Any of This Sound Familiar?
Yeah, it's the New York Times, but it sounds disturbingly similar to the alarm we've been sounding:
- SACRAMENTO — At first, it seemed just an unwelcome nod to frugality. Overtime for police officers was reduced. Vacant positions went unfilled.
But each year brought more bad news for this city’s Police Department. In 2011, faced with the biggest budget cuts yet — $12.2 million — Chief Rick Braziel was forced to take drastic action: he laid off sworn officers and civilian employees; eliminated the vice, narcotics, financial crimes and undercover gang squads, sending many detectives back to patrol; and thinned the auto theft, forensics and canine units. Police officers no longer responded to burglaries, misdemeanors or minor traffic accidents.
Earlier this year, the traffic enforcement unit was disbanded. The department now conducts follow-up investigations for only the most serious crimes, like homicide and sexual assault.
And how about this?
- Chief Braziel said he had tried to make the cuts strategically, making sure that the public’s highest priority — having a police officer respond in a timely fashion when a 911 call comes in — is met and preserving a focus on violent crimes. (“There’s no law that says you have to investigate homicides, but you don’t just stop investigating homicides,” he said.) Detectives serve on regional task forces led by the F.B.I. that focus on gangs and trafficking. To help morale, Chief Braziel has also offered short-term rotations to patrol officers, providing some variety now that their chances for promotion are severely limited.
“I could cry all day long about the budget cuts and the 30 percent and the loss of people and everything else,” Chief Braziel said. “But it doesn’t do any good because you get dealt a hand of cards with a budget crisis and you’re playing stud poker — you can’t give back the cards and say deal me two or three more.”
“You’ve got to figure out within the new rules of the game how to do it better,” he said.
But he is not blind to the effects of paring down a police force to its core.
In 2011, Chief Braziel said, the cuts, in his opinion, went past the tipping point. While homicides have remained steady, shootings — a more reliable indicator of gun violence — are up 48 percent this year. Rapes, robberies, aggravated assaults, burglaries and vehicle thefts have also increased, though in smaller increments.
Wow. It sure sounds like what's happening here. Of course, Rahm and McBraggart claim other crimes are down - something we take direct issue with. CompStat is perfect cover for altering/bending/lying about statistics and has been thoroughly debunked by former NYPD brass and university professors. At some point, you hit "diminishing returns." We'd speculate we hit that point about a year ago, given the 25% uptick in killings and who knows how many shootings.
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124 Comments:
Hey Chief hire more police. Mc dummy hire more police
They disbanded their traffic unit. So is Chicago PD. NONE OF THE RADARS WORK! It's been like that for months!
If you think you should have been a cowboy, just wait... The wild west is coming back soon. And it's already moved west to east!
You are way off on this one. If they were gonna lay off coppers here there wouldn't be a couple hundred in the academy with more starting before end of the year.
Crime is not down in Chicago. I tell Rahm all the time we need more boots on the ground. Were at best treading water. We need to hire more officers. Were at about 8500 officers right now. Far below where we need to be.
Garry M
Illinois Concealed Carry: 9 Counties To Vote On Measure
In April, several Chicago police officers went to Springfield to oppose the measure to lift the band, saying flaws in the gun permit system would be amplified by allowing people to carry concealed firearms.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/04/illinois-conceal-and-carry_n_2073007.html
The refusal to hire more police in Chicago is allowing crime to run rampant. The politicians will let the situation get so bad, that rather than hire more police, they'll float all of these laws (like House Bill #5831) that will purport to fix the problem. Citizens, desperate for relief, will allow them to pass.
rb
By law, the civilians get the axe first.
Then it'd go by reverse seniority. Hairgels still green and wet behind the ears get the Ol' Heave-Ho. And just when they were ready to move outta Mommys basement, imagine that!
Given the fact that I'm in the top 5% in seniority citywide, I won't be too concerned that there's a spot on the chopping block for my old ass.
And when they say "you're just gonna have to do more with less"?? Well let's just say this dinosaur has more than just one ace up his sleeve.
Chicago Weekend 11/04/2011 Totals:
2 Dead (Homicides @ $400K per investigation) == $800,000
17 Wounded By Gunfire @52K EMS/ER cost each == $884,000
Total == $1,684,000
Pissed away by the do-nothing mayor and the do nothing top cop. Might just as well throw the 50 do-nothing aldermen in there too!
One point six million!
Scc
I have news for you:
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
Well, no matter how McLiar and the Flaming Tutu slice this one, they'll use it to prove whatever point they want....
"At least we're not eliminating units like Sacramento is"....or "Look at Sacramento, we're in the same boat."
It's not going to be good either way.
But 9.5's proctologist found $55 million for another Daley landmark!
well well 020 district supervisosd have a lot of time on there hands
they are too many supervisors not enough officers so they seems to fuck with the minority .
bye byecommander moy
we need to gets rid pf these capts
"Fewer officers doesnt mean an increase in crime." Isnt that what McBushmills said?
Did anyone ever stop and think that all of these cuts of police units and service are the results of the economy hitting bottom during the present administration in Washington?
And although the cuts, etc. are getting worse, the mush in the White House keeps insisting that things are getting better.
This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron and most other democrats out of office.
Even my cats know that when you decrease the number of officers, crime increases. And these Ivy League educated mo-fo's can't figure this out??
