012 / 013 Merger
A whole bunch of history is set to be closed with the closing of the Monroe and Wood stations. The new station near 14th and Racine is set to open 09 December. We're assuming the Department will rename the new 012th District if they haven't already.
So when does the other renumbering take place then? 025 is due to become 013. 024 would have to step down a digit or two. Who gets the 021 designation?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
95 Comments:
Who gets the 021 designation?
Rogers Park - The new 021
What will happen with the radio zones?
Will 014 be on a zone by itself?
two districts merging is a very good sociological experiment
Wonder what zone they will use.
013 officer, this really suxs
I've always been in favor of a playoff system, but I guess we just have to remain w/BCS.
when I started there were numbers up to 23 Except there was no 22 the Morgan Park Station was closed
What was 23 Tiown Hall had recently been 19. the new station at belmont & Western was to be named 23, but an error in the corner stone forced it to be called 19. The Town hall station was then renamed 23 It is now 19 again.
In the mean time the checks stil come out on the 1st and 16th
And we find out via the last item in the FOP email. Nice touch, McMoving Truck.
It will be called Near West District.
Chief Drunken Feather does not wish to have his parking lot renamed! 025 shall stay 025.
Yessss now I can eat in two of the districts that are known for the best resturants.
Can someone tell me why the city puts the district designator under the main entrance to police station as "District 12?" I notice that they did this at all new station. Why not "12th Distric?" That is how we refer to them
1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3 3 becomes 4. Oh wait 1 becomes 3, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 6. Hmmm now I am confused where do I go to patrol. Who will be my new boss? HELP.
I think i saw that 024 becomes 021, but why bother changing it. It cost money we allegedly don't have and it confuse everyone.
NYPD has gaps in the precinct numbering so GMac can follow that since he follows everything else from them.
024 will be 021
http://news.msn.com/us/atlanta-police-helicopter-crash-kills-two-officers-authorities
so sad- these Atlanta Officers were looking for a missing child...
Ive been talking about this and annoying the fuck out of everybody for the past 2 years and now its finally here. I ll be on furlough so i ll have to cancel my vacation and make sure i get a locker. I better still be able to get my usual may furlough because my seniority is gonna take a hit.
MG
Downsizing police should mean downsizing taxes.
Of course that will never happen because the IDIOT you taxpayers voted for needs to give away more GIFT CARDS.
ENJOY BEING DEMOCRATS. HAHAHAHA!
You heard it here first.
The new station will be named after McCarthy.
All this is not important. We need to know if the guys from 012/013 have enough Starbucks for all of them.
Just kidding, kids.
If they were smart, 025 would become 021 and 024 would become 013. The reason being would be less confusion on the radio zone. If our spectacular equipment isn't working right or our dispatchers who are working 16hrs a day are a little tired and mumbly, its better not to have two districts that end with teen or two districts that start with twenty on the same zone.
My bet is that 025 will be 013 for two reasons, the city isn't smart and 024 might close and merge with 020.
They just keep fucking everything up
I wonder if they changed the spelling yet to the big sign in the new 012 district that was spelled tactile office and who paid for it. I saw the picture of it someone should send to this blog. Very funny
State Police renumbered District 3 and 4 to District Chicago a few years ago. Maybe you can have District Daley or District Rahm!!!
Let's see how many po's get dumped to area south when they consolidate beats
Who even gives a shit anymore?
The new 12/13 will have how many beats? It will not be 18 that is for sure. I guess 12 beats so they will be over staffed and will have to send low seniority officers to 7, 3,4, or 5 wonderful Area South.it could be ugly amounts of travel time for North Siders with low seniority
Im gonna be 64 and retired for 13 yrs. Everyplace I was ever assigned is closed. Police cadet training at the old civil war hospital on obrien St.as well as recruit training. Gave out dog tickets from Maxwell and Morgan,Was at 012 as a Cadet and Patrolman, Made Sgt and went to the old 6 at 85th. and green and 005 at 115th and indiana and back to 012 and then to 010 at 23rd.and Damen where I retired out of. Lots of good times. Was fun to go to work in those days.
2 Districts, HALF the bosses?
Excellent.
Wait until the lowest 50 in seniority get dumped to some ghetto
Pontecore will not be the Commander, he toots his own horn to much, Lt Murphy from the building will be the new commander.
