Abbate Verdict
- Five years after a video of Karolina Obrycka being beaten by off-duty cop Anthony Abbate went viral, a federal jury ruled it’s time for the city and Abbate to pay up.
Jurors Tuesday night awarded the bartender $850,000 in her case against the City of Chicago and the disgraced former cop over the 2007 bar beating caught on security camera.
The verdict against the city and Abbate came at the end of a three week trial in which attorneys for Obrycka alleged the Chicago Police Department’s had a code of silence and a culture of failing to properly investigate and discipline officers who used excessive force.
When asked outside the courtoom where the $850,000 will come from, Abbate responded with a joke.
“I think I got a Visa card in my wallet,” Abbate quipped. In practice the City will have to pay the entire amount, Obrycka’s attorneys expect.
Still an asshole, all the way until the end, eh Tony?
Of course, this means the lawyer can bill Chicago for their time, which we imagine will run into the millions of dollars. And then there's this problem:
- In order to prevail, Obrycka’s legal team had to prove not just that the code of silence existed, but that it was a cause of Abbate’s attack.
Get ready for a shitload of "training" and speeches, maybe even some sort of outside "oversight" since it has now been proven in a Court of Law that a "code of silence" exists and is perpetrated by the Department.
And then there's the unfinished business of the "fall girl:"
- He added that the actions of Deb Kirby, who ran the police departments internal affairs division at the time of the beating, were “reprehensible.”
“If it was up to me, I’d fire her today,” he said.
Hope that resume is up to date Deb.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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"Still an asshole, all the way until the end, eh Tony?"
TV showed him going through the turnstiles and disappearing into the subway, all by himself...
Ahhh, Tony...the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks, pal. It's gonna cost me and the rest of the taxpayers close to $3 mil for your drunken nonsense. Can't wait for the new round of training and orders that are ahead too. Is he liable for any of that $850,000?
Is this stroke paying any punitive damages?
Just remember. Kirby has been sponsored by and continuously promoted through many superintendents. Rice, Rodriguez, Hillard, Cline, Weiss, McCarthy. And every single one of these fkhead superiors bragged about how smart and viable Kirby is. They should all be held financially accountable for her repeated offenses and messes.
She was in the very first promotion class of every rank she made - detectve, sergeant, lieutenant. Is it because she is just so damn brilliant?
26 years later it takes an observant outsider to prove her stupidity and wrecklessness and say to the world that she should be fired immediately. The dirty little secret that 95 percent of current and retired cops knew.
(1986 - current supts, am I missing someone??)
But Debs a lawyer!
Oh and she was head of the NATO thing too.
And she doesn't know how many management picks the city has for SGT promotions.
She is a keeper.
Does Rahm know those white shirts didn't prep for this lawsuit???
Lots of college and NO common sense
It's all "much to do about nothing" really. The taxpayers are good for it. We stuck it to them before and hung a "shared sacrifice" banner on it and they took that without much resistance. So we think we can pull it off again.
“If it was up to me, I’d fire her today,” he said.
Hope that resume is up to date Deb.
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To hell with her resume. I wish it was up to him. And, her name is Debra. Why does everyone refer to her as Deb? It seems to indicate that she has a warm, friendly, approachable side. On the contrary, she is a stone-cold, dark-hearted woman. She should be called Curby, the vicious mongrel, not Deb.
I don't like DirtyDebay but it goes much higher!
Abate is a symptom of much bigger problem.
America is very very good to me
Thank you very very much America
My god bless America and Me!
He took an oath to uphold the law. And found out he was not above the law. This lesson still will be lost on a lot of cops.
Hey they gave cease fire an even million. I bet she spends her money wiser.
Haha kirby its been a long time coming for you to get what you have long deserved.karma is wonderful.I pray that you lose your job and pension after you are charged with official misconduct and convicted.its a job related felony and the law says "NO PENSION".fuck you sweetie.
Future headline:debra kirby a former high ranking boss of the cpd was found guilty in court today of official misconduct.with that finding miss kirby is ineligible for a pension and faces an immediate job loss......
Kirby getting fired with no pension.....priceless.
The mayor,the supt and fop remained silent on kirby.their all in bed together.well now it don't matter hahaha....ekl and his henchmen are not quiet thank God and will get her charged and convicted.
Kirby perhaps the dumbest lawyer in Illinois next to jesse Jr.
Abbate a low life drunkard.
Kirby for mayor.
Debbie kirby Walmart parking lot security guard.
Hey deb I can't wait to attend your trial.I will be the guy smiling and laughing my ass off.
oh please. This was not a "court of law". It was a civil trial where a slick attorney was able to lie enough and create such a bullsh*t smoke screen to convince a civilian jury to give this woman money... no different than any other civil trial against officers. They hotshot lawyer does anything and everything he can to get an award... they dont even care what they award is, just as long as they get a win so they can send the city the bill. 9 times out of 10 the bill is bigger than the award anyways. They are a jury.. they are swayed by such things as a CSI tv show and episodes of matlock that they saw once. The only sad thing here is that abbatte should actually be paying this punitivly. At least when we get hit for punitive damages in civil court, 99 percent of the time the city ends up paying it or the award is thrown out as part of the deal. Ive been hit twice in my career. Once as a P.O for 20,000 and once as a detective for 171,000. After two months the 171,000 was paid by the city as part of the deal and in the other the 20,000 was dropped so they could collect the compensatory from the city. Abbatte should have to pay because what he did was HIS fault and nobody elses. Hope everyone learned, if you end up dealing with a jagoff drunken copper too bad... if they cant help themselves then why should you try to help them. Enough is enough.. if your out at a bar and you fuck up because your drunk then too bad.. no more boys being boys. if your gonna go out act like a regular person. Just because we are the police doesnt mean we can act like idiots at the bar.
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
I just hope that Ladner is shown to the door at the same time Kirby is. The Dept. might as well drown two demons at once.
It's just so PRECIOUS when convicted felons "quip".
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Abbate got his own TV show.
Why no punitive damages against the asshole Abbatte?
The problem started at the very top!
The following all happened during the time Phil Cline was our Dear Leader.
Weems
Jefferson Tap
Koschman
Abbate
SOS & Finnegan
This is the BS that led to Weis and now McCarthy. Kirby was just one of Cline's instruments of failure but she does have an opinion of herself that is second to none!
Nothing will happen to Kirby. If the city takes any action against her, it will only reinforce the jury's verdict. Only thing possible is that she's pressured to resign, but there's no way anything will happen to her otherwise.
Fuck former superintendent Richard brzeczek. U know what I'm talking about if u saw his cbs interview. He is now a defense attorney so that should tell the kind of guy he is.
No cost to abate. Rose
code of silence was the CAUSE of the attack? how did the jury believe that?
Hey deb I can't wait to attend your trial.I will be the guy smiling and laughing my ass off.
