Legitimacy and Mutual Respect
It seems the Department has come up with yet another completely useless and mind-numbing bit of tomfoolery to waste money, probably in the form of block grants to storefront reverends or something similar. A sharp-eyed reader found this in the Document Management System and sent it along (B.O.P. #12-0106 issued on 07 May 2012 if you want to find it):
- The Education and Training Division has been tasked with developing a curriculum regarding Legitimacy and Mutual Respect. 007 and 011 District personnel are the first to receive this training.
007 and 011 districts will select nine (9) personnel from either 2nd or 3rd watches. The personnel may be of any rank below command staff. 007 and 011 will determine how many personnel from each watch will attend. 1st watch personnel will not be selected for training at this time.
There are another two paragraphs about dates, times and contact info. But really? Legitimacy and Mutual Respect? It certainly isn't the cops running around 007 and 011 shooting people on a near daily basis, and then disrespecting the victims/offenders. Ain't nothing legit about all that. Who the hell is getting paid off for this one?
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
111 Comments:
What happened to the 16th Dist, we could use some of that dumbass philosifizing.
I"ll be the rev. too!
Legitimacy and mutual respect.
And here, I thought the topic was going to be about how we're being treated by the mayor, regarding overtime and pension issues.
Federal / Obama money being wasted?
VOTE IN NOVEMBER ! ! !
DUMB DUMB AND DUMMER!!! Morale went up after NATO and now they want to bring it back down a notch. Hey, if it's not broke don't fix it!
I nominate adam z. For this training !
I got your curriculum right here yeah right here you know what I'm sayin'
In less than ten minutes we'll cover everything you need to know.
MC Hammer -- Too Legit To Quit
AND
Aretha Franklin - Respect
R-E-S-P-E-C-T FIND OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO ME...hahahah.
15 years in 011 so I know a thing or 2 about this bullshit they're trying to sell... my opinion start teaching the kids in the hood this ...we already know this from our parents we were raised right we know how to balance respect ..the citizens in 7 and 11 don't. Look how they kill rob rape each other..I will gladly volunteer for this class and set the record straight ..LIFM..
how about the cities refusal to pay time and one half for all people in dog64 who were cancelled days off sunday and monday--- friday is day number 6 and the collective bargaining agreement clearly states that anyone working 6 or seven days in a row will receive compensation at time and one half for those days worked--- the city will not pay it so a class action grievance was filled by the union.....
I like where the department is going with this.
Word association and hocus pocus type shit keeps the savages entertained and preoccupied.
7 & 11 are winners on the come out and 7-11 is a mighty fine place to spend your dice game winnings.
"Nachos wiff meat an' excra pump cheeze for all my bitches!!"
Since McCarthy came here he has been notifying the upper level exempts that he wants the police to reach out to the black community and gain their trust. He's made them sit through numerous "learning sessions" and asked for their input. This must be the end result.
Didn't even take a week for him to blow that new found respect amongst the troops.
Same old routine for this town. Politicians say they save money cutting pay and benefits to city workers then piss it away paying off asshole reverends just to keep them quiet. Been going on for years and will never stop...until the city runs out of money. And that is right now.
Does anyone really believe The Evil One is not going to pay that $50 million to the Parking Sharks? Wake up fools. He will pay that bill plus interest. The city entered into a contract with those foreign thieves and it will stand up in court. That will be the Racoon's out. The judge made me pay up. While everyone is praising the outgoing US Attorney Fitzgerald maybe someone should have asked him why this parking meter deal was never investigated by him. And the Speed Camera deal? Corruption goes into the highest places. Selective prosecution.
WHAT IS WITH THE P.O's Working at 26/Cal? Who do you think you are? AKA Stewies mom from "The Family Guy"! #1 don't ask me what I'm doing there! I obviously arrested somebody that's why I'm there, something you probably haven't done in the last 5 yrs.#2. When a P.O. Walks into your little secluded office, at least get up off your lazy A$$ and ask them how you could help them. God Forbid you have to take one second away from looking up your yahoo Email, Facebook account, EBAY,listening to your IPOD, etc.Enjoy your cushy days spot, wknds off, don't take all your PMS anger out on working P.O's! Now go change Stewies diaper!!!
This type of course should be taught in every public school, kindergarten through high school. And when that fails make it required as part of parole.
I doesn't take an egghead to see that Respect is not being taught in public elementary schools.
Liberals.
Thank Goodness for over educated idiots!
My (not a cop) experience in state govt. with these things is that an in-law has a half assed consulting firm and they slap together a bunch of touchy/feely crap from old college courses and make big bucks.
Take a tip from the City of Detroit's new money-saver. No more street lights at night, particularly on the West and South Sides. Save millions.
