Secure the Stations - NOW
Thanksgiving tragedy averted:
- Overnight in 011, a subject walked into the 011th District Desk with a fully loaded AR-15 strapped to his chest and equipped with multiple magazines. Only pure luck and quick thinking allowed an officer or two to jump him before he was able to cut down the entire desk crew and responding officers.
Can someone please secure the station lobbies, lock the doors and make sure that our brothers and sisters aren't sitting ducks for the next psycho?
And lose the idea that manning the desks with civilians is a good fucking idea.
Remember this?Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 6:15 AM
143 Comments:
What a tragedy this could have been. Gratitude goes out to whoever stopped this loon.
Consider the fact that at the newer stations, ALL Officers must secure their weapons before entering the processing area and walk around the station UNARMED until finished. If this puke had chosen 010 instead of 011, the outcome might have been catastrophic.
lets face it,aside from one or two professional desk crews,most district desk crews are too busy playing on their cell phones,facebooking and home shopping to be aware of who walks through the doors.way too many desk personal acting like kids in a very dangerous playground.
McCarthy, please secure our facilities immediately!
Show us the respect we deserve!
Don't wait for my blood to be spilled on the floor!
How about taking those little 380's off the desk crew and making them carry their duty weapons in case of this type of nonsense? I've seen numerous desk folks carrying these mouse guns.
I'm sorry this asshole attacked anyone. But if he's going to attack, I'm glad it was someone who could fight back instead of a schoolroom.
and yet the 3/w desk sgt will defend the rites of the homeless fucks to use the lobby as a crashpad AND buy lunch for a few of them on a regular basis. I bet never once did the officers that work inside pat those mopes down for weapons cus that 'would violate there rights and its a public building'. did you ever see the amount of people waiting in lines at that desk and lobby area??? its like they own the place!!! the city/CPD needs to wall that desk off w/bulletproof glass and make the people who want reports wait outside to be buzed-in 1 at a time. its only a matter of time before a p.o. gets hurt or killed in that place, they are sitting ducks - literally. oh well guess it wont matter cus the rumor says desks are going civilian anyways
Small towns have better security than Chicago. After 6pm, you have to be buzzed into the lobby. The desk crew is behind glass and locked doors.
The first station they should secure is 111th Street. You don't even have to go into the station. You could cause major damage from the street the way they have the front of the building wall to wall glass and the front counter running from end to end like it's a fucking theater!
The people who are allowed to design and build these districts are obviously not thinking about defensible space, or public safety by the way they incorporate their "wow" factor details into their blueprints.
Architects are usually in la-la land anyway with their curved walls and glass bullshit, but whoever authorizes their designs needs to remind them that something just like this video could happen in the building they are conceiving. Perhaps ask the architect how he would feel if HE had a couple fingers blown off just for showing up to work one day.
By the way, Happy Thanksgiving everyone. And to all the officers working today, there ARE people who think like you, worry about you and appreciate what you do.
---not a cop
That's crazy! Lock down, never understood
Why all the vagrants can wander in & hang
Out in the stations ??? Glad no police were
Hurt! Happy Thanksgiving to all
WTF!!! They need to jump on this sh@t quick. Every district in the city is vulnerable to some sh@t like this. Thank GOD for those two officers.
Hoping this is not true, or just lucky I'm rdo in 011. Been telling everyone that 011 is the most unsecured police station in the nation, lets start with no pillars in front to stop a car from driving into the station from blowing it up, also up standing citizens walking in the doors with out metal detectors looking for their baby daddies causing a ruckus, and bums sleeping/ walking in and out of the lobby spreading all types of air borne pathogens/pissing/and spread diseases looking for human services, mold growing everywhere, all types of exposed wires hanging everywhere, cameras that haven't worked since the 70's, computers in the processing rooms that are beat to hell, electronic equipment that malfunction all the time, processing rooms where the offenders are in reach to do what ever, also bums / anyone can walk through the lot and have access to our parked vehicles, 011 being an area needs to renovate, its really terrible working in those conditions, plus where suppose to have citizen workers taking care of business now in the future up front now......but hey working in 011 or any other working district were suppose to be tough, least in 011 we have a gate that is sometimes closed up front to stop the bad guys from walking behind the desk or in the district.
This incident is unfortunate. Recall the gang attempt to fire a rocket into the 011 district ? Manning the desk with mostly civilians is still a good idea. But, what would be done is retrofitting all stations in a similar manner as just about every police department in the country does. The desk should be behind bullet resistant glass and the lobbies should be made much smaller.
Holy gyromite.........
To create a factility such as say, Oak Park where the station is like a gigantic ghetto currency exchange would create the appearance of a siege mentality, and violate the basic concepts of Community Policing. Until a few cops are killed at which point the corrections will be made. Remember, this is the Mayor who was behind Obama, and we all know that Obama is about appearance not substance.
Secure our stations, where we going to get the money? Rahm has to buy $7 mil worth of cemetery property to build a piss bum park
This was in Trib today;
The three, students at the American University in Cairo, were paraded Tuesday on Egyptian television. It cited an Interior Ministry official saying they had been detained after throwing petrol bombs at police protecting the Interior Ministry building. The university had previously named them as Gregory Porter, Luke Gates and Derrik Sweeney.
One of these "Ocupiers" is from Indiana.
Guess where he'll be when G8/NATO comes to town.
There are too many mentals hanging around the stations now! The city needs to stop using lobbies as shelters and get these people the help they need!
New 012th District has over 800 TONS of asbestos!!!!!
FOX / Channel 32's Larry Yellen reports:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com
/dpp/news/metro/chicago-
12th-district-police-
station-osha-asbestos-
pipe-soil-contamination
-danger-20111123
WOW! so if they replace our desk people with civilians they would have been all killed. Did this even make the news?