11/14/2012 01:50:00 AM
All this ill will directed toword Deb Kirby. If you didn't deal with her at IAD, I cannot imagine why you would have such hard feelings, and let's remember you brought yourself to IAD. Maybe she turned you down for a date, or you thought she was out of your league. Well, you're right, she is.
Try directing your hate at the one guy that caused all of this: the very caustic and totally worthless Tony Abatte. Take solice in the thought that he will live a short and very unhappy life.
Abbate is just a mean out of control drunk. Every bar has more than a few. As for the code of silence when do you hear one lawyer talking about another lawyer? It goes on all over. Nobody wants to be a snitch.
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
11/14/2012 02:54:00 AM
Whatever youre smoking, is some great shit. The City got their ass handed to them by "slick." They obviously did zero prep when they contradicted themselves multiple times on the stand. You dont think the appellate court is going to notice that? At least you had the balls to post here, Deb...
She sued the city for 10 million dollars. That comes out to 1 dollar for every time the liberal media played the tape.
To 2:54 am (the person with all the predictions about what will happen on appeal):
You do not have any idea what you're talking about. Jury verdicts are rarely disturbed by the 7th circuit. Less than 5% of the time. And Judge St. Eve is an excellent judge, so its unlikely she made any reversible errors at trial. Finally, your spelling is worse than a 3rd grader's spelling. That detracts from your argument too and makes you seem even dumber than you really are, if possible.
Keep wishing for Kirby to disappear it will not happen.Just like incompetent bosses of yesteryear they keep them and promote them. The Sgt on the other hand who testified will get dumped some where down the line just wait.This dept will stay stuck with the merit and clout bosses as long as the Rev's and altercreature's keep running the department. So strap boy's and girl's and enjoy the ride.
Emanuel's #1 legislative priority this year is to "reform" (meaning cut) pensions.
Last year his #1 legislative priority was a tax cut for the millionaires at the Merc.
More shared sacrifice. Take whats earned from the middle class and give it to the millionaire campaign contributors.
I've seen the movie a number of times and now I can hardly wait to read the book.
850,000/5 years?
she made 170000 a year
not too shabby her atternies at 33%
280,000 or so
she still comes with over 500,000
maybe enough to buy the bar she was beat up in
or least buy a round of drinks
Abbatte should have to pay because what he did was HIS fault and nobody elses.
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The city hired him as a cop. They can't escape responsibility for his subsequent actions.
Does the City ever Win?? No; everybody thinks we are a corrupt bunch of assholes.
Anonymous said...
I just hope that Ladner is shown to the door at the same time Kirby is. The Dept. might as well drown two demons at once.
11/14/2012 03:16:00 AM
Please please couuld that XO mike ryan from 019 go with them. He is creating so much havoc in 019 that I cant understand why the new commander does not see it. We are on the third commander since march and this miserable rotten blue shirt hater is still with us. Nobody can stand looking or working for you mike, do us a favor and retire and waste away on that bar stool. Commander do you think the numbers will go up with this man fucking with us on taking time due or which parking spot we park our cars in or just being human. Here is a Captain of Police looking at where we park. How about cleaning up your office and put olive oil back on the street, Oh I forgot then you dont have anybody to have dinner with. Maybe you can go out with Mike S from 2nd watch we know he is your snitch and why you moved him there.
Next up for one of the POs (JK) not going in to check the video tape inside Jesse's is his own civil lawsuit. HIS lawsuit was filed by Paul Kozlowski and it's over the PO (JK) handing out fake parking tickets. Add whatever happens to this PO (JK) to his 30-day suspension in the Abbate case.
It's priceless watching Eckl preach about the code of silence that he so skillfully brought out. An imperfect investigation and and bad case reporting isn't a code of silence. I'm sure Terry is concerned about the public and how the police department is run. The lights are off now Eckl, slither back under the rock from hence you came from.
Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city...
This is kind of lie, is why Karolina won. She asked for "in excess of $50,000" the jury gave her $850,000.
Your GUESS at $900,000 makes me think you are an FOP attorney, pretty accurate about how a good attorney should be compensated, but an idiot about the details of being a good attorney.
What date did contract talks begin? How's that going for y'all?
"Code of Silence"? What fucking bizzaro alternate universe do these people live in? All they have to do is mention suspension and 2/3 of us will toss almost anyone under the bus. Mention sued and fired and the other 1/3 will also. There is no benefit to anyone for covering for an asshole. When will the public figure this out? Never, because it works well in these lawsuits.
It's all bull shit. This fuckin court system is bullshit. He maybe an asshole but how the fuck is your or anyone's employer responsible for your actions... regardless if itson duty or off duty. What you're telling me is that if I work for Motorola an go out to kill bunch of people ..their families are are going to sue Motorola for having crazy employee?! Are you kidding me! City better appeal this. He's responsible for his own actions! Sue him. This whole country is based on suing everybody. Apple is suing Samsung because their ipad also has round corners. I think city should challenge every case, so asshole lawyers get the fucking message. City is not giving money away anymore.
Guess she won't have to push a tamale cart anymore, I mean, bartend.
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
11/14/2012 02:54:00 AM
I disagree, however, the city will still pay that amount. If not to her, then to their attorneys in fees for appealing it. And believe me, their attorneys will make sure its a drawn out process so they can milk the crooks, I mean, the city for every penny.
The city does NOT have a rock solid motion to dismiss.
The judgement wasnt just about Abate and the drunken beating but also against the code and culture of silence.
Not one copper alive can deny that one. Cops take care of each other - period.
Abbate is the focus here yet you still bitch about Kirby. You folks have a sister-complex. Damn guys you hate. I love the time posts too. Either you are just getting home from Dugan's, Fitzgerald's or Bourbon St. Or "working". What pisses you off worse? The fact she was able to get a J.D. in the same time your waist gained 6 inches? Or regardless what happens she will leave this department and land on her feet, when this is all you have? Jealousy is a bitch folks...
Anonymous said...
Just remember. Kirby has been sponsored by and continuously promoted through many superintendents. Rice, Rodriguez, Hillard, Cline, Weiss, McCarthy. And every single one of these fkhead superiors bragged about how smart and viable Kirby is. They should all be held financially accountable for her repeated offenses and messes.
She was in the very first promotion class of every rank she made - detectve, sergeant, lieutenant. Is it because she is just so damn brilliant?
26 years later it takes an observant outsider to prove her stupidity and wrecklessness and say to the world that she should be fired immediately. The dirty little secret that 95 percent of current and retired cops knew.
(1986 - current supts, am I missing someone??)
11/14/2012 12:22:00 AM
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I was in her detective study group and 1st class, she WAS the most intelligent person in both. She was also a no-nonsense, hard-working detective in Area 2. And let's put something else in prospective. The beating itself was NOT a felony, no matter how bad it looked on the video. No great bodily harm, no weapon, no hospital.
