Generating Money
A Chicago charter school franchise often touted by Mayor Rahm Emanuel has pocketed some $387,000 in fees over three years by issuing demerits for “minor infractions” ranging from not sitting up straight to openly carrying “flaming hot” chips, parents and students charged Monday.
The list of forbidden conduct at the Noble Street Charter Network is “as long as my arm’’ but adds up to a “dehumanizing discipline system that looks a lot more like a reform school than a college prep,’’ Julie Woestehoff of Parents United for Responsible Education charged at a news conference Monday.
At Noble Street schools, four demerits within two weeks triggers a three-hour detention costing $5. More than 12 detentions lands students in a behavior modification class costing $140.
Twenty-five to 36 detentions in one school year: two discipline classes, carrying a $280 pricetag. More than 36 detentions? Kids have to repeat the grade.
But fining people for untied shoelaces, droopy pants, not sitting up straight? Chicago might actually end up running a budget surplus within five years and fully funding the pension inside of ten.
It's worth a shot, right?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Now funding the pension as they are REQUIRED to do so is the best idea ever! With Rambo going after state tax refunds why not unleash rahm to get the pension solvent with this method! Worth a try!
Is there no end to how far Rahm and the Democratic Machine will go to steal your money? Now you have to pay extra for your kids after the taxes you pay to educate them because they forgot to tie a shoe?
So, they're trying to FORCE baby momma and daddy to do some actual parenting by threatening to fine their entitlement check?
Works for me!
Have at it.
Let it rip, man. Fine away.
Go sag, scream, hang, holler on your own time.
You here to learn something or not?
--2/14/2012 09:30:00 AM
How about a slap upside the head instead?
Anyting for the children...
...redistribute the wealth.
How about redistribute the work ethic.
I go back working for the CPD as far back as Richard J. Daley and this is the first administration that has made it a priority to downgrade the lives of it's police officers. WHY?
I am guessing that one can pull their kid out of this school if they want, so what is the problem? Go back to a regular public school if you do not like the rules.
I Have to send my kids to privite school in this city inorder to help guarantee they will be safer from gangs and other nonsense and be among others of their same culture. These parents are cpmining about couple bucks? Four kids in privite school costs me almost 35,000,,,,,, what a bunch of freeloaders
Like SCC stated it will be the parents of these kids paying the fines. Never heard of this kind of shit before. Where does all that money go?
If we save just one child??????
Is there anywhere that Rahm looks and doesn't see increased fees and taxes? Oh yeah he's not big on taxing or assessing fees on the welfare abusers mainly just the lower to upper middle class. The sheeple will only take so much of being bled dry. Then the revolt will begin.
Anonymous said...
"...The sheeple will only take so much of being bled dry. Then the revolt will begin.
2/15/2012 03:04:00 AM
The revolt has ALREADY begun. It's called the Occupy Wall Street movement and it's branches, Occupy Oakland, Washington, Chicago etc.
The granddaddy of them all will be here in about 10 weeks. Stay tuned.
shit, adopt these same rules, and fines for their repeated violation, to every chicago public school.
it's the only way we, the working citizens, will ever get some portion of a return on our property tax financed investment.
Sounds like a typical Shylock lawyer scam applied to the scab schools by his buddy Rangel.
Cha-ching!!!!!!!
Dont start commenting that is a good idea. Its merely a deflection from something that really important they dont want us to know about.
Studies have shown time and time again that charter school students score no higher than their regular school counterparts. They have the same type of discipline problems as their counterparts, they just keep it on the hush-hush. Dont think for a second that this money or the money from the speed cameras will ever be allocated for the schools, it wont. Oh, AND charter school teachers are vastly underpaid in comparison to thier cps counterparts and they DO NOT HAVE A UNION! That is the real reason why everything spoken about them is always portrayed in the media as positive, cost-saving, effective. Another tactic to bust up the union.
About time they make the trouble makers pay for their misdeeds. Maybe the regular CPS schools will follow the Charter Schools lead. Maybe CPD can use it to generate funds because of bad parenting skill. For example, baby don't want to go school. Charge $7.00. Make it a nuisance fee. This can be used to shore up our pension fund.
Reform School might be what they need...
Is there anywhere that Rahm looks and doesn't see increased fees and taxes? Oh yeah he's not big on taxing or assessing fees on the welfare abusers mainly just the lower to upper middle class. The sheeple will only take so much of being bled dry. Then the revolt will begin.
2/15/2012 03:04:00 AM
The revolt has already begun.
I like the idea. These punks don't have discipline in the first place. The director is right, attention to detail makes a big difference, and it has a trickle down effect. The majority of the kids and parents don't care. The only way to make the patents care and take a "parenting" role in lil jrs life, is to hit them in the pocket book. Why not? They can pull their kid out if they want. For the most part our charter schools were becoming a joke too! Just another baby sitting outlet for the baby momma. Now, how about the charter schools change the racist enrollment quotas and accept more white students.