Didn't Oakland CA go down this same path last year?
If there is no money, there is no money. Police cost money.
Chief Brazil,
'Ya gotta do it the Chicago way;
1st, rebuild a park, name it after a corrupt politicians wife ...shouldn't costs more than $55 million, some flower boxes would be nice but make sure they obstruct the view of traffic
2nd build, some bicycle lanes, $20/30 million should do.
Lastly, blanket the city with traffic cameras to pay for everything, just tell the folks " it's for the children ", it works here.
But don't, I repeat don't hire anymore police.
So let me get this straight. The Government can manufacture Cars, Batteries, Solar Panels, give out free cheese & welfare to lifetime moochers, free everything to illegals, pensions to their buddies for a few hours "work", run guns to Mexico, free birth control to 30 year-old Georgetown College Students, and put Cozzi in prison for a well deserved bitch-slap. But when it comes to even the most basic public safety, we can't afford it??
Why the hell did we ever leave England?
I was at comp stat meeting last week and watched as Tracy turned a shooting into an assault because he was very suggestive to the commander . This NY idiot thinks he is the " smoartez guyz" in the room
Daley was Stage IV cancer. Now Obama, Emanuel and McCarthy have jumped the shark.
Sounds like they need COMSTAT. to thin the numbers.
cpd has not layed anyone off but has certainly thinned the ranks thru attrition--- a lot of grumbling is going on outside the watch commanders office as coppers have to go beg for a day off using their own time on the books--- just wait till next year periods 6-9 when the graduations and summer vacations start....
SCC, why don't you try going to a compstat meeting. Maybe then you'll get off the "they want us to lie about the numbers" crap. This is NOT like NY's compstat.
As my wise Grandfather told me me after I got ripped off trying to get something for nothing: "You get what you pay for". Too bad, Rahmmy is trying to do the same.
What is "gun" violence? Is that like "knife" violence? Would someone tell those guns to chill out?
this is such bullshit that police is not a priority. i don't understand what could be more important than the safety of the citizens and the city. if people out there would believe what is going on before their very eyes then rahmie would be forced to do something. instead, people are going to have to find out the hard way with a near death experience or maybe worse just to finally believe that rahm is evil and doesn't care about the safety and well-being of the citizens of chicago. rahm and mcjersey are here to only handle our budget crisis temporarily. rahm wants to move up in office and mcjersey hopes to land another high-paying gig that he does not deserve. we are out there on our own people. be careful and don't take your safety for granted.
fuck rahm, fuck mcduffus, a meeting held at hdqrtrs to play with numbers...heres my number bitches!!!!! a big fat ass ZERO!
It's the Obamacrat way.
Reduce national and local security levels to increase entitlement programs for the deadbeat constituency.
The politicos have done nothing to reduce their own pay and expenditures. Nothing.
If this City is so well off, with crime being down and jobs overflowing, why do we need 50 Aldermen?
Boy you know people will be cheating like mad on this Sgt test!
"Fewer officers doesn't mean an increase in crime." Isn't that what McBushmills said?"
--11/05/2012 05:33:00 AM
The police are here to PRESERVE disorder!
>hic<
There is around 300 in the academy now with around 100 more starting at the end of November and around 100 more starting at the end of December.
@ 1:06am
your cpd check is the equivalent of a Link Card. quit bragging about how you do nothing and get paid. not much a difference between you and the savage. enjoy that top 5% jagbag
No money for police, but...
WHY DO CHICAGO TAXPAYERS PAY THIS MAN MORE THAN THE MAYOR?
"As the man responsible for overseeing construction of Chicago’s new schools, libraries, police stations and even a new harbor along the lakefront, James McConnell commands a salary from Chicago taxpayers higher than anyone at City Hall makes.
"That includes Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who recently agreed to extend to a fifth year the lucrative no-bid contract that will pay the politically connected construction-management firm where McConnell is executive vice president more than $95 million by the time it runs out next year."
http://www.suntimes.com/15975238-761/why-do-chicago-taxpayers-pay-this-man-more-than-the-mayor.html
"But when it comes to even the most basic public safety, we can't afford it??"
--11/05/2012 07:55:00 AM
What did Dr. Gary Slutkin do with the $1 million the city gave CeaseFire?
What a racket.
This is like that Matt Peskin who pays himself $450,000 per year off that "National Night Out Against Crime" operation.
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
--11/05/2012 06:07:00 AM
Four years later -
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
Four years later --
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
Etc.
What is wrong with this picture?
Chicago still has police officers hiding in the commanders office
police pay for being an office boy or girl
Hey 5% in seniority citywide. Its that attitude thats screwed up this dept. You only worry about yourself. Who's going to pay your pension if the lay offs come. There prob isn't enough in the fund whithout the contributions from these hairgels.
Sound Familiar ? Why ,yes. But does insolvency sound familiar? Chicago and Illinois are racing down the highway of insolvency and have the worst financial underpinnings in the country. Yes, it is possible and if it does happen, 5-10 years from now, all bets are off. And, yes, that means your pension and benefits. Things are so bad now many economists are not sure if it is possible to to save the structure. Government watchdogs are crying that the sky is falling and the unions are telling you all is well and things will work out. Well, things are not working out so well in California and it is predicted Illinois cities are next. US Cities will like cities in South America where the army goes in every few months to keep the lid on.