Read the entire Tribune article and can honestly say I could believe every word in it if the word "certain" were placed before "officers" in each reference. This guy should have never been hired, let alone been allowed to stay on the job as long as he did. Still too much nonsense going on.
kirby along with Jody Weiss also put in place Chief Rivera and Klimas (former FBI) and Weiss friend.
Every superintendent has had there own boss in IAD,
SUPT. also needs to get ride of ALL working in the confidential section (iad)like any unit things get boring and so coverups begin;
Is this stroke paying any punitive damages?
11/14/2012 12:20:00 AM
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Does anyone know?
PUNITIVE DAMAGES?
Isn't the bartender an illegal? Can they sue and get civil rights judgments here in the U.S. while illegal? That seems crazy to me.
I am followed around and my every move is watched because I have dented many a fragile bosses ego. However... Those that pull all kinds of crap and those with sticky fingers are ignored?
I really get a good laugh from this blog. The comments are hilarious. Debra Kirby won't get fired. The worst that will happen to her is forced retirement along with a cushy job as a civilian. When will the clowns on this job wake up?????? This shit isn't real. KIRBY HAS CLOUT!!! She has been vouched for multiple times. When you are clouted and connected the rules don't apply and everybody knows that. Like an earlier comment said, Kirby has been promoted by multiple Superintendents. She is part of the Democrat machine. The machine doesn't admit mistakes. The wagons will be circled for Kirby, case closed.
SO END THE LESSON!!!!!!!!
How much you wanna bet kirby gets promoted?
Beating? You call that a beating? The made for TV movie version will have a better fight scene than that.
They sued the city because the city has deep pockets. Cant expect much from Abbate. Kirby? Expect her to resign under pressure. Her credibility is not gone with the public ( gone with cops long time ago).
I amnow retired, but as I recall if you handled a tavern case you had tonotify a supervisor and they should respond? Things changed in that regard? I wonder if a supervisor responded to the tavern that night? I also expect that the judgement will be reduced in appeal.All of the " injuries" of the bartender are emotional, little or nothing physical. The attorneys fees are 2 million in this matter. Thatg too will be reduced. They are greedy bastards.
If you really think that Kirby will be prosecuted and lose her pension you are living in an alternate universe. She might leave the department but there is not enough evidence to warrant a criminal charge let alone convict her. I just dont believe this coverup bullshit. Abatte did not have enough clout to do cause that . Aggravated battery, a felony, has always been tied to great bodily harm which the bartender did not suffer. Barely a bruise. But, the video was damning and public outraged as it looked so bad. Without the video it would have remained a misdemeanor and abatte would have been fired and that would be that.
Did you hear Ekl's little speech after the trial about thow FINALLY the code of silence is exposed and Rahm has a chance for change within the CPD.
Maybe ELK will clean up the Lawyers next with their "Code of perjury" that has been going on for years. Maybe EKL will do another "Hake the Fake" greylord style about things like "CBRs, Counselor bond releases" that let the courts be collection agencies for the lawyers instead of the bond going to satify the fine it goes toward the Lawyer fee. How about the reasons for all of the bullshit continuances like for "Professional Reasons" meaning the piece of shit didn't pay the piece of shit lawyer so the courts can again be collection agencies while the public and justice wait or should I say just waist another day of youe time and come back later for justice. I wonder how many Lawyers purger themselves each day in court and the opposing attorney gives his professional courtesy.
"Big Read" strikes again! And yes there is a double standard, though the "Blue Wall of Silence" is not necessarily the case. Consider that an officer on the NW side some years ago Bitch Slapped a shoplifter, on video and he attempted to retrieve that video. When they fired him, they threatened him with Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice. Abbate clearly attempted to Obstruct Justice by attempting to acquire the video tape, so why did the ASA choose to not charge the Felony. The settlement should be paid by the State's Attorney and Big Red personally. Instead the tax payers will eat the bill, because some ignorant suburbanites decided how Chicago operates. They need to ride the Green Line West, then they'd learn to love the police. Baby"G"
There IS a code of silence. Dont you watch TV or movies? They even named a movie that.
Just a joke. We know if you tell one copper something it'll be all over the city the next day. And "Code of Clout" just doesnt sound right.
"just another copper with no clout who gets stepped on for the least infraction, even railroaded by those IAD Fucks".
You heard it here first! Abbate to go to work as security on the Jerry Springer Show. Little birdie says that Steve Wilkos knows the Abbate Family and has reached out to both them and the current head of security at the show to get Tony a better job than what he's got going at McCormack Place. Seems the Springer/Wilkos camps know "it's all about the ratings", and who better to get the viewership up than this modern day villain. Watch for his appearance sometime after the new year starts once all the legalities and kinks are worked out.
In this case the gold star did this screw up ! We patrolmen are not allowed to think for ourselves !
that snake oil salesman terry ekl strikes again--- the city of chicago has been very very good to him--- abbatte really needs a rachel ray makeover, that hairdo went out of style about 30 years ago....
Kirby sounds like an idiot. They sould also fire the idiots who hired these idiots. Idiots everywhere!!!!
C'mon 2nd city. Your behing the news. Sergio Oliva died at 71yo. Not a bad run for a big time juicer.
Not that I get any thrills from badmouthing the dead but how many Beefs did the white shirted dickheads get this guy out of? Ive personally seen a few.
And then there was the bullet hole put there by his wife, who got sick of taking Lumps from macho-man.
RIP Serg. Tho you werent one of a kind.
Bye Bye Jerry....US Dept of Justice will be running the show soon.
Anonymous said...
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
11/14/2012 02:54:00 AM
The attorneys have already estimated their fees will be in excess of two million.
So, if training or whatever is not the answer, then let me ask you in all sincerity: What do you suggest to keep people like him from getting away with such behavior? How shall people like me, who support the good cops and can't afford the monetary consequences of abuse and corruption, be served and protected from bad apples?
--Law Abiding Citizen
Its interesting the press talks about the "code of silence".
Ask any working PO about it, and they will tell you they would be thrown under the bus in a second. But if you have clout, anything goes! Protection is only for the politically connected. Not the working police.
And yes, every past Mayor and Supt should be held liable. Including the one blabbing about the situation to the press.
Anonymous said...
Kirby getting fired with no pension.....priceless.
11/14/2012 01:18:00 AM
Don't forget Abbate fired with no pension. the thing is, had Abbate been recognized for the drunken thief and thug he is and fired years ago none of this would have happened. He would be a drunken jagoff getting arrested for his drunken shit regularly.
They knew he was no fucking good in the 90's when he got caught stealing burglary proceeds in 019. Nothing was done, he was dumped to another district. They did what the police department always does, just makes the problem people someone else's problem.
Then he could have been found out in 011 and fired, coming to work drunk. But no, he was just allowed to go somewhere else because God know's, we can't fire one of our own. Why, he's a "good guy" deep down inside.