Establish a moratorium on municipal flowerbeds and wrought iron fences. Casinos are long overdue. Like certain counties in Nevada, legalize brothels with high taxes for patrons. Also legalize government sales of an ounce or less of marijuana and tax the bejeezus out of it. Also eliminate the embargo on the sales of Cuban cigars within the city limits. Add an additional 50% tax on the sales of 40 oz. bottles of malt liquor, muscatel and mentholated cigarettes.
Utilize prison inmates to dig ditches and general labor for a penny an hour wages.
you all know rahm's buddies just brought the reader. ben might be looking for a job soon.
Anonymous said...
I nominate adam z. For this training !
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Funny you should say that. Z was the first sergeant nominated to go to the only class they've held - the one right before NATO. Word is he was very entertaining with his talking back.
I second Sgt Z from 011 for this training followed by Sgt JT. Together they have managed to make 3rd watch coppers more hostile than George Zimmerman at the NAACP convention. Send em back!
OT ref NATO: The Lt's union has filed 2 grievances about pay and assignments that resulted from NATO details. Both are class action. Give them bars the credit - they fight for their membership all the time.
SCC--I'm wondering if you're being bombarded with comments from the black blockheads. I got home one day and saw a couple of comments from them that you later removed.
How has it been, if you don't mind answering?
Thanks for keeping things going as much as you did. I was using my Iphone when I could to check for updates, since where I was we didn't have a radio.
I don't think ANY residents in 007 or 011 could even spell those two words, let alone grasp their definitions! And from what I've seen, maybe not a lot of coppers, either. Sorry, just telling it like it is. Not all, just some.
I volunteer my myself...I dont have respect for the typical ghetto hoodrat.
OT:
Sgt. Class out next Friday:
40 Sgts.
25 Lts.
All lists to come down.
Fuck the respect, I'll take a court date over respect any day of the week.
011
What a good idea, sign me up. I think I need to better respect the officers in 011.
Signed,
Tricky
Is this for real? Our commander has stated several times in roll call that we have 'friends' in 007, including reverends, that are more than willing to help us. However, he states that because we may treat them a certain way they don't come forward and tell us who killed so and so. I love how we get threatened, battered, spit at, cursed at and ignored when giving orders but WE are the ones who need training. I'm sorry but are we the ones killing, raping, burglarizing, robbing, beating, drinking at all times of the day, standing on corners instead of getting a job, washing the car instead of the home??????
I'd rather see my tax dollars sent to Greece!
Just when ya think there are no more STUPID & WASTEFUL ideas to throw money away.
Anonymous said...
how about the cities refusal to pay time and one half for all people in dog64 who were cancelled days off sunday and monday--- friday is day number 6 and the collective bargaining agreement clearly states that anyone working 6 or seven days in a row will receive compensation at time and one half for those days worked--- the city will not pay it so a class action grievance was filled by the union.....
5/25/2012 02:20:00
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SCC Fan said...
Since McCarthy came here he has been notifying the upper level exempts that he wants the police to reach out to the black community and gain their trust. He's made them sit through numerous "learning sessions" and asked for their input. This must be the end result.
Didn't even take a week for him to blow that new found respect amongst the troops.
5/25/2012 04:54:00 AM
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I believe a couple of smarter, more tenured posters tried reminding all you Koolaide drinkers that your Supe Is nothing more than a politician bending to his masters every whim while trying to salvage what's left of his career and reputation since he landed in Chicago. I even believe his St. Sabina lecture on "Government Sponsored Racism" was referenced as reminder of where he's coming from. Now you guys are being denied overtime in violation of your contract? Right after you were heroes just a few days ago? Say it ain't so, Joe! The Rahmfather is trying to pull yet another fast one on his backbone of city employees?
Hate to say it, but YOU GUYS GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESERVE. You need to learn to put aside the pride and bravado and let the city implode - if even a little bit - until they see just how valuable you guys really are. All these a**holes understand is $$$$$, so maybe a week or two w/o tickets written may be something to look at.
Godspeed bothers in blue!!!
Only sgts and above should go and the class should be taught by a real P.O.
This sounds like a "Rendon."
It's the citizens and politicians that need training on legitimacy and respect of us!
This is pure, unadultered race pandering nothing more.
Does this mean that they are going to cross train all parents, teachers and social workers in police work?
What most hair gels will never learn is that a little bullshit can avoid a lot of problems.
Huh??? You are gonna teach the assholes in the ghetto to respect the police? I had to look at my calendar. I thought it was April Fools Day when I read this!
Detective list is no more as of today. Looks like the Detective promotion is going bye bye in the next contract.
Didn't the Trib report two separate incidents yesterday where perps shot at officers? One of 'em apparently had an AK.