McGoof isn't gonna do a damn thing. You can make a safe bet that if something like the Detroit incident occurs;McGoof and Rahmbolina will piss and moan about having stricter anti-gun laws.
We must greet the citizens with open arms.
The customer is always right.
Da ex mayor.
Yeah, lets get rid of the desk crew and put all civilians on the desk. Again, anyone who has been around a while knows we have shooting incidents in district stations over the years. This could be a tragedy waiting to happen if we get rid of desk crews.
Supposedly a weapon turn in.
ive been bitching about station security for years and not a single boss will take it seriously. bums in all the hallways, convicts washing cars in the police lot, sales persons setting up jewelry and insurance shop right next to evidence and processing rooms. bums and just ibonded criminals walking in the locker room or officers bathroom. felons parking next to officers cars in the secure lot. its a joke
Making Police stations " sanctuaries " for every diseased mental miscreant in the city is a tragedy waiting to happen.
SCC reports the serious & deadly potential of unsecured stations, but the city will do NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to resolve this security issue.
Why? Because Rahm & the " rubber stamp " city council doesn't give a fuck about us.
STAY ALERT!
Where did he get an assault rifle. They are illegal!
Yes and these idiots running CPD think unarmed civilians should be protecting our front door.
The priority is the budget not security of the officers. They will continue to hire civilians for the desk and lockup. Will it take a disaster for 35th to wake up and realize the dangers?
I went to the Northfield Police Station to turn in some valuables I found. Bulletproof glass, after being buzzed in with a bank teller's drawer to put the items into. But any schmuck (sorry Ronnie) can walk into a CPD station loaded and armed for bear. What's the deal? Are we expendable in the name of being correct?
wow, thank god nobody was killed or injured--- desk officers don't wear body armor and a lot of them carry snubbies or smaller light weight weapons--- this could have went to shit real fast....
Omg! God bless those officers for saving themselves and any civilians. Its a shame that nothing will change in this department and they will continue to decimate the ranks, leaving one po on the desk or just replacing with civilians. Its a shame that the mayor and this hack we have as a superintendent cant admit police officers are trained law enforcement professionals, in the same vain as a doctor is to the medical profession, a lawyer in the justice system, a teacher in the educational system. This city needs more law enforcement officers. Although as merit hacks, assume positions of exempt status, the superintendent comes to mind, it would appear a trained monkey can do the job, its not so. The men and women working the streets everyday have earned their Ph'ds and its for that reason this city has not been lost to the savages and their accomplices, your local politician. Stay Safe, hold your head up, officers, and thank you on this day of thanksgiving. Its because of your service and your professionalism that this city can enjoy a day with friends and family, while you are out, in dangerously low numbers, keeping the city safe.
I remember 3 different incidents at the old PHS unit on state St., where idiots entered the station at the desk area, ARMED. circa 1980's
No worries. On Monday, our own Dickie Durbin will talk about the dangers of guns, and suggest making it a Federal offense for a convicted felon to walk into a police station armed with an automatic weapon...on a Federal holiday.
Your Gun is your best friend ,Practice Combat shooting
I hope someone takes this VERY seriously.
You're talking REAL firepower with an AR-15 and no one at any station is on "high alert" at their desk.
All of you are VERY, VERY, VERY lucky you dropped him before he dropped all of you.
All police stations should be secure with a bulletproof glass separating the front lobby and the actual police room (like the suburbs have in their stations).
It would have been a huge tragedy to read about how some mental came and shot up an entire police station.
BE THANKFUL this Thanksgiving, all of you at that station dodged a bullet.
If that was a trained terrorist - Chicago would have made national and international news.
As to the "people in charge" - wake up and assess the situation. You need to CHANGE things!
If you go to a suburban department, they have cameras in the lobby, have to get buzzed in, and the front desk has bullet proof glass... it is rediculous how open are stations are... even the newer station do not even have cameras by the front desk... now there is going to be civillians and 1 po in the station
did he have a FOID?
The desk is so low its unsafe.....its a tragedy waiting to happen. You can't see peoples hands or waists. I'm just thankful it all turned out the way it did. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
HEARD THAT ONE OF THE FRONT DESK WINDOWS GOT SHOT OUT IN 017 on midnights a few weeks back.... have not heard anything else about it... anyone hear anything else about it???
dont forget the fool who walked in at the desk in 003 pulled a gun and was shot by two coppers using the copy machine. 2007
When I was in high school a guy shot two coppers in the 006th district in 1975
Security isn't necessary at dem stations. The peoples and chillun have to have excess to the police and to the fireman. It goes along wit da flower pots. The open doors makes everybody know everything is alright. Rahm knows I was right.
rmd 2011
You mean our "trigger happy" officers didn't shoot first and ask questions later? THANK GOD no officers were killed. Truly something to be thankful for. I'm sure G-Mac will push to secure our stations after such a brazen incident. Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath. God Bless CPD.
Man the desks with short barreled 870's and fuck that civilian shit. Thank god those officers had the smarts to jump that motherfucker or we might be reading a whole bunch of different headlines. For those of you working today, stay safe and come home to your loved ones and some turkey.
install a buzzer at front door , install bullet proof glass around desk area , gun ports below bullet proof glass
That seems like an easy one to win if the FOP would grieve it under work conditions.
But who are we kidding?
Everybody should be angry and concerned over this incident! This should be a top cocern for the people over there at the FOP. They should file an immediate lawsuit against the city and police department to make sure these police station are secured and a safe working enviorment for our members! It should not take a incident like 011 for some action. FOP do not wait till another Detroit incident happens here before you take action on behalf of our members!Secure our police stations now!!!!!