I am so sick of hearing how some piece of shit is a "good guy" so please drop the charges or please don't DUI him or please be quiet.
The bartender's lawyer was right, there is an institutional bias against getting rid of problem cops. I've seen it and had pressure on me for 27 years.
Let drunk cops go unless there is no choice due to them killing someone and then I have heard coppers APOLOGIZE to the drunken cop, "I am sorry, there is nothing I can do, they forced me" as if not doing your job when a cop breaks the law is an admirable trait.
The department has to be turned completely upside down, shaken up, and rebuilt all over again. This will no doubt happen again and we will shake our heads about how this could have happened, again.
It's time for justice dept to go after high ranking members of cpd that continue to cover up wrong doing by a small percentage of cpd officers .
Still, I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the Abbate video.
I'd curl up in the fetal position and let a drunken Abate pummel me for a minute or two if I was able to walk away with 850,000! She suffered no substantial injuries, was up walking and talking right after the attack. How does that result in $850,000??
Kirby geting hurt? Yeah, right. Face it boys and girls, it's just not going to happen. She's a gold plated 19th Ward political hack and being such, she's untouchable. In spite of being the incompetant, non police, fool she has always been.
Just remember. Kirby has been sponsored by and continuously promoted through many superintendents.
Rice, Rodriguez, Hillard, Cline, Weiss, McCarthy. (1986 - current supts, am I missing someone??)
11/14/2012 12:22:00 AM
Just one. LeRoy Martin between Rice and Rodriguez.
Does this mean we can sue the hot shot white collar folks when they get drunk and start fights at the bar? Will Bank of America, Citigroup, and Boeing be responsible for paying damages to victims of their reckless and drunk employees outside of work? Can we go to another country as an illegal immigrant, sue their government, and be awarded a large sum of money without so much as a black eye to show for it? Only in America.
Tony should counter-sue her and the bar for over serving him in order to recoop some of OUR money.
You want proof that there is no "code of silence", wait till they put Kirby's feet to the fire.
Stop hiring political hacks, RTAFUs,affirmative action hires and lawsuits will drop by 90%.
Hire fully qualified people who really want to work and act professional.
The only person ever charged and conivicted of perjury in a civil hearing was Jon Burge! Lets see if they go after Kirby.
After being sued and being in federal court more then once I can tell you that the lawyers for the girl do not bill the city. They take their court costs out of the 850. Then they take their 30 or 40% out of the remaining balance. The scumbag lawyers cannot bill the city. My guess is miss bartender will see about 450k from how I was told it works. The city will pay court costs and fee because they lost but they do not pay for her lawyers.
Civilian here.
Who was, and continues to be, Debra Kelly's "sponsor?"
The city gave cease fire a cool million without discussion or input from the tax payers. They sold out the tax payers on the 75 year lease of the,golden goose,parking meter contract.
They allowed this case to play out in the courts without offering a settlement or a viable defense of the accusation of a "code of silence" in the police department.
The city knew that the tax payers would foot the bill for this fiasco. Abbate knew the city would foot the bill.
Abbate had already been found guilty in criminal court and did his time and now is an ex-felon, ex-policeman.
The city was and is ready to use the tax payers money to pay the over inflated fees the winning lawyers will submit to the city.
The travesty is not that Karolina Obrycka was abused by a big bad policeman. The big bad policeman never laid a glove on her. The video was viewed by many. So was the Rodney King video. Tony Abbate was tried and convicted by the media's relentless pursuit of sensationalism given to them on a silver platter by the slick lawyers that prevailed in federal court.
There was no code of silence. The buzz word of code of silence was cleverly promoted by the slick lawyers who saw a big paycheck in their future. Federal court promotes more frivolous lawsuits then state court or any other court in the land because the winning lawyers get to bill the deep pocket losers 100% of their costs of going to trial. A bonanza for the winning lawyers that is often bigger then what ever is awarded to their client.
Code of silence? More like code of incompetence. Meritorious clout babies showing their incompetence on a public stage. The tax payers will continue to pay for the clout babies being incompetent. The incompetent clout babies will continue to be promoted, that's the travesty.
She is going to Poland and will buy a Pony.
Nothing will happen to Kirby Just because the attorney bringing the suit says she should be fired, it has no bearing on the city or the CPD Shes safe, at best in a year or so she will just retire
Abbate was and still is a piece of shit. How he avoided any financial burden amazes me. As for the verdict, I was torn during the trial which way I wanted it to go. I didn't think the city should be responsible for what an off-duty asshole did. If she wanted to sue Abbate alone, that wouldn't have bothered me at all. But I felt the city wasn't responsible.
On the other hand, the upper echelon of this department is made up of hacks and merit promotions who are clueless and ALWAYS take care of themselves. I wouldn't have doubted a cover-up for a minute. Abbate was clout heavy and I'm sure he made his phone calls. I've dealt with a thousand battery jobs that were worse than what Abbate did and if I called for a felony I would have been the laughingstock of this department. Yet the higher ups pretend they got personally involved in this case and called felony review. I highly doubt that also. It doesn' bother me on that front that the city was held liable.
Debra Kirby was shown to the public what an incompetant bitch she really is. She was shown she has no management skills and even did a bad job of lying to the court. Unfortunately, nothing negative will happen to her. Since the upper echelon is made of those hacks I mentioned earlier, she will either be promoted again, kept at the same position, or she will retire with full pension benefits with a plum outside job waiting for her. Mark my words!
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
Rumor has it Abatte owns property amongst other valuable things. They should put a lien on what he owns before he finds a way to shield it. Screw Abatte for screwing us.
Thanks a lot ya Fat Bastard! Fat,Drunk and Stupid.
The only code of silence...if you want to call it that...is perpitrated by the exempts.
Media and all the other non police that read this blog know now and very clear the actions of tony abbate before during and after are a disgrace and sickening. He is a virus and we are glad he no longer is a police officer.
He doesn't represent the core and majority of the fine men and women of our police department.
Rot in hell mr abbate , you are a piece of garbage
I am a 20 yr vet and growing tired of constantly picking up the pieces after people like him smear he rest of us.
Stay safe and stay smart all
OT. To the 1st dist female foot P.O walking around Washington and state carrying the Adidas drawstring backpack, you look like a fucking idiot.
Code of silence my ass. Tel-a-phone, tel-a-gram, tel-a-copper.
This is federal court, she gets ALL of the money and her attorney fees will be paid for by city or Abbate. There is no reimbursing the attorney from her award. We will be on the hook for the bill as taxpayers if so determined or Abbate will pay.
Anonymous said...
Kirby perhaps the dumbest lawyer in Illinois next to jesse Jr.
11/14/2012 01:30:00 AM
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Don't forget rich daley. he couldn't pass the Bar exam.
A "ringer" took the exam for him. ?