Will perps also be getting these mandatory lectures about mutual respect?
Won't work.... but an air strike will.
Just more crap. Same shit, different name. I cannot get the f*ck off this job fast enough. 1.5 years to go. I can't believe people still want to come on this job.
You'd have more chance for career advancement at McDonald's. STAY AWAY!!!!
You will never take my mind or my soul! I will never believe reeducation lies!!
Patriots one and all!!!
Completely useless. A problem that will never be fixed due to the enabling done on the part of those in power. All this does is serve to shift the blame for crimes committed from those who do to those who don't; specifically, the police officers who work to arrest those who break laws. This problem will never go away because of the way it's handled. The first step to recovery in alcoholism is to admit the problem. Regarding crime and black communities, this isn't, hasn't, and won't ever happen. Money is dumped (wasted) on the problem so that a politician can grandstand and proclaim how much money he brought to the problem. The issue is, in the end the money is ultimately stolen by community activists, reverends, and the like. Pfleger's billboards offering a $5,000 dollar reward for information on public school students being killed a few years ago? If you remember he was on the news after every kid got killed demanding justice, then he suddenly stopped. After attracting too much heat, he was bought for $5,000,000 to start the fund to give out the rewards if he stayed out of the news. How many citizens have you heard at work talk about someone in any busy district claiming that reward? This problem will only get worse, it's a sickening thing really.
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
I'll tell you what they should have. They should have a curriculum for all the Illinois and Chicago politicians on integrity.
Example:
Think that signed contracts by Illinois politicians like our union contracts mean anything?
Go ask the parking meter deal people about the $50 million dollars the city owes them based upon a contract that the city signed and see what they say.
In fact there is said to be over $9
billion dollars in unpaid bills in Illinois. Are they honoring their words?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-23/illinois-treads-water-as-unpaid-bills-top-9-billion.html
also, when the don't hold up their end of the bargain sometimes it's put back on the pension paying employee to pay more to enable the politicians to steal more for pet projects of clouted friends.
"...Democratic Governor Pat Quinn has proposed a voluntary 3 percent increase in pension contributions from current employees and a cut in cost-of-living increases for retirees.
“Bold action” is required to save the retirement systems, the governor told reporters in Chicago April 20. In fiscal 2010, Illinois had the lowest-funded state pension in the U.S., with assets equal to 45.4 percent of projected obligations, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. .."
Hahahah ...does the use of the "Bold action" phase invoke a feel-good emotion?
"Bold actions" are good right? How could you be afraid of a "bold action"? The pension debt doesn't scare them they're gonna take a "bold action" and make everyone else pay more and get less.
Man it's way past time to start thinking about the integrity of the people that we're working for. I mean at the drop of a hat they could just stop writing peoples paychecks and not think twice about it. We'll be told that "it's necessary" and that's that.
ILLINOIS CARES? -- NO THEY DON'T NOT ANYMORE!
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more picking and choosing read here >>
http://capitolfax.com/2012/05/25/best-of-the-best-of-todays-medicaid-stories/
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
7 & 11 are winners on the come out and 7-11 is a mighty fine place to spend your dice game winnings.
5/25/2012 02:50:00 AM
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When the game is being run by ol' snake eyes, little joe from Kokomo and that square pair from Delaware you know you're gonna get crapped on.
Boxcar's!
"Legitimacy and Mutual Respect"
Sounds like and extension of the
Circle jerk "Reach Around Strategy"
Sure, they tell you that they will call you in the morning....but you know they never do.
"Legitimacy and Mutual Respect"
Of course I'm wearing one...can't you feel it?
This "training" should be the other way around. No matter how much brain washing the elite and their media outlets attempts to convey, I know the truth is the truth. .
OT--seriously, I have searched for black bloc, photos of cops from protesters, articles reflecting their spin on NATO Chicago, and I can't seem to find a thing. Have they gone back into their hidey-holes?
Cannot find any protest sites with any recent news from Chicago.
I think these people are out of steam.
Post NATO honeymoon is over and it is now back to reality .
Like 007 and 011 don't have enough to do already.
how are you today mr. play preacher in the store front with the mispelled lettering anything i can get for the congregation today, of course,harolds chicken a case of grape pop and may i and my partner please be allowed to drop a 50 dollar love offering into the basket, and oh yes. we will pay your light and gas bill for your play church and do repairs while off duty,
Is the Mayor and the Alderthieves attending this in regards to our contract and our pension? The should start at the top.