Word is....5150 at Stroger being checked out...charges not filed yet.
"Overnight in 011, a subject walked into the 011th District Desk with a fully loaded AR-15 strapped to his chest and equipped with multiple magazines."
Holy Mother of God.
If he'd walked in using it, everyone woulda been gone.
Idiot.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
This, by the way, is the fruition, the full flowering of the "gun control" that began during the dynasty of Pharoah Daley I.
Just a little tan card...
dont worry, the city has already spun this as just being a weapons turn in. No mention of officers subduing him, fighting with him and him having several extra magazines on his person. I read breaking news about 7am and it said the man had been arrested in the station and walked in with a fully auto assault rifle. by noon the city must have called to tell them to change the story, it now reads as the man just walked into the district to turn in the rifle.. they completly downplay the story and end it by saying the officers called the subjects family because he seemed unbalanced. so the family showed up and took him to mt sinai for psych eval. The people and media need the real story. The officers involved should get a damn life saving award because this guy was intent on killing police officers last night. He said it several times and was insane. disaster averted, however the public never will know what the real story is or how close people came to being killed last night. completly terrifying just thinking about it. I cant stand how much this story was changed and downplayed by the city and media.. SCC MAKE THIS A PRIORITY PLEASE, THE REAL STORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD!!
was all bs, he turned in the weapon, did not point it at anyone and was not charged
heres the article from CLTV news
A man walked into a police station on the West Side with a fully loaded assault rifle and said he was turning it in, authorities said.
The 28-year-old man did not point the rifle at anyone when he entered the Harrison District station shortly before 4 a.m., authorities said. Police called the man's family because he seemed unstable and his family took him to Stroger Hospital for evaluation.
The gun was an AR-15 assault rifle and had a 30-round magazine that was fully loaded, authorities said.
Earlier, authorities indicated he had been arrested, but that information was not correct.
OT-savage turned himself in from you tube beating in subway. If a white man did that Jeesie, Farrakhan and the rest of the professional haters would be marching every day. Tribune buried the story on page 18.....
Off Topic...SCC, the location of the new 012th district station is an asbestos hazmat site! Apparently, the city's Public Building Commission failed to inform the company that is installing the new station's geothermal heating system that existing underground heating pipes contained asbestos. Now the workers have been exposed and the soil is contaminated (800 tons of which 300 have been hauled away). What brilliant people we have working at the PBC. This worries me very much since I work in 012 and drive around this area daily. The community has been exposed as well. Heck, there's a school across the street! Our existing station has asbestos and now I have to worry about our new station having it as well. I hope the FOP sounds off on this.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/chicago-12th-district-police-station-osha-asbestos-pipe-soil-contamination-danger-20111123
I don't know what kind of union protection these desk working civilians are going to have but they better make it a point to either request hazard pay or flat out refuse to work without some level of protection beside a boss hiding in the office. I'd suggest the latter!
Unlike most, if not all, suburban police stations our police stations are extremely soft targets. Our buildings need to appear warm and inviting to every nut and criminal out there. I forgot the department also would like to civilianize all of these woefully unsecure police stations. Brilliant huh?
I thought Cook County and Chicago were "assault weapon" free areas!
Thank God no one was hurt.
NEWS FLASH: Rahm don't give a fuck about you. McNutty don't give a shit.
To secure the station costs money. They want expendable TMA type cops that they can fire at will WITH no pensions. White guys and the non- clouted need not apply nor should you want to apply. They gave the city OVER to the shitheads , game over, Rham to shitheads. "You have won the war of attrition,we can't fight you anymore. Please don't kill all of us. These greedy ass coppers will suffer now and IPRA and the crony police board will fuck them. Now vote for me and Obumma."
But what about the homeless that need to stay warm?
Thank God no officers were hurt.
The closing of Area 4 and 5 will save millions of dollars.
How?
Starting Feb 1, absolutely NO Detective Division OT for extension of tour. This comes straight from City Hall. McCarthy has no say on it. The Areas have the manpower and the commanders will be expected to make this work. Robbery Dicks will be part of a District Team and will be expected to hand off jibs to the next shift.
Look for all Areas to go to two 10 hour watches in the new contract.
Rahm's administration is also working with Alvarez to
severely reduce court OT. One proposal is to only subpoena the officer for the time he is expected to testify. No more sitting in the library when the state is picking a jury.
After Feb 1 expect court subpeonas to vary from 0900 all the way to 1500 hours. Officers will have to submit a To/From report if they were in court and did not testify.
Rahm has figured out that almost 30% of the police budget is OT and more than half of that is coming from the D unit. The police budget is almost 80% of the entire city budget.
The changes will save hundreds of millions of tax dollars.
If its true its time for us to bring up station security at our roll calls. There could be things done watch by watch to secure our lobbies and parking lots. The city will not act until a Detriot style attack happens here. The response will be very limited just like it was with the south side police impersonator couple of years ago. Thor was murdered in an unsecured lot. We didn't pick up the ball and start filing grievances for unsafe foreeable conditions. The 001 district back in the early 2000s had a situation Guy pointed a gun at a desk officer, but gun misfired. Nothing was done. Suburban stations are usually secure, fortfied and not open to the public.
This happened!!! Or is this a joke?
I've always found it amazing that most police stations are as unsecured as my front lawn. Any nutcase can simply walk in and start blazing away before anyone can react. My hat is off to the quick thinking officers who defused this recent incident. It easily could have been a tragedy of immense proportions. When ISP District 4 moved from Crestwood to 83rd & King Drive, our desk area was behind ballistic glass with a locked access door. I think all police stations should have that level of security. Oh wait, the Mayor and other Chicago politicians don't value the lives of CPD coppers. What was I thinking.
