Limitations
As a number of readers have pointed out, crowding 002 with tons of cops isn't going to be easy. In fact, the locker situation is said to be desperate and new people will be living out of their cars for the foreseeable future.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but isn't that how Thor got killed?
Not to put too fine a point on it, but isn't that how Thor got killed?
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
43 Comments:
The Racoon doesn't see it that way. He could care less what your accommodations are in the districts. He just wants to parade the "new" officers around these shit districts to make it look like we have more cops. Fact is we have less. This little fucking conniving turd is putting so many lives at risk. I hope he gets his just deserts in the end. Probably not. Nothing will be his fault and he will move on to bigger jobs. Fucking rat mother fucker!
From what I gather from the thread directly proceeding this one, it sounds like two more lockers just opened up.
That's me - making lemonade outta lemons!
I thought they told us that more police isn't the answer.
Not to beat this dead horse, but they eliminate TRU/MSF, who saturated these troubled areas.
Now they saturate these very same areas with police.
Wheel. Reinvented.
rb
Lockers?????hahaha this department is so soft these days
Just a thought;
I believe Dist. 002 is the oldest dist./det. area in the city????
Built around 1969 or so, maybe older????
And it has had a history of dis-repair in the last 15 years with leaks into the lockup area and into the basement washroom areas?
Why in the world would you want to save that building?
And area 2 is just about in the same shape, a loser.
If you want to have only 3 areas, maybe they should build three brand new ones that would actually hold the amount of officers and detectives that have to work there, and provide adequate secured parking also?
Since we are trimming down our waistlines, maybe it's time for the extra 25 Aldermen to go also?
Their salaries would cover quite a few bills Mr. Mayor.
Just a Taxpayer.
These mutts watch our every move.
Dressing for work out of your car is not what a police officer should be doing.
Not only is it a safety issue (RIP Thor) but how many will have their equipment stolen from their vehicles?
There is horrible oversight with the lockers in 002. Retirees still have locks on theirs. The gang guys still have on their locks, multiple lockers being used by po's. Lockers rusted out with repair signs on them for years. Fix the mess and on the male side most of the people from 021 should be ok. Or if its business as usual everyone of them will be dressing at home or in lot.
I think per contract,the city is required to provide every two officers one locker. That means move your shit over because they may require you to share your locker. Supervisors are required to have their own locker. Now thats interesting.
I lived out of my car for three years. You just have to stay alert about your surroundings and you'll be fine.
In addition to all of the added officers from 021, there will be an additional 112 dicks coming from former Areas 4 & 5 in early March. Maybe they should have keep one of the project buildings up and made that the new 002nd District/Central Detective division!
Ever try to find parking at area one now, wait till all those detectives and officers get moved there and see what happens. Guys will be parking on wentworth
City buys face shields to protect cops from G-8 protesters
Chicago Police officers facing off against protesters during the NATO and G-8 Summits will be equipped with new face shields that fit comfortably over gas masks and include a seal to prevent officers from being blinded by liquids thrown at them.
Fraternal Order of Police President Mike Shields demanded the new shields to prevent officers from being blinded by bags of urine and feces thrown at them by “anarchists” and other hard-core protesters.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/10622261-
418/city-buys-face-shields-to-protect-cops-from-g-8-protesters.html
The company cares about us being killed. Just ask them. Lower the flags to half mast and everything.
wtf are we in the stone ages!!!! you think coppers in L.A. New York and other major cities have no lockers or have to share lockers. even smaller suburban towns take better care of their police then shitcago does. you know why? because their administration cares about the police unlike RACOON EYES and MCSTUPID.
023 is building a locker room in an impound garage. It has a raised wooden floor over the drainhole that now emits noxious odors because it isn't properly vented. These consolidations are a MAJOR mistake.
wear your uniform to work!just cover up!problem solved!NOW GET OUT THERE!
Someone posted about how many years it takes to get days in 002? Here is the overall picture prior to 021 absorption.
1st Watch is 5 years.
2nd Watch is 18 years.
3rd Watch is 8 years.
I expect all these minimums to go up at least 2-3 years for all Watches post absorption.
That is all.
Can I still wear my 21st District name tag when I order up at Ricobenes?