013 Officer, this really suxs.
Quit crying. How about going to 3,4,5,6,7 ect. shall I continue. 3rd watch or even midnights in the new 012 is better than any of those districts or the westside.
Your fellow new 012 Officer.
cpd=dysfunctional beyond all help......
Can someone tell me why the city puts the district designator under the main entrance to police station as "District 12?" I notice that they did this at all new station. Why not "12th Distric?" That is how we refer to them
11/04/2012 06:45:00 AM
That is because civilians in city government, like Bonnie Amato, hold our culture, our established directives and us, in contempt. It would be beneath them to seek advice on things they view as unimportant and trivial.
Any sworn member on our job and many CPD civilians know the district station designators should read 001st District, 002nd District, 003rd District, 004th District and so on down the line. The civilians in city government think it is insignificant and do not care that it is significant to us.
All I know is 4 and 6 need their own zones already. Reading this mcdrunken nugget?!
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me why the city puts the district designator under the main entrance to police station as "District 12?" I notice that they did this at all new station. Why not "12th Distric?" That is how we refer to them
11/04/2012 06:45:00 AM
Because some hack who isn't the police and doesn't care about CPD tradition decided so.
So how long before ciizens just do buglary reports on city website?
OT. Thanks to that retired poster about Colonoscopy, you saved me and my wife $10,000.00. We had ours scheduled but after reading his post my wife called Ben Mgmt and found out that if it was just "routine" there would be no coverage. You have to have a "diagnostic" problem for Rahm to pay for it! WTF, isn't that what Med professionals advise for people over 50! Something stinks! And it ain't the Colonoscopy tube!
11/02/2012 09:11:00 PM
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So, many here don't like ObamaCare, but it requires this test to be free, unless, one's (like CPD's) health plan is grandfathered.
BUT, if there are some changes to CPD's plan in the future, it may be required to be free. See:
http://www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/2010/06/keeping-the-health-plan-you-have-grandfathered.html .
I call on all to keep your old designators on. I will not change mine. Fuck this department and I'm going to eat on wells anyone care to join ?
No more clout baby's getting what they want in 012. Ha ha
The continued demise of a once great police department
29 and a day said...
when I started there were numbers up to 23 Except there was no 22 the Morgan Park Station was closed
What was 23 Tiown Hall had recently been 19. the new station at belmont & Western was to be named 23, but an error in the corner stone forced it to be called 19. The Town hall station was then renamed 23 It is now 19 again.
In the mean time the checks stil come out on the 1st and 16th
11/04/2012 01:13:00 AM
The old 19 at Halsted and Addison was to be closed years ago. Belmont and Western was the new 19. Due to the neighborhood in an uproar they kept old 19 open and renamed it 23. Belmont and Western also became Area 6. The old area 6 was at Grace and Damen where there now is a firehouse.
Later Area 3 on the southside was closed and Area 6 became Area 3 and later Area North.
The first DC of the new 19 was Terrible Tom Kernan. There is a pix somewhere of the Old Man (R J Daley) handing Kernan the keys to the new place in about 1976.
Now the old 19 which became 23 is 19 once again.
025 has always had a black clowd over it. Now they want to remname it 13? They may as well remanme it Alternate Response.
Hey Sgt. W.L., You got dumped from 012 to 010 after eating too much pizza you mooched from Home Run Inn.
Any sworn member on our job and many CPD civilians know the district station designators should read 001st District, 002nd District, 003rd District, 004th District and so on down the line. The civilians in city government think it is insignificant and do not care that it is significant to us.
Actually, you are wrong. You are confusing "Unit Designations for Payroll Purposes" for District numbers. It is the 1st District and Unit 001. The former was established for computer use and mail delivery while the latter is the actual name.
CLTV- the gun was stolen from Clifton Lewis during his murder has been recovered in a search warrant in 015. Mopey is charged with UUW, maybe he can shed some light on how he aquired it.
Let's see how many po's get dumped to area south when they consolidate beats
11/04/2012 10:35:00 AM
Still getting a paycheck . . . . .
thought so
How is 012/013 a bad thing for both districts. So no more 2nd watch or summer furlough for some at least your not in a shit district.
Imagine...
The southernmost point of 012 if memory serves right is the east side of Ashland at approx. 2800 or 2900 S. at the north bank of the Sanitary & Ship Canal/Chicago River...
