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NBC 5 covers the recent NIU murder in depth (go view it before they take it down again):
- A Markham teen has been charged in the shooting death of a Northern Illinois University student at an off-campus party, DeKalb Police said Wednesday afternoon.
Chaz Thrailkill, 19, is accused of getting into a fight with Steven Agee II, 22, early Wednesday at an apartment complex at 809 Edgebrook Drive, police said. Agee, a sociology major and student leader on campus, was shot three times in the chest around 2 a.m. and later pronounced dead at Kishwaukee Hospital.
Thrailkill was charged with first-degree murder, aggravated battery with a firearm and aggravated discharge of a firearm. Thrailkill was arrested at 10:42 a.m. in the 1100 block of Varsity Bl., police said, and is being held on $3 million
UPDATE: We're being told the hand signs the victim is posing with is an actual fraternity along with the colors he is pictured wearing. While we have no idea why a fraternity would condone emulating what gets hundreds, if not thousands of people killed every year in cities across the nation, we'll remove the sarcastic portion of our posting along with the photo for the time being.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
44 Comments:
He's just trying to show his support for the Rahminator, that's all...But he picked the wrong finger and got kilt.
NIU is a dump!
And then they ran this photograph three separate times during their video segment
And also the last that they wil ever run that photo of out "cripple" offender.
Afterall, he was just finna turn his life around.
He didnt mean to pull dat trigger, it was da PALSEY he gots in dem hands.
im not a cop, but im also not a media troll just a citizen.. but what gang is he "representing"? thanks!
Mom of victim was on TV sounding like an experienced jailbird; talking about "doing time" and how much and stuff someone who spent some real time hanging around a criminal courts building would know.
Of course, not a peep from father of the victim or offender or even a mention. Dad(s) is(are) probably safely ensconced in one of our finest penal institutions somewhere with a name like Pontiac, Big Muddy or Marion.
He is not throwing up a gang sign. He is a member of a college fraternity, and that is the hand symbol. It resembles the"okay" hand gesture. It is suppose to be a diamond shape.
The "victim" is a dope dealer from the west side. I would not send my dog to NIU.
To All,
Before anyone starts with the comments about the picture that has been shown of the victim in this incident I would like everyone to be aware of what you are seeing. In the picture of Steven Agee that hand sign that you are seeing is not a gang sign. Steven Agee was a member of a International Fraternity, Kappa Alpha Psi, which has been in existence since 1911. The hand sign is representing a saying that members use. The saying is the word YO! you have the three upright fingers indicative of the letter Y and the thumb and other finger touching to represent the letter O. This was not another gang banger killing another gang banger. Steven Agee was a leader on the NIU campus as well as a leader within the Fraternity. He was young man with a plan and heading in the right direction. He was online to graduate and had already secured employment for after graduation in the professional world. I just want everyone to know this was a tragic loss to his family, friends and the community. And before anyone thinks I am some troll commenting I am 25 year vet of CPD and a member of the same Fraternity.
May God Bless and Keep his Family as they journey through their Loss.
Of course, not a peep from father of the victim or offender or even a mention. Dad(s) is(are) probably safely ensconced in one of our finest penal institutions somewhere with a name like Pontiac, Big Muddy or Marion.
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You mean the victim's dad, a Harvey firefighter? Miss the cut on the last detective's exam, champ?
Dumb patrolman or fake Internet cop? You be the judge.
To those who think it is a gang sign it is not. Shows the stupidity of some just to label something "Gang like" when they don't know why don't you ask before you speak like I said before in an earlier post that is the sign for his college fraternity and even the gang bangers won't do that. Thanks to 1:04 & 2:55.
11/24/2011 02:55:00 AM
Well, if this is true then perhaps that fraternity should change things.
I am sure that they did not have "hand signs" back in 1911 !
To the rest of us in a morale society it looks like gang signs.
Again, perhaps the black community leaders need to try and change things.
Specifically: if you dress ghetto = you are ghetto.
If you use hand signs for anything other than sign language for the deaf = you are ghetto.
If you act like a fool and talk that way as well = you are ghetto.
They're ghetto frats. Made up by these clowns. Not like the offical santioned fratas that have been around for hundreds of years.
I think that hand sign was a premonition of sorts.
Three upright fingers represent the three shots that he took to the chest. The thumb and forefinger joined to make a "circle" represents the new holes in his body.
And a member of an International Fraternity named Kappa Alpha Psi...or "KAP" for short. As in "I's finna put a KAP in dat ass"!!!
*** Note to 11/24/2011 02:55:00 AM: Fraternity Brother or not, you must not have seen the other pictures of the victim, YO! 02:04:00 AM knows what time it is.
I am also a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Inc. And I am also a CPD officer. I would appreciate it if the offhanded comments cease regarding our dearly departed brother.
Those same fraternity hand symbols have been used since 1911. Not a gang sign!