OK here goes,
The Noble network of Schools is not all that bad. I have three kids (one at a Noble H.S. one at my Old H.S.(Private) and one in Grade School (Public). My oldest goes to one of the Noble (along with some other CPD kids) and they are strict like Rita and Rice used to be when we went there or Bogan and Schurz used to be. I know some of my oldest kids friends who are seniors and their parents they come from all over and they all have the same goal we have to get a good education for our kids so they can do something productive in life. I don't agree with all of the policies there but for the most part they don't play and I like that, I do however think that gigiing a kid for their shoe being untied, etc is crazy but hey who am I. Depending on the campus you get a variety of kids from all over the city and socioeconomic backgrounds. If CPS was like this we would have a better graduation rate and kids would stand a chance against other when they go to college.
Point being lets make the pols get their S*&T together and stop wasting our hard earned money and fix the PENSION, SCHOOLS, STREETS(as in craziness. Make the suburbs pay into the pension funds!! No wonder they are almost/are broke since they don't have to make contributions.
Steps down off of Soapbox
I think it's a great idea, it's about time for some people to start being a responsible adult. Nothing like hitting people in the pocket book to make the point. If the so called loving parents don't like having to pay money for juniors behavior then by all means, pay money and send them to a private school. I'm all for this!
When the kid's fines add up to around $10,000 then I might care. That is the cost of education my child at a Catholic learning institution. The teachers cannot slap little Johnny around like the Nuns did to us as kids, so if fines are what keeps the little darlings in line I am in favor. If the parents are upset then let them put their darlings back into the school they came from.
"The list of forbidden conduct at the Noble Street Charter Network is “as long as my arm’’ but adds up to a “dehumanizing discipline system that looks a lot more like a reform school than a college prep,’’ Julie Woestehoff of Parents United for Responsible Education charged at a news conference Monday."
SO DON'T SEND YOUR KIDS THERE.
I agree with the Raccoon on this one point.
Attendance at this school is VOLUNTARY.
"Parents United For Flamin' Hot Chip Bags, Saggin', Sleepin', and Permanent Markers."
Don't worry about the fines. No matter what you do wrong at this school, Suzana Mendoza and Father Michael Pfleger will very publicly pick up the tab.
Yeah sweet thought but in the end it's our tax money paying for these infractions!
Now funding the pension as they are REQUIRED to do so is the best idea ever! With Rambo going after state tax refunds why not unleash rahm to get the pension solvent with this method! Worth a try!
Because the money will never reach the Pension fund
how can u.s politician sell roads that belong to the people of the u.s to foreign company for such long periods of time as 99 years?
My kid goes to one of these schools and as a public school product myself I see the difference in the quality of kids. Shame on those kids that were protesting ,the teachers are young and motivivated without any hood attitude teaching is actually being done with little distractions that even exist in high priced private schools
it sounds like a scam..how about we fine politicians for making bad decisions with taxs payer dollars..
One school of thought is that a highly structured environment lends itself to better learning. The trouble is that is isn't the kids paying the fines/fees. But fining people for untied shoelaces, droopy pants, not sitting up straight?
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Put the nuns in charge of this. I assure you the kids will be educated and the City of Chicago will have a surplus of unlimited funds.
The revolt has ALREADY begun. It's called the Occupy Wall Street movement and it's branches, Occupy Oakland, Washington, Chicago etc.
The granddaddy of them all will be here in about 10 weeks. Stay tuned.
2/15/2012 05:32:00 AM
uh, i think you're referring to a significantly different 'revolt'.
"But fining people for untied shoelaces, droopy pants, not sitting up straight?"
Send em' to a Catholic school ...
Of course the parents would HAVE TO PAY for that. Like we do ...
The priests and nuns will slap the shit out of em' for free, no fines !
2/15/2012 02:50:00 PM
Young and motivated!
These are young women out of Iowa or Wisconsin coming to the big bright lights of the city.
You are a self serving individual who obviously is clueless about the desperation faced by these young and motivated.
They are treated like slaves at these schools, paid 1/3 of a regular CPS school have no union/union their way and are at will workers; often times with little/no benefits. They have to sweep, wash, their own rooms and working on weekends or until late at night. The average charter school teacher gets booted after 3 years, after they are no longer so young and motivated.
Since the above is of no concern to you, I should add that a regular CPS school teacher has an Illinois State certificate, often a Masters in their subject area and years of professional development. This is not the average charter school teacher. Your child will get a better quality education from a more qualified CPS teacher.
Not so young but smarter!!!!!
The Teacher
Since the above is of no concern to you, I should add that a regular CPS school teacher has an Illinois State certificate, often a Masters in their subject area and years of professional development. This is not the average charter school teacher. Your child will get a better quality education from a more qualified CPS teacher.
Not so young but smarter!!!!!
The Teacher
2/15/2012 08:32:00 PM
somehow, i doubt your veracity.
Is this shit even legal?
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