Feeling sorry for the last car up that has to respond to Kedzie & Division.
During afternoon rush hour...
That's about seven miles with no easy way to do it.
Are they still talking about 014 giving up it's southern border?
Meaning the new 012 could go as far north as North Ave?
This is the shit that happens when the people in charge spout nonsense like "most Police per capita.
Hey Pussy! Throw Pontecore 's name out there but your such a coward you hide here. He has a very very open door policy! Just approach him and tell him you think he toots his horn too much....
Yeah! I didn't think so. Bitch
025 the "new" 013??? DAMN all the bad Ju-Ju there already & now being called 013?!?!?!
what are they going to rename 016?
all this talk about renumbering districts.....is the number important?
how about some hypotheticals?
1) every year in November, the city opens up each District, allows officers to bid for a district; city retains a 50/50 distribution (50 bid/50 management; hey, hey, to those who like to travel);
2) watch bids go from 80/20 to 50/50 (a little spunk for the old farts on days)...
3) new limits on the medical roll....only one year total, maybe? (or 1 year every ten years?)
4) limited duty restrictions, then off onto disability (with new restrictions as to outside income limits, fraud prosecutions as warranted)
5) pensions?....hah! work longer for a minimum pension, contribute more of a %....
6) hell, if Obama wins, some cities may go bankrupt anyway (along with the feds).....making all of the above somewhat irrelevant
Pontecore will not be the Commander, he toots his own horn to much, Lt Murphy from the building will be the new commander.
I pray to god you are kidding / wrong....she is exactly whats wrong with this dept.....shes vindicitive, stupid, coniving to name a few....I mean she would fit right in, but holy shit would it be a step in the wrong direction
I had a routine colonoscopy a few years back as did my husband (both cpd) and it was paid for by our coverage. It was recommended by our doctor as a baseline for future comparison
Plans are changing, even medicare because they are:
1. Getting people used to more cost if test or procedure is just for wellness
2. Getting people used to less care
3. Getting people used to testing to prolong life a BAD and useless thing.
Anonymous said...
No more clout baby's getting what they want in 012. Ha ha
11/04/2012 01:48:00 PM
How bout it!!Theres a whole army of SUCKASSES on 3rd watch that have been taken care of for years.When there old MASTER still worked there(Sgt Flintstone)they ran errands for him,fetched him lunch,bought him 20$ cigars,washed his car,drove his girlfriend all over the city(down on station assignment}.Some even went up to Rogers Park to pick up items from his side gig and deliver them to Bridgeport....Now that Sgt Flintstone has been retired for a bit,the suckasses still get taken care of,while producing zilch.Workers get treated like shit and the shameless slaves do their little dance routines for any supervisor that pets them on the head.If some new boss from 013 inherits this circus and plays his cards right,he just got a major pay raise.Oh yeah.....the Xmas card envelopes are always very thick.
Bring back Flash and Floyd to the new 12th district.
Pontecore will not be the Commander, he toots his own horn to much, Lt Murphy from the building will be the new commander.
11/04/2012 11:20:00 AM
LOL
Be quiet
Estimated Populations in Consolidated Districts
002 50,957
021 78,111
TOTAL: 129,068
012 69,677
013 60,517
TOTAL: 130,194
019 107,516
023 98,391
TOTAL: 205,907
Populations of districts range from approximately 25,000 (001) to 245,000 (008).
Pontecore will not be the Commander, he toots his own horn to much, Lt Murphy from the building will be the new commander.
Pontecore WILL get it, he told the 1st Deputy that it's his, so it will be.
I spoke to an old timer friend of mine and he said that there were less districts when he got hired in like 1964. The population has declined a bit and back to 22 or 23 districts might not be too ba d EXCEPT these geniuses we work for will decide that these new big districts don't need 350 or 400 po's. So, they'll let attrition thin the herd some more, all the new recruits will go to areas where there are no people living but tons of crime. no one lives in Englewood but they have more cops than 2 north side districts. These areas require tons of tax money to survive because no one works and pay taxes there.
012th dist guy,
I don't have much hair on my head but when we merge my seniority will drop and ill probably lose more hair.
mh
OT. Thanks to that retired poster about Colonoscopy, you saved me and my wife $10,000.00. We had ours scheduled but after reading his post my wife called Ben Mgmt and found out that if it was just "routine" there would be no coverage. You have to have a "diagnostic" problem for Rahm to pay for it! WTF, isn't that what Med professionals advise for people over 50! Something stinks! And it ain't the Colonoscopy tube!