Retired ISP
no guns aloud at the desk!only tasers!now move along!
Could have been ugly. Good job by the Desk Sergeant. 60 rounds from a .223 assault rifle would have made for a very, very bad holiday for a number of police families. Wounded or dead is a horrible way to end the day for the midnight crew. The guy changed his mind and didn't shoot the place up or commit suicide by cop, which it sounds like were his intentions. So Rahm, still think civilianizing the desk and lockup is a good idea? Let’s see, 3-4 police aides dead, a few sworn coppers also dead or injured when they respond. How's that lawsuit going to reduce you’re budget? When they sue the City and you personally for intentionally neglecting the health and safety of the employee, the taxpayers lose even more at your hands. Maybe you can find another tax to make up the loss, you puke. Emanuel you’re a dog, maybe this guys should have turned the gun into you, you probably would have sold it to the highest bidder. McCarthy you’re a pussy puppet to the politicians, go work in 011, I’m sure the coppers there would keep you safe, they’ve shown today that they can and will. Happy Thanksgiving to all the CPD, enjoy some time with your families and friends before going in to battle the beast.
Good job all. Be safe. United we stand divided we fall. Register to vote all. Lets send a message. Happy holidays all
Have to make a comment and am a po, not a boss. That desk crew owes their asses to the commander who was doing something behind the desk. He appears to be the only one initially returning fire and the only one that actually confronted the guy from like 3 feet before getting his fingers shot off. One guy let a few off in the direction of the badguy, but the rest ran for cover Could have or wopuld have been alot worse if the commander didnt stand his ground.
We all know that sooner or later someone will come into the station shooting. Daley knew it now Rahm knows it nothing will be changed because to Rahm our lives are nothing more than an oppurtunity to make a speech at a funeral. Keep your eyes open and beware copy cats.
We all know what is gonna happen now: nothing. When PO Soderberg was murdered by that savage there was about 2 months of concern for parking lot safety. This concern quickly evaporated because at the end of the day our department really doesn't care about the safety of the average officer. The city will spend millions to defend Ed Burke because of a threat made decades ago but even after the murder of PO Soderberg nothing has been done to materially improve safety at department facilities. Where is the FOP on this? It should be front and center but it isn't.
Is the media covering this. They should be. Also, FOP needs to jump on this and call the superintendent out on the lack of safety in the district stations. The rank and file have just been dealt an Ace. Use It!
Support the NRA!
Heh..you ain't seen nothing yet.
We have the governor closing down mental health facilities because the corporations like CME Group and Sears want tax breaks and there's no money to fund them.
These mentally ill people will end up on the streets and with the mayoral edict that the stations will be opened to house the homeless guess where they are going to end up?
They will be able to use this upcoming crisis for campaign photo's op's though so do not worry about the crisis going to waste.
We have much more to do! There are corporate capaign fund raisers to attend and the political apparatus needs to get their hands on that money. They earned it. After all those corporate tax breaks rewarding the corporations for destroying jobs, destroying the tax base, idling America. The American dream is now a nightmare -- enjoy the chaos.
Yeah, lets get rid of the desk crew and put all civilians on the desk. Again, anyone who has been around a while knows we have shooting incidents in district stations over the years. This could be a tragedy waiting to happen if we get rid of desk crews.
11/24/2011 09:52:00 AM
So now you want P.O.s on the desk because a tragedy could have occurred. Any other time or post you are against the "desk dollies" and "do nothing police" sitting on their asses collecting a paycheck. Either you want some cops working inside on the the desk or you don't. Not all desk cops are dogs.Please make up your mind or STFU!
A little while back, some lackies came to 18th & State to access security. Doors that don't close [much less lock], walls caving in [you know, the "100 year building" that ain't, wide open parking lots and windows as far as the eye can see.
John got grazed in the lobby shooting only a few years back. Things have not gotten more calm in the city or better in the city operated facilities.
Be assured, cops are going to die because of this BS, also be advised, NO BODY gives a shit.
Well as long as there are cameras in there to film the carnage it's all good. We can bring the perp's to justice later....maybe?
Remember right after 9-11 how America was gonna get its shit together and secure the border, go after terrorists, etc.? That was over 10 f-ing YEARS ago.
Move along, nothing to see.
Tribune is calling it a weapon turn in. I call MASSIVE BULL SHIT on this.
Everyone who has turned in a gun to me at the station is nervous, carried it in a bag or asked a PO to go the car to get it.
This is Rahm and Garry BS to keep their cuts in place.
The news article has changed to say the man was turning in a gun
Anonymous said...
was all bs, he turned in the weapon, did not point it at anyone and was not charged
11/24/2011 01:08:00 PM
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You're a jackass. It's supposed to be "BS", why cause he didnt shoot up the desk and kill the coppers? So, it's OK that a jagoff can just walk into a district with a fully loaded AR, so long as its a weaps turn in? get a fucking clue, cause you're as dangerous a cop as any other jag out there. It's this constantly flip attitude why nothing gets fixed.
OT:
Do you think that the corporations care about our little police district stations and their security?
I say the corporations have already spoken with there actions.
They want more tax breaks.
The corp's are writing our nations policies and laws right now in a manner that will benefit only them.
The corporations international budgets will soon exceed this nations budget and then who has concentration of power and along with it the rule?
What will be the purpose of holding elections be when the people are no longer being represented?
Think about it.
Just today: "India opens door to foreign supermarket chains" is the headlines..and WalMart is chomping at the bit to get in there. Over a billion customers in India
(Reuters) - India threw open its $450 billion retail market to global supermarket giants on Thursday, approving its biggest reform in years that may boost sorely needed investment in Asia's third-largest economy.