I was in her detective study group and 1st class, she WAS the most intelligent person in both. She was also a no-nonsense, hard-working detective in Area 2. And let's put something else in prospective. The beating itself was NOT a felony, no matter how bad it looked on the video. No great bodily harm, no weapon, no hospital.
11/14/2012 07:31:00 AM
Oh, please!
Hey Debra, answered in the same order as your statements: NOT, NOT and no common sense to realize that the citizenry will want blood if, and when, the tape is released.
Needless to say, the tape subsequently went around the world, over and over and over again.
How does a merit clout baby differ from someone who has never made a felony arrest or has no interest in police work but happens to score well on a detectives test. Just asking?
The Executive Summary:
1. Abatte was the working police.
2. Abatte was setup.
3. We do not know what really happened because we were not there.
4. They played the race card.
5. It is the victim's fault.
6. They do not want us to do our job--those liberals!
7. Big changes are coming this Friday.
This will be something else Rahm will use against us in contract negotiations.
Rumor has it Abatte owns property amongst other valuable things. They should put a lien on what he owns before he finds a way to shield it. Screw Abatte for screwing us.
11/14/2012 01:06:00 PM
If he didn't do that the day after he found out what he did, he deserves to have it all taken away on general principle!
The City farmed out this case to a private Attorney who performed so poorly that they did not even prep the people they were calling to testify. The City paid $3,000,000 to defend this case. THAT is an outrage. I maintain, this is aggravated buffoonery on every level, but NOT a cover up. A complete disgrace, but NOT a cover up.
The fallout should be interesting...
So here it is in a nutshell.
Off duty veteran P.O. gets upset cuz his dog dies.
Goes out and gets blasted and pummels a small blonde bartender.
He thinks no harm no foul.
Yet it is recorded and televised, you tubed to millions everywhere.
Arrested, charged, fired, convicted.
Civil suit city found liable.
Fat ass never serves time, lands another job at McCormick place. Shows no remorse through whole fiasco. And a stupid sense of humor at the end.
My question is this.
How can anyone blame anybody but Abbate?
@ 11:43 AM
YOU'RE wrong. The city pays for lawyers fees when the plaintiff is awarded ANY monetary compensation- even as little as $1. There is a separate hearing by a judge to award plaintiff attorneys fees. If you've been in a federal civil trial you should know this.
Obviously your intelligence did not compare. The "aggravated" charge came as a result that this incident occurred in a public place.
Are you a really a detective?
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I was in her detective study group and 1st class, she WAS the most intelligent person in both. She was also a no-nonsense, hard-working detective in Area 2...
OT. I'm sick of hearing everyone crying about not be being able to make the bid for 2nd watch in the new 012th district.
Anonymous said...
Future headline:debra kirby a former high ranking boss of the cpd was found guilty in court today of official misconduct.with that finding miss kirby is ineligible for a pension and faces an immediate job loss......
11/14/2012 01:17:00 AM
I hate to say it, but you people who think ANYTHING will happen to Kirby are delusional.
She can name a lot of big skeletons who prefer to stay in the closet.
She'll land another cushy city job, following in the footsteps of the likes of Byrne, Huberman, Masters, and others.
Just watch.
Anonymous said...
Guess she won't have to push a tamale cart anymore, I mean, bartend.
11/14/2012 07:24:00 AM
I think you meant pierogi cart.
KIRBY is the symbol of a joke of a Command Staff Where Clout and MY WAY Rules No Leadership or People Skills
Tony, you are NOT the father (thank God!!) said...
You heard it here first! Abbate to go to work as security on the Jerry Springer Show. Little birdie says that Steve Wilkos knows the Abbate Family and has reached out to both them and the current head of security at the show to get Tony a better job than what he's got going at McCormack Place. Seems the Springer/Wilkos camps know "it's all about the ratings", and who better to get the viewership up than this modern day villain. Watch for his appearance sometime after the new year starts once all the legalities and kinks are worked out.
11/14/2012 09:24:00 AM
That stinker of a show is still on the air???
Have Kirby pay the punitve damages beside the BlL Eye to the Dept
She is going to Poland and will buy a Pony.
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I like ponies. I had a pony!
Who knew an immigrant had a pony?
She is a keeper.
Does Rahm know those white shirts didn't prep for this lawsuit???
Lots of college and NO common sense
Well She was just tryong to protect a cop youd want that too if you were the guy in trouble Shes a leagder and I know your jelous or jello
Thanks a lot ya Fat Bastard! Fat,Drunk and Stupid.
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Dean wormer:: "fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
For Abbate it is a way of life.
Anonymous said...
The city gave cease fire a cool million without discussion or input from the tax payers. They sold out the tax payers on the 75 year lease of the,golden goose,parking meter contract.
They allowed this case to play out in the courts without offering a settlement or a viable defense of the accusation of a "code of silence" in the police department.
The city knew that the tax payers would foot the bill for this fiasco. Abbate knew the city would foot the bill.
Abbate had already been found guilty in criminal court and did his time and now is an ex-felon, ex-policeman.
The city was and is ready to use the tax payers money to pay the over inflated fees the winning lawyers will submit to the city.
The travesty is not that Karolina Obrycka was abused by a big bad policeman. The big bad policeman never laid a glove on her. The video was viewed by many. So was the Rodney King video. Tony Abbate was tried and convicted by the media's relentless pursuit of sensationalism given to them on a silver platter by the slick lawyers that prevailed in federal court.
There was no code of silence. The buzz word of code of silence was cleverly promoted by the slick lawyers who saw a big paycheck in their future. Federal court promotes more frivolous lawsuits then state court or any other court in the land because the winning lawyers get to bill the deep pocket losers 100% of their costs of going to trial. A bonanza for the winning lawyers that is often bigger then what ever is awarded to their client.
Code of silence? More like code of incompetence. Meritorious clout babies showing their incompetence on a public stage. The tax payers will continue to pay for the clout babies being incompetent. The incompetent clout babies will continue to be promoted, that's the travesty.
11/14/2012 12:07:00 PM
Obviously your not the police. If you are, that's even MORE scary ....
Anonymous said...
C'mon 2nd city. Your behing the news. Sergio Oliva died at 71yo. Not a bad run for a big time juicer.
Not that I get any thrills from badmouthing the dead but how many Beefs did the white shirted dickheads get this guy out of? Ive personally seen a few.
And then there was the bullet hole put there by his wife, who got sick of taking Lumps from macho-man.
RIP Serg. Tho you werent one of a kind.
11/14/2012 09:36:00 AM
Sergio Oliva had more class in his little toe than you have in your entire, drunken body. I worked with him for years and he was always the first one there when you needed help. The brightest crayon in the box? No; not really but a fine man and a good cop.
You're a real asshole. I hope the rest of YOUR life goes well ...
Yet nobody can name his "Clout". I find that very hard to believe.
. Just because we are the police doesnt mean we can act like idiots at the bar.
11/14/2012 02:06:00 AM
Thats not what I was taught in the academy,sir.
