Speed Camera Noise
- Jack up City Sticker fees on a completely arbitrary baseline of vehicle weight, suddenly making thousands of families minivans on the hook for a sizable increase, based on shoddy or imagined reporting that vehicles over that certain tonnage do more damage to city streets.
That's pretty much what happened late last year. The solution?
- OK, we'll just raise everyone's City Sticker fee.
Everyone says, "Golly, Rahm sure is wise. He spread the cost increase over the entire city." In reality, we're pretty sure that's what he wanted. Tax increase = more money for pet projects. Rahm didn't let a crisis go to waste.
Anyone see this happening again?
An influential alderman wants to put the brakes — sort of — on Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plan to use red-light cameras and cameras concealed in vans to catch motorists who speed near schools and parks.
Ald. Anthony Beale (9th), chairman of the City Council’s Transportation Committee, said there’s no reason to keep the cameras rolling around schools until 8:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday and 9 p.m. on Friday when most of the kids are gone by late afternoon.
“Schools are out at 3 p.m., so it shouldn’t run past 4 p.m. — even if there’s an after-school program. There’s no reason for people to be ticketed after 4 p.m. around schools,” said Beale, whose committee must approve legislation implementing the crackdown.
“Parks are a different story because they do stay open a little longer. And parks are heavily used by the kids in the evenings.”
Beale also wants to lower the fines and phase them in even more than state lawmakers did to ease the blow on motorists.
Anyone want to bet that Rahm doesn't "compromise" on this, too?
- He still gets his speed cameras;
- he still gets to claim it's "for the children," even in the face of studies showing the claim that Chicago has an outrageous pedestrian accident rate is pretty much BS;
- he appears "reasonable" by having Beale phase in the fines and shortening the previously proposed hours of operation.
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Even with a fully staffed Cpd traffic enforcement particularly speeding was minimal at best. Yeah the cameras are money makers but so what. People drive like idiots if these make them slow down or not fly through lights what's the beef?
There was a boston tea party for a reason. history always seems to repeat itself.
Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem
I have a better idea!
Traffic fines should be based upon income. Like say one-tenth percent of your take home pay.
A person making $50k/yr it's a $50 dollar fine. For an alderman making $150/yr it's a $150 fine for the same offense and for a million dollar mayor or his banker and CEO friends the same one-tenth percent makes it $1,000 fine... or more depending on how many millions they're making.
That's how you share the pain...because you know we are all in this together and everything.
Heh.. one red light camera fine and you're gonna wipe out about a weeks pay for these shovel-ready Wal-Mart-like welding job workers that the political apparatus are boasting about.
Oh yeah and the new city ordinance that Burke is proposing wants the public to just sit down and shut up at city council meetings.
This is what we compensate 50 Chicago alderman with six-figure incomes or more to do. Write these non-sense ordinances wasting time and our money.
Seriously, with all the current problems that the city has this is what there priorities are. To make sure the public doesn't yell in approval or disapproval while they are having a meeting...OH YEAH..and the mayor has to approve any signs or banners..etc..
The people will be in the streets come spring time. Mark my words.
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
since when is beale influential??
The only way to stop this little rat bastard is for OUR Aldermen to stand up and say FUCK NO! We only need 26 of these assholes to do their job and begin representing US...the people who voted them into office. Make the calls to your ward office. Write letters to these arrogant fucks and let them know how you feel. Better yet make a visit and let these pricks know that you are very unhappy about getting fucked out of your hard earned money every time you turn around. The Racoon can be knocked out if WE all go after him. Getting a $50 or $100 ticket is no easy matter today. Most of us are counting our pennies trying to get through this economic downturn. I can't believe how our Democrat leaders are raping us in these hard and trying times. But maybe I can.
I avoid Chicago if at all possible these days. After this goes into effect, I'll never come across the border. Nothing's worth getting bushwhacked by Halfinger.
I understand nearly half the city is going to be included in this. What will messengers, delivery vans, cabs, anybody who has to push it a little to make it, do?
Total disaster for the city's businesses and the Dems. The Dems deserve it. Too bad for everyone else.
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“Schools are out at 3 p.m., so it shouldn’t run past 4 p.m. — even if there’s an after-school program. There’s no reason for people to be ticketed after 4 p.m. around schools,” said Beale, whose committee must approve legislation implementing the crackdown.
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Hahaha...these jags are so out of touch with the middle class and their own rules they pass it's pathetic.
Hey..what happened to the extended school day for the children -- did we repeal that proposal? Last time I checked the extended school day is pushing school closings to 3:30PM at the earliest.
Oh and they never-ever hold any after school activities that will last more then 30 minutes right? You never have kids shooting hoops or in the school playground after school hours...Idiots!
Parks close at 11pm and that's "slightly later"?
Let me guess. The alderman gets off at 4 pm and there's a school that is going to mess up his drive time home if these hours are not changed right?
Hey follow the charter schools. The kids get out at 3:30 and anyone that is caught loitering near school grounds by 3:35 should get a $10 fine..that's all ..it's for their safety. Fine 'em, the parents have money and are easy targets.
Yeah..I know, I know, the aldermen says sit down and shut up.
Rahm is a ONE-TERM BEDBUG!
There is no way in hell that people are going to re-elect him.
PO Jose Vazquez RIP 5 year anniversary . You are not forgotten and we will catch your killer.
Ha - I totally agree with you! Dead on, Rahm is full of BS. Let's all work to make him a 1 term mayor!
Been on days 6 of my 20 and never remember handling a honor roll student struck by a car. just sayn.
Just one more time, for the record ;
" THE MOST CORRUPT CITY IN THE NATION "
LOCATED IN THE 3RD. "MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE UNION "
Makes ya' feel proud, don't it?
Is it just me or is that left turn arrow at harlem/higgins awfully quick. be careful at that intersection the arrow goes from green to red pretty fucking fast and the camera flashes just as fast.
One day the people of chicago will stand up for themselves.......I just know they will.
Off topic, but serious non the less. The 002 scandal is about to get much bigger!
Sgt. Watts worked part time for People Gas (Guardian Security), and numerous of these shake downs occurred during his side job. There will be numerous officers that will be brought into this investigation because of their dealings with Watts while on the clock at Guardian.
Anyone that worked with Watts at People's Gas, good luck!
But yet we stay in chicago. Cant wait to leave this open sewer...
On Chicago Tonight, alderman Pat Dowell stated Emanuel's office provided the aldermen with 'facts' stating over NINE HUNDRED CRASHES involving children had occurred over the past five years, in the vicinity of schools and parks.
Okay, so that's roughly 180, or so, a year.
And, there's no further info. Are these accidents
1) children actually being physically struck by cars?
2) 'children', age 16 or 17, actually driving cars and being in accidents?
3) children in autos, driven by adults, who happen to be passengers in cars involved in crashes?
4) children on bicycles, which are cited as the 'cause' of vehicular accidents, even though they are no part of the actual accident at all?