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Imagine the impact on US government this will have as corporations expand there reach globally and join the banks in the too big to fail cartels.
Corporations already own our puppet government today as they buy the policies they need via campaign contributions.
Now they are getting even bigger with more influence.
You have to wonder about the near future. The money these global corporations will have makes the nations borders meaningless. Make governments meaningless puppet shows because when push comes to shove it's all about the money -- not morality -- not the laws -- the corporations do not have to obey your laws.
Look around people. The pension agreements mean nothing. The collective bargaining agreements mean nothing. Land deeds mean nothing as banks are foreclosing on property that they are unable to provide the documentation for. Bank doc's are being submitted to the courts making a mockery out of the system because the doc's are forged and there is no one bring the banks to justice.
If the written words on contracts are meaningless what value does the US constitution have? It's just words on paper that the Government is either unwilling or unable to back up.
Channel 7 news now reporting that the guy walked into the station with the rifle and "declared martial law."
Sounds like a turn-in to me.
Has anyone considered...the idea of an armed sentry, someone on guard duty with a shotgun or M4 and available cover?
Uh...
We all know what is gonna happen now: nothing. When PO Soderberg was murdered by that savage there was about 2 months of concern for parking lot safety. This concern quickly evaporated because at the end of the day our department really doesn't care about the safety of the average officer. The city will spend millions to defend Ed Burke because of a threat made decades ago but even after the murder of PO Soderberg nothing has been done to materially improve safety at department facilities. Where is the FOP on this? It should be front and center but it isn't.
11/24/2011 03:28:00 PM
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Hey if someone gets shot don't worry. Burke will be there to hand out flyers afterwards warning people to "be vigilant" but continue to go about our daily business of shopping and spending money.
After all if we stop shopping and the transfer of wealth to the corporations and political apparatus then the terrorist have won...don't you know that?
Being someone who works the desk regularly I bet when I go in tonight our brainiac of a commander will have typed out a new in-station rule about us having to keep our vests hanging over our chairs. I mean what the hell is that going to do??? Uhhh, hold on psycho while I put my vest on, ahhh, there, that's better now u can kill me, I'm wearing my vest. That's the solution to everything. If a civilian would get killed by a psycho in a police station I bet the city would take action then but for us, huh, we're expendable. They'll say, hey, it ALLL part of your job, you are paid to be targets, these are the risks you signed up for when you took this job. And by the way, I DO pay attention to who is coming into the station and if it wasn't for the sound the revolving door makes it would be a lot harder to know when people come in, so in the spirit of the holiday, I guess I'm thankful for that much. Oh well I've got a few more years to go...I hope I make it out alive!
Thank you officers, job well done.
We have the governor closing down mental health facilities because the corporations like CME Group and Sears want tax breaks and there's no money to fund them.
These mentally ill people will end up on the streets and with the mayoral edict that the stations will be opened to house the homeless guess where they are going to end up?
They will be able to use this upcoming crisis for campaign photo's op's though so do not worry about the crisis going to waste.
We have much more to do! There are corporate capaign fund raisers to attend and the political apparatus needs to get their hands on that money. They earned it. After all those corporate tax breaks rewarding the corporations for destroying jobs, destroying the tax base, idling America. The American dream is now a nightmare -- enjoy the chaos.
----- will you please leave this site, Mr. OWS troll-------
OT --
Power outage for over 2,500 people in Bryn Mawr/Kimball area caused by one of those silvery Mylar "heart" balloons short-circuiting power lines! Real good shot of the fried remains draped over the wires.
I never realized those things were CONDUCTIVE. Have seen plenty of them drifting around...
Any time linemen have to go up and work, it is a dangerous job. Should not have to do this over some two-cent silly piece of plastic. A little responsibility, a voluntary sales ban on these in the city too much to ask for? Hazard to infrastructure. Balloons are fine, just not these particular ones.
New 012th District has over 800 TONS of asbestos!!!!!
FOX / Channel 32's Larry Yellen reports:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com
/dpp/news/metro/chicago-
12th-district-police-
station-osha-asbestos-
pipe-soil-contamination
-danger-20111123
11/24/2011 09:10:00 AM
The old station on Monroe/Racine itself has about this muck asbestos currently in the basement.
Tribune is calling it a weapon turn in. I call MASSIVE BULL SHIT on this.
11/24/2011 04:13:00 PM
Agreed. A gun turn in at 4am? Hallucinations after a crack binge or several days off the psychotropic meds is more like it.
What worries me more than what could have happened is how the media proves they are bought and paid for by the way they are spinning this story.
---not a cop
Yeah weapon turn in beginning with the words " I declare martial law" nice try ivory tower we from 011 don't play your bullshit spinning games. Cause Sgt Mur... don't play that (cause he be a crazy white debel )
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You know it would be a big deal if it happened at an alderscums office ~ now that would make the news!
This is a classic spin by Rahm and his puppet McNutty.
The media needs to see right through this and report the story accurately. A nut comes in CARRYING a fully loaded AR-15 and the powers that be are basically shrugging their shoulders and talking double talk.
No doubt in my mind eventually these assholes will have blood on their hands.
010th district desk looks like a maternity ward.no uniforms,stretchy pants,no cuffs,no duty weapon,gym shoes,no identifiers or badges.
What part of, Your Democommunist hack bosses and their polititician puppetmasters don' t GIVE a fuck about you. Blue Flu, walk out, do something, or they never will. Never have, never will. They're just obstructionists.
What about concealed carry.....how do we plan on dealing with this?
