Thanks For Not Shooting?
This woman is doing exactly that in Uptown:
I have lived in Uptown since the mid eighties. It is different now. Back then it was a bonified ghetto, with burnt out buildings, drunks to step over on the sidewalk and children of drug addicts playing on the streets in rags. Over the years it has changed. Like much of the North side of Chicago it has been gentrified. Starbucks and Borders, condos and a Target. Only there are still gangs.
[...] The Black P Stones are a few blocks away on Magnolia, and they battle the Uptown Vice Lords who live on our street. In the summer the Vice Lords hang out near our building, behind the school. I hate that they are selling drugs, I hate that their leaders send younger members like so much cannon fodder to kill one another. Lives ruined, mothers crying for dead children. Gangs are easy to hate. It is easy to see the insanity of what they do.
But this woman isn't hating them. She's teaching her kid to respect them:
In the summer my family walks to where the P Stones hang, a park across the street from Starbucks that has a big water fountain. They are there with their families. The dads play basketball and the kids play with my kids in the water. The adults get a kick out of Jude, my big autistic son flapping and laughing in the water, and Eden, my eight year old, runs around with the other kids. Once one of the men made a joke about Eden’s bright red hair, and he scowled at the group of men, not wanting to be singled out.
I brought Eden over and had him apologize. These members of the P Stone nation were incredulous, this lady making her kid apologize to them. “Just trying to teach him to be respectful,” I explained. Not because they were P Stones, or because this was their park. Because they were humans, people, who God loves and have mothers and children and matter. How am I going to teach my son that the homeless man on the corner matters if I deny the humanity of someone in a white tshirt? I didn’t say that. Mr. P Stone smiled at me, and nodded respect to my husband.
Respect? Highly doubtful unless your husband was packing a pistol or a something. And then she's thanking them for not shooting her husband, even though they just shot at least one person on her block:
- Uptown is my home, just like the guy with the white tshirt at the park. Just like him I have sin, and a mother who loves me, and I need some direction, somehow to make sense of this sinful, broken world. Merry Christmas, Mr. P Stone. Thanks for not shooting my husband, and try to stay safe. Hope to see you next summer at the park. God loves you, and I am guessing your mother does, too. Take care.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
75 Comments:
Whatever happened to the Uptown Rebels?
Thanks for not shooting my husband...yet.
"Like much of the North side of Chicago it has been gentrified. Starbucks and Borders, condos and a Target. Only there are still gangs."
Yeah, you see this in many areas, nice new Walgreens, etc. at 72/Jeffrey where 3 more people just got shot.
They somehow think that changing the backdrops will change the actors. Don't work.
This not only sounds like the liberals that live in 023, but also sounds like some of the PO's that work there. They wont get it until they become victimized, maybe then and just maybe will they see the light. Glad Im on the down slide !
There should be no surprise of the gang members being respected.
By the city politicians, and your bosses giving them a platform from which to speak, by the political apparatus giving them deals and like making sure the pod cams that look over them are broken and remain broken we know through the broken windows crime methodology that these gang members are leaders of the community -- that the politicians look up to. If you need something done in your hood go see your local gang member and have them get in touch with your alderman or local state lawmakers.
Why should it be a surprise? They have "professional courtesy"
The kicker is that she "hopes to see him there again next year." I'm sure you will, or one just like him. The thing is that you or a member of your family may not be there next year thanks to a stray bullet or some other violent crime that you are a victim of. The "adult" piece of human waste makes fun of your child's hair and you make your child apologize to him? I wonder if she teaches her children to respect Police Officers or does she teach them that the Police are bad people who do bad things to innocent minorities? Enjoy your diversity...otherwise known as ghetto culture. What's that? You were robbed and beaten? Here's your report.
This is just too much!
"This town needs an enema!"
Even my sarcasm is muted by this display of willful ignorance.
Her article is so full of BS. Was
this a night school creative writing assignment?
SCC: "Man is an animal - a thinking animal - and will exploit other men to that end 999 times out of 1,000."
Dear SCC: I tend to agree with you nearly 100% on most issues, but on this one, you lost me. Yes, man is a thinking animal, but you fail to mention than man is also the only animal with a Soul--an eternal spark of God within him or her--that lives forever. Man is NOT a dual being (body and mind), as you imply, but a triad: body, mind and Soul. When the divine impulses of the Soul are ignored, this is where the problem arises, because a body and mind without the spiritual impulse does indeed act like a God-less, selfish creature who will gladly take advantage of another at every opportunity.
For many people, especially gang bangers, they consciously choose to silence any impulse of goodness from their Soul, and thus, they
make one senseless, selfish, evil choice after another. These sins will be added to their karmic load, and one day, in this life or another, they will have to pay for every single sin, "to the utmost farthing," because it IS true that "as ye sow, so shall you surely reap."
Yes, gang bangers should not be "thanked" for not shooting us. They should be arrested, tried, and kept in prison for the
dangerous people they are, people who choose to engage in sin to the extent that they are not worthy of living in the same society with us. But please, SCC, do not refer to the rest of us also, as "thinking animals" who would likely take advantage of our fellow human beings 999 times out of a thousand. That rule applies to those who choose to ignore their Conscience (the Voice of the Soul), and certainly not to many good people who read your blog every day.
stupid yuppie.good luck with that.
She also voted for Obama, Rahm, and Durrbin. I'd bet she even lived in Oak Park at one point, and she sympathizes with the Occupy protesters.
Urban Pioneer who will probably say her Kid got in the way of the P Stones Man pistol when he takes a bullet in the temple.
If she lived in alaska she would be thanking the bears and wolves ....... and maybe they would not eat her ...... that time.
SCC, your label, "un-fucking-believable", is more than appropriate. Talking about Stockholm Syndrome . . . or something, this poor woman has apparently lost touch with reality. I would be willing to wager, regardless of her emotional statements about others this POS or his crew might have harmed, along with her "appreciation" that he did not shoot her husband, if the situation were different and members of her family were actually violently assaulted or killed by some gangbangers, you know she wouldn't be spouting this crap. I pity this lady. While I, as many of us, believe in redemption, forgiveness, and the love and power of God, this example of over the top "guilt" is sickening. Fear sometimes tends to bring out unexpected and even irrational behavior in some people.
I'm a believing Christian, but I do not see anywhere in Christian thought where being naive is equated with being kind. These people forget that with mercy also comes judgement. Well, let's see how loving and forgiving she is if, God forbid, that violence strikes home personally.
Instead of being the authentic good Christian and taking these gang bangers to task, she is only enabling them.
She is doing nothing to end the problems in that little part of Chicago.
By the way, some of these shitheads decide to operate in that section of Chicago because there are so many "Rebeccas" out there who naively protect them base from the police based on their ignorance of how bad these people are. These "Rebeccas" are clueless!
Oh My freakin ' God ... I think I just got cancer
Thats funny? In Edison Park we point our guns at these types and make them lie on the ground on their stomachs like the reptiles they are. And it works!
A WALKING RD NUMBER.
Sounds like she'd fit right in as a contributing editor at the Scum Times.
This City is so,so,so,screwed.
At the root of a lot of liberal delusion is a pathological need to be loved and accepted.
One way they accomplish this is to make themselves the 'well meaning' ethnic outlier in sociologically awkward situations, so, yes... You will encounter flaming leftists walking up to gang bangers and for no reason, out of the blue, bringing them bags of McDonalds. The narrative they build up in their minds is that they're doing this on the basis of common humanity, on 'reaching out' but really, it's just their own personal need for validation that can be much more easily achieved in circumstances like being a well meaning white teacher in an abysmal ghetto school...
Of course, they eventually learn the hard way but in the meantime, ujntil the inevitable occurs, they can hold out hope that their Pollyannaish ideals on life aren't utter bullshit.
I'm speechless.
Did I miss something? Who apologized to who?
Maybe she should ask them to house-sit for her when she goes out of town?
Liberals, gotta love 'em, not.
"UPTOWN", I hear Oak Park is building an embassy there...
C'Mon Man!"
She's one of the Jesus People. A hippie commune that's a carryover from the 70's. They're just as big a blight on Uptown as the gangs and homeless.
Since Shiller is out, they have been much less relevant but this hippie drum circle lovefest shit is a tell tale sign.
Either she is a junkie who buys her shit from Mr P Stone, or this is a cop with a really good sense of humor
Finally someone put the Liberal Yuppie Manifesto to ink!
When the alderman took down the basketball rims at the park this goof refers to a f/2/30's was all bent. "Where are these boys gonna play?" I said, "Boys, these gang bangers are to old to be in the park and would use your child as a human shield", I then recommended the rims at near by grammer school. She relied," now you know officer they cant go over there, the P Stone?" to which I relied, " that's their problem, not mine". She looked at me with such disquest it was wonderful. You asked for the savage, you fight for the savage, you can dodge bullets with the savage lady.
Fucking retarded Obama-Emmanuel voter, Occupy member, CR maker, criminal apologist.
Does anybody really wonder why this country is swirling around the bowl.
The politically correct bullshit that began in the 90s has developed into all this shit.
Fuck me.
Uptown hasn't been the same since they wrapped filming on "Deliverance"
This is just too much!
"This town needs an enema!"
And, his name was Daley. A Coke enema...Brahahahaha
Welcome to Uptown, the armpit of the north side. Nothing in this story surprises me with the liberal "urban pioneers" that live there.
There are wolves, and there are sheep, and she is of the latter.
Me, I'm a sheepdog, I'll try to protect her as best as possible, but if she decides to walk amongst the wolves I can't provided safety anymore.
Idiot. But she may not be an idiot liberal. She may be one of the idiot Jesus People who still live in Uptown and prostelyize to the Section 8ers, sex offenders, hypes, crackheads and other assorted urban detrius that live in the People's Paradise created by the unlamented Alderman Shiller.
That neighborhood was better when it was full of hillbillies and Indians who only emerged from their drunken stupors long enough to engage in the occasional knife fight.
"Bonified" dipshit.
If reading the article made you sick, reading the comments will definitely KILL you!
She overheard someone talking about how her husband helped the one who got shot? Sounds like they now have him marked for taking sides, and it's only a matter of time b4 they go after him. The family should move today. Get out of Dodge sooner rather than after it's too late.
... If you need something done in your hood go see your local gang member and have them get in touch with your alderman or local state lawmakers.
Why should it be a surprise? They have "professional courtesy"
12/16/2011 12:45:00 AM
HAAAAAAA!
You win it, hand's down, brother.
Good Lord, that's like walking up to a well-fed lion and thanking it for not eating you! Some people just don't get it!
ECS
Just puked!!
Lady go be a victim, but please don't put your kids in this crap...to me this is child abuse!!! Your husband is just to dumb to fix!!!! God help these kids!!!!
Another "outsider" boss gets sissified & begs the bangers to behave !!!
Oy Vey !!!!
After the news of the arrest of Sam Hurd, I see no difference between this clueless moron and the simpletons who spend their hard earned dollars on Bulls or Bears tickets. The idol worshipping of blatant gang representation is a part of every interview of these scumbags. How soon before Derrick Rose is shot, shoots or homeinvaded? How long before the dots are connected to Sam Hurds customers? If you sleep with dogs you're going to get fleas and the Bears ans Bulls lockerrooms are dogpounds.
I'm a believing Christian, but I do not see anywhere in Christian thought where being naive is equated with being kind. These people forget that with mercy also comes judgement. Well, let's see how loving and forgiving she is if, God forbid, that violence strikes home personally.
Instead of being the authentic good Christian and taking these gang bangers to task, she is only enabling them.
She is doing nothing to end the problems in that little part of Chicago.
By the way, some of these shitheads decide to operate in that section of Chicago because there are so many "Rebeccas" out there who naively protect them base from the police based on their ignorance of how bad these people are. These "Rebeccas" are clueless!
12/16/2011 04:36:00 AM
"Instead of being the authentic good Christian and taking these gang bangers to task"? Now I'm not for letting them off the hook and saying oh he's really a good boy deep down inside but what are you talking about? The cornerstone of the Christian faith is forgiveness. That's what the cross is about. The Bible even links your own forgiveness with your forgiveness of others. Now you don't have to believe it but you should hold up on running off at the mouth on your Christian faith but not mentioning anything that seems remotely close to the doctrine. There are some hardcharging coppers and servicemembers that love God and are the real deal Christians and while it's a tough line to walk...they're out there. It don't appear that you're one of them based on your comments but that's your choice not mine.
WOW! Are there more idiots like this in Uptown? If so, I'm moving to Uptown! I'm changing my party affiation to (D), and running for Alderman. How easy is it? Shower these dumb yuppies with rainbows and puppy dogs. Re-instate CopWatch to help the dealers. I'll be in like Flynn..... I'll get my $1,000,000 shlush fund, my end of the dope trade. Damn. Can't wait. hehehehehe
I tend to believe she's under the impression her act will spare her family a stay bullet. They won't go out of thier way to prevent that stay bullet. To deliberately raise your family in a gang infested neighborhood should be criminal. Your child might pay the price for your blinded liberal bullshit.
Well then, maybe she should come on over to 53rd and Laflin and meet some of Mr P Stones friends and remind her of the terrorist acts of the gangs founder who is sitting in Supermax Federal pen.....
What a blockhead...
The author is a Jesus freak and bible thumper. Those people are in a world of their own. I'm not surprised by her beliefs in humanity. I just don't share them.
This is enough. I'm done. If you officers on the street want to be respected by the normal people that are trying to live their lives in spite of the scumbags mentioned in the story you have to grow some big balls and get to work.
You need to distance yourself from the COs that embrace the gang assholes. Not through the union with press releases that are USELESS to people like me but publicly. Some are going to take a hit but we want to know you're not on the side of scum like your so called commanders. If they want to legitimize the gang assholes then without speaking out against it YOU are too. If that happens why would I help you with anything? For all I know you're the one in the back pocket of Pepe or Tyrone down the street. After all, they're a legit force in the city being shows respect but those other "respectable people.
If you want to show us GOOD citizens that enjoy the protection you afford us and gladly help when something worthwhile happens (e.g. NOT some gangbanger ass getting what he deserved) get the balls to show us you're on our side.
As it stands all we see is the department becoming a joke and a pawn of the gangs and not a resource for the people trying to live a normal life in this declining city.
The writer of that piece is a longtime member of Jesus People USA.
JPUSA is an "Intentional Community" of generally left of center hippie, dippie, zippie leanings. Sorry, as I paraphrase George Carlin.
They live together in essentially a vertical commune on Wilson. They call it the "Friendly Tower". Their male members are generally easy to spot because of their hirsute appearance and vacant looks.
Like true believers of any variety, left or right, they are self righteous and a general pain in the ass. Just their name says it all. They are the "Jesus People".
Which means the rest of us are by definition the "Non-Jesus" People. I personally am the lapsed Catholic with a bad moon rising type of "people".
JPUSA owns a variety of local businesses, yet structures their profits and pay in such a way that their members have to seek medical and dental care at free clinics or the public dime.
They have been deeply involved in local politics during their tenure in Uptown.
Here are some pics I took of two of their buildings on Wilson just before the 2007 election.
Currently, in between saving souls and seeking free health care, some members of JPUSA have been posting on the Uptown Update Facebook page and blog. They generally suggest the former alderman, Shiller, was much better than the current alderman, Cappleman. It's almost as if the recent shootings in Uptown are a unique phenomena in our recent history.
JPUSA supported opponents to Cappleman in the last elections.
Those of you who want to annoy yourselves can google "JPUSA" for some stories out there. The Tribune did a series some years back on our wacky friends on Wilson.
Perhaps some of the cops who work this district can share some stories about the "Cornerstone" Shelter JPUSA runs on "Blood Alley".
I'm just a civilian who lives nearby and loves to annoy my JPUSA betters. After all, they are the "Jesus People". I'm just the "Guinness Guy".
Take care guys, stay safe and dare I say "God Bless".
A group of "men" are making fun of her kid, and she sends the kid over to apologize for getting upset??????
This women has truly lost her fucking mind. She has detached herself from reality. I read that blog entry last night and there are others fools in the comment section who have been overtaken with white guilt praising her.
Further in the article she says while in the back yard a jettisoned "juice box" flys in over her back yard fence from the alley and hits her kid in the head. She then storms out into the alley to find a group of stones and confronts them about the juice box, they deny doing it but then promise to find the culprit. This dumb fuck refuses the offer because the thought of the men beating up an 8 yr old scared her. She then walks away and hears the gangsters admiring her courage and tattoos. What the fuck?
This is what happens when you grow up in the suburbs and you to move to the city when you became a big boy/girl because you want to tell everyone how edgy you are. These people are fucking stupid. Thank god they are drawn to shitholes like uptown away from me.
The blog this comes from is published by Jesus People, some of Helen Shiller's biggest supporters. Of *COURSE* they're brainwashed. Shiller allowed the gangs to thrive in Uptown, so they *MUST* be good!
BTW, I imagine they are choking and retching at being called yuppies. In their view, poverty and gangs are good and real, and Uptown is being ruined by the soul-less yuppies who want to put an end to Helen's Utopian Uptown of gangs, crime and chaos.
" or because this was their park" seriously?
they can hold out hope that their Pollyannaish ideals on life aren't utter bullshit.
12/16/2011 06:01:00 AM
"Pollyannish"?
Hey, leave Haley Mills outta this. She's been my favorite wet dream since 1961...
A "bonified ghetto"? Isn't that Boystown, slightly to the south of Uptown? Uptown is still a bona fide ghetto, though, just with some gentrified pockets.
She wishes the gang banger well--how about the police officers mam? Police protect you from this scum of the earth--Sure we all have sin--but I would bet the "good people's" sin is minor in comparison to the gang bangers---are good people out there shooting other? are good people out there making drugs easily accessible to your kids? Wake up mam! I pity you! Your thought process is ass backwards!
"JPUSA owns a variety of local businesses, yet structures their profits and pay in such a way that their members have to seek medical and dental care at free clinics or the public dime."
--12/16/2011 11:58:00 AM
Oh. It's a cult. OK.
Who's at the top, rakin' it in?
"This is what happens when you grow up in the suburbs and you to move to the city when you became a big boy/girl because you want to tell everyone how edgy you are. These people are fucking stupid. Thank god they are drawn to shitholes like uptown away from me."
--12/16/2011 11:59:00 AM
Trendies buying into someone else's scene.
Trying to accumulate street cred to impress people at dumb parties. Is she assuming that she'll live to walk around in a T-top casually displaying a bullet wound scar?
Beware. Darwin cometh.
""UPTOWN", I hear Oak Park is building an embassy there..."
--12/16/2011 06:27:00 AM
I dunno about that one. It's "do as I say, not as I do." They made sure the PADS facility was sited over in Maywood, which is, how can I say it, a very non-diverse area.
Geez this fucking nutjob maybe should be around to greet the families of victims, go to a wake or two and get a real good feel for all the good the bangers do for the community.
Maybe stand silently by and watch one of the cops who has given so much to their job, to the city, lay there on life support, just long enough so the family can make funeral arraigments. To try your best to hold a newlywed widow up because she can barely breath from crying so much, watching her spouse just slip away....
Maybe you can be more thankful and ask that "good" gangbanger to sell you some rock... because I believe that you need something to bring you back to reality and wakeup...
No wonder
The Magnolia crowd is the strangest in Uptown, which is saying something. They call the police for any little interaction they see between the Stones, any loud noise, but when they see or are the victim of something bonified they think about it for twenty minutes before calling the police. They engage in positive loitering, but never acknowledge us when we are on a stop, never wave or offer us a drink when we are cruising around. Its totally bizzare. There are people out there exactly like this woman. I can remember a few of the Stones saying they were banging a couple of the yuppie moms on the block, how credible that was who knows, but nothing surprises me anymore. I don't know if Uptown attracts crazy people or makes them crazy, or both but it is a very weird place. About 2/3 of the 4400-4600 blk of Magnolia is condo, and I have seen as many as 28 condos for sale at one time. These people are stuck. I can understand that for some of these people confrontation is not an option, but appeasement is totally unfucking believable.
re: 12/16/2011 10:15:00 AM
"The cornerstone of the Christian faith is forgiveness. That's what the cross is about."
no, that's not what the cross is about.
"The Bible even links your own forgiveness with your forgiveness of others."
no, it doesn't.
"Now you don't have to believe it but you should hold up on running off at the mouth on your Christian faith but not mentioning anything that seems remotely close to the doctrine."
heed your own advice.
"There are some hardcharging coppers and servicemembers that love God and are the real deal Christians and while it's a tough line to walk...they're out there."
how would you know?
"It don't appear that you're one of them based on your comments but that's your choice not mine."
appearances can be deceiving, as you so effectively demonstrate.
This woman will make the front page of the Sun Times one day. She is stupid and will get her family killed. Oh well.
These white liberals don't understand that the savage does not appreciate nor care about your feelings about them. They will take all that you give them. They will let you treat them like victims because it is part of the game. But in the end, Mr and Mrs liberal, all the savage has for you is contempt. This particular liberal happens to live near the savage, unlike most savage huggers. It will only serve to reinforce what we already know, that she will become a victim to these animals soon. And I will feel no pity for this fool.
I call bullshit, even the made up kid names are too hard to believe.
G-d help us if there are people that think like that!!!!
This my friends is why america is lost!
"I have seen as many as 28 condos for sale at one time. These people are stuck."
--12/16/2011 07:15:00 PM
Oh, yeah, that forest of different signs outside the building gets real embarassing. Sometimes the realtors quietly agree among themselves to take their signs down and try to sell discreetly through MLRS, something not so disaster-like.
...but stuck the motherf__ers are.
Watchoo gonna sell in a 1960 ten-flat cash cow with six or seven different signs in the lawn? Sewage running down the walls? Roof cavin' in? What is going on in there?
You don't wanna know.
part of the liberal, social, democratic disease that has infected this country.
Uptown for anyone that knew the area before is completely different. Used to be a million times worse! The dope spots are getting squeezed smaller and smaller, so the competition is of course getting much greater. So as long as the shit heads keep shooting each other and not any innocent citizens, then who cares! Let them keep knocking each other off one by one. Saves the tax payers from supporting them. Plus, I have to admit that their aim of who they are shooting is much better than other areas of the city. Not like the west side or south side where you keep hearing about some innocent kid sleeping that gets struck through the window.
"Uptown is my home, just like the guy with the white tshirt at the park. Just like him I have sin..."
"Just like him?"
Oh, really?
What neighborhoods did you destroy?
Who did you kill, just banging a gun off into the dark at random?
Etc.
This HAS to be written by one of those cult members.
Talk about "brainwashed."
Re: 12/16/2011 10:15:00 AM
In the Uptown blog, the Christian Liberal mom is confusing Christianity with Liberalism and "the disease to please everyone".
"Nobody" is objecting to the mom teaching forgiveness.
"Everyone" is objecting to the mom forcing her son to apologize for other people's misdeeds
As shown in the Uptown blog, the son was already respectful, because he didn't belong to a gang, throw juice boxes or make hair jokes.
The mother should apologize to her son, for making him apologize for things he didn't do.
Why don't they offer to name streets after them? Maybe that'll work.
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