"Hey Chief hire more police. Mc dummy hire more police"
--11/05/2012 12:23:00 AM
They can't hear you-u-u-u...
Too busy counting all the money they say they don't have.
http://www.suntimes.com/15975238-761/why-do-chicago-taxpayers-pay-this-man-more-than-the-mayor.html
illinois has plenty of money set aside for LINK cards
OT --
Hurricane Sandy --
Skilling says that the figures are in and Sandy hit with more force than even Katrina.
Close to two million people are still without power, very cold there and another storm coming in -- more wind, rain, snow.
Last year the entire county of Sacramento had 91 murders, with a population of 1.4 million people
You can not compare it to Chicago.
I live near Sacramento, it may be wild west, but it is WAY safer than my home town of Chicago.
If Sacramento county had the same population of Chicago, it would have less than 180 murders a year, given SAC county's murder rate.
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/14/4263296/interactive-see-every-2011-sacramento.html
To 1:25 a.m. I agree we are going thru some bad times. It is hard to feel sorry for you if this is your biggest dilemma, I'm sure your family doesn't mind when you cash that duty availbilty check you get for working different schedules. Quit sweating about the small stuff and try and figure out how your gonna feed that family without a pension.
I have news for you:
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
Ur right that the supposed leader of the watch should provide this information. One day notice is ridiculous. However, someone above the Lt. is probably to blame, like the XO. You may also have yourselves to blame. Allowing yourselves to be held down on missions for the last one to two hours of your tour on a nightly basis for the past year or so probably didn't help your cause. You took yourselves out of the game. Good luck with your family issues, one day notice is a slap in the face.
"2 Dead (Homicides @ $400K per investigation) == $800,000"
--11/05/2012 01:19:00 AM
Not necessarily. What was our rough figure? Dics drop 80% of investigations because of uncooperative/hostile victims/witnesses? "You the police. You figure it out."
..then the guy goes back to the block and dodges and weaves around and walks backwards for another few months before they blast him again...
"Din' see nuthin'" is official CeaseFire policy, by the way. We paid a million dollars for this. They made sure the Mayo was straight with it before they condescended to take the money, too.
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
Anonymous said...
You are way off on this one. If they were gonna lay off coppers here there wouldn't be a couple hundred in the academy with more starting before end of the year.
11/05/2012 12:37:00 AM
They already have laid off hundreds of police officers here. Over a thousand really. Here they lay off through attrition. In Sacramento they lay off by reverse seniority. Daley started the layoffs by not hiring to keep pace with retirements. Our numbers have been shrinking for years.
We can at least be thankful they didn't do layoffs of the young guys, they waited for the old guys to retire and simply did not replace them.
That they are hiring a few dozen means nothing when we are well over a thousand officers short.
Anonymous said...
Scc
I have news for you:
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
11/05/2012 01:25:00 AM
I bet Ofc Moyer is still working 1908, the crossing guard supervisor. Does that name sound familiar? Like related to an old commander of 019?
Yup, Full Duty PO is the crossing guard supervisor at $86,000 a year. Plus a blue and white car. And city gas etc. This is to save money. See they eliminated the civilian job of crossing guard supervisor. That pay grade was around $40,000. So to save money they replaced that civilian job with a Full Duty Police Officer making more than double the salary. Saving money the Chicago Way.
Someone with clout too. That is how they "save money" here with the smoke and the mirrors.
Check your PDT's, see if 1908 is up on 2nd watch. Oh, Sat & Sun off too. For a nice stable family life, you know.
Anonymous said...
So let me get this straight. The Government can manufacture Cars, Batteries, Solar Panels, give out free cheese & welfare to lifetime moochers, free everything to illegals, pensions to their buddies for a few hours "work", run guns to Mexico, free birth control to 30 year-old Georgetown College Students, and put Cozzi in prison for a well deserved bitch-slap. But when it comes to even the most basic public safety, we can't afford it??
Why the hell did we ever leave England?
11/05/2012 07:55:00 AM
Because England has Universal Health Care. Citizens pay nothing for a doctor visit or a hospital visit. It is paid out of taxes. And doctors are not wealthy, they are comfortable but their salary is controlled.
But who would want Universal Health Care that is free? That is socialism. Better the mish-mosh of fucking bullshit like we now have here. I bet Daley never complains about his health care. Or Rahm.
So I don't have to respond to that traffic accident with injuries?
i want to thank all my bosses from msf that i worked for making arrest after arrest, and not one stood up for all of us being displaced to the south side. over a year hardly any bids. you are fools if you still put ur freedom on the line for these selfish prick...i learned the hardway..
Anonymous said...
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
11/05/2012 02:21:00 PM
Why don't you tell the whole story ahole, You must be a democrat "telling half truths to stir the pot."
The beat car that came on cw2 and made the request stated " the point of entry was contaminated and the phone was too by the victim.
Hey I'll be racing over their for a dog and pony show.
Why didn't you tell them about contamination.
There is a reason why you are RBT.
"Fewer officers doesn't mean an increase in crime."
Fewer vibrant people means a decrease in crime!
Think quick, What's the common denominator between Detroit and Portland?