Everything that is guiding McCarthy is in a book entitled Dont Shoot: An End to Violence in America. One of the final steps in this parigm is regaining the respect of the community by going before it and admitting that the police has damaged it by trying to arrest our way out of the crime problem. The first step is a public apology- i,e, the St Sabina's speech. Then we admitt we are wrong. The net step is to regain the confidence of the community by reaching out to the community by providing it jobs facilitated by the police. This book also refrences efforts in 11 and talks of what a success it was.
Here is something new and show all of us how fucked up this department is, in the 010 district commander had meeting with sgts, sgts were allowed to pick po's that work 2nd watch, to be supervised under them. And at the end of the tour sgts have to write a to from with the activity from these po's. 4 contact cards, parkers/movers are required otherwise you will lose your car/starting times. Isn't all this quotas, oops I forgot we don't have quotas. Goes to show you what happens when you have a commander that has been promoted thru merit and doesn't know how to run a district effectively. Ruiz was moved the 4th district because he did such a good job in 010 why all the changes.
OT:
P. Shades back in 006. Wreaking havoc already!! \,,/
Wow, this reminds me of a class the CFD made us sit through one time about respecting others. A guy named Samuel Betances made a huge pile of cash giving seminars to us about respecting others, it was like $180k for just 2 weeks of lectures. He started out the seminar by telling us "say my name...Sam-u-el Bet-en-ses" 3 times, like we were 1st graders, along with other brainwashing tricks. I guess it worked because i still remember the mope's name. The brass stayed in the room to make sure noone booed him. Good luck guys, hopefully it's not the same idiot..
Mutual respect is another name for that verbal judo they taught me in the academy last year. One of the instructors there says he is a expert on the subject. They want the beat cops in 007 and 011 to be more friendly to the community. Forget arrests and police work. Smile and be nice. I wonder who will be stuck as trainers from the districts? How much more can they dump on those 2 districts?
I got your curriculum right here yeah right here you know what I'm sayin'
In less than ten minutes we'll cover everything you need to know.
MC Hammer -- Too Legit To Quit
the video.....was that taken at one of the 35th Street meetings?
Please stop fucking with us in 007 & 011. Avoiding Z/S and T/S is already a fulltime job.
actually I'd love to go to this class .... WHAT A FUCKING JOKE ... I could shit on the teacher's desk and tell him he still has to respect me ....
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
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Revolvers don't come in two shots, first of all.
You have to auxiliary qualify with the revolver if you get one.
Better off with a smaller version of your duty weapon (smaller Smith, smaller Beretta, mini-XD, etc.) Then you don't have to requalify with it if it's the same maker and caliber.
To female PO- buy a 5 shot. 38 hammerless revolver. A S&W airweight model. Easy to carry
Everytime I reached out to the black community in Englewood, I ended up at OPS giving statements. They have no sense of humor.
Female PO Looking for a small gun:
Check out the S&W Model 642 Ladysmith Airweight Revolver. It’s made of an alloy not steel and weighs just less than one pound. It’s a 5-shot- no hammer, w/1.5" barrel, and will fit in your pocket. Yes, you’ll look like you have a tumor on your ass, but if you ass is that nice, put it in a front pocket. They should be looking into your eyes or at your breast anyway. Even a 2-shot .38 cal is made of steel and will weigh close to this, and the kick will probably significantly loosen your grip. Carry something you can use, not just something for peace of mind. A good 5-shot vs. a useless 2-shot... and the Ladysmith is Dept approved. And if your ass is that nice… call me!! Just kidding. Good luck, make a wise choice!
It may not be a bad idea. Back when I worked in 011, I saw plenty of times when some of our own officers made certain situations worse by the way they spoke
to the people who called for police service. I even
saw a few times when people who came into the
station were spoken to very harshly by some of the
011desk crews. Now I know a bunch of you are
going to bash me for it, but if you've ever worked
in 011, I know you've seen this stuff happen too.
Lots of times. So I won't say that this class/seminar
whatever isn't needed. During my time in 011, I
managed to make friends with many citizens of
the community out there, and many times those
friends helped steer me in the proper direction
after a shooting or a murder when I worked tact
out there. All I'm saying is, if this class is mandatory, approach it with an open mind. You
just might learn something. True, respect is a
two way street, but it takes an honest person
to admit that we've failed on that end as well.
To the female walker. Get a S&W 624 (5 shot revolver) or maybe a Kahr PM9. The Smith is stainless steel and you don't have to treat it with tender loving care.
Does this mean that like the citizens of Chicago constantly telling us they pay our salary, we can tell the welfare savages we pay for a roof over you head, your luxury car, food and your kids, so we can do what we want, not what they want.
I like my Ruger LCP for off duty. Not a good gun for a real gun fight but good up close and personal. They have runners pouches for them that are advertised in the NRA magazine. Plus it can be auxilary cpd pistol.