Anonymous said...
C'mon 2nd city. Your behing the news. Sergio Oliva died at 71yo. Not a bad run for a big time juicer.
Not that I get any thrills from badmouthing the dead but how many Beefs did the white shirted dickheads get this guy out of? Ive personally seen a few.
And then there was the bullet hole put there by his wife, who got sick of taking Lumps from macho-man.
RIP Serg. Tho you werent one of a kind.
11/14/2012 09:36:00 AM
Wow.The guy's not even in his grave and you're shitting all over him.Classy. Let it go.FWIW I met Sergio and thought he was an OK guy.
RIP Big guy.
Anonymous said...
Abbate is the focus here yet you still bitch about Kirby. You folks have a sister-complex. Damn guys you hate. I love the time posts too. Either you are just getting home from Dugan's, Fitzgerald's or Bourbon St. Or "working". What pisses you off worse? The fact she was able to get a J.D. in the same time your waist gained 6 inches? Or regardless what happens she will leave this department and land on her feet, when this is all you have? Jealousy is a bitch folks...
11/14/2012 07:31:00 AM
signed, her boyfriend
Fire Her Too RAHMMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
set the example that the Clouted have to follow the rules tooo like the lowly POs
So, if training or whatever is not the answer, then let me ask you in all sincerity: What do you suggest to keep people like him from getting away with such behavior? How shall people like me, who support the good cops and can't afford the monetary consequences of abuse and corruption, be served and protected from bad apples?
--Law Abiding Citizen
11/14/2012 10:04:00 AM
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Allow supervisors on the front lines to properly do their jobs. With officers like Abbate, there is too much interference from higher ranking people to not make waves, (ie "You never know who he knows," "You dont want to make us look bad for passing him along the whole time," "You will get sued by him.").
Above are just some examples of what I have heard over the years. There are plenty more. Even if you are the supervisor who does his job and writes up the officer in this type of situation, you would be suprised at how many times the paperwork disappears or the investigation is administratively killed off, as if it never existed. That is why I save paper copies of everything when I am involved in these situations, for when they say it never happened.
Anonymous said...
After being sued and being in federal court more then once I can tell you that the lawyers for the girl do not bill the city. They take their court costs out of the 850. Then they take their 30 or 40% out of the remaining balance. The scumbag lawyers cannot bill the city. My guess is miss bartender will see about 450k from how I was told it works. The city will pay court costs and fee because they lost but they do not pay for her lawyers.
11/14/2012 11:43:00 AM
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You sure about that? THis was a 1983 case, and those include attorneys fees right in the statute. THe reason attorneys fees are right in the stastute is that COngress wanted to encourage peoplel to bring suit against governnent wrongs, at or least not be discouraged from doing so for financial reasons. Pretty sure I heard on the news the atorney's fees the city will be on the hook for go over the $2M mark.
Just thinking out loud. Not sure.
"Code of Silence"... wasn't that Joe Kosala's acting debut?
After being sued and being in federal court more then once I can tell you that the lawyers for the girl do not bill the city. They take their court costs out of the 850. Then they take their 30 or 40% out of the remaining balance. The scumbag lawyers cannot bill the city. My guess is miss bartender will see about 450k from how I was told it works. The city will pay court costs and fee because they lost but they do not pay for her lawyers.
Yes, the city does pay the Lawyers fees. In Federal court when a case goes to trial, regardless of the award the city has to pay the lawyers fees. There has been cases where the complainant wins $20,000.00 but the lawyer bills the city and gets paid 900,000.00. That is why most of the above listed kind of lawsuits are filed in Federal court rather then state court. So, yes she will get 850,000 tax free. Then Ekl will get more then her, somthing like 1.5 million.
Kirby a disgrace
Chicago again a national joke
Anonymous said...
First the city will appeal to the 7th circuit and get the claim against them tossed. Second, she was asking for ten million dollars from the city... She got 850 thousand instead. The lawyer bill will be about 600-900 thousand dollars.. A far cry from ten million. After is all said and done and the city claim is thrown out they will stick the 850 thousand on abatte which his attorneys will file a motion of being unable to pay and she will get next to nothing... Not a victory for the city right now but check back in 6 months... I'm sure that part will get zero press. The seventh circuit of appeals acts much different than the federal judges and juries... They commonly grant the cities motions and I highly doubt this case would be any different.. The city has a rock solid motion to dismiss the judgement
11/14/2012 02:54:00 AM
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So what you're saying is that it's okay for an off duty cop to beat the shit out of somebody. That's pretty cool!
But who makes out? The city lawyers.
We'll just have to skip another payment to your pension plan to pay them that's all...it's all cool.
Look at all the Exempts-- what percentage are "Merit"? Says it all.
Too bad the jerk can't just put it on HIS credit card!
Rather my taxes pay for this jackass' antics
Fox cancelled Chicago Code (of silence) due to lack of interest or maybe political pressure who knows?.
Heck if we wanted to watch the Chicago corruption just open the window and look outside that's all ya gotta do.
Anyways..and so goes the dreams of the cities first women police chief. Oh the irony.
Life imitates art..or is it art imitates like I forget.
OT: FLASH
Jesse Jackson Jr. remains no-show at lame-duck session
Are the photo's up on the milk cartons yet or do we put out the Amber Alerts up first I forget.
Anonymous said...
After being sued and being in federal court more then once I can tell you that the lawyers for the girl do not bill the city. They take their court costs out of the 850. Then they take their 30 or 40% out of the remaining balance. The scumbag lawyers cannot bill the city. My guess is miss bartender will see about 450k from how I was told it works. The city will pay court costs and fee because they lost but they do not pay for her lawyers.
Yes, the city does pay the Lawyers fees. In Federal court when a case goes to trial, regardless of the award the city has to pay the lawyers fees. There has been cases where the complainant wins $20,000.00 but the lawyer bills the city and gets paid 900,000.00. That is why most of the above listed kind of lawsuits are filed in Federal court rather then state court. So, yes she will get 850,000 tax free. Then Ekl will get more then her, somthing like 1.5 million.
11/14/2012 08:40:00 PM
You have a few things wrong there. This case WAS in Federal Court. Rules are different. Winner's lawyers get their fees on top of the judgement. Loser has to pay the other side's legal fees. If City prevails in Federal Court, they can go after the other party to recoup legal costs.
In state court fees come out of the award.
People's Law Office sued on behalf of one of the Wilson Brothers, who murdered two CPD officers. Flint Taylor asked for damages of $1.00 (one dollar) Jury gave him $1.00 (one dollar) and People's Law Office got to bill the City for one million in legal costs.
The families of the slain officers had a court judgement against the Wilson Brothers so any award would have gone to the officer's families. Scum Flint Taylor knew this and asked for only one dollar so he could get paid. And he did get paid.