Steven had to be very special--19 years old and graduating from college? Even if he turned 20 he was a year ahead of the game!
Can the 25 year vet explain why this happened?
That's no gang sign. Steven Agee was demonstrating his love and connection to his fraternity, Kappa Alpha Psi. He wasn't just a member, he was the President of the chapter. There are many Kappas on this job that can attest to this.
CPD
That's not a gang sign! He's a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. And to answer your question hand signs have been used by fraternities, sororities and secret societies since their existence. My fraternity Pi Kappa Alpha has a hand sign and a handshake. Gang members just adopted it.
What's his IR?
Chaz is about what I expected
Parents who love their children do not let them go to NIU.
You question why a fraternity would condone something, ask yourself this how many other things that thugs do do we also do as a normal part of our life, why should the fraternity change something that has been symbolic to them long before gangs just because of some idiots??
And to the poster asking about the victims father, what news were you watching, because the father was shown still attired in his work uniform.
Dekalb is just another government funded ghetto! I would deter anyone from sending their kids to a state funded University. NIU was bad when I was in college and it has only gotten worse.
The "victim" is a dope dealer from the west side. I would not send my dog to NIU.
MIT grad right!!
"We're being told the hand signs the victim is posing with is an actual fraternity along with the colors he is pictured wearing. While we have no idea why a fraternity would condone emulating what gets hundreds, if not thousands of people killed every year in cities across the nation..."
Culture of death and insanity.
They say it's a "fraternity." So go ahead and show the picture so everyone will know what you're talking about.
"They're ghetto frats. Made up by these clowns. Not like the offical santioned fratas that have been around for hundreds of years."
Kappa Alpha Psi has been in existence for 100 years, nothing ghetto about it. What the hell are you talking about?
You would think in a day and age when such an esteemed frat watches the news, they'd rethink the hand thing.
Anonymous said...
11/24/2011 02:55:00 AM
Well, if this is true then perhaps that fraternity should change things.
I am sure that they did not have "hand signs" back in 1911 !
To the rest of us in a morale society it looks like gang signs.
Again, perhaps the black community leaders need to try and change things.
Specifically: if you dress ghetto = you are ghetto.
If you use hand signs for anything other than sign language for the deaf = you are ghetto.
If you act like a fool and talk that way as well = you are ghetto.
11/24/2011 06:52:00
Check your spelling goof!!! Morale or moral?
"Well, if this is true then perhaps that fraternity should change things.
I am sure that they did not have "hand signs" back in 1911 !"
You're sure? How could you possibly know that? Kappa Alpha Psi came before all the nonsense gang signs. Perhaps you would recognize a gang sign when you saw one, if you were working in a busy district. The next time you try to claim the moral high ground maybe you should learn the difference between moral and morale, your time would be better working on you.
Parents who love their children do not let them go to NIU.
11/24/2011 10:14:00 AM
You are a complete moron. This is stupidity on so many levels that I can't even begin to address it.
SCC and other brothers and sisters in blue...take a look at how many of these comments are offending CPD P/Os, not westside dogs or future honor students as they are often called. The victim's dad was quoted in the paper before his mom was, still someone says he's probably in IDOC. The kid, from the south burbs, was called a westside dope dealer on here and it was suggested that the fraternities (around decades before Chicago gangs and none originating from Chicago) should not use hand signs that college students recognize across the country.
He was a leader on campus, at NIU on academic scholarship, already set up with a job, not to mention elected to an intra-state position for his fraternity. So why are P/Os on here making fun of this homicide again? This is not a kid that we were going to get to know.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To All,
Before anyone starts with the comments about the picture that has been shown of the victim in this incident I would like everyone to be aware of what you are seeing. In the picture of Steven Agee that hand sign that you are seeing is not a gang sign. Steven Agee was a member of a International Fraternity, Kappa Alpha Psi, which has been in existence since 1911. The hand sign is representing a saying that members use. The saying is the word YO! you have the three upright fingers indicative of the letter Y and the thumb and other finger touching to represent the letter O. This was not another gang banger killing another gang banger. Steven Agee was a leader on the NIU campus as well as a leader within the Fraternity. He was young man with a plan and heading in the right direction. He was online to graduate and had already secured employment for after graduation in the professional world. I just want everyone to know this was a tragic loss to his family, friends and the community. And before anyone thinks I am some troll commenting I am 25 year vet of CPD and a member of the same Fraternity.
May God Bless and Keep his Family as they journey through their Loss.
11/24/2011 02:55:00 AM
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Thank you. I did not know that. Sorry.
Of course, not a peep from father of the victim or offender or even a mention. Dad(s) is(are) probably safely ensconced in one of our finest penal institutions somewhere with a name like Pontiac, Big Muddy or Marion.
11/24/2011 12:37:00 AM
No idiot! The father was in the background wearing the CTA uniform. News even said father got the news while he was at work. You are such an ass!
it was fine when i went Class of '92
Anonymous said...