Just the beginning. Next, flowers in the holster and Nerf night sticks. We are going to be like the police in Judge Dredd. Do they expect everyone who takes this class to leave their testicles in a jar on the way out? Less than a week and shit is back to normal.
Anonymous said...
Post NATO honeymoon is over and it is now back to reality .
5/25/2012 01:06:00 PM
Only difference is we get fucked after the honeymoon, not during and we won't enjoy it.
How many westies and southies are gonna attend so they get schooled on respecting the police
Didn't the Trib report two separate incidents yesterday where perps shot at officers? One of 'em apparently had an AK.
Will perps also be getting these mandatory lectures about mutual respect?
5/25/2012 10:17:00 AM
"Perps"? Go kiss McCarthy's ass you troll.
Why are all the 'experiments' in 007 and 011?
Only had to read a few of the comments to see that you guys already think the same thing that I do. The only lack of legitimacy and mutual respect is to be found in the way that the city treats the police department. From an understaffed force, failing to contribute to the pension, blatant disregard for the contract, to any other number of ways they try to handcuff the most violent city in America's police department from doing their job. The mere suggestion that we need to "respect" people more is BS. It's not the normal hardworking, taxpaying citizens who feel they are disrespected by the police either. It is the welfare funded, criminal sociopaths who live in the hood who don't like the way the PO lice "harass" them. F them, and F the misguided Utopian dreamer liberals who listen to them.
FROM A PRIOR THREAD...
The whole country is talking about CPD. Such a good feeling. Not one fucking word from FOP. Not a congratulations from FOP on their website. Moron Shields gives an interview saying how CPD has cleaned up their image since 68. Hey FOP you work for us. We don't need you to bring up 68 considering you never even been in a riot. You sounded like an idiot. Get your act together and start working on our contract. We did our job now you do yours. Funny how Shields loved the camera when he was making a name for himself and now he is camera shy and doesn't use the opportunity that we blue shirts handed him built on blood, swat and tears. Fellow brothers and sisters we arein trouble with this circus act of an FOP president. The best thing that Dougherty could find to talk about was health care?. I am telling you the same way we held the line with the scum we need to band together against this union. I have a feeling that McCarthy is the least of our problems. Shields and 9.5 are in bed with each other. The President and even liberal members of the media congratulated us. What did Shields and the clowns we elected have to say? What does our FOP website that we pay for have to say? Why is it SCC posts all the congratulations from all over the country and the FOP website has no comment section for us to vent or inquire? Furthermore, why didnt FOP address the expired waters or lack of supplies? Why wasnt FOP out there for us with water or snacks? Or why didnt they open the lodge so we could stop by and pick up water or some snacks or a cup of coffee? Yiu mean to tell me all the money they make and our dues they couldnt prepare some logistics for us? There were plenty of businesses that would have supprted their efforts? Throw that joke of a credit union in there. Papa Johns took care of us SCC you do such a great job!! Just maybe you should be our union. Shields and company shame on you. FOP as of Friday this week I promise you no more am I paying union dues. Brothers and sisters in blue send a message to FOP. Stop the union dues. We showed our worth.
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You're about as fucking stupid as they come.
Just for starters...
You DO realize that you are not entitled to paid legal representation once you're removed (by self or other method) from the union. So when you step on your dick while performing your duties "in good faith", it's all on you, brother. Enjoy blowing thru your savings and losing your home when some savage hits the "Ghetto Lottery" because he says you violated his civil rights. Have fun explaining to the kids that "we're gonna be living with aunt Karen for a little while" or "you'll get used to your new school in no time, Sweetheart".
FOPs got bigger fish to fry than what you declare important. If those petty, inconsequential issues mean that much to you, run for FOP office next time around.
Oh that's right! You won't be able to since you'll no longer be a union member.
Run your mouth less and open your eyes and ears more, jackass. And then go rinse some of that gel outta your hair.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
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Revolvers don't come in two shots, first of all.
You have to auxiliary qualify with the revolver if you get one.
Better off with a smaller version of your duty weapon (smaller Smith, smaller Beretta, mini-XD, etc.) Then you don't have to requalify with it if it's the same maker and caliber.
5/25/2012 03:26:00 PM
I think she meant "derringer" not "revolver"---I agree with 3:26:00 pm---get smaller version of what you are used to--or one of those newly approved .380s---but either way you will have to qualify annually
7 or 11 snake eyes watching you!
Double up or quit, double stake or split, it's the
ACE OF SPADES, THE ACE OF SPADES!!!!
Two shot revolver??????????
Nuts!!!!
Legitimacy and Respect 101:
Day 1: 15 minute class
How to Aim and Fire your Police Issued Weapon to put down criminals with a maximum of 2 rounds per hood rat.