So yes, she will get her $850 and the lawyers will get their totally separate from her money. I didn't hear if there were any damages assessed to Abbate. Should have been.
The Chicago Laughing Stock continues..
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Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. It should be the motto on the city and state seal.
Former Police Superintendent Richard "DicK" BREEZE-ACK (mispelling intentional)was on WLS this afternoon, being asked about the "Police code of silence" by Sam Adam JR. When asked how the City can change the behavior of CPD officers, so the city can avoid these types of civil judgements..he responded, with some rambling answer that implied that the city should take all the money that is awarded to plaintiffs by judges, as a result of CPD misconduct, and subtract it as a line item in the police departments budget,than take that amount and reduce the salaries of all CPD officers across the board, by THAT amount. "Then they'll change their behavior!"
THis guy is a DICK! This job was good to him..he got a law degree provided by CPD..and a six figure "gold braid" pension for the past 20+ years..and he talks like that about US! Fuck that piece of shit!..typical lawyer scum!!What a sell out!
Isn't the bartender an illegal? Can they sue and get civil rights judgments here in the U.S. while illegal? That seems crazy to me.
11/14/2012 07:51:00 AM
Intresting question.... Isn't her monetary award considered income? I wonder if the IRS and ICE will get involved with this one.
The Mayor is confident that Superintendent McCarthy and his leadership team have not, and would not, approve of, let alone participate in, a code of silence,” spokeswoman Sarah Hamilton said in a statement.
“And to the extent there are members of the department who have a different view, the Mayor is confident that McCarthy and his team will deal with that.”
Meaning - If you dare tell the truth and expose the clout hacks like Kirby for the incompetent, arrogant shysters they are your career is DEAD!
All this ill will directed toword Deb Kirby. If you didn't deal with her at IAD, I cannot imagine why you would have such hard feelings, and let's remember you brought yourself to IAD. Maybe she turned you down for a date, or you thought she was out of your league. Well, you're right, she is
I just threw up!
How about SHE EARNED IT! Every last bit of it, every day of her fuck up filled career.
A date?? Out of whose league??? You my friend are delusional.
Every profession has a code of silence. Ever try to get info from a medical staff after a medical mistake?? Yet again everyone focuses on police. And the clergy?? Probably thee biggest code of silence. Journalism?? Shit the Canadian Association of Journalists give an annual Code of Silence Award recognizing Canada’s most secretive government or publicly funded agency. Everybody is taught at a very early age not to tattle.
Bree zak only supt. NOT to get big pension; remember he would not take a demotion when Jane left and quit with less than 20yrs. Smart? same guy who got caught at seminar with his girlfriend and admitted to it on television. Perhaps nuttier than Abatte.
Intresting question.... Isn't her monetary award considered income? I wonder if the IRS and ICE will get involved with this one.
11/14/2012 10:35:00 PM
This is why I love comments from the peanut gallery. No, dumb ass. Those awards are tax free. And do you really believe that ICE will get involved in this sanctuary city that you were too lazy to vote against? Try getting a clue, would you?
So what you're saying is that it's okay for an off duty cop to beat the shit out of somebody. That's pretty cool!
But who makes out? The city lawyers.
We'll just have to skip another payment to your pension plan to pay them that's all...it's all cool.
11/14/2012 09:30:00 PM
Oh, my God. You are SO stupid. No reading comprehension skills and then an attempt at sarcasm. Were you born retarded or did you have to work at it?
The Executive Summary:
1. Abatte was the working police.
2. Abatte was setup.
3. We do not know what really happened because we were not there.
4. They played the race card.
5. It is the victim's fault.
6. They do not want us to do our job--those liberals!
7. Big changes are coming this Friday.
your an idiot, abbate is a piece of shit..
signed, a chicago cop.
Life imitates art..or is it art imitates like I forget.
11/14/2012 10:02:00 PM
http://eztv.it/shows/547/boss/
So what you're saying is that it's okay for an off duty cop to beat the shit out of somebody. That's pretty cool!
But who makes out? The city lawyers.
We'll just have to skip another payment to your pension plan to pay them that's all...it's all cool.
11/14/2012 09:30:00 PM
1. still plenty of shit left in that little barmaid.
2. so, the plaintiff's lawyer(s) worked for free?
3. your solution to pension shortfall becomes: everybody dies sooner? if so, you lead the way.
"Code of Silence"? What fucking bizzaro alternate universe do these people live in? All they have to do is mention suspension and 2/3 of us will toss almost anyone under the bus. Mention sued and fired and the other 1/3 will also. There is no benefit to anyone for covering for an asshole. When will the public figure this out? Never, because it works well in these lawsuits.
11/14/2012 06:57:00 AM
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After the questions start getting asked is when there's no shenanigans. The problem with Abate/ Jefferson Tap/ the rest isn't the original behavior. The fall out tfrom that can be managed. The problem is 1st responding off waved off by drunk a drunk sgt with a bleeding civilian and a phone broken by cpd. Both that owner and w Abate they were "talked to" by people trying to make it go away.
No professional courtesy when it comes to battery +. W/out the rest it's just one drunk bad cop who makes everyone else on the force look that much better. But the phone calls? It looks bad.
I still can't figure out how they got that ruling in Jefferson? Fighting words w no witness other than other accused?
It's never the act. It's always the cover up. Are drunk, out of district strangers who might be mutts worth your career?
Former Police Superintendent Richard "DicK" BREEZE-ACK (mispelling intentional)was on WLS this afternoon, being asked about the "Police code of silence" by Sam Adam JR. When asked how the City can change the behavior of CPD officers, so the city can avoid these types of civil judgements..he responded, with some rambling answer that implied that the city should take all the money that is awarded to plaintiffs by judges, as a result of CPD misconduct, and subtract it as a line item in the police departments budget,than take that amount and reduce the salaries of all CPD officers across the board, by THAT amount. "Then they'll change their behavior!" THis guy is a DICK! This job was good to him..he got a law degree provided by CPD..and a six figure "gold braid" pension for the past 20+ years..and he talks like that about US! Fuck that piece of shit!..typical lawyer scum!!What a sell out! 11/14/2012 10:21:00 PM
No doubt he's assh**e, but he neve received his pension. Harold Washington dumped him as Supe with just under 20 yrs. He retired as W/C in the 001 dist.
Richard Brzeczek's son is a state trooper and he's ALWAYS mother fucking Chicago cops, along with his potty mouthed wife.
1) as now mentioned, this was a 1983 action. Therefore attorneys fees are billed separately to the loser. The City is on the hook for about $1.5 million. This was not a state court [tort] action.
2) you stupid hair gel - CBR stands for "cash bond returned". Go back to Mom's basement.
Code of Silence"... wasn't that Joe Kosala's acting debut?
11/14/2012 07:49:00 PM
Haha I miss ole Joe
How come nobody has videotaped a shit-faced McBrew on Rush St.? If I knew where he drank I'd do it myself!