How about a Watch Commander with some balls!! Throw these piss bums out of the lobby. They smell like shit and carry a load of disease. I do not want to be exposed to this when I come to work. I have two little ones at home. I also don't want to have to kill roaches in the lobby anymore. Mr. Superintendent please speak with the Mayor and let him know what a health hazard this is.
Be safe people, and to the goof who posted at "08:49:00 AM" what does President Obama have to do with this?? Stay focused on the topic!
http://www.suntimes.com/9049160-417/man-hospitalized-after-entering-police-station-armed-with-loaded-assault-rifle.html
and the media cover-up begins!!!!!
the spin is in...dude was just 'turning in' the assault rifle he fount according to what the 5th floor has instructed the media whores to report. no mention of the supposed other loaded mags on his person either.
CAN ANYONE INVOLVED/ON SCENE PLEASE CHIME IN AND LET US ALL KNOW WHAT THE F*&^ EXACTLY HAPPENED??? irregardless, a bonafide mentally unstable person walked into a wide open police station with an assault rifle and tons of ammo. that he didnt kill a bunch of cops is due to sheer luck and a couple quick thinking and brave officers.
BOTTOM LINE......that desk and just about every other district desk in the city is a tragedy waiting to happen. Tiny Dancer and the 50 whores have $$$$ for kayak stations, bike lanes, big company bailouts, revamped el stations, all with a security camera now according to Clayfool, hundreds of new cta train cars on order at 30 mil a pop, etc, etc...BUT NO CASH FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO KEEP THEM SAFE IN THEIR OWN PLACE OF BUSINESS...FUCKING DISGUSTING!!!! 5B is gonna be my first choice, Ill get something back from this piece of shit city one way or the other. I CANT WAIT TIL ALL THIS SHIT BACKFIRES ON THESE PRICKS COME G8/NATO
To the idiot who is very poor at math and cannot read a fucking budget: here are the numbers you public school educated fuck. The CPD budget is just over 1 billion dollars. The city budget as a whole is 6.3 billion. How does that equate to 80% of the budget. Second the CPD has budgeted 27 million for overtime in 2012. According ot my math that is less that 3% of the CPD budget. In stead of wasting your time writing bull shit on this blog go look it up. That GED u have aint worth a shit.
Well as long as there are cameras in there to film the carnage it's all good. We can bring the perp's to justice later....maybe?
11/24/2011 04:08:00 PM
PERP'S Hey asshole this isn't fucking New York!
OT: Maggie Daley passed away around 7:00 pm condolence to the family members.
Since the city could care less about our safety anyone who is carbine trained working the desk should have a riffle loaded and near by.
Refuse to go into, or work in, all front Desk areas, until something is done, like metal detectors for civilian entry. Just do it and force the politicians to do something. They can waste millions on flower planters and rooftop gardens, politician showers in City Hall, 24/7 police bodyguards for our Communist Ex-Mayor, but cant spend a dime on protecting the City's Police Officers...
One proposal is to only subpoena the officer for the time he is expected to testify. No more sitting in the library when the state is picking a jury.
That's a great idea! I just got a notification for 26th that I had absolutely nothing to do with, Really don't feel like hanging around down there on my RDO, thanks.
Where did he get an assault rifle. They are illegal!
11/24/2011 10:12:00 AM
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He fount it.
Anonymous said...
Well as long as there are cameras in there to film the carnage it's all good. We can bring the perp's to justice later....maybe?
11/24/2011 04:08:00 PM
PERP'S Hey asshole this isn't fucking New York!
11/24/2011 08:47:00 PM
Yeah, Perps, WTF, you watch too much Commie-toons Television. I think that YOU might be a "Perp' aka. a "perp"etual Ass-Clowny.
just shows how much the city cares about your safety. you are disposable. not a police employee.
The sad thing is that this current crop of bosses, including but not limited to the Superintendent, are not approaching this issue from a purely "police security" perspective. They are more concerned about the political ramifications of what they do and how the Department is perceived by the voting public. Anyone who's been on this job for a while understands the need to have sworn personnel on the desk at all times. Allowing civilians to take on these positions potentially puts the entire facility at risk. Hopefully no one sworn will ever be injured or worse, but this IS Chicago and we've seen bizarre occurances over the years that resulted in trajedy that could have been avoided. Even after the incident nothing usually changes.
Off topic will webber lose all her city contracts now
Anonymous said...
HEARD THAT ONE OF THE FRONT DESK WINDOWS GOT SHOT OUT IN 017 on midnights a few weeks back.... have not heard anything else about it... anyone hear anything else about it???
11/24/2011 11:46:00 AM
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Weapons inspection Wednesdays with the LT.?
Highlights:
Squad Attention....Dress right dress... ready front.. cover down and prepare for weapons inspection....inspect weapons,,, BANG!
"Where did he get an assault rifle. They are illegal!"
--11/24/2011 10:12:00 AM
"He found it."
--11/24/2011 09:33:00 PM
Oh, oh.
Stupid motherf**er laying around with a bottle happened to see where the corner boys kept their serious heat.
Dead man walkin'.
Dead man walkin'.
Most of the suburban police stations have ballistic glass that separates the officers from the public. That's the only way to go. Other wise officers are sitting ducks.
That's a great idea! I just got a notification for 26th that I had absolutely nothing to do with, Really don't feel like hanging around down there on my RDO, thanks.
