expendable. Always have been.
Hey SCC, the media in this case only reports what the empty holsters at News Affairs tell them. I want to know why News Affairs is hiding the facts? And if that unit doesn't do its job, maybe FOPS Pat Camden should do a press release.
No one is asking the question, "has this person been radicalized by Islam in prison" and/or "was this a dry run for larger scale inceidents"?
i like the part about defuzing the rifle that was in full view.
You're not going to get the truth from the main stream media because the truth may "hurt" corporate profits.
If corporate profits are hurt advertising get's pulled...
11/25/2011 12:25:00 AM
Another OCCUPY WALLSTREETER heard from. Will you please go waste your breath on some OTHER blog and leave the police blog alone?
And, no; adding a gratuitous paragraph, trying to entangle the police in your blowhard rhetoric does NOT make it okay.
happy thanksgiveing all
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
11/25/2011 02:25:00 AM
Go to a suburban police department or a State police facility. Try to get past the double-locked secure entry vestibule. Try to throw a rock through the bulletproof glass barrier between you and the desk officer.
THAT's how you secure the building.
Oh, and notice how there are no stinking, lice-ridden, disease-carrying homeless lying about on the floor when you DO visit those non-Chicago police stations.
Too many incident where these assholes walk into police stations and kill police officers. If this guy is nutz then lock him up and keep him there.
station security sucks. always has. this department, supe and mayor needs to wake the fuck up
would it be so exspensive to have buzzer entry doors and metal detectors at each station? spend millions on cameras?.. but not on the safety of police facilities???
Rahm's new plan. No one can walk into a police station with a loaded assault weapon if there are no police stations!
We need to more aggressively inform the public just how at risk they are, due to the criminal lack of manpower on the C.P.D. Citizens, us included, pay a lot of taxes and get nothing in return.
Anonymous said...
"well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such..."
11/25/2011 02:25:00 AM
I have a summer place in a small township in SE Wisconsin. Went to their police station one day and found the following:
1- Locked front doors with an intercom system;
2- I needed to explain the purpose of my visit;
3- The person I was coming to see had to approve my entering the facility (I had to wait OUTSIDE while they located him in the building);
4- Once I gained access to the lobby, there were several chairs to sit on while waiting to be admitted to the rest of the facility;
5- Persons who were there to make a report did so in this lobby, through bullet proof glass, to the clerk in the next room.
And THAT is EXACTLY how one would secure a lobby!
Don't be fooled by the liberal political open door policy of the socialist state of Chicago/Illinois.
It CAN and MUST BE DONE!!!
Officers great job but someone should've taken this terrorist out....if a guy has an ar 15 in front of your face! YES its ok to shoot because if your not in fear of your life at that point then you have no reason to be in this job cause that constitutes a threat...be safe everyone! to many people afraid to make the ultimate decision.... at one point fuck the job its your life and the poeple around you...
"disarm him without a struggle and defuse the rifle, police said."
How does one "defuse" a rifle?
If I do buy that bridge, how long will it take before a dozen city inspectors threaten to close it down until the proper contributions are made to the DemocRATic Party?
Anonymous said...
Am I crazy or not for thinking about this? After the civilians take over the desk what is preventing someone from entering the station, shooting or scaring off the civs at the desk and then moving to the processing area...where you have already put your guns up. I hope the civs don't have keycard access all over the station.
11/25/2011 12:56:00 AM
Concealed carry and/or Special Police Powers.That or a good base ball bat behind the desk.
We need Police on the Streets,not hiding behind the "desk". Yes its rough out there.Yes the desk is a welcome break SOMETIMES.But raccoon eyes is GOING TO cut the budget. Will "civilians" be scared off? Maybe maybe not. Hard to call this one. And can someone please tell me where one "finds" an AR/15 with three loaded mags? I need to get my xmas shopping done early! (ha ha hah)
You're not going to get the truth from the main stream media because the truth may "hurt" corporate profits.
If corporate profits are hurt advertising get's pulled and campaign donations come to a halt.
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This has nothing to do with corporations. This has to do with Rahm and McNutty having egg on their face. They don't like it and it threatens their stance of the city needing less police and not police on their desks.
If you hate the corporations so much, go hang out with Occupy Chicago.
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
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There are plenty of ways to secure a lobby. Numerous other police departments use a lobby that is enclosed with bullet proof glass and set apart from the police staff in a seperate room. People have to be buzzed in after having been seen and evaluated. It isn't a perfect system as an AK round would penetrate most bullet proof glass, but it provides officers with some time, shielding and distance to determine how to handle a nut job intent on doing them harm.
Maybe we can get the TSA to screen all the jerks going into our station houses.
Why don't we secure the stations by using wrought iron gates from the friend of Daley that puts them up all over the city. How about the union organize a march demanding station security! March downtown or occupy headquarters/city hall!
Definately time for the union to file a safety greviance. The Detroit video and this incident are proof enough!
Yeah nice bridge!
Why no corporate Bank of America tags hanging on it?
Rahm doesn't want this to be a story because it illustrates that our police stations can be dangerous because they're unsecured. Therefore Rahm and his puppets have put a huge spin on this and spoon feeds it to the naive media.
FOP needs to jump all over this one. Strike while the iron's hot, boys!! The public needs this fresh in their minds when contract time & talks come around, too.