Mom of victim was on TV sounding like an experienced jailbird; talking about "doing time" and how much and stuff someone who spent some real time hanging around a criminal courts building would know.
"Of course, not a peep from father of the victim or offender or even a mention. Dad(s) is(are) probably safely ensconced in one of our finest penal institutions somewhere with a name like Pontiac, Big Muddy or Marion.
11/24/2011 12:37:00 AM"
Depending upon which new outlet you were watching, the father of the victim was quoted making a statement. Later it was explained that after idenifying his son, the father was too overcome with emotion and grief to give an on camera interview. The victim's mother spoke before the cameras instead.
What I can't understand, police humor aside, is WTF is funny about a grieving parent who is obviously on the edge, numb of heart and mind, trying to make sense of what is senseless. To lose a child who is correctly engaged in society, actually making the grades and trying to earn an education so he can be a productive member of the community? What is it about your experience as the police, if in fact you are the police, that can not descern the difference between a genuine upstanding citizen trying to raise a family and the average bustouts that you may be accustomed to dealing with? If you tend to generalize about who you think are the bottom feeders in this society, then you need to get a f'n grip. The victim's mother doesn't have to be terribly affluent, but she certainly understands the importance of sending her son away to earn an education. I wouldn't label the victim or his family as ghetto until I had something solid to base it on.
Compassion, believe it or not, is also a good trait for the Real Police to have. Perhaps you need to consider that.
I love this blog, but many of the comments in this thread are just shameful.
"Anonymous said...
Of course, not a peep from father of the victim or offender or even a mention. Dad(s) is(are) probably safely ensconced in one of our finest penal institutions somewhere with a name like Pontiac, Big Muddy or Marion.
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You mean the victim's dad, a Harvey firefighter? Miss the cut on the last detective's exam, champ?
Dumb patrolman or fake Internet cop? You be the judge.
11/24/2011 04:43:00 AM"
I totally agree with you 04:43:00 am. Whoever posted that crap needs to learn to get some facts before he posts something so f'n stupid. If he actually is a copper he needs to get some schoolin'. What's more he needs to understand that if he is taking this job seriously that he needs to evaluate what his job really requires. You CAN NOT generalize on this job. It will either get you killed or jammed up so bad with members of the community - whom you serve - that you will have to make some different career moves. You don't have to like a whole lot of people out here on the streets, but you do have to KNOW who you are dealing with. Everyone out here is NOT the same. A little common sense, a little observation, a little research and an open mind would have made it obvious that the victim's mother was in real, genuine pain. A law enforcement professional doesn't make snap judgements and public pronouncements about things like this. We already have a public relations problem. Does he think his stupid ass remarks makes it any better? And coppers wonder why many members of the public hate the police.
What a f'n loser!
To the unpublished asshat:
We aren't posting your crap because it...well, it's crap. We admitted the unclear info, removed the sarcasm, and explained why. We didn't remove the entire post and pretend it never happened, like some would have and the media does regularly.
But you can't let it go. You come on here and spout your crap over and over and over. You won't let it go, so we can safely assume that either (A) you're Jesse Jackson or (B) a professional grievance-monger....but we repeat ourselves.
Go away child, you bore us.
My condolences to the family.
SCC. Just for the record, I personally think you handled this matter correctly. You didn't sweep it under the rug, as some media outlets would, and let it hang after publishing corrections and updated information. You didn't allow it to get out of hand with the usual asinine comments that some folks make. In my opinion you do a good job of monitoring these issues on your blog and retain a huge amount of integrity for this site. You bring a great deal of fairness to the mix, while at the same time allowing coppers to openly express themselves. Kudos.
It's sad to think that so many bloggers can only relate to or prefer to see this Mom falling out screaming, crying, and foaming at the mouth. Who are you to say how one should grieve their murdered child? I think Mrs. Agee spoke with clarity, she was respectful to the media and answered all of their questions, and instead of enjoying her holiday like most in America, she and her husband, Mr. Agee (who did make a brief statement) went on to plan for the funeral of their son. The media went back and even interviewed Steven's former high school principal, and the story remains the same... He was an all around upstanding role model, oh yeah, and a dynamic athlete! How about Steven was at NIU on an academic scholarship! Now I have to wonder...WHAT KIND OF KID ARE YOU RAISING? Please get a L I F E
Thank you 11/24/2011 10:20:00 PM
"What is it about your experience as the police, if in fact you are the police, that can not descern the difference between a genuine upstanding citizen trying to raise a family and the average bustouts that you may be accustomed to dealing with? If you tend to generalize about who you think are the bottom feeders in this society, then you need to get a f'n grip."
I think you hit the nail on the head. Some of our brothers and sisters are incapable of discerning the difference between citizens and bust-outs when they are dealing with certain ethnic groups. Not every minority is a thug, welfare recipient or bust-out. Lot's of us are your co-workers, bankers, lawyers and teachers.
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