Our leader is trying his hardest to move the vibrancy to the surrounding areas. He's gonna make the DuPage county republicans find out what diversity and vibrancy really means. Increased crime and the need for more police. It can't happen soon enough. Cabrini Green already gone. Whose housing complex is next? A few more down and Chicago will no longer need such a large police department. Let the suburbs worry about it.
Prediction; New job openings in the suburbs. Better put in you resumes's now.
Rahm, and his union busting yes men, are taking copious notes.
Our contract negotiations this time around are likely to be the most contentious, and most important, of our entire careers.
I don't have tons of faith in Mikey but I'm hoping he surrounds himself with sharp, tough as nails, veteran labor negotiators. Rahm is smelling blood in the water.
No money for police in Cali? Significant info --
Illegal Immigration Costs California Over Ten Billion Annually -- State's "cheap labor" costs average household $1,183 a year
"In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study...examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.
"...the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body.
"Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal alien criminals...."
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
As in Cali, so too here in DaleyRahm's "Sanctuary City."
Heard a radio report the other day, another small municipality on our area is talking about disbanding its PD and throwing enforcement onto the county...
Sacramento does not have the revenue streams to support the police department that they would like to have therefore they must reduce services.
This is what is happening in Chicago.
I believe it is imperative that every police officer should do as much as possible to generate funds for the city. I write as many parking citations and movers as I can with the hope that the city will have the funds to pay my pension in the future!
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
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ET's are really shorthanded, they've had a lot retire and no one promoted to fill those voids. Don't blame the ET's, they just don't have the bodies. They need to have another test, last test was 7 years ago, at least.
the 20th dist day supervisors dont do SHIT. They hear or see nadda. Today 2010 forgot 2011 at Swedish on a pris guard, she was looking for him at check-off. TRUE STORY DUH.
I'll believe we are in a real crisis when they take the Dual Crew of desk personnel in 019, and put their bimbo/midget bicycle act in a beat car. As long as northside districts like 019,020 and 024 fill slots that could be civilian with career desk lizards and take care of bimbos on bikes, there is no crisis or shortage of personnel. So fluff up your hair gel and continue shopping on duty.
Anonymous said...
To 1:25 a.m. I agree we are going thru some bad times. It is hard to feel sorry for you if this is your biggest dilemma, I'm sure your family doesn't mind when you cash that duty availbilty check you get for working different schedules. Quit sweating about the small stuff and try and figure out how your gonna feed that family without a pension.
11/05/2012 01:42:00 PM
I completely agree....OMG, it's the end of the world! Obviously a post by someone who's never had much life experience. Get over it you crybaby! Jeeez!
Ya 20 has lots of bosses. To bad they are fucking usless. Once again a big speech in rollcall, everyone good ONE day than back to the bullshit we all do to eachother. But dont miss the dismissal or 2050 will be pissed.LOL.
@02:21 --- Yup, when you have to have ET's respond to violent crimes first, the burglary gets lower priority. ET's haven't had any new people in years (just like everywhere else). I do remember a time when police officers inventoried stuff themselves to send to crime lab.... perhaps there could be a way for that kind of evidence to be submitted and not get screwed up in court...
Anonymous said...
@ 1:06am
your cpd check is the equivalent of a Link Card. quit bragging about how you do nothing and get paid. not much a difference between you and the savage. enjoy that top 5% jagbag
11/05/2012 12:04:00 PM
Says the Hairgel living in Moms basement afraid of getting cut from Team CPD right after all the civilians go bye bye. Too bad you won't make it long enough to be in the top 5%, KID.
Anonymous said...
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
11/05/2012 02:21:00 PM
You are in the D Unit. Are things really that bad for you?
Do you really need an ET to recover a cell phone in a burglary? What good will the phone do you down in ERPS? Can't the officer simply open the phone, search the menu, find the suspect's phone number, document it in his report, and inventory the phone in the station? Can't the PO send a fax to unit 606 requesting subscriber info for the phone just as easily as a detective can?
Then, can't the ET just go later and dust a couple of spots for prints if there are in fact any likely prints?
It's a fucking burglary. It's not that complicated. The real problem is that the patrol officer responding to the scene does nothing and this department loves it that way. All the POs are doing is notifying someone else to do the job they should be doing. POs are supposed to do a Preliminary Investigation. In a burglary they are really supposed to do the whole investigation because no detective is coming to the scene. All the detective has to do is look for the stolen stuff in a Leads database and wait for prints to hit in IBIS. Explain why a PO is unable to do this. Every other police department in the nation has POs handle burglaries, why not here?
There is actually no reason why a PO cannot do an entire burglary investigation by himself, if this dumb ass department would just let them. For that matter there is no reason why a PO cannot do an investigation into a strong armed robbery all by himself.
What I'm trying to say is that there is no reason to even have an RBT unit. Simply have violent crimes handle Armed Robberies, Murders, Shootings, and Rapes and the POs can handle everything else.
But this will never happen because Patrol has gotten so used to passing off their responsibilities that they've learned to love it.
I saw an interesting sign at the bus stop at 5150 N. Lincoln Ave (20th District). It said " a burglar is in my home call 911 - I wasn't in my home call 311" this sign was sponsored by the City of Chicago. I understand the 911 system is often abused by some of this citys constituents, but I feel this is in poor taste. What is expected of people? Even though the impulse of most is to go through their homes and discover what is missing, I would hope a citizen (particularly if they are unarmed) would call the police to ensure no offender is on scene before doing so. I understand there may be pros and cons to this. It's upsetting to see more of the onset of what this city may soon come to be.