11/02/2012 09:11:00 PM
I used to work for BCBS. Even though its routine, if you tell the dr you have been having stomach issues or something along that line, the diagnosis code will reflect that and the claim will be paid. Also, to the poster who had trouble reaching someone on the phone, people would sometimes show up at the building, 300 E Randolph and someone would have to come down and address their concerns.
It seems that the new location is disproportionately out of place. One would think that it would be geographically centered. The Yuppies on the fast Northwest end of 013 are going to throw a fit when they have to drive to 14th and Racine.
might as well make mary sarlitto the commander of something. if yer gonna fuck it up ya maght as well go all out.
The population of 012 is easily double that when you count all the illegals in Pilsen.....
R.I.P to the CPD culture.
The parking lot for the new 012/013 station is only a stones throw from one of the seven story "project" buildings in the CHA "Abla" homes. Once again the city using usleless land and thinking of it's employees. Oh ya, only one bus route, (Blueisland/18th rte.), to get there unless you take Ashland or Rossevelt buses and walk through the village, (Abla). Thinking of the people once again.
So, many here don't like ObamaCare, but it requires this test to be free, unless, one's (like CPD's) health plan is grandfathered.
11/04/2012 01:30:00 PM
See how many come here from Europe and Canada and keep telling me Government health care is a good thing. You'll be waiting 2 years for that colonoscopy. Gotta get all the illegals and bustouts in for theirs so we can pay for their longer life.
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me why the city puts the district designator under the main entrance to police station as "District 12?" I notice that they did this at all new station. Why not "12th Distric?" That is how we refer to them
11/04/2012 06:45:00 AM
I have wondered the same thing.
Congratulations to Capt. T.L. on getting 012. Just heard about it. Good luck; great place to work. Just treat the troops right!
rosco said...
So how long before ciizens just do buglary reports on city website?
11/04/2012 12:56:00 PM
As a det., I don't agree with it, but it would make my life a lot easier.
Sergio Navez said...
I call on all to keep your old designators on. I will not change mine. Fuck this department and I'm going to eat on wells anyone care to join ?
11/04/2012 01:45:00 PM
Yeah, that'll show 'em. Goof!
Anonymous said...
025 the "new" 013??? DAMN all the bad Ju-Ju there already & now being called 013?!?!?!
what are they going to rename 016?
11/04/2012 05:16:00 PM
Fucked.
2 Districts, HALF the bosses?
Excellent.
2 Districts, THREE TIMES the bosses.
So how long before ciizens just do buglary reports on city website?
They will be instructed to take photos of the scene and upload them with the online report.
As for fingerprinting, the city has cut a deal with Amazon. You will be able to order your own kit soon. I also hear you will get a discount if you put in your RD # where the coupon code goes.
Anonymous said...
Hey Pussy! Throw Pontecore 's name out there but your such a coward you hide here. He has a very very open door policy! Just approach him and tell him you think he toots his horn too much....
Yeah! I didn't think so. Bitch
11/04/2012 05:15:00 PM
Lighten up little Ronnie!!! You have been on edge since the Bears are doing better than your fudge packers. You are over reacting as usual. Have patience (as if it was possible for you) the packers are a better team. If that doesn't work you can yell and swear and strut around like you are the shit, of course I don't have to tell you that - it's your "go to" global solution. BTW You look so macho with that 70's mustache, very intimidating. You are one bad dude!
It seems that the new location is disproportionately out of place. One would think that it would be geographically centered. The Yuppies on the fast Northwest end of 013 are going to throw a fit when they have to drive to 14th and Racine.
Why drive when you can call and DEMAND the police respond to your location.
I don't care what McDrunken says, nothing will change at 911. Do you honestly think Rahm and the 50 thieves will allow their voters to become upset?
So, many here don't like ObamaCare, but it requires this test to be free, unless, one's (like CPD's) health plan is grandfathered.
BUT, if there are some changes to CPD's plan in the future, it may be required to be free. See:
http://www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/2010/06/keeping-the-health-plan-you-have-grandfathered.html .