Please tell me it just wasn't a "weapons turn in". If this shit head was taken to the looney ward instead of lockup, guess whats gonna happen. He'll be evaluated by some piece of shit liberal Dr who will end up releasing him after about two or three days because the the shithead doesn't have insurance and he'll be back on the street in two days when he shoulda got locked up for uuw
How much? It might be a good deal for a news media pension fund.
"well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?"
It's been years since I have been in a police station, but couldn't there be an entry alcove beyond which you could not pass w/o being buzzed in? It would be bullet resistant and the officer at the desk would be behind armored glass. Think of the way most currency exchanges are designed. To get farther in on any business (as opposed to as a prisoner) would mean a frisking. As a citizen I would have no problem with this at all.
It might also be possible to have a metal detector at the entrance that would not go off for keys or coins too often, but would for a larger hunk of steel like a gun or big knife.
There might be some false alarms, but with this design the officer at the door would have an opportunity to assess each visitor from a safe place.
We should have tasers and machine guns behind the desk.
Bulletproof dividers at the very least.
Hey sell your own Bridge!!
I didn't know rifles were fuzed, and that's after 13 years in the army.
"...a crazy hype on the west side cant come up and find three magazines for a ar 15 and 60 rounds of ammo for an ar 15...."
--11/25/2011 12:20:00 AM
I really think this was just a winehead, street furniture that nobody would notice much, who just happened to see where a corner crew stashed their heavy stuff. AR is a lot of money -- where is he going to get hold of one otherwise? C'mon.
He then pulled one of those inexplicable crazies, took it to the police station and started yelling some winehead fantasy.
It doesn't matter that he survived his encounter with the police; he won't survive the payback for this when he gets out of "psychiatric evaluation," wherever that is.
"Ain' nobody steal from us."
Tell the ME to keep a drawer available for this guy...
The modern generic station design is highly vulnerable. Too easy for a nut to jump the little gate on the side and flank the entire desk. A good design would have a large lobby but a narrow focused "desk" area, with secured inaccesible sides. And armored with doors to escape to the back that are out of the firing line of any nut. It could still be "public friendly" but way safer.
You my friend, are an idiot!!! Lord of the idiots!!
happy thanksgiveing all
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
OT
What is going on in 012. Lots of changes. Lots of very upset people the past few days. Let's see who goes to different watches as a detail. Lots of 5 year wonders upset cuz they can't work any other watch but days. When did 012 turn into a bunch of cry babies suck holes. Put your time in like everyone else.
He was actually looking for Henny Penny, she promised to deputize him if he could learn how to write his name.
If the city can't come up w/ ideas of securing stations, they should take a ride out to Downers Grove PD.Bullet Proof Glass set-up like a currency exchange,steel security doors, very secure station.
What is going on in 012. Lots of changes. Lots of very upset people the past few days. Let's see who goes to different watches as a detail. Lots of 5 year wonders upset cuz they can't work any other watch but days. When did 012 turn into a bunch of cry babies suck holes. Put your time in like everyone else.
11/26/2011 12:17:00 AM
It's not just in 012 it's in every district. The youngsters think they are entitled to everything. They have no respect for senior officers and don't want to listen to advice because they know everything right out of the academy. They expect to work days and even have weekends off. They get upset when they have to work holidays. Sorry junior put in your time.
You my friend, are an idiot!!! Lord of the idiots!!
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happy thanksgiveing all
well i'm not sure how one could secure a lobby
i mean a station has to open to the public for help and such
( what can one do stop and search everyone comming in?) metal dectors?
you want to encourege the public to be accessiable
luckily no one was hurt with knuckle head with the gun
could have been worse
that is a tuffy to say the least
enjoy a safe sane holiday
11/25/2011 11:37:00 PM
Agreed, the poster is a naive idiot.
No, we do NOT want to encourage the public to visit the station. It's a place of business and if you don't have police business, you shouldn't be casually stopping by.
If you do have police business, we sure as hell SHOULD be searching you, or walking you through a metal detector, before we deal with you up close and personal.
Luck had little to do with no one getting hurt; it's called policing, and someone did a fine job that night. Kudos.
It's not a 'tuffy', junior. It's common sense. Ah, but now I see where that concept could be a problem for you.
in 012 if they detail them back to days, FOP should file a grieveance. Thats just an end around to avoid the contract . Also the detail should and can be only for 90 days, but as usual I'm sure it last all year in violation of the contract If you dont like it grieve it
If the city can't come up w/ ideas of securing stations, they should take a ride out to Downers Grove PD.Bullet Proof Glass set-up like a currency exchange,steel security doors, very secure station.
11/26/2011 12:44:00 AM
I picked up a CSA kit there a few years back. They had pictures of their sex offenders on the wall, all four of them. I asked if this was all their sex offenders. The officer behind the glass asked if that was not a lot. My response was that is one apartment in Roger's Park...
"I picked up a CSA kit [in Downers Grove] a few years back. They had pictures of their sex offenders on the wall, all four of them. I asked if this was all their sex offenders. The officer behind the glass asked if that was not a lot. My response was that is one apartment in Roger's Park..."
--11/26/2011 09:03:00 PM
They mo' crost the hall, too.
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