Anonymous said...
You are way off on this one. If they were gonna lay off coppers here there wouldn't be a couple hundred in the academy with more starting before end of the year.
11/05/2012 12:37:00 AM
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Not unless you want to churn the workforce. Unload the people with higher pay and benefits, replace them with lower pay and benefit rookies.
Happens all the time. And happens with unions. It's called a "buy-out"
Also a couple hundred in the academy, ha, does it come close to replacing the thousands set to retire?
Don't get fooled by the jobs numbers. Hours are being cut to below 30 per week at corporations to avoid providing Obamacare.
That's a 25% wage cut. Sure if creates some jobs. Part-time no-benefit ones. They are growing NOTHING.
What is wrong with this picture?
11/05/2012 12:18:00 PM
vote for me and i'll set you free.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
"But when it comes to even the most basic public safety, we can't afford it??"
--11/05/2012 07:55:00 AM
What did Dr. Gary Slutkin do with the $1 million the city gave CeaseFire?
What a racket.
This is like that Matt Peskin who pays himself $450,000 per year off that "National Night Out Against Crime" operation.
11/05/2012 12:13:00 PM
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Not to mention that $55 million dollar Maggie Daley park "entitlement" that they mayor is shoving down our throats.
Meanwhile the cook country pres. Preckwinkle signs off on a $42 million dollar tax increase.
Why not just not build that $55 mil. dollar park and give that money to the county? I don't see the residents demanding the park be built. What taxpayers are demanding this park? I don't see them. They'll build it and them blame the greedy taxpayers demanding 'entitlement' and how these 'entitlements' are bankrupting the city.
Naw, you see what it happening?
The leaders have to first create the crisis so that they can come to the rescue later after another 67% tax increase.
If there is no money, there is no money. Police cost money.
11/05/2012 06:52:00 AM
well, at least you can take comfort in the fact that my services are at no cost to you.
so far.
Chalkie
No bullshit; Romney is going to win. We can get this country in the right direction. Hope the savages dont act up when their guy loses. They dont need a reason, do they? So they'l probably act a fool.
Read our presidents message in the November FOP newsletter. I want to qualify this by stating I was a vocal supporter of Mikes in the District. mike has been beating the drum for a year about a manpower shortage upwards of 2,000 officers. The city has promised to hire 430 officers by years end. It is November and that number has not been met. The city promises to hire 500 more officers next year. Mike has declared victory after a promise to hire less than half of the shortage. Mike they lied by not hiring enough this year, what makes you think they will keep a promise next year. Even if they do hire next year thats less than 7 officers per watch! I have to admit there is something wrong with you.
we need a big class of EVIDENCE TECHS!cant get an et available to process a CRIME SCENE!ANOTHER REASON CRIMES GO UNSOLVED!
The elite corporate CEO's, the Wall street bankers, and their lapdog politicians don't give a damn about the police force!!
Hell naw. They have their private security.
If there's no shit going down on their block WHO CARES!
Give us more tax breaks we are not going to pay for your educational system, hospitals, public service, etc... You should build us parks because we are the job creators. Now kneel down before your owners.
The checks and balances are gone and there are no regulations of anything at their level.
Case in point is NYC and the recent floods.
Hospitals being evacuated because generators failed. WTF is that? Then you're gonna have the political apparatus pop up and tell us "We're a World-Class city" We're number one, we're number one? HAHAHA.
Tell it to the nurses carrying the NICU unit newborns down the hospital stairs in the dark.
Do the corporate, and political apparatus care if the power grid fails? HELL NAW, they have their personal back-up systems going why should they care about anyone else!
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/commentary-total-capitalism-and-the-downfall-of-america-a-865437.html
Little man complex #2 must be worried the the animals from the Pennsylvania Zoo are gonna attack in Chicago tomorrow since he canceled days off for Tuesday at the last minute. It can't be because of the election since they knew about that 4 years ago.
Anonymous said...
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
--11/05/2012 06:07:00 AM
Four years later -
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
Four years later --
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
Etc.
What is wrong with this picture?
11/05/2012 12:18:00 PM
Oh crap! A realist on the blog?..not just spewing conservative radio one liners? If anyone feels better about the future of the country with either of these parties being in control I question your judgment. You're a working man and both parties want you to take it on the chin...YOU'RE NOT RICH AND YOU DON'T HAVE POLITICAL POWER. Elmer Fudd can be president and you'll still be in that category.
I saw the merit picks (in dress blues) interviewing today for Detective at 35th Street. It looks like the Sup's driver, MB, will be a merit pick.
I can only assume the Detective class is being finalized...
Anonymous said...
Scc
I have news for you:
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
11/05/2012 01:25:00 AM
I bet Ofc Moyer is still working 1908, the crossing guard supervisor. Does that name sound familiar? Like related to an old commander of 019?
Yup, Full Duty PO is the crossing guard supervisor at $86,000 a year. Plus a blue and white car. And city gas etc. This is to save money. See they eliminated the civilian job of crossing guard supervisor. That pay grade was around $40,000. So to save money they replaced that civilian job with a Full Duty Police Officer making more than double the salary. Saving money the Chicago Way.