You had "nothing to do with" doesnt work anymore. If your on the paper then you are knee deep. Dont believe me?? Maybe as a few former SOS guys who were on the paper but "had nothing to do with it" have to say. If your on the paper, then you were there.. You participated in one way or another and you must appear in court. stop barking you frightened little dog. Nothing to be scared about going to court... wayyyyy too many people nowadays are terrified to go to court and testify. why?? It looks ten times worse when you DONT go to court.. Unfortunatly some of the idiots on this job think that if you dont go to court it just all goes away... Oh no, it doesnt go away, it just comes right back to get you a year or two later in federal court... aaahahahaahahahah, I love being so damn negative!!! ahahahahahaha
"Just today: "India opens door to foreign supermarket chains" is the headlines..and WalMart is chomping at the bit to get in there. Over a billion customers in India
"(Reuters) - India threw open its $450 billion retail market to global supermarket giants on Thursday, approving its biggest reform in years that may boost sorely needed investment in Asia's third-largest economy."
--11/24/2011 04:37:00 PM
..and as the TV reportage mentioned, there go millions of small subsistence businesses. No matter -- they can move off the land into a city slum and be Wal-Mart greeters for a few rupees an hour...
I believe that even the person who was going to sign off on eliminating sworn full duty police officers from the front desk, said maybe mr. Benn,was right, we need two armed full duty police officers at the desk.God bless.
Anonymous said...
Be safe people, and to the goof who posted at "08:49:00 AM" what does President Obama have to do with this?? Stay focused on the topic!
11/24/2011 07:51:00
You're the goof! The reason the issue is blurred is because someone connected the president to a station built over thirty years ago. You stay focused.
Wow....fast forward one month....guess what outcome is when nothing but former traffic aids working desk with on bonding officer writing bonds.... Unfortunately nothing will change cause all the bosses are idiots. After all they are setting us all up for a massacre in May!
I went in recently to the Bank of America branch on LaSalle; all new bullet resistant glass. Looks like it's a foot thick. The police stations should have some type of barrier but then again the city is supposedly broke. Good luck guys and gals.
why is this asshole still alive??? OH YEA,,, most of the time the desk crew only has a snub nose in their pocket.... would of taken to long to find their gun
Wait.
Didn't J-Fed have the Secret Service do a security survey?
Didn't J-Fed enact these recommendations?
"How about taking those little 380's off the desk crew and making them carry their duty weapons in case of this type of nonsense? I've seen numerous desk folks carrying these mouse guns."
At these ranges (the size of a police station lobby) is doesn't matter what they carry.
Shot placement. Shot placement. Shot placement.
"There are too many mentals hanging around the stations now! The city needs to stop using lobbies as shelters and get these people the help they need!"
Aww mannn...that's no way to talk about the watch commander!
I only watch Fox News Channel, it's the funniest shit on TV.
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Yeah, Perps, WTF, you watch too much Commie-toons Television. I think that YOU might be a "Perp' aka. a "perp"etual Ass-Clowny.
To the idiot who questioned the use of NYPD slang here in Chicago,see earlier comments, I just received a memo that all such language is now appropriate.
Also the Superintendent will now be referred to as the Commissioner and Districts will now be referred to as Precincts.
Also two individuals in each precinct will now be delegated to fixing tickets as a courtesy to friends, close relatives--to include fifth cousins, neighbors, political hacks, the guy you met at the bar, the street cart vendor who gives you free pastrami and rye "sanwiches", reverends, rabbis etc.
Any departmental regulations regarding firing your weapon while in an inebriated state at street lights will not be referred to as "regulations". Either the word "hint" or "suggestion" shall be used.
Also any arrests of off duty Chicago Police departmental personnel by other local law enforcement agencies over disputes regarding family members receiving tickets will not be considered an "arrest".
"Misunderstanding" will be the word used and "unprofessional" shall be the word used to refer to the agency that made the non-arrest.
Now if you will excuse me I have some skels I need to catch after I shoot out some glowing orbs that hang on poles.
"The changes will save hundreds of millions of tax dollars."
That Rahm will blow elsewhere to
a) help cement BHO's re-election and
b) put Rahm in a positive light in his continued quest for glory
Little wonder the rest of the state wants to eject Chicago/Crook County.
Yes, Rahm still thinks civilianizing the desk is a good idea.
They're cheaper to replace.
"What about concealed carry.....how do we plan on dealing with this?"
The same way they do in the "Lower 49".
there was a desk sergeant in 017 who didnt even wear his gun at the desk.
Before commanders freak out and order that desk personnel wear vests, please consider the fact that OUR VEST WON'T STOP AN AR15. The solution is bullet resistant glass inside and a secure vestibule accessed by buzzer door outside.
was all bs, he turned in the weapon, did not point it at anyone and was not charged
11/24/2011 01:08:00 PM
W/ three extra mags, one in the chamber and safety off? Guy yelling about declaring Marshall law?
Sure he was crazy. You'd have to be crazy to shoot up a Police Station.
You are either a poor police officer or a Rahm troll.
1/3 of the court bldgs we have to go to, make you give up your gun. thats bullshit. times have changed and the order fromt he chief judge dated 1987 needs to go. now think about the new stations too, youre unarmed while you process your prisoner, back and fourth to the desk several times with no gun. is it really going to take an officer or multiple officers getting hurt or killed for somebody to do something. does our fop want to step up and draw some attention to this?
This isn't 1950 anymore. This is a time where we are dealing with much different threats. The day will come when suicide bombers are entering police stations and detonating. A trained individual can easily dispatch 5 desk officers in less than 5 seconds. That is less time than it takes an officer on that desk to react, get on target, on trigger, and eliminate the threat. Its time somebody wakes the hell up and secures these stations.
Anonymous said...
010th district desk looks like a maternity ward.no uniforms,stretchy pants,no cuffs,no duty weapon,gym shoes,no identifiers or badges.
11/24/2011 06:38:00 PM
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Umm...1) Go fuck yourself.
2) Are you sure you visited the 010th District in Chicago?
3) Go fuck yourself again.