Hello FOP,
Safety issue big time and the FOP should be making a lot of noise. Every member in this department should start calling the lodge to flood them with calls until this problem is corrected. That is how Thor was murdered and once again the city shows they have no regard for the safety of the police officers that protect them.
Call the lodge , flood them with calls.
This is ridiculous
We all had to live out of our cars during operation protect youth, i felt it was very dangerous/disater waiting to happen. I was very jumpy and looking over both shoulders while taking vest off and switching gun from duty belt to pancake holster out of my cars trunk. Many of the people sent to that gig were older cops that had been working indoors for 10-15 years. Its dangerous and downtown doesn't care. Bring a bag for equip. and change inside. Be safe.
A locker audit is necessary in 002, with all the jerks doubling up and keeping two lockers. Not to mention the people detailed out who are still storing their riot bags there.
Sometimes you have to call it as it is. But wasn't Thor assigned to the academy and he was killed at the old 007, while working his day off? or was he working one of those safe city initiatives?
So wear your gear to work.
Off topic. Damn, I thought my prayers had been answered when I read the headline.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/14/ballerina-killed-by-cars-while-trying-to-help-wounded-animal/#ixzz1mKl4gZHf?test=latestnews
Half of the 002nd district is vacant lots and the high rise projects are all gone and most of the low rise are vacant and what was the old 021st district rarely has any jobs. You don't need all these bodies going to the 002nd district. Spread them out elsewhere where they are greatly needed more.
"There is horrible oversight with the lockers in 002. Retirees still have locks on theirs. The gang guys still have on their locks, multiple lockers being used by po's. Lockers rusted out with repair signs on them for years. Fix the mess and on the male side most of the people from 021 should be ok. Or if its business as usual everyone of them will be dressing at home or in lot."
--2/14/2012 04:16:00 AM
Go dress at the Hyatt Hotel over on 53rd and Lake Park.
The City of Chicago just gave the University of Chicago 20 MILLION DOLLARS to build the place.
There are your lousy lockers.
This 021 district elimination sweetened by a $20 million city giveaway to the University of Chicago is a perfect example of what's called the Delphi Technique -- making a decision, then "opening a period for public comment" or holding a meeting that isn't going to make the slightest difference in what happens.
"Community members said they were not necessarily opposed to the consolidation.
“I appreciated that we had the meeting so that people can voice their concerns,” President of forum co-sponsor Coalition for Equitable Community Development Pat Wilcoxen said. “I’m not alarmed by what I heard. It may be a reasonable thing to take this opportunity to right-size [the districts].”
...and there you have it.
http://chicagomaroon.com/2011/11/04/community-responds-to-cpd-plan/
"City buys face shields to protect cops from G-8 protesters"
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/10622261-418/city-buys-face-shields-to-protect-cops-from-g-8-protesters.html
--2/14/2012 06:38:00 AM
Why?
Occupy says they're "peaceful." Ald. Joe Moreno is sending them trays of coffee and snacks from Starbucks.
What's the problem?
There we go with that "doomsday thinking" again.
I mean, just becasue they did about $4 million of damage in Oakland, California...
Like Mayor Emanuel says, "That was yesterday."
I lived out of my car for three years. You just have to stay alert about your surroundings and you'll be fine.
2/14/2012 05:43:00 AM
Shut up stupid! Bend over a little farther, Rahm hasn't finished breaking it off yet.
Oops. Forgot to put this link up to the giveaway story --
Changes coming to Hyde Park
"The main project is a Hyatt hotel and office tower at 53rd Street and South Lake Park Avenue, partly funded with $20 million from the city. The university, which owns the land, and LA Fitness are the anchor tenants of the office building. The developer hopes to bring 10 to 15 shops to the street-level space.
"The University also has purchased a number of buildings around the hotel project, including the former Borders building where clothing chain Akira will open a flagship store in the fall. The U. of C. also owns the building where the New 400 Theaters will open in November, and the building adjacent to it, where a Five Guys Burgers and Fries set up shop in September. Across the street the university renovated a building where a Clarke's restaurant is opening Monday."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-11/business/ct-biz-0212-uofc-devel-20120128_1_hyde-park-neighborhoods-hotel-project
"023 is building a locker room in an impound garage. It has a raised wooden floor over the drainhole that now emits noxious odors because it isn't properly vented. These consolidations are a MAJOR mistake."