Someone with clout too. That is how they "save money" here with the smoke and the mirrors.
Check your PDT's, see if 1908 is up on 2nd watch. Oh, Sat & Sun off too. For a nice stable family life, you know.
11/05/2012 03:22:00 PM
The biggest joke in 019 is the fake "Robbery team" they have! I know this sounds unbelieveable, but 019 has a "robbery" team that works from 0600 to 1400 and is off every Sat and Sunday. They work the opposit hours and days of when the robberies actually occurr. One would think a "robbery" team would work nights and on the weekends when the robberies happen. This is like going to the airport to catch a plane when the airport is closed. What a joke!
Ignor the crack in the dam everything is good!
If there is no money, there is no money. Police cost money.
11/05/2012 06:52:00 AM
The biggest problem here is there is always $$$ for what they want. 55 million for a Maggie park, bike lanes, etc.
Oh, and BTW, if you pay any attention to the 'homeless' floating around your station, you will notice that Catholic Charities now has the contract to take all the homeless people to 10 S. Kedzie or wherever.
I don't remember hearing the Dept. of Family and Support Services firing any employees or getting rid of any vans, but we now have money to subcontract out dealing with the homeless.
"Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice."
= Chicago Police Department.
1st day on the job, eh kid?
"Why the hell did we ever leave England?"
The forefathers were very, very different than the people running what we're calling "government" today.
"Daley was Stage IV cancer. Now Obama, Emanuel and McCarthy have jumped the shark."
The latter three are the cancers that turn up in your other organs once you think you've beaten the first one.
If Dr. Seuss could ever write a book about the state of CPD and the way the criminal-political class plays games with the amount of manpower and how it correlates with crime and the perception of it?
"Fuckery With Numbers" would be the title.
The Cat In the Hat would be laid out on the ground with a big goose-egg on his head while 9.5 and McMuttonhead (Thing #1 and #2) are going through his pockets...
The follow-on is tentatively titled "My Foot... Is Up In Your Ass."
On a side note... The lunatic in charge of Chicago has been flitting around like a deranged little fruit bat on a bad caffeine jag...
Siddown ya little twirp... Ya making us tired just trying to keep your little narrow ass in sight!
Heh... There is part of us that hopes the NEW and REPUBLICAN administration has absolutely no love, pity or compassion for these foul fucks running Chicago...
We predict a lot of "M" plated "executive sedans" being found in forest preserves with occupants sucking on a .38 caliber binky... If ever the feds decide to do righteously hateful digging.
Uneasy lies the head on the pillow of fuckery.
Four years later --
"This is bullshit and the only thing that can save this great nation from destruction is to vote this moron...out of office."
Etc.
What is wrong with this picture?
Not enough morons to choose from, that's what's wrong!
That, plus we need term limits, recall provisions and more than two main candidates to choose from.
"Chicago still has police officers hiding in the commanders office
police pay for being an office boy or girl "
The first word in your observation explains it all.
It's always been that way. It will always be that way.
Now get out there & write some movers, parkers, bus checks & contact cards.
Nobody cares about (you) patrol.
F*ck CompStat. Period. It's turned my former well-liked commander into an old crabby man.
If there is no money, there is no money. Police cost money.
11/05/2012 06:52:00 AM
If there is no money, how are flower-planter boxes, boat houses, Maggie Parks, bike lanes, ralroad trails, 24hr security details for ex-mayors, million dollar payoffs to CeaseWhatever, all being paid for?
Given the fact that I'm in the top 5% in seniority citywide, I won't be too concerned that there's a spot on the chopping block for my old ass.
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You are really an asshole.
The young officers fund the pension you stupid one way jagoff
All you have is your seniority, you never did a goddamm thing on the street, if you did you'd know what kind of an asshole you really are.
019 has 6 tact team one assigned to mid nights Thursday to Sunday. 1 1906 car on third watch and 2 qualify of life cars on third watch. We have had to send 1 po to 016 all period AND have 15 officers on medical or IOD. You were told last week to start planning for an early start. Your cryin here is what's so wrong with the department. Last week we had 12 to 15 one Man units, yet you still think your precious start time of 1730 is all that matters? A dead police officer is what matters to me. If you don't like a boss that wants to ensure officer safety, too freaking bad. 15 officers on the medical is ridicules and WiILL bite us all in the ass.
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
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I'm calling this bullshit, this is either someone on the ET list that wishes to be promoted or someone with no time, hoping they offer a new ET test. "At least 2-3 times a week"? yeah right
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
Oh for Christ sake! No rapids just means that your start times change. Big deal! You are not getting laid off. Did they say anthing about breaking up partners? Probably not.
It seems like nationwide police/crime is not priority. The new motto seems to be cut police and lie about numbers.
they have to lay off every civilian employee before any sworn are laid off. and that aint happenin'
Anonymous said...
Sound Familiar ? Why ,yes. But does insolvency sound familiar? Chicago and Illinois are racing down the highway of insolvency and have the worst financial underpinnings in the country. Yes, it is possible and if it does happen, 5-10 years from now, all bets are off. And, yes, that means your pension and benefits. Things are so bad now many economists are not sure if it is possible to to save the structure. Government watchdogs are crying that the sky is falling and the unions are telling you all is well and things will work out. Well, things are not working out so well in California and it is predicted Illinois cities are next. US Cities will like cities in South America where the army goes in every few months to keep the lid on.