Our commander has stated several times in roll call that we have 'friends' in 007, including reverends, that are more than willing to help us. However, he states that because we may treat them a certain way they don't come forward and tell us who killed so and so.
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Hohohoho Leo is playing the game as usual. Kissing Mac's ass eh? Leo and Ellen should lead by example and throw a huge barbecue at their home and only invite residents of the 007 district. Lets see how many murders he can solve then.
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
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Revolvers don't come in two shots, first of all.
You have to auxiliary qualify with the revolver if you get one.
Better off with a smaller version of your duty weapon (smaller Smith, smaller Beretta, mini-XD, etc.) Then you don't have to requalify with it if it's the same maker and caliber.
Buy one of those new 380s. Don't bother qualifying. If you use it and save your life worst that can happen is a couple days suspension. Well worth not jumping through the qualification hoop every year lol
http://41stwardcitizens.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-no-money-for-taft-come-on-alderman.html
Why NO money for TAFT? Come ON, Alderman O'Connor!!
This is an article from yesterday's Northwest Side Press. Taft High School, A neighborhood school, fails to receive capital improvement funds ONCE AGAIN, while Lane Tech, a selective enrollment school, receives $44 Million dollars.
Taft NEEDS more than 20 million dollars for very overdue capital improvements, but again is ignored and COMPLETELY left out of the CPS capital improvement plan budget for the next school year!
Where is the alderman? Why isn't she screaming for money for the ONLY high school in the ward?
Call the Aldermans office at
773 594 8341
How much of OUR money did the ghetto schools get???
Yaaaay the beaches are open
*POP**POP**POP* pew-pew-pew-pew *POP-POP* pew-pew-pew *POP*POP*POP*
One dead and six more wounded last night and old snake-eyes doesn't have a clue..or just doesn't care.
When we gonna move the mobile OEMC truck over to 79th and Halsted so you can witness the muzzle flashes first hand instead of waiting for the 9-1-1 "loud reports" calls to come in?
MC Hammer -- Too Legit To Quit
the video.....was that taken at one of the 35th Street meetings?
5/25/2012 02:48:00 PM
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heh, how about it? Shhhh don't tell anyone.
Agreed the 7-11 respect training is a waste of time and money.
But one department training needed is a LGBT awareness training for patrol, CID, supervisors and command. We're still provincial rubes when it comes to responding to and investigating gay-related calls.
And the dets have forgotten how to investigate gay homicides - and thats when the "fruit inspectors" at the old Area 6 homicide were handling the cases that no one else wanted. But they were good!
Anonymous said...
how about the cities refusal to pay time and one half for all people in dog64 who were cancelled days off sunday and monday--- friday is day number 6 and the collective bargaining agreement clearly states that anyone working 6 or seven days in a row will receive compensation at time and one half for those days worked--- the city will not pay it so a class action grievance was filled by the union.....
5/25/2012 02:20:00 AM
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Yeah how about the city refusing to pay for O/T?
AND..
How about the city refusing to pay the bill for the parking meter contract?
How about the city refusing the demand to keep our mental health clinics open?
How about the city refusing the peoples will and installing school zone speed cameras anyway?
How about the State upping the Individual State Income Tax against the will of the taxpayers?
How about the State cutting Medicare, cutting pensions, cutting jobs, handing out tax breaks to billion dollar corporations that don't need them.
How many more years are the corporations going to hold us all hostage demanding tax breaks and if they don't get them they will behead more Illinois jobs?
NOTHING has been done to stop that excuse this year and the next and the next and the next. The old bullshit propaganda that they're the job creators and if we don't give them more tax breaks they'll leave never dies.
You know what we need? We need a "bold plan"! lol
We need some politicians that will stand up to this corporate bullshit instead of playing the battered housewife Stockholm syndrome sufferers.
Half of these so-called corporations are not successful at all. They're not around because of hard work and innovation. They're still here because they are living on corporate welfare bailouts. Making the rounds. One year it's the Federal bailouts and the next it's the State, Local bailouts like Chicago's TIF programs.
We need a government with integrity that when they sign a law it means something. When they sign a contract it means something. We need accountability.
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
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Revolvers don't come in two shots, first of all.
You have to auxiliary qualify with the revolver if you get one.
Better off with a smaller version of your duty weapon (smaller Smith, smaller Beretta, mini-XD, etc.) Then you don't have to requalify with it if it's the same maker and caliber.
5/25/2012 03:26:00 PM
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As mentioned buy a Glock 26 or Smith &Wesson M&p 9C. Small and hold 12 rounds. Smith and Wesson just released a smaller version of the 9c as well. It'd,called the M&P 9 Shield. Perfect for the ladies and guys a like. It's awesome but not approved quite yet. However Its in the family so it will be........