5) children who are passengers on buses, be they school buses or CTA buses, which are involved in vehicle crashes?
As a p.o. and a sergeant, for thirty years, I don't think I've encountered more than five situations where kids were actually struck by cars.
Could we have a little of that famous Rahm Emanuel TRANSPARENCY on these supposed figures, please?
And, what are the criteria they used to define the area 'near' a school or park? Did Emanuel's office define that when tossing out these so-called crash statistics to the aldermen?
Sorry, Rahm, but five kids who are in a van when the adult driver dings a parked car, DO NOT count as five kids who could be helped by a speeding camera. Stop lying to justify your money-grab.
Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem
2/16/2012 12:28:00 AM
This is not about speed bumps. Most schools on residential streets already HAVE speed bumps.
This is about speeding cameras, placed on Diversey, on Ashland, on 95th, on Harlem, etc., even though the school or park nearby is actually two blocks in, on a side street.
You won't see speeding cameras on Sawyer, but you'll see them one block east, on Kedzie. You won't see speeding cameras on 58th, but you'll see them on 59th, a block or two from the park that they're using as the excuse for cameras 'nearby'. Don't kid yourself about the INTENT of this law.
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
2/16/2012 12:49:00 AM
Yup. Put those speed bumps across all three lanes of Division and Western. After all, there's a school nearby.
And put speedbumps across the entirety of Midway Plaisance, too.
Is it just me or is that left turn arrow at harlem/higgins awfully quick. be careful at that intersection the arrow goes from green to red pretty fucking fast and the camera flashes just as fast.
2/16/2012 02:13:00 AM
Left turns are supposed to be EXEMPT from red light camera tickets. I've never heard of anyone getting one.
Anybody here get one? (Please, no heard-it-from-a-friend stuff. Has anyone here ever GOTTEN one?)
Um......... So, if kids are in school, then the cameras don't need to be on once the school starts, right?
Anonymous said...
One day the people of chicago will stand up for themselves.......I just know they will.
2/16/2012 02:14:00 AM
"Crickets chirping"
How about a system of Computer Aided Traffic Management that would move vehicle traffic along as quickly as possible. Not standing at redlights, left turn buys and everything that could be managed to cut down on travel time, vehicle wear and tear and reduce fuel use.
Think of the children!
"Anonymous said...
Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem
2/16/2012 12:28:00 AM"
Ya darn fool. Those damage vehicles over time even if you don't speed over them. Stress causes windshiled cracks, fuel system leaks, and all kinds of minor problems that grow over time.
One of my eldery relatives in another town got a hip fracture walking over one of these damn things in the snow.
How about hiring Police Officers and treating them with some respect? Then have them write tickets. You have the added benefit of, you know, more POLICE OFFICERS!
Speed bumps wreck car in the winter w/ snow covering them. They are an idiotic solution and cost us money.
Speed cameras don't protect children, and Rham knows it. It's a money grab.
Distracted and just plane bad drivers are the culprits here. The only thing catching them, the only thing protecting children is a copper in a car writing them a ticket. Anything else is another tax.
Six miles over the limit? Watch your speedometer for a few days. We all do it, all the time. Is it unsafe at 6 miles over the limit? Not if you are driving your car and not on a cell phone, or yelling at your kids or eating or texting. Just a money grab Mr. Mayor. Don't lie to us.
Just look at the Stollway. They almost DOUBLED the rate overnight with nary a peep. Forget that the tolls were supposed to go away in the 70's, because once they have the means to collect it in place (I-Pass)it will never ever go away. And you feel good about it because it costs twice that to pay in cash.
Oh yeah, it's all for the children alright.
We don't see a lot of kids getting run over around schools but we do see a lot of kids getting killed by television sets falling on them lately, so what's the solution there? Cameras in the house of course.
we are paying for all the people registering their car outside of the city but still live here..i drive down blocks in englewood where all the car are register to the suburbs..
Your on a non emergency call. You go by the camera and trigger it. Will you get the ticket?
Just a FYI , PO's working in the 11th ward please keep your eyes open for traffic light camera thefts, haven't seen them........and rember the kids.....would'nt only want to keep the NW side kids safe , just would'nt be right !
Put in camera's but don't use them?
That's brilliant. So after 3pm I can drive balls out fast while texting and eating a Big Mac, as long as I have an Obama sticker on my car?
WTF
How did we get here?
Any rumors regarding the 5B furlough arbitration?
Download Trapster on your smart phone- it warns you of speed cameras and redlight cameras via a map or you can set it to audio and it will warn you as you drive. It eve reports where police are using lidar/radar and using road blocks.
Here's anovel approach to traffic enforcement. Beef up the number of judges in traffic court. Assign competent judges and not just those that are low on seniority or under investigation. Stop the wholesale dismissal of violations, hundreds at a time,thereby depriving the city of revenue. Stop making the Officer who enforces the law feel like the offender. In short, make Cook County justice somewhat legit. The crap in the courthouse has been going on for the 30 plus years I've been on CPD.
Isn't the thousands of huge speed bumps already in place and doing there job?
the last "kid" I had hit by a car was playing grab ass and dodging cars on a major arterial street. Numerous, independanr witnesses stuck around to give a statement saying the kid (15 year old) and his friends were deliberately running in front of cars trying to make them swerve and crash.
I made the kid unit one, took full written statements from 3 witnesses, and didn't issue a ticket to the driver.
Mama and Grandmama pitched a fit at the hospital over this set of events, thry called for a Sgt who backed me 100%, they went to the station and demanded to see the WC-they got the DC who just happened to be at the desk, I got backed again 100%.
They threatened to sue everyone, including me over this "injustice" That was 3 years ago, never heard another word.
Rahm's like a mad man out of control!
Now it's more fines and taxes for the high rises and the strip clubs.
All these fines and fees are necessary to pay for the tax breaks given to Motorola, The CME Group, Sears, Ford, Chrysler, etc..
He's transferring the wealth to his corporate friends.
Hizzhonor is also most likely getting a sneak peak at the projected city revenue from all those shovel-ready Wal-Mart-like jobs he and quinn boast about -- the min-wage welding payroll tax shortfalls are freaking him out. haha..
Hey. What do you expect when you help your buddies bust the unions out. When those UAW jobs went from $35/hr down to $13/hr it took a lot of tax revenue with it. Oh but don't look at that. No, look we're creating new jobs..hahaha.
You have to create about three of these (new jobs) suckers to replace the tax revenue that the city was getting from one "Old Jobs".
Twenty to thirty percent wage cuts for ALL city employees is on the horizon should we make it through the Apocalypse.