11/05/2012 12:40:00 PM
Thanks Mr/Ms Sunshine...
Why the hell did we ever leave England?
11/05/2012 07:55:00 AM
Because they let the Muslims take over their country, just like we'll let the minority over breeders take over ours. Now go brush up on your Spanish.
Anonymous said...
By law, the civilians get the axe first.
Then it'd go by reverse seniority. Hairgels still green and wet behind the ears get the Ol' Heave-Ho. And just when they were ready to move outta Mommys basement, imagine that!
Given the fact that I'm in the top 5% in seniority citywide, I won't be too concerned that there's a spot on the chopping block for my old ass.
And when they say "you're just gonna have to do more with less"?? Well let's just say this dinosaur has more than just one ace up his sleeve.
11/05/2012 01:06:00 AM
Here's a typical dumb fuck cop. Hey tough guy, when they lay all those "hairgels" off, who the fuck do you think is going to pay into your pension? You'll be eating cat food in your retirement after a career of doing nothing for a paycheck. You'll have to ask that bar hag on the stool next to you to buy you a drink because you'll have nothing when they take your pension. Fool.
Anonymous said...
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
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I'm calling this bullshit, this is either someone on the ET list that wishes to be promoted or someone with no time, hoping they offer a new ET test. "At least 2-3 times a week"? yeah right
11/06/2012 12:05:00 AM
And I'm calling bullshit on your post. I'm not the original poster but he or she is 100 percent spot on. IF you worked in RBT aka Property Crimes you would know this.
The biggest joke in 019 is the fake "Robbery team" they have! I know this sounds unbelieveable, but 019 has a "robbery" team that works from 0600 to 1400 and is off every Sat and Sunday. They work the opposit hours and days of when the robberies actually occurr. One would think a "robbery" team would work nights and on the weekends when the robberies happen. This is like going to the airport to catch a plane when the airport is closed. What a joke!
11/05/2012 08:24:00 PM
It's probably a burglary team and you are just an idiot.
I have news for you:
Rapid cars will no longer be used according to our late rapid Sgt in19. Its seems that 19 doesn't have the manpower and created too many 06 cars. Our 3rd watch LT Plotke didn't even have the guts to tells that today is our last day on rapids. He had our Sgt break the news to us. But wait-we have 8 tact teams, 6 foot guys, and 4 1906 cars. Awesome lets break the news to our families giving them one day notice.
I have more news for you:
We are our own worst enemy. The contract allows them to adjust your starting time 2 hrs either way ANYTIME they want. Normally work a 1700 car? They can't start you at 1500 up to 1900 anytime they want. Don't like it, well, then it's contract time. Work to get that changed.
McCarthy , train all future recruits to dust for fingerprints .
This will reduce the promotion of new E.T. 's and provide better service for citizens of chicago .
I think everyone is missing the point here. By thinning the troops, thereby allowing the savage to do what he does, Rham has guaranteed crime will reduce in the long run because the badest of the bad will be dead due to all the bloodshed in the short run. Brilliant really. Think of the cost savings and political swag (think Obama blaming economic ills on Bush) he will realize down the road. Less wasted money on CPS, on law enforcement, welfare, Obama care etc...... It's all about perspective; he's doing us a favor by letting Darwinian principles take effect.
At 5:22pm. you sound like an outstanding copper. please tell me some if your great war stories. i wish i could have been like you and come on the job with 20+ years. you sound like a real crowd pleaser, enjoy that top 5% seniority around the holidays (alone). youre a goof. we need hair gels for our pension
I work in 019. The truth of the matter is that I prefer to work as a 10-99 unit whenever my regular partner is off. Officer Safety is a matter of paramount importance, of course. However, it is a mindset,too. Unfortunately, many officers are complacent or distracted and not being “in the moment” while on duty sometimes leads to tragic results. Take a look around you next time in Roll Call. If you can’t spot the coppers who are a liability to your safety and who will compromise you, then you’re one of them. Stay safe and please join me in silently singing the CPD anthem:
We have a company,
That you can join for free,
And kids in every neighborhood belong;
It's the Funny Company,
'Cause it's just for fun you see,
So come a running when you hear our song;
Come to order, come to order,
Says our president;
And when the Funny Company meets,
Here's just what we present;
Things to see, and things to do,
Stories, songs, toys;
All sorts of things of interest,
And fun for girls and boys!
019- read the responses and all say the same, 6 tact teams, 10 foot guys, 2 quality of life cars and 1 mission car on the third watch, and 15 people on the medical. Well, genious, you said it all. Keep all these people in their "spot" and fuck over the POs with families that need the late roll call. And, these cars you speak of,not getting any calls, up and clear doing who knows what, would'nt, nor would they know what to do in an emergency situation. So crawl back under your rock, and keep your eyes closed, the tour is almost over. YOU are the problem, go fuck yourself !
15 people on medical/iod in 019? Can't say I blame them if the xo or cmdr is denying everyone time like the rest of these jagoffs across the the city. That's the only way to get a break from this job now because only 3 people can take off any given day- even during the week. These clowns that call themselves bosses don't understand that people have lives outside this circus of a department. Inevitably, you will see more people hitting the medical than ever before, including those that pride themselves on never using it, for that reason. I'm noticing the activity boxes becoming emptier with each passing day. . . .