To the response..........they changed the program toubnow have to qualify with you baby version and full size version every year.....at least 3 yrs ago it changed. Keep up with the rules...
Ad to a holster if u wear athletic clothes n jog look into a belly band......otherwise as horny as it sounds a tactical fanny pack will keep it at your fingertips.
Speaking of respect, what ever happened to the proposed City Council Commendation for the personnel who handled the gay homicide of Randall Hildebrand in 023?
The dets did a great job and soon arrested PoS David Sidener - since convicted and sentenced.
The city's LGBT Advisory Council approved a commendation for the detectives - strongly supported by then-Human Relations Commissioner Dana Stark.
It was kicked up to a City Council Commendation (ranking higher than a Resolution) and was supported by the Mayor's Office (Daley).
But the City Council Commendation was killed by Ald. Tom Tunney who told IGA that he didn't want Daley associated with something as tawdry as a gay murder.
what's so legitimate about a kid who wears his pants down to mid-ass with half his underwear showing. You want me to respect that type of idiocy?
next.
what the fuck next.
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
Ruger LCP.380,cheap,tiny, weighs next to nothing and holds 7 with one in the chamber. Good up close and personal gun, plus Department approved.
Brilliant idea. Kiss the thugs ass a little more. That'll keep their feelings from being hurt by the big bad po-po. Who comes up with this shit anyway? The only thing that will start to solve the thug problem is parents who care about their offspring and who aren't afraid to smack the little shits when they misbehave. That, and not worshiping the gangsta lifestyle would go a long way.
Great Idea!
Start with the exempts and work your way down the chain of command so management will STOP TREATING P.O.'s LIKE SHIT!!!
To the 2-shot revolver person, take a basic firearms course. you need one.
Let's be honest here, a lot of coppers act like real dickheads to citizens for no reason. Not just the shitheads either. Don't deny it. Some guys literally reek of arrogance, others seem to have a genuine hatred of citizens. You can't change a person's personality. There are some great people on this Department and a handful of complete assheads.
This kind of training is not going to work. It's "Verbal Judo" all over again, but geared more towards just being somewhat friendly to everyday citizens. Literally. McSupe wants you to wave to people sitting on their porch. Smile and greet people on a regular basis. NOT THE THUGS, just regular folk ( or people ) in the neighborhood. He believes this will build trust and has cited several examples how just treating people halfway decently has paid off in them pointing which way the bad guy ran, or where he is hiding. The buzz word is "discourtesy", he wants to change that perception.
It's a noble intention...good luck with that. "Chicago ain't ready for no reform".
Speaking of respect, the 80 officers detailed to the bike unit were told a few days ago their time downtown is extended one week. They would go to their lakefront BID districts June 2 . they were also given their new day off groups , being to,d they will switch to that 6b.
Today, the bike unit was told the new day off group starts ths sunday ! WOW 2 whole days notice! THANKSl
Let me just rearrange my schedule cause the powers that be are worried that that savages will take over North Ave beach!
Time off? Where is it?
Thanks for screwing us.
Gee what do you know? OT has doubled at the 911 center?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/11419061-418/ot-pay-spikes-at-911-center.html
Just found a bunch of fraudulent charges on my credit union debit card. Everyone. Be careful. Heard lots of cpd had same problem.
Anonymous said...
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
5/25/2012 11:54:00 AM
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I wish that I could conceal carry when going to the woods. Too many creeps out there now and I don't feel safe anymore, being a female myself. The two legged animals are far scarier than the four legged ones.
as part of the new legitimacy and mutual respect program, 35th Street will be rolling out a new element....
"Hugs....for Thugs!"
Yes, officers on patrol will now be told that, at least once per day, they must stop, approach a thug on the street, and give them a hug....this will enhance mutual respect and admiration...
Buy one of those new 380s. Don't bother qualifying. If you use it and save your life worst that can happen is a couple days suspension. Well worth not jumping through the qualification hoop every year lol
5/25/2012 07:56:00 PM
Yeah, don't bother learning how to properly operate and regularly practice with a tool that you are counting on to save your life. Just spray and pray, the common way. Those .380's pack a serious kick to your shooting hand, being so small and light. Might want to be prepared if you have to use it.
To the female PO looking for a small weapon: I bought a Ruger LCP .380. with the De Santis Nemesis pocket holder. Very nice - $299.99
(Freddie Bear Sports-Tinley Park-great people)
My total for everything was $357.45
Good luck
5/25/2012 07:56:00 PM
You are wrong. You do have to qualify if it is same make and caliber. Order changed a few years ago, because of all the people that perform the great maintenance on their weapons. FTU found that people there were firearms that wouldn't fire, firearms that had the actions seized, revolvers with rounds stuck inside them. You have to qualify with every weapon you have.