03:13 not sure the bullet resistant glass is the answer. That also is not made to stop an AR15 round. Maybe will stop the first one, but will then crack and break
By the way, Happy Thanksgiving everyone. And to all the officers working today, there ARE people who think like you, worry about you and appreciate what you do.
---not a cop
11/24/2011 07:53:00 AM
One can do major damage to a police station and those there in up to a distance of 100 yards.
You are not safe.
You are sitting ducks.
Especially at Shift Change.
Just a matter of time until someone realizes this and does the inevitable.
Scared?
You NEED to be.
11:22 Agree with you, if your on the paper be prepared to go to court. If you had nothing to do with the arrest, then why is your name on the paper. If your not prepared to go to court, dont make the arrest.
As far as just sitting there, not bad getting paid time and a half for sitting there
One other comment is the reason more guys than needed are called for the same day is that the ASA and defense attorney dont know how long a witness will be on the stand and if there isnt another witness waiting in the wings, the judge gets upset. Not right, but if you have been on the job anytime, make arrests and have been in court, you would know the judge runs his courtroom. This is Cook County and that is a simple FACT Once again not right, but you or nobody else is going to change that, so relax and live with it
Simple solution to keep ASA's from requesting all officers on an arrest report to appear in court.
Have the ASA put CPD overtime in their budget. Technically they are ordering the po's to court, so the ASA office should have that OT in their budget. Believe me, if that happened, they would read over all the reports to see who was involved and who was necessary to appear in court. Now it doesnt matter to them because they arent footing the bill
Bet Rahm wouldnt mind having the court OT being switched from the city or CPD budget to the ASA or County budget.
One proposal is to only subpoena the officer for the time he is expected to testify. No more sitting in the library when the state is picking a jury.
That's a great idea! I just got a notification for 26th that I had absolutely nothing to do with, Really don't feel like hanging around down there on my RDO, thanks.
11/24/2011 09:11:00 PM
Personality pauly said...
That's a great idea! I just got a notification for 26th that I had absolutely nothing to do with, Really don't feel like hanging around down there on my RDO, thanks.
You had "nothing to do with" doesnt work anymore. If your on the paper then you are knee deep. Dont believe me?? Maybe as a few former SOS guys who were on the paper but "had nothing to do with it" have to say. If your on the paper, then you were there.. You participated in one way or another and you must appear in court. stop barking you frightened little dog. Nothing to be scared about going to court... wayyyyy too many people nowadays are terrified to go to court and testify. why?? It looks ten times worse when you DONT go to court.. Unfortunatly some of the idiots on this job think that if you dont go to court it just all goes away... Oh no, it doesnt go away, it just comes right back to get you a year or two later in federal court... aaahahahaahahahah, I love being so damn negative!!! ahahahahahaha
11/24/2011 11:22:00 PM
Wow. Can you even fucking read?
The closing of Area 4 and 5 will save millions of dollars.
How?
Starting Feb 1, absolutely NO Detective Division OT for extension of tour. This comes straight from City Hall. McCarthy has no say on it. The Areas have the manpower and the commanders will be expected to make this work. Robbery Dicks will be part of a District Team and will be expected to hand off jibs to the next shift.
Look for all Areas to go to two 10 hour watches in the new contract.
Rahm's administration is also working with Alvarez to
severely reduce court OT. One proposal is to only subpoena the officer for the time he is expected to testify. No more sitting in the library when the state is picking a jury.
After Feb 1 expect court subpeonas to vary from 0900 all the way to 1500 hours. Officers will have to submit a To/From report if they were in court and did not testify.
Rahm has figured out that almost 30% of the police budget is OT and more than half of that is coming from the D unit. The police budget is almost 80% of the entire city budget.
The changes will save hundreds of millions of tax dollars
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STOP making shit up cause you didn't make Dick or couldn't pass the test! They tried all that stuff before and it all fell on the ASA'S face! The ASA or Cook County State's Attorney hates us and doesn't care what it costs to get a conviction! She is not about saving money for the City of Chicago. She is about HER!!!! Also by handing of investigaitons to another Detecitive they have to show up as well to court. Again they tried that before and it fell right on there face again cause cases were getting fucked up! Also where did you go to school with the math. CPD's budget is or was 1.2 billion. Where does 20-40 (at its highest) million equal 30% of 1.3 billion? 30% is over 300 million! SHUT the fuck up you goof!!!!! We don't need this crap when this Department is about to become NYPD
Yeah weapon turn in beginning with the words " I declare martial law" nice try ivory tower we from 011 don't play your bullshit spinning games. Cause Sgt Mur... don't play that (cause he be a crazy white debel )
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11/24/2011 05:28:00 PM
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No...it was Marshal law I think.
Off topic will webber lose all her city contracts now
11/24/2011 10:06:00 PM
Why would she? Richard Mell is quite hale and hearty.
OT --
Power outage for over 2,500 people in Bryn Mawr/Kimball area caused by one of those silvery Mylar "heart" balloons short-circuiting power lines! Real good shot of the fried remains draped over the wires.
I never realized those things were CONDUCTIVE. Have seen plenty of them drifting around...
Any time linemen have to go up and work, it is a dangerous job. Should not have to do this over some two-cent silly piece of plastic. A little responsibility, a voluntary sales ban on these in the city too much to ask for? Hazard to infrastructure. Balloons are fine, just not these particular ones.
11/24/2011 05:10:00 PM
Oh, yes, let's legislate balloons!
And ban squirrels, too, because they're usually the cause of those power outages, when they get into the boxes. BAN SQUIRRELS NOW!
Well as long as there are cameras in there to film the carnage it's all good. We can bring the perp's to justice later....maybe?
11/24/2011 04:08:00 PM
Yeah, 'the perps'. Go back to New Yawk.
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