Let's see 019 has to man 2 desk crews one in the new 019 and another in Area North the old 019. Ok I get that but why are there 2 desk Sgt.s ? I can see having one in Area North since it's a lockup facility but why a deal Sgt. in the new 019 when they have a Lt. as the DSS? and I have also noted another thing when Sgt. is the DSS there also is another Sgt. as the desk Sgt. That's right 2 Sgts working inside. Also how bout these quality of life cars? You got a auto theft car, 1906 that rides around in a marked car but in CD. Also CD bike team and 2 other CD unmarked cars. Don't know what they do but it ain't much especially when there are 6-12 one man cars on 3rd watch. Now rhe rapid guys are pissed cause they have to work earlier. The rapids had it made before cause they worked a shortened day now they have to actually handle jobs and can't stay down on missions all night. Don't know if this is coming from the Lt. or higher up.
F*ck all you dawgs. I'm a merit hack and deserved this promotion. I landed in a southside district and I can't wait to strick it to my first lazy blue shirt. No more 45 minutes on a job. I'm riding on as many as I can, and I will seek the mutts out. I'm not a company man, but I am a professional. Be afraid, be very afraid. Bawhaaaaa ! Oh by the way I have detective experience. I don't suspend cases, I solve them.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I work in the D unit in RBT. At least 2-3 times a week, I'm apologizing to burglary victims who waited hours for an ET, who never showed up. I tell them that we are very shorthanded and to call the mayor, their alderman & the superintendent & complain.
Last week a burglar dropped his cell phone on the scene of an attempt burglary. The officers were still waiting 4 hours later for an ET to come & process the phone. When their sergeant called, he was told there were only TWO ET's working in the entire area and that this job was a low priority!
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I'm calling this bullshit, this is either someone on the ET list that wishes to be promoted or someone with no time, hoping they offer a new ET test. "At least 2-3 times a week"? yeah right
11/06/2012 12:05:00 AM
And I'm calling bullshit on your post. I'm not the original poster but he or she is 100 percent spot on. IF you worked in RBT aka Property Crimes you would know this.
11/06/2012 09:02:00 AM
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I'll one-up-ya. I work RBT and patrol rarely even calls for an ET. Aside from whether patrol is wrong or wrong matters little - but the point I am trying to make is that if the ET was called as an ET is supposed to be called, they'd be far busier, and the victim's would wait far longer. We need more ET's.
It's all about perspective; he's doing us a favor by letting Darwinian principles take effect.
11/06/2012 11:08:00 AM
what, i don't get at least an attaboy here?
Chalkie
Oh by the way I have detective experience. I don't suspend cases, I solve them.
11/06/2012 03:48:00 PM
yeah, cases of Old Grandad......
For the 'dicks' battering the ET's just stop it already. They are down beyond even the D's percentages and the one poster was obviously an ET, contaminated crime scene and evidence, yet the original poster felt no shame in omitting this or wasting everyone's time. To the poster thinking PO's should process there own scenes you going to photograph and inventory the lifts, because that is what is involved. For the goof continually posting about 19 just stop it already, if it is that bad bid out, sorry you didn't make the burglary team you whine about.
Blood pain and suffering in poverty is your future.
Sounds like 19 district W/C Plotke is reading and responding to this blog. You say all your worried about is a PO being killed ? You are so full of shit Plotke. Inexperience will get people hurt, but all you see is your little pets are taken care of, Screw the rest of the watch right? Shame on you. Ricky. If you don't like what your watches have to say about you, then don't read the blog. And it must be anonymous, because of your retaliating tendancy. Jerk off.
Wow, what happened to "Family First" ? Either that 19 W/C doesn't have family or he hates his family. Its a big slap in the face to those POs. Sure hope the zeros are abundant at check off to show your pleasure in getting screwed around.
Who cares.
can we please get a real boss in 019?
Anonymous said...
The biggest joke in 019 is the fake "Robbery team" they have! I know this sounds unbelieveable, but 019 has a "robbery" team that works from 0600 to 1400 and is off every Sat and Sunday. They work the opposit hours and days of when the robberies actually occurr. One would think a "robbery" team would work nights and on the weekends when the robberies happen. This is like going to the airport to catch a plane when the airport is closed. What a joke!
11/05/2012 08:24:00 PM
It's probably a burglary team and you are just an idiot.
11/06/2012 09:04:00 AM
Sorry dipshit, but 019 has a Burglary team also. That's 1 Robbery team and 1 Burglary team. Got it?
OMG,Hey Plotke,dont you have anything better to do but to read this blog,then bitch about what people say about you at roll call? Truth hurts.
Thanks Mr/Ms Sunshine...
11/06/2012 07:10:00 AM
Your welcome. Face reality and think if Greece, Spain and Italy. If things dont change that is where we are headed. And, if you read the morning papers, the voters reelected all of the same democrats in this state that have caused the problems. The public employee unions run this state and the people are tired of it. The public employee pension amendment passed and you can bet if they put another one up during the next governors election to change pensions of all current and retired employees that too will pass.I think this was a test run.
don't hire anybody, just ok concealed carry.
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