Speaking of respect, the 80 officers detailed to the bike unit were told a few days ago their time downtown is extended one week. They would go to their lakefront BID districts June 2 . they were also given their new day off groups , being to,d they will switch to that 6b.
Today, the bike unit was told the new day off group starts ths sunday ! WOW 2 whole days notice! THANKSl
Let me just rearrange my schedule cause the powers that be are worried that that savages will take over North Ave beach!
Time off? Where is it?
Thanks for screwing us.
5/25/2012 10:03:00 PM
And that's how the City shows its gratitude for everything you did last week.
OT: I'm a female PO and walk in the forest preserves a lot. What is a good 2-shot revolver I could buy and conceal? Any ideas for a gun/holster for that purpose would be appreciated.
The creeps seems to be out in full force all of a sudden.
Thanks. No insults please, just constructive advice. Thanks. A department-approved weapon would be better, but I really am not that picky--rather would be alive than dead, and deal with whatever later.
Thanks.
5/25/2012 11:54:00 AM
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I wish that I could conceal carry when going to the woods. Too many creeps out there now and I don't feel safe anymore, being a female myself. The two legged animals are far scarier than the four legged ones.
5/26/2012 01:14:00 AM
Retired female PO says. Stay out of the frigging forest preserves! Unless you are with several friends, why are you putting yourself in this situation? You are a PO so you live in the city. Go to a park or somewhere else to hike and run. Get a 5 shot snub, a shoulder holster, an ankle holster and a fanny pack. Try to refrain from carrying a gun in a purse as much as possible. Don't think having a weapon is going to keep you safe. You can easily be disarmed, especially when there a multiple offenders.
To the female who wants to conceal and carry. Get some firearms training and do what you need to do. Don't put yourself in harm's way!
Thanks to all with advice about an off-duty weapon while walking in forest preserves. I also want something I can keep in my pocket while I pull into my garage and could be trapped in there before getting service door open.
I talked to several reps of gun companies at an FOP event who didn't recommend a semi-auto because it could jam in your pocket, etc, if you wanted to shoot without pulling it out.
Sorry for sounding like an idiot about a 2-shot revolver--I just want something small and light and reliable. The waist holder sounds like a good idea. Anybody have a good recommendation?
SCC Fan said...
Let's be honest here, a lot of coppers act like real dickheads to citizens for no reason. Not just the shitheads either. Don't deny it. Some guys literally reek of arrogance, others seem to have a genuine hatred of citizens. You can't change a person's personality. There are some great people on this Department and a handful of complete assheads.
This kind of training is not going to work. It's "Verbal Judo" all over again, but geared more towards just being somewhat friendly to everyday citizens. Literally. McSupe wants you to wave to people sitting on their porch. Smile and greet people on a regular basis. NOT THE THUGS, just regular folk ( or people ) in the neighborhood. He believes this will build trust and has cited several examples how just treating people halfway decently has paid off in them pointing which way the bad guy ran, or where he is hiding. The buzz word is "discourtesy", he wants to change that perception.
It's a noble intention...good luck with that. "Chicago ain't ready for no reform".
5/25/2012 09:56:00 PM
Hang in there. This program will work with the quality training at the academy. They have a expert who studied in Harvard that will teach respect to the fine officers in 007 and 011. Have a open mind when you come to the academy. We welcome you.
"A 6-year-old girl and two others were shot in two attacks blocks apart in the Marquette Park neighborhood Saturday." 'Mutual Respect' programs will put an end to that in no time at all.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
I like where the department is going with this.
Word association and hocus pocus type shit keeps the savages entertained and preoccupied.
7 & 11 are winners on the come out and 7-11 is a mighty fine place to spend your dice game winnings.
"Nachos wiff meat an' excra pump cheeze for all my bitches!!"
A 99 cents bag of Doritos is now $3.99. 'Hood economics.
5/25/2012 02:50:00 AM
This kind of training is not going to work. It's "Verbal Judo" all over again, but geared more towards just being somewhat friendly to everyday citizens. Literally. McSupe wants you to wave to people sitting on their porch. Smile and greet people on a regular basis. NOT THE THUGS, just regular folk ( or people ) in the neighborhood. He believes this will build trust and has cited several examples how just treating people halfway decently has paid off in them pointing which way the bad guy ran, or where he is hiding. The buzz word is "discourtesy", he wants to change that perception.
It's a noble intention...good luck with that. "Chicago ain't ready for no reform".
5/25/2012 09:56:00 PM
Why is this a novel idea? We already wave and chat with citizens on our beat.
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