11/04/2012 01:30:00 PM
NOTHING is FREE! Why is this so hard for liberals to understand, why in fact so hard for otherwise intelligent people locked into the Chicago machine way to understand? Someone is paying for the colonoscopy...either through higher taxes, shifted benefits, cuts in other services, etc. It's fine to negotiate for the BENEFIT and expect it to be part of your plan with the understanding SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR IT, but it is not and never will be free. This is what the dem's use to make you believe their bullshit. Obamacare is a big steaming pile of shit designed to bankrupt insurance and move the nation to single payer socialized medicine, I can't believe anyone defends this fucking montstrosity of statist garbage.
Hope you are still smiling when Chicago decides its much cheaper to just pay the penalties and drop your dumb ass into the gub'mints exchanges. On the bright side you can schedule your doc appointments a year ahead then like furloughs, since it will take that long to get seen.
Smile nicely and bow when your gracious Dear Leader hands you scraps.
019- its a cluster fuck from day one, time due is being denied more now than before the two districts combined even though theres 390 officers. Officers being split up to work different cars to fill vacant spots due to many mission/specialty cars created to justify the amount of assigned POs. Welcome to the circus.
Anonymous said........................ BTW You look so macho with that 70's mustache, very intimidating. You are one bad dude!
11/05/2012 07:12:00 AM
Like one of The Village People!
The new 12/13 will have how many beats? It will not be 18 that is for sure. I guess 12 beats so they will be over staffed and will have to send low seniority officers to 7, 3,4, or 5 wonderful Area South.it could be ugly amounts of travel time for North Siders with low seniority
where is the union havent seen them since elections,collect that check is the chicago way..
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me why the city puts the district designator under the main entrance to police station as "District 12?" I notice that they did this at all new station. Why not "12th Distric?" That is how we refer to them
11/04/2012 06:45:00 AM
I have wondered the same thing.
11/05/2012 06:31:00 AM
they ran out of t's and h's.
So Junior who works in 012 now and lives at Touhy and Harlem will work 3rd Watch in 005. Too fuckin bad Sport. Move south. BAWAHAHAHAHA!
Capt TL in 012? Who is it?
Are they still talking about 014 giving up it's southern border?
Meaning the new 012 could go as far north as North Ave?
13 used to go up to north ave back in the day and south to 290... back then they were on 2 radio zones. dont be surprised if this happens again seeing how they can't seem to get the geocode right for the new "zone" they ar trying to get up and running for the december 5th move....... good luck to all the yup's
"No more clout baby's getting what they want in 012. Ha ha"
I've never worked in 12 and never had any clout.
YOU are a tiny, tiny, jealous little man.
"Now the old 19 which became 23 is 19 once again."
We just continue to recycle the same, old, bad ideas.
Take CAPS, for example.
Old-style policing with a new name & a few bad concepts added.
"Why drive when you can call and DEMAND the police respond to your location."
That 2 hour wait will cut down on reported crime!
"NOTHING is FREE! Why is this so hard for liberals to understand, why in fact so hard for otherwise intelligent people locked into the Chicago machine way to understand?"
Because in so many cases, those Chicago machine beneficiaries AREN'T the ones paying for it, directly or indirectly.
To the person suggesting Mary Sarlito becoming C/O of anything, please watch what U write. Stephen King couldn't place a more horrifying image in my head. She ruined the 018th District. There's a Prada in Near North to which one can only assume Sarlito wears it.
CrookCountyJustice said...
So, many here don't like ObamaCare, but it requires this test to be free, unless, one's (like CPD's) health plan is grandfathered.
BUT, if there are some changes to CPD's plan in the future, it may be required to be free. See:
http://www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/2010/06/keeping-the-health-plan-you-have-grandfathered.html .
11/04/2012 01:30:00 PM
NOTHING is FREE! Why is this so hard for liberals to understand, why in fact so hard for otherwise intelligent people locked into the Chicago machine way to understand? Someone is paying for the colonoscopy...either through higher taxes, shifted benefits, cuts in other services, etc. It's fine to negotiate for the BENEFIT and expect it to be part of your plan with the understanding SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR IT, but it is not and never will be free. This is what the dem's use to make you believe their bullshit. Obamacare is a big steaming pile of shit designed to bankrupt insurance and move the nation to single payer socialized medicine, I can't believe anyone defends this fucking montstrosity of statist garbage.
Hope you are still smiling when