--2/14/2012 08:14:00 AM
Jesus God. I can see it rotting now, old gasoline and oil stink and standing water, Mold City under there, your foot'll go through it and there's another huge lawsuit against the city.
How long will it take, and how much will it cost, for Vanecko Exterminating to tear that motherf__er right back up and bait the whole place?
If anyone knows how to built rat habitat, it's Emanuel.
Comes naturally, I guess.
OT --
Channel 9 News reporting -- city and state have come together in classic Daley-style "extraterritorial jurisdiction."
IF YOU OWE THE CITY MONEY IT WILL COME OUT OF YOUR STATE INCOME TAX REFUND.
"Bend over a little farther, Rahm hasn't finished breaking it off yet."
--2/14/2012 03:02:00 PM
Boy, you got that right.
Yesterday, it was $65.00 "gun titles," today the city will take money out of your state income tax refund to pay tickets, etc. -- and tomorrow the bus fares will skyrocket.
Here it comes again; the Delphi Technique. Make a decision and then pretend to "take surveys," solicit public comments," "hold meetings" -- none of which will affect the decision in the slightest.
"Hypothetical..."
Yeah, right.
CTA Survey Asks Riders’ Opinions About Hypothetical Fare Hike
February 14, 2012 4:35 PM
CHICAGO (CBS) – Would you pay double or more the current fare for a ride on the CTA? That’s one of the questions on a new survey the CTA sent to some of its customers...
"One of the options in the survey is a $3.50 fare for the bus, a transfer would be 75 cents and, if it’s rush hour, tack on another $1 to the fare. That would mean a cost of $5.25 for someone who took a CTA bus and transferred to a train during rush hour..."
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/02/14/cta-survey-asks-riders-opinions-about-hypothetical-fare-hike/
Working people pay double full boat. "Flash mobs" ride free, of course...
warning... http://dadaarchive.chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/95710/index.php
Anonymous said...
Sometimes you have to call it as it is. But wasn't Thor assigned to the academy and he was killed at the old 007, while working his day off? or was he working one of those safe city initiatives?
2/14/2012 10:24:00 AM
Thor was working OPY at the old 007th Dist. Officers working OPY do not have nor are they offered/given lockers at that location.
Since Thor's death, most officers go to their unit of assignemt first and change there then report for duty at OPY. This adds about an hour to front and to the end of each tour of duty.
How sad that an officer's passing has not changed this department in any way.
RIP Thor.
Anonymous said...
023 is building a locker room in an impound garage. It has a raised wooden floor over the drainhole that now emits noxious odors because it isn't properly vented. These consolidations are a MAJOR mistake.
2/14/2012 08:14:00 AM
Someone give the contractor a few bucks to pour some concrete down that vent hole.
off topic: Shaved has a topic on 9.5 buying 3,057 face shields for $193,461.
This comes out to $63.28 per shield.
On the companies website a regular shield costs $30.00. Let's see, with the quantity and police discount that means that they just double the cost for Chicago. Even with a special design this is too much! Good thing 9.5 didn't have to get a bid on these.
Also does this mean that we only have 3,057 patrolmen now? What about the other 9,000 mystery police. Don't they deserve face protection?
Yeah............Right....!!!
023 has bigger problems than the new locker room. Internal issues are rampant. And yes, the sewer "p trap" will dry up and start emitting sewer gasses. There is a triple catch basin inside that garage and unless continuously filled, will also dry up and emit fumes. I heard that new locker room is for supervisors only. If I get moved into that room, I will grieve it.
I have three lockers and ain't giving up shit. You'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
"023---yes, the sewer "p trap" will dry up and start emitting sewer gasses. There is a triple catch basin inside that garage and unless continuously filled, will also dry up and emit fumes..."
--2/14/2012 11:17:00 PM
...not to mention rats. Perfect dark, close haven for them.
Since the place was used as a garage, there is probably old gasoline/oil accumulation down there. This drives city/state/federal Depts. Of Environment absolutely bugs, "oil getting into groundwater," etc.
If they get a notion to, they will have the whole thing ripped out and they'll drill "sampling wells" around the whole building, guys in hard hats with clipboards walking around for years and years afterwards. I've seen it.
Considering 002 looks like its going to lose about 15 cops....it now looks like a good idea.
023 already has mice/rats and bug problems. There's traps all over that building and parking garage.
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