Anonymous said...
Isn't the bartender an illegal? Can they sue and get civil rights judgments here in the U.S. while illegal? That seems crazy to me.
11/14/2012 07:51:00 AM
Intresting question.... Isn't her monetary award considered income? I wonder if the IRS and ICE will get involved with this one.
11/14/2012 10:35:00 PM
From what I remember reading, everyone in the U.S. is afforded civil rights, legal or illegal--that includes visitors. Don't think a civil judgement is considered income, either, but I could be wrong.
Anonymous said...
Former Police Superintendent Richard "DicK" BREEZE-ACK (mispelling intentional)was on WLS this afternoon, being asked about the "Police code of silence" by Sam Adam JR. When asked how the City can change the behavior of CPD officers, so the city can avoid these types of civil judgements..he responded, with some rambling answer that implied that the city should take all the money that is awarded to plaintiffs by judges, as a result of CPD misconduct, and subtract it as a line item in the police departments budget,than take that amount and reduce the salaries of all CPD officers across the board, by THAT amount. "Then they'll change their behavior!"
THis guy is a DICK! This job was good to him..he got a law degree provided by CPD..and a six figure "gold braid" pension for the past 20+ years..and he talks like that about US! Fuck that piece of shit!..typical lawyer scum!!What a sell out!
11/14/2012 10:21:00 PM
I'd like to send him a letter. Do you know if he works anywhere, or how to contact him?
That is so disrespectful. Not to mention that is a perfect way to alienate all the great, honest coppers on this job. I am really, really pissed!
Yes, the city does pay the Lawyers fees. In Federal court when a case goes to trial, regardless of the award the city has to pay the lawyers fees. There has been cases where the complainant wins $20,000.00 but the lawyer bills the city and gets paid 900,000.00. That is why most of the above listed kind of lawsuits are filed in Federal court rather then state court. So, yes she will get 850,000 tax free. Then Ekl will get more then her, somthing like 1.5 million.
11/14/2012 08:40:00 PM
Finally someone who knows what theyre talking about!! THATS why they argue so passionately. The Polacks measly $800G, is nothing compared to what the City will owe Ekl in legal fees for winning. Now had they lost, Ekl would be SOL...
Former Police Superintendent Richard "DicK" BREEZE-ACK (mispelling intentional)was on WLS this afternoon, being asked about the "Police code of silence" by Sam Adam JR. When asked how the City can change the behavior of CPD officers, so the city can avoid these types of civil judgements..he responded, with some rambling answer that implied that the city should take all the money that is awarded to plaintiffs by judges, as a result of CPD misconduct, and subtract it as a line item in the police departments budget,than take that amount and reduce the salaries of all CPD officers across the board, by THAT amount. "Then they'll change their behavior!"
THis guy is a DICK! This job was good to him..he got a law degree provided by CPD..and a six figure "gold braid" pension for the past 20+ years..and he talks like that about US! Fuck that piece of shit!..typical lawyer scum!!What a sell out!
11/14/2012 10:21:00 PM
I heard this also, this jag wants jury awards to come out of our contract!! What a tool, few people have benefited more than he did and he turns on the Dept...
Wow.The guy's not even in his grave and you're shitting all over him.Classy. Let it go.FWIW I met Sergio and thought he was an OK guy.
RIP Big guy.
11/14/2012 06:58:00 PM
That guy should never have been on the job. Worked on the same zone as he did--could not understand a f*cking word he said, not to mention he was dumber than a stump.
And he was a woman beater as well.
Not exactly a role model.
Lots of college and NO common sense
Well She was just tryong to protect a cop youd want that too if you were the guy in trouble Shes a leagder and I know your jelous or jello
11/14/2012 05:51:00 PM
Can anyone translate this for me?
I'm a retired Detective but during my career was sued twice in Federal,Court by Former Police Supt. Richard Breeze -Ache,, his history as a private attorney was to sue Police Officers in federal court and the other was to represent Polish immigrants charges with shoplifting. He got his law degree working the desk on midnights as a Youth Officer,never did police work but an expert on police ethnics as he is an expert on marriage behavior, I believe he called himself at one time a sex addict.
Is Deb Kirby related to Judge John Kirby? Just wondering.
how about a topic post of 012 and 013 merger for the blog
When policemen break the law there is no law just the fight for survival.
Billy Jack
It's all bull shit. This fuckin court system is bullshit. He maybe an asshole but how the fuck is your or anyone's employer responsible for your actions... regardless if itson duty or off duty. What you're telling me is that if I work for Motorola an go out to kill bunch of people ..their families are are going to sue Motorola for having crazy employee?! Are you kidding me! City better appeal this. He's responsible for his own actions! Sue him. This whole country is based on suing everybody. Apple is suing Samsung because their ipad also has round corners. I think city should challenge every case, so asshole lawyers get the fucking message. City is not giving money away anymore."
The case was in Federal Court because it was a Section 1983 Federal Civil Rights lawsuit. Victims of a Motorola employee can't sue Motorala for Civil Rights Violations--only Governmental agencies can violate civil rights. Motorola is a PRIVATE business. These attorneys needed to use the "Code of Silence" in order to tie the case to a governmental body (Chicago) to have a federal Civil Rights cause of action.
11/14/2012 10:18:00 AM
You don't get to be a 10-4 car much, do you?
Anonymous said...
Wow.The guy's not even in his grave and you're shitting all over him.Classy. Let it go.FWIW I met Sergio and thought he was an OK guy.
RIP Big guy.
11/14/2012 06:58:00 PM
That guy should never have been on the job. Worked on the same zone as he did--could not understand a f*cking word he said, not to mention he was dumber than a stump.
And he was a woman beater as well.
Not exactly a role model.
11/15/2012 07:37:00 AM
Who gave you the authority to say who should be or not be on the job? Jagoff!
Again, was he carrying at the time of the offense? If so, automatic dismissal. A drunk cop carrying? Tell me how this is safe by any stretch.
"Your behing the news. Sergio Oliva died..."
11/14/2012 09:36:00 AM
"Behing?"
Yourg esound ejus ling eheem.
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The City got stung because the coppers F'ed up. The bartender told the responding officers his what she thought his name was and that he was CPD. No mention of that in the GOCR. No mention of the video. No Sgt notified. No CR initiated.
Since the incident occurred inside a tavern, where was the Field Lt.? He is supposed to be there.
The IAD Lt. contradicted Kirby on the stand. Said he wanted felony charges, she didn't. The ASA didn't.
Any other copper did that beating and there was no felony, she would have gotten an over-ride.
It's time to face the fact that the management of CPD is out of control and needs total top to bottom re-vamping, not more playing musical chairs with bosses. Many need to retire, some need to be fired, others need to be demoted or resign. The rank and file no longer has any respect or confidence in their leadership, although most will only say so in private. None the less, it is true.
Class of 86?
Rookie!
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