Beale is a puppet, willing to suck the ass of anyone to get ahead! Rahm is nothing more than a crook and sham who should not have been elected period! I can't speak for anyone else, but my alderman (carrie austin) does not represent me, my interest nor those of my family. Chicago has the most uneducated voter base in the nation! People vote based on name and race, not who has the fiscal health of the people and city in mind. One would think as city employees we would have a bigger interest in city politics. Many don't, I know several DUMB ASS P.O.'S (P.O. is being kind these people are worthless) who voted for Rahm because "obama sent him" DUMB ASS LOOK AT HOW MUCH OBAMA IS FUCKING UP! I can't get away from this state fast enough
What are Rahm's quals to be Mayor. Only a BA in communications from a historically women's college, no grad work in Poly Sci or Government.
I guess a horrible disposition and arrogance is all you need.
He is a multi millionaire solely because of knowing Bill Clinton. He could give a fuck about anything but his ego.
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
2/16/2012 12:49:00 AM
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Well see...while speed bumps would prevent people from speeding more than the cameras would it doesn't enable Rahm's tax/fine/fee money machine for pet projects.
C'mon now WHY would anyone not believe what our aldermen have to say.
Out of 50, over the years, 31 have gone to jail.
(In a soft Mr. Rogers voice)
" Can you say....'credibility' boys and girls?"
hey rahm how about camera enforcement to ticket the double parkers outside most public schools in chicago
have water dept fire employees that failed to collect revenue from suburbs that owe chicago millions in over due water bills
no just raise city stickers and water bill for chicago residents
I'd like to comment on the rumors of 12 hour days and sick days.
These are attacks on our contract. There is nothing more important to your quality of life than the contract. The 12 hours days are a by-product of not hiring. Like it or not, one way or another, we will have more work schedule compression. We will be working longer hours and more days. You will have less time for leisure and family. For the same pay. Forget a raise.
I predict this contract up in June will the quickest contract resolved in recent history. Rahm will strip our uniform and duty checks, and our medical. Zero raise. Zero retro. The FOP will cry foul, and march. Rahm will have Arbitrator Benn tell us how bad the economy is and that the City has no choice. The City Council will approve it over our objections. I say it will only take a month.
Statist thugs like Rahm finds it INCONCEIVABLE that we have a contract. People like him think that orders from supervisiors should trump contracts, laws and precedents.
In my humble opinion, as long as we have a contract, The City will not hire the the necessary manpower. People like Rahm will keep chipping away at the contract, untill the majority of us just quit. Then they can disolve the contract all together. The they will hire half-witted goons for $20,000 with no benefits.
This job will just be another transitory job someone does for 5 years than quits.
How will more uncollected fines solve the budget crisis?...Those who already don't pay outstanding parking/red light fines will notpay speeding fines....but come to think of it I did once get a redlight ticket- and paid it..perhaps they figure i am good to get/pay one of these---doubt it will solve their issues
Democrats are great at setting up straw-men and knocking them down.
I don't see any kids getting hit by cars. How can they? Around most of these schools, traffic is in gridlock because parents double and triple park so they can pick up their kids. Don't kids walk to school anymore?
Some schools even set up horses blocking all vehicular traffic. Some schools have bust-outs standing around directing traffic and looking menacing.
Remember 9.5's, and the democratic motto, "never let a crises go to waste."
Even if it is a manufactured one.
Who is going to fill out the TSS cards. Is there disciplinary proceedures for racial profiling by the cameras?
Can only imagine the effect these speeding cameras will have on business in the city. I live right on the border of the city and everything I want or need I can get in the Southwest suburbs. Plenty of parking and a great selection of stores. Who the hell is going to come into this town and risk getting speeding tickets if they go over 25 mph on 60% of our streets. Fuck you Mr. Mayor Racoon Eyes. You don't give a fuck about us poor slobs out here trying to make ends meet. Put in the speed bumps. Nobody likes them BUT they don't make any money for you to piss away on useless rathole projects. They don't make millions$ for your donors over at Redflex.
Rahm goes to the extreme,Beale comes up w a solution 4:00,Rahm & the C.C. agree w the solution looks like rahm backed down everybody wins.... Yeah right its just another money grab vote for ANYBODY but this jagoff
The red light cameras made 69 million last year. anyone know where that money went??????
I live in the 41st Ward. I called Alderman O'Connors office about this matter. Her aide told me that she appreciates her constituients calling her with there opinions as to they way they want her to vote. I say call,call,call. Send her an email, a letter. This Mayor has declared war on the citizens of Chicago. Anyone with an ounce of brains knows that this is not about "protecting the children", it's about raising revenue.
Here is the telephone number to Alderman O'Connors office. I suggest that everyone of us that live in 41 call and that we get our friends/neighbors to do the same. And if you live in another ward, call that Alderman as well. Remember, we GAVE then their office, WE can take it away. But only if you vote and call.
Alderman Mary O'Connor
773-594-8341
SCC, is there anyway this post can be made a stickey or kept on the front burner for awhile?
I have not heard one legitimate argument as to why these are a bad idea. People on here complaining are acting like you are being charged just to drive on the street like a tollway. The only reason you would ever have to pay is if you are speeding. Wow easy solution don't speed. Is that so hard. Leave earlier so you don't have to rush.
Like a poster stated, speed bumps. In some areas it's like a 60' angle. No way you can speed with two on a block. The fucking bought off clueless media doesn't even challenge his marching orders. Kind of like Nazi Germany except for no threat of death by talking out. Media = socialism. Socialism for the masses not them.
Anonymous said...
Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem
2/16/2012 12:28:00 AM
Excellent idea!!! Oh, Wait!!! Rahm isn't generating revenue that way. Ok boys, back to the drawing board.
If these cameras are to protect children then they should be on side streets adjacent to schools not on major streets that are regulated with red lights. People speed through side streets to avoid traffic lights especially during school dismissal times.. To have speed cameras on major thoroughfares is just stupid .
Stop bitchin on a blog and get out and do something. Look on the news, Europeans riot for less than this. Call your fuckin alderman and bitch. Call the mayors office. Reasons for revolt:
1. Higher water bill
2. Higher city sticker
3. Speed cameras
4. Cutting CPD, CFD, Libraries, Streets/San. Meanwhile we still have the same number of alderfucks we've had since the 1950's (even with a million less citizens).
5. Dog licenses and fines for failure to license.
6. Rahm wants a $65 handgun registration fee.
7. Wasting taxpayers money to fight the second amendment to the US Constitution.
8. Rahm's failure to deliver on transparency in city government.
9. Alderwhores get a six figure salary for a part time job, a slush fund and serve what? Eight years? To get a pension (with automatic raises every year).
Meanwhile, we, the little guys, get blamed for destroying the budget with our pensions.
I could rant on about the county and the state, but let's stop with the city for now. Wake up! Give your friends and neighbors the REAL phone number to Rahm's office. Remind these dicks that we voted them in, we can vote them out.
OT... DId you read the latest comments from McStupid on how he is going to handle the G8 crows if they turn violent?? He states that "tear gas" is most likely a "no".. First of all... We dont use tear gas moron... I have been on this dept over 18 years.. Been in SOS on a gas team back in early 90's and all we ever used was pepper.. He goes on to say that "he never understood how tear gas helps in dispersing a crowd..all it does is make several smaller crowds"?? Huh?? I have been in many riots Mr McCarthy and let me tell you something..as a gas operator it works wonders and you dont have a political correct clue as to what the hell your talking about when it comes to handling a riot... Leave that to the professionals...you are sending officers in on what you call "extraction teams" to get attacked?? Are you out of your fucking mind?? You go first and we will watch how that works without pepper... You expect us to club these people and end up on the 10 o clock news because you dont want to use pepper?? Fuck that.. You come in and do the job pal.. What a goof.. Watch some video of past G8 s and every one uses some type of gas and it DOES work.. But God forbid we cause a political uprising... You want another 1968?? Go away. I hate to say this... Despite Jody's bad choice with Cozzi.. HE was better than you Mr McCarthy... God I cant believe I am saying that.. Sad day for CPD.
In the mayors defense, people should not be speeding in the first place. If you drive like a responsible citizen then you have nothing to worry about. I was detailed to dismissels at the schools and there were several cars that would speed past the schools playing loud rap music with loud bass. This morons need a ticket. I'm sure everyone wouldn't not want them around while their children were crossing the streets.
Rahm combines the worst of Little Ritchie with the worst of Bloomberg of New York. Nanny state mentality with an extortionists actions.
Its 20 in school zones..........
I can't wait to see traffic moving at 10 - 15, people walking faster than cars moving.
Rahm and Co. are gone after this term.
How about a sliding scale police and fire surcharge based on the per capita amount of calls in the surrounding half mile.
Did rahm collect water bills from suburbs , 16,000,000
does mayor daly still have his paid chauffers , body guards
will he cut alderman from 50 to 20
no but he will double water bills , increase city sticker fees
Maybe this?
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2012/02/16/speed-limit-assorted/
"I am the Omnipotent Mayor RAHM!!"
How dare you question my authority! Citizens of Chicago obey!, or I will tax you further....So be it.
Do you think the city would consider signs like this?
http://www.89xradio.com/school.jpg
OT no mention of the order rescinding some of the uniforms? No more embroidered stars on the vest cover. a couple of others too that i forget. order came out february 15.
Off topic, look at the heading of the video of our boy Herb
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82276571/
Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem
2/16/2012 12:28:00 AM
Speed bumps are fine....As long as you do not damage my car when I go over them at the legal speed limit. If I remember right, the legal speed limit is 30mph on city streets. If I have to slow down to under 15 to not do any damage to my car, there is something wrong with the speed bumps, but I'm sure Rahmmie will pay my repair bill. On the other side of the coin, SUV's can go over them at 30+mph without hardly feeling them. Recently had to have a squad towed due to undercarriage damage in our district. I'll bet it was due to a speed bump.
These stupid things are impossible to see, especially in salt covered streets, since you can't see the little white V's they put on them, and furthermore, the sign says "Speed BUMP ahead". How many times is there only ONE speed bump after you pass the sign?? NEVER, there is always at least two. Now, why doesn't the sign say, "2 speed bumps ahead", or "Speed BUMPS ahead" And how about an 'Arrow' sign at it's exact position?
Speed bumps are not the answer, I can't stand them.
Watch the tricks the city will pull at these locations. Speeds that were 30 will drop to 25 and the new signs will be smaller. This will result in huge revenue since the violation will be 6 miles over the limit. Pay attention to the posted signs and take side streets as much as possible until they put up STOP SIGN CAMERAS for the safety of squirrels, rabbits and crawling insects!!!
They'd better get to work on those signs that say "On school days when children are present" and change them quickly to "Smile, you're on camera."
This bullshit revenue generator is the reason they just passed an ordinance to go after your state taxes in case you decide you're not gonna pay.
And good luck getting your money back when some fucking useless city worker errors in her job and you get a deduction for somebody else's violation......stupid stupid tax payers.
OT.
Hey 016 dist burglary team. I was driving with my kids and as I past " Penny Pinchers " 4806 N. Central Ave. at 12:30 Two hypes( spansih and black looking)and others were waiting for the store to open they didn't have anything in their hands but because I was with my kids I didn't see if they had a car in the lot. ** something to check out ** there was a normal white guy with a bag witing to sell something and he even had his guard up.
Expect more of the same in terms of poorly disguised revenue-making machines the longer we, as a whole, continue to check-up on writing parkers, ANOVs, et al.
Also expect our digitally-challenged mayor to exploit these financial statistics come contract negotiation time. He can (and undoubtedly will) create a variety of ways to make this all of our fault, using concocted and manipulated stats to justify little to no raises while further turning the public against it's police.
Why spend the money on cameras if they won't work all the time! You want revenue then "do or do not. There is no try." Or Use speedbumps!
Anonymous said...
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
2/16/2012 12:49:00 AM
Speedbumps do not make any money for Rahm
They make money for car glass replacement and muffler companies but not Rahm so that's why.
• Just how many kids are getting run over at parks and school zones lately? Zero.
• How many get out and run thru the streets chasing each other with box cutters and 2x4's? Thousands.
How about adding another 2 solid $'s for an after school jaywalking fee to the Flamin' Hot tax.
Why is it the taxpayer has to come up with the cash and not the freeloader. Put a stop payment on that government check for city indebtedness.
Then, every Chicago citizen "got skin in the game".
Don't many (most?) regular CPS elementary schools and high schools have parks immediately adjacent to their properties? Even if it's just a little sliver of land holding the playground equipment, I've frequently seen those named as a CPD park. How is "park" defined in the legislation? I wonder if this is another "fake" concession.
Anonymous said...
Even with a fully staffed Cpd traffic enforcement particularly speeding was minimal at best. Yeah the cameras are money makers but so what. People drive like idiots if these make them slow down or not fly through lights what's the beef?
2/16/2012 12:14:00 AM
What's the beef?
So you're drinking the Koolaid?
This has NOTHING to do with making them "slow down or not fly through lights", and EVERYTHING to do with funding government corruption, patronage, nepotism and the ILLEGAL sanctuary city.
We've ALREADY seen it. As soon as the public gets used to the cameras at an intersection, they avoid the intersection or, fearing a ticket, stop short quickly and cause a rear end collision. Either way, when the cash flow slows to a trickle, they simply add more cameras to their arsenal at another location.
Then there is the next phase. The connected camera companies, clearly planning for BIG corporate profits for their share holders, find more ways to entice governments to buy their cameras by touting the "next big thing" in municipal revenue generating cameras. Maybe they start to use these cameras to try and fine people who aren't wearing seat belts? Or maybe we can fine people who are speeding? Can we squeeze cash from the people who have a tail light out? And, hey, maybe if we adjust the camera angle and focus, we can catch the cars in the opposite lanes who have cracked windshields or the people who are talking on cell phones? Or is it possible to watch the sidewalk down the block from the intersection and catch people walking their dogs who aren't picking up their dog poop? Why don't we aim the cameras into restaurants or bars and fine the businesses who aren't obeying the NO SMOKING rules?
And it flies in the face of Rahm's claim of more "transparency" in government. Show me in his budget where it is documented exactly how much is collected from these cameras and exactly where that money goes. If the public knew the answers to these questions, they'd be marching on City Hall with torches and pitchforks!
Seems like there are more kids hit by falling TV's than by speeding cars in school zones!
Why not just install speed bumps on the streets to slow these speeders down?
Oh but then there would be No Revenue!
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
2/16/2012 12:49:00 AM
Perhaps they can just cover all the dead with asphalt that should slow traffic!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rahm is a ONE-TERM BEDBUG!
There is no way in hell that people are going to re-elect him.
2/16/2012 01:31:00 AM
And who, exactly, will run against him? Someone else from the machine? Different singer, same song.
Anonymous said...
Watch the tricks the city will pull at these locations. Speeds that were 30 will drop to 25 and the new signs will be smaller. This will result in huge revenue since the violation will be 6 miles over the limit. Pay attention to the posted signs and take side streets as much as possible until they put up STOP SIGN CAMERAS for the safety of squirrels, rabbits and crawling insects!!!
2/16/2012 12:39:00 PM
If thats the case, Im sure some ghetto thug who is revoked and not supposed to be driving will sue and get a bunch of money.
stars , cpd don't need no stinkin stars on our uniform
I just overheard a conversation between two exempts. Big changes coming tomorrow.
Anonymous said...
OT.
Hey 016 dist burglary team. I was driving with my kids and as I past " Penny Pinchers " 4806 N. Central Ave. at 12:30 Two hypes( spansih and black looking)and others were waiting for the store to open they didn't have anything in their hands but because I was with my kids I didn't see if they had a car in the lot. ** something to check out ** there was a normal white guy with a bag witing to sell something and he even had his guard up.
2/16/2012 01:06:00 PM
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Hey RETARD!!!
What the FUCK are you attempting to say?!!
That's not even English!!!!
Fucking dumbass.
Anonymous said...
I avoid Chicago if at all possible these days. After this goes into effect, I'll never come across the border. Nothing's worth getting bushwhacked by Halfinger.
I understand nearly half the city is going to be included in this.
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no, more than 60% of the entire city is going to be blanketed with these cash registers.
And when people stop speeding around these cameras, some NEW lameass idea will be dreamt up to keep sucking the cash out of the middle class pockets, since we know all the revrun's southside scumbags won't be paying up a dime, since none of them drive registered vehicles in the first place.
wheres robinhood when you need him?
" When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of
men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that
authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it. "
Frederic Bastiat
Traffic fines should be based upon income. Like say one-tenth percent of your take home pay.
The problem with the above idea, is that it violates the 14th amendment, dealing with equal protection under the law
All for show. I'm already budgeting for several tickets I see in my future. How are they going to handle squad car tickets? What if you see something suspicious down the block, and you run the light or go over the speed limit? Will you have to document every light you go through and why? Every time you speed and why?
Citizens get mad when they see us going through lights or parking illegally. As a det., I'm always on the run to squeeze in interviews. If I run an occasional 'late' light, what is the big deal? The more ground I can cover in a day, the more I can get done. Those things add up. If I drive 25 everywhere, I guarantee you it will be a waste of my time.
And for those of you who will say I will have to give up my 3 hour lunches, I've been out to lunch twice in the last 2 years, and that included doing work doing lunch. I've never had a 3 hour lunch, ever, in over 10 years as a det.
Most days I'm lucky if I can eat an apple or banana in the car while I'm on my way somewhere.
"Why not just install speed bumps on the streets to slow these speeders down?
Oh but then there would be No Revenue!"
Exactly! It has NOTHING to do with the safety of "the children", it's all about revenue.
I have a better idea!
Traffic fines should be based upon income. Like say one-tenth percent of your take home pay.
A person making $50k/yr it's a $50 dollar fine. For an alderman making $150/yr it's a $150 fine for the same offense and for a million dollar mayor or his banker and CEO friends the same one-tenth percent makes it $1,000 fine... or more depending on how many millions they're making.
2/16/2012 12:31:00 AM
Another CPS by-product showing his math skills. One tenth of $50,000 is $5,000. I'm sure Rahm would love that amount but it seems a little excessive to me.
"Why spend the money on cameras if they won't work all the time!"
Because you cannot justify school speed limits when school is not in session.
Nor can you justify slower limits around parks when they're closed.
The only way to sell this was for Rahm to make an argument for the safety of "the children". If the children aren't there, the argument goes out the window.
Anonymous said...
I have not heard one legitimate argument as to why these are a bad idea. People on here complaining are acting like you are being charged just to drive on the street like a tollway. The only reason you would ever have to pay is if you are speeding. Wow easy solution don't speed. Is that so hard. Leave earlier so you don't have to rush.
2/16/2012 09:49:00 AM
Enjoy your commute to and from work AT 20 MPH!
OT Heads Up:
Department of Finance/Street Ops Revenue Managing Director discussing plans to Remove CPD from being Authorized to Carry Handwritten Ticket Books for Parking Enforcement.
Reason Given: Too many handwritten tickets for Street Cleaning and Rush Hour issued with similar Time Stamps. Too Many Complaints of Tickets found written by the same officer for the same time and day blocks apart from each other.
Autocite Ticket machines to potentially become part of the Officers Daily check out of gear, or no parking enforcement allowed.
Ya'all can thank 018 and 019 and 023 and 001 for this
"do or do not. There is no try."
Dude, you missed your calling! You should be writing bumper stickers!
(especially for speeding cars!)
"OT no mention of the order rescinding some of the uniforms? No more embroidered stars on the vest cover. a couple of others too that i forget. order came out february 15."
Big changes Friday! You can take it to the bank!
Is Daley on the board of the camera company, like I hear he is for the parking meter company? What better way to get a contract and screw city and or tax payees... I'm just saying...
"Any rumors regarding the 5B furlough arbitration?"
Lots of rumors, but no facts.
2/16/2012 12:28:00 AM
I suppose putting speed bumps on main streets like Ashland and Irving and Western and Division and Clark and California and Montrose and other main streets is a good idea?
Cmon....people Speed in this city because there is Shit for Enforcement by the Police if it isn't a Squad equipped with radar or laser.
Just like People abuse Loading Zones or Tow Zones or Bus Stops in this city.
"Off topic, but serious non the less. The 002 scandal is about to get much bigger!
Sgt. Watts worked part time for People Gas (Guardian Security)..."
Oh good! Maybe the media will use "A security guard..." rather than "A Chicago Police officer..." in their reports!
2/16/2012 01:57:00 AM
We said that about Daley.....
Problem:
PO's and FF don't vote. They don't tell their families to vote. They can't agree on who to support against the incumbent.
Some schools even set up horses blocking all vehicular traffic. Some schools have bust-outs standing around directing traffic and looking menacing.
2/16/2012 09:26:00 AM
Hey leave the school officers alone. Don't call them bustouts because they direct traffic!!!
The red light cameras made 69 million last year. anyone know where that money went??????
2/16/2012 09:44:00 AM
Uh um no.
Signed Richie Daley
Maybe we're looking at this all wrong.
Maybe we SHOULD slow down. A LOT.
Go so slow near parks and in school zones that we create complete and total gridlock.
Stop in the middle of the street for no reason, except the safety of "the children".
Screw up traffic even worse than it already is.
This will have two effects:
1) No revenue for Rahm
2) It will shut down all the speed bump proponents and the "Don't speed if you don't want a ticket" crowd.
Casual organized crime can be done by any gang of thugs with a sense of style, but serious organized crime... that takes a government agency.
Even with a fully staffed Cpd traffic enforcement particularly speeding was minimal at best. Yeah the cameras are money makers but so what. People drive like idiots if these make them slow down or not fly through lights what's the beef?
2/16/2012 12:14:00 AM
You are a giant asshole. I can't even take the time to explain to a moron like you why this is a bad idea and we shouldn't allow the government to walk over us like this, let alone dig into our pockets at every opportunity. I hope you get these tickets every week and have to fork over the money. Idiot.
Will squad cars that are caught speeding without their emergency lights on or going to an assignment have to account for their actions? They do in LA and it could happen here. Beware. The same goes for red light cameras.
City Council meetings are for conducting business, not for hosting demonstrations. I agree with the aldermen on this one. You cannot go to a condo association meeting and demonstrate, why the city council? If you have a complaint send it to your alderman. Either way, no one pays attention and no one gives a shit.
One day the people of chicago will stand up for themselves.......I just know they will.
2/16/2012 02:14:00 AM
No, they won't. Some people would voluntarily put chains on if a master would just take care of them with free food and housing. Some people don't cherish freedom. It's sad, but it's true.
Casual organized crime can be done by any gang of thugs with a sense of style, but serious organized crime... that takes a government agency.
2/16/2012 05:53:00 PM
bingo.
This will have two effects:
1) No revenue for Rahm
2) It will shut down all the speed bump proponents and the "Don't speed if you don't want a ticket" crowd.
2/16/2012 05:52:00 PM
and you'll get better gas mileage, too.
Problem:
PO's and FF don't vote. They don't tell their families to vote. They can't agree on who to support against the incumbent.
2/16/2012 05:33:00 PM
anyone but...?
Lots of rumors, but no facts.
2/16/2012 05:23:00 PM
and that's a fact.
Is Daley on the board of the camera company, like I hear he is for the parking meter company? What better way to get a contract and screw city and or tax payees... I'm just saying...
2/16/2012 05:21:00 PM
and the silver lining is:
sooner or later he, too, will die.
"Traffic fines should be based upon income. Like say one-tenth percent of your take home pay."
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Another CPS by-product showing his math skills. One tenth of $50,000 is $5,000. I'm sure Rahm would love that amount but it seems a little excessive to me.
2/16/2012 04:58:00 PM
okay, i'll try to make this as gentle as possible............
uh, sorry, can't do it.
Most days I'm lucky if I can eat an apple or banana in the car while I'm on my way somewhere.
2/16/2012 04:36:00 PM
you're making it too fucking easy again.
"do or do not. There is no try."
Dude, you missed your calling! You should be writing bumper stickers!
(especially for speeding cars!)
2/16/2012 05:08:00 PM
Um, Yoda is the one who said that. He should have given the little guy the credit!
King Rahm has spoken: Take the cameras and witnesses out of the council. If you watch Rahm he looks like a third base coach sending hand signals to his "pals" for a vote I or nah.
Why are the comments past 200 not showing on other posts? Just askin...
How about thousands of irate Firemen, Policemen, School Teachers, and other City workers unite vs Racoon. We have the power to put a stop to this asshole Mayor who violates contact agreements and wants to eliminate unions. I am only one voice but we can all let it be known that we will not be pushed around and our contracts violated.
We here at the UCPD are truly singing "happy days
are here again!" Doty is GONE, and life couldn't
be better. It's actually pleasurable to come to
work on the day shift. No one has to avoid going
upstairs now, having to deal with a man who was
clearly bipolar and in need of some serious meds.
Our numbers have dwindled to the point where
we are no longer the largest campus police force
in the state of Illinois. Our new hires all bolt
from the UCPD well under a year of service,
due directly to the hostile work environment
created here by chief Lynch and our illustrious
bipolar (now former) 2nd in command. Our
newly hired Assistant Chief has come to each
of our roll calls, and she's addressed the poor
morale (indirectly), stating her desire to 'turn
negatives into positives.' Just by her being
here and by doing so forcing Doty to resign,
she has already begun the process of creating
a positive work environment. We can only
hope that now that she's firmly in place, Lynch
will move his office to the Administration
bldg. Rumor is that Doty's miniature protege
(Merit Milt as he's been referred to on the blog)
may replace Doty as the new Asst. Chief's 2nd.
That would be a horrible choice, and word has
been sent to the Asst. Chief that this would
be a disastrous decision, one we hope she will
avoid. We don't expect Owens to last much
longer here with his mentor in the wind.
Anonymous said...
Maybe we're looking at this all wrong.
Maybe we SHOULD slow down. A LOT.
Go so slow near parks and in school zones that we create complete and total gridlock.
Stop in the middle of the street for no reason, except the safety of "the children".
Screw up traffic even worse than it already is.
This will have two effects:
1) No revenue for Rahm
2) It will shut down all the speed bump proponents and the "Don't speed if you don't want a ticket" crowd.
2/16/2012 05:52:00 PM
I like the way you think. Hold that thought until they start up the speed cameras...
Boycott Chicago all together, there are other cities an towns more friendly.
For the record , I received a red light ticket on a left hand turn at Harlem/Higgins. I honestly never thought anything of it at the time as I was aware of the camera, and confident I had not blown the red. Two weeks later I received a ticket in the mail, and a link to a video from which you could barely even determine at what point the light changed. Be careful out there boys and girls because the city is looking to remove you from your hard earned cash.
The city lost 250,000. I hope to be moving out soon myself. I don't know of any person(s) moving in. i only hear of people movig out.
In the mayors defense, people should not be speeding in the first place. If you drive like a responsible citizen then you have nothing to worry about. I was detailed to dismissels at the schools and there were several cars that would speed past the schools playing loud rap music with loud bass. This morons need a ticket. I'm sure everyone wouldn't not want them around while their children were crossing the streets.
2/16/2012 10:57:00 AM
You know, you're right. In fact, since you have nothing to fear if you're doing the right thing, let me take a look at your personal computer and keep your windows open so we can look into your house to make sure you don't do anything we can fine you for. If you're not doing anything wrong, why worry?
You are not an American. You don't believe in freedom but, rather, in being a slave to tyrants. Idiot.
Communism is here and out of the Closet forever, thanks Crookago/Crook county Democommunist Party.
Anonymous said...
The only way to stop this little rat bastard is for OUR Aldermen to stand up and say FUCK NO! We only need 26 of these assholes to do their job and begin representing US...the people who voted them into office. Make the calls to your ward office. Write letters to these arrogant fucks and let them know how you feel. Better yet make a visit and let these pricks know that you are very unhappy about getting fucked out of your hard earned money every time you turn around. The Racoon can be knocked out if WE all go after him. Getting a $50 or $100 ticket is no easy matter today. Most of us are counting our pennies trying to get through this economic downturn. I can't believe how our Democrat leaders are raping us in these hard and trying times. But maybe I can.
2/16/2012 12:56:00 AM
GIMME A BREAK, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, the Aldermen are all Democommunists too!
Anonymous said...
Just look at the Stollway. They almost DOUBLED the rate overnight with nary a peep. Forget that the tolls were supposed to go away in the 70's, because once they have the means to collect it in place (I-Pass)it will never ever go away. And you feel good about it because it costs twice that to pay in cash.
Oh yeah, it's all for the children alright.
2/16/2012 06:38:00 AM
No fees or Taxes EVER go down or go away with the Democommunists, but don't worry, you will all soon be standing in line for hours to get your FREE Government Cheese.
Thievery is against the law...The government hates competition!
Ot
This is good
More than likely, it’s a ‘no’ on the tear gas, said Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, despite the likelihood of some protesters coming to town to cause trouble.
“I’m trying to figure out how tear gas helps you control a crowd,” McCarthy said with a hint of incredulity. “It’s never really become clear to me.”
http://tinyurl.com/84azo2q
I just read the post on Shaved about Officer Jose Vazquez RIP.
Isn't anyone pissed that a brother officer has been murdered and there is no justice?
I went to the academy with Jose, a good guy. We need to catch his killer and let him rot for killing a cop.
I don't know if you saw the post on PO Vazquez's unsolved murder SCC but could you put something up to remember him?
Its the 5 year anniversary of his murder.
Uh oh. Another black eye for CPD. WTF is wrong with coppers who KNOW they are being recorded and still choose to hang themselves? Being recorded secretly is a given out there--doing stupid shit while you know a recording is running is just plain stupid.
Unbelievable. There goes the money from the speed cameras!!!!! And I would suspect punitive damages. Is it worth it? Fuck no. We should be acting with the thought in mind that all of our actions and words might some day be shown to a jury.
Careers down the drain. Savings down the drain. Retirement down the drain.
I can't believe it. Of course they don't show what was said before the sgt. said "Take a hike." The first guy walked away immediately. This guy didn't. But charges dismissed? Not good.
Sad. One black eye after another. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Why is it the taxpayer has to come up with the cash and not the freeloader. Put a stop payment on that government check for city indebtedness.
Then, every Chicago citizen "got skin in the game".
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Freeloader=gets shit for free.
2 or three meals at school.
and school is free
Link
heath care
section 8 or public housing
free cell phones
wic
bags of food at churches and food banks, because the link money went for liquor, smokes, and other shit that the store owners sell in direct violation of the rules.
so why should a freeloader even consider putting some skin in the game? Everyfuckingthing is FREE!!!! And you and me Mr Taxpayer, get to foot the bill!
This is a regressive tax on vehicle owners.
If you don't own a car, you don't speed, don't pay fines but get to benefit from the revenue.
HEY! I just described Rich Daley, Ed Burke and Rahm!
I've never been back to Toast off Halsted and Webster since seeing the staff there all congratulating and huggy with 9.5. It disgusted me.
Anonymous said...
OT.
Hey 016 dist burglary team. I was driving with my kids and as I past " Penny Pinchers " 4806 N. Central Ave. at 12:30 Two hypes( spansih and black looking)and others were waiting for the store to open they didn't have anything in their hands but because I was with my kids I didn't see if they had a car in the lot. ** something to check out ** there was a normal white guy with a bag witing to sell something and he even had his guard up.
2/16/2012 01:06:00 PM
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Lawyer: Officer why did you stop my client?
Officer: umm because they were black/spanish looking.
Lawyer: isnt that racial profiling?
Officer: but there was a normal white guy with a white bag looking to sell something!
Lawyer: pawn shops buy and pawn all the time!
016 district officers are well aware of the pawn shop!
How much will this cost us?
A federal judge today ordered that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy answer questions as part of a federal lawsuit over a fatal shooting last summer by a police officer.
Dump the cameras, Add Speed Bumps. Problem solved..
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But Speed Bumps Don't Increase Revenue... And Really...
Isn't that what this is Really All about Anyway $$$
i just bought a garmin dezl 560 lmt navigation system , it has a feature that warns you about upcoming red light cameras , and it works it picked up all the cameras on my route.
I know it also does speed cameras , but wont know how accurate it is until the city starts it up.
Anonymous said...
we are paying for all the people registering their car outside of the city but still live here..i drive down blocks in englewood where all the car are register to the suburbs..
2/16/2012 07:05:00 AM
play cuzzzzz'nzz are the best relatiffs fo show!
Hey 2/16/2012 04:58:00 PM
You are also obviously a byproduct of the Chicago Public School system.
The original poster stated "one tenth percent" (1/10th of 1%), so his/her "Maff" is spot-on.
READING IS A SKILL YOU FUCKING DUMMY!
No go get the XO some more parkers and impounds so you can wear jeans and a ball cap on your Friday when you chumps are 'allowed' to work that '06 car.
"do or do not. There is no try."
Dude, you missed your calling! You should be writing bumper stickers!
(especially for speeding cars!)
2/16/2012 05:08:00 PM
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Um, credit Yoda for the original quote, not 'dude'.
The inspiration was likely the American Indian tribes who had no word for 'try'.
Ot
This is good
More than likely, it’s a ‘no’ on the tear gas, said Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, despite the likelihood of some protesters coming to town to cause trouble.
“I’m trying to figure out how tear gas helps you control a crowd,” McCarthy said with a hint of incredulity. “It’s never really become clear to me.”
http://tinyurl.com/84azo2q
2/16/2012 08:32:00 PM
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Garry is unclear on SO many issues. Personal integrity comes to mind, for starters.
the elected goofs must also remember "we are watching you." Lets take the city sticker czar susie mendoza, now susie why do you normally come into work at 3 and leave at 5, on the days you do show up! Susie you make over over $150,000 per year,have a police spec car all decked out, free gas,free insurance, free maintenance.
Why susie are you telling a variety of people "This is only a 1term job, a stepping stone, so I can be secretary of state?"
Heads need to roll susie and maybe if you had the guts you could resign, now and abolish that office! You duplicate revenue at a much higher cost what say you susie??
Dear SCC, this just in:
Judge: Top cop must testify in lawsuit over officer-involved shooting
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-judge-top-cop-must-testify-in-lawsuit-over-officerinvolved-shooting-20120216,0,7702454.story
This is what happens when you can't help yourself and spew all kinds of retarded comments to the media about police work when you just don't have a clue!!!
"Jack up City Sticker fees on a completely arbitrary baseline of vehicle weight, suddenly making thousands of families minivans on the hook for a sizable increase, based on shoddy or imagined reporting that vehicles over that certain tonnage do more damage to city streets...." -- SCC
...while ignoring the 55' +, longer and longer and longer freight containers dragging dual rears across the sidewalks and smashing up every curb in town at intersections.
The city has moved all the light poles and signs and everything as far back as they can, blocking the sidewalks for everyone else -- and the "intermodal" boys keep welding on more length all the time.
No one does s__t about it.
Who hits the city off to let THIS go by every day?
""do or do not. There is no try."
Dude, you missed your calling! You should be writing bumper stickers!
(especially for speeding cars!)
2/16/2012 05:08:00 PM
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"Um, credit Yoda for the original quote, not 'dude'."
[Oops. I hope George Lucas got his cut when his quote was stolen!]
"The inspiration was likely the American Indian tribes who had no word for 'try'."
They supposedly had no swear words, either. BFD.
"How much will this cost us?
A federal judge today ordered that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy answer questions as part of a federal lawsuit over a fatal shooting last summer by a police officer."
If it's the one I'm thinking of, A LOT.
Stand by for some more bad publicity, folks.
The aldermen have the power they can shut the mayor out should they ever get any guts
"Will squad cars that are caught speeding without their emergency lights on or going to an assignment have to account for their actions? They do in LA and it could happen here. Beware. The same goes for red light cameras."
If the civilian owner of the vehicle is responsible for paying the ticket, the owner of EVERY vehicle should be responsible.
Fair is fair, right?
How much will this cost us?
A federal judge today ordered that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy answer questions as part of a federal lawsuit over a fatal shooting last summer by a police officer.
2/16/2012 09:47:00 PM
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MILLIONS. The man apparently loves the sound of his own voice.
"Cmon....people Speed in this city because there is Shit for Enforcement..."
People speed in this city because the traffic sucks.
A few months ago Chicago was rated among the worst for traffic.
There are too many stop signs and red lights. Many were installed simply to appease neighborhood whiners and businesses. The city will "split" the cost of a traffic light. If the biz puts up $50,000, the city will put up the "other $50k". (Side note: Do you really believe it costs $50,000 to install a traffic light?).
I live 18 miles from work. It takes me an hour, using city streets to get there. That means I'm averaging nine miles/hour.
Speeding? Really?
Speed bumps are fine....As long as you do not damage my car when I go over them at the legal speed limit. If I remember right, the legal speed limit is 30mph on city streets. If I have to slow down to under 15 to not do any damage to my car, there is something wrong with the speed bumps, but I'm sure Rahmmie will pay my repair bill. On the other side of the coin, SUV's can go over them at 30+mph without hardly feeling them. Recently had to have a squad towed due to undercarriage damage in our district. I'll bet it was due to a speed bump.
These stupid things are impossible to see, especially in salt covered streets, since you can't see the little white V's they put on them, and furthermore, the sign says "Speed BUMP ahead". How many times is there only ONE speed bump after you pass the sign?? NEVER, there is always at least two. Now, why doesn't the sign say, "2 speed bumps ahead", or "Speed BUMPS ahead" And how about an 'Arrow' sign at it's exact position?
Speed bumps are not the answer, I can't stand them.
2/16/2012 12:33:00 PM
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You're the police? And you think the legal limit on side streets is 30 mph?
Does anyone know who the "Drawer Czars" are in Area 2? I heard drawer space is being passed out based on how important you are and how many quarters your head could hold if it was a piggy bank.
we are paying for all the people registering their car outside of the city but still live here..i drive down blocks in englewood where all the car are register to the suburbs..
2/16/2012 07:05:00 AM
So True! Plate comes back registered in the burbs but the attached D.L. info comes to the house the car is parked in front of. Im sure there's a couple million they can squeeze out of fixing that.
I did get a ticket at that intersection. E/B Higgins to N/B Harlem. Turned left on a red arrow and saw the flashes. Got it in the mail about 4 wks later. It is a quick arrow, and it will get you on a left turn .
Can't wait to leave this shithole city. In a couple of months, no more Shitcago and no more Crook County for me. Suck it!
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Hey 2/16/2012 04:58:00 PM
You are also obviously a byproduct of the Chicago Public School system.
The original poster stated "one tenth percent" (1/10th of 1%), so his/her "Maff" is spot-on.
READING IS A SKILL YOU FUCKING DUMMY!
No go get the XO some more parkers and impounds so you can wear jeans and a ball cap on your Friday when you chumps are 'allowed' to work that '06 car.
2/16/2012 10:02:00 PM
Projecting a little bit??? Here is an idea. Why don't you go and tell the objects of your disdain what fucking chumps they are. You would think with the gun teams, sat teams, tact teams, gang teams, narcotics etc. walking around the 011 district that you could easily call out these chumps at a whim. Oh wait, are you still pretending to be someone else??
"Instead of these silly speed cameras around the schools "for the children" why not put speed bumps, that'll solve the "speeding" problem"
This was never "for the children";it was for the money. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY...
As i drove inbound on the ohio feeder traffic was slower then usual,
When i got to orleans street, To my amasement there was a toll booth set up. Big ol picture of rahm smiling, 1.75 please
Then i woke up from my dream
What I am most amazed at regarding the spped camera's is that none of the insurance companies said anything negative about the cameras.
This essentially removes speed camera tickets as a moving violation.
Hence the insurance companies cannot hold that against someone to raise their rates.
I live 18 miles from work. It takes me an hour, using city streets to get there. That means I'm averaging nine miles/hour.
Check your math.
The hell with the school cameras; its all about creating revenue. You know what, the hell with speed bumps. Hire more police. They can combat crime, deter crime and get speeders by schools (if any). Win Win situation. Can a camera or speed bump stop a battery or chase an armed robber or banger with a gun, No. A police officer can.
The speed limit in a school zone when children are present is 20mph...Have you ever tried going 20 miles per hour? It isn't easy and the $50 fine for 5 to 9 miles over the limit is going to bring in big dollars...What fuck up place to live. Speed cameras?
I live 18 miles from work. It takes me an hour, using city streets to get there. That means I'm averaging nine miles/hour.
Check your math.
2/17/2012 09:04:00 AM
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See, another reason why the bosses/city can pull the wool over blue shirts' eyes...not very good with numbers. Come on, guys, use your noggins! Maybe get "Math for Dummies" or take a remedial college math class!
Its ok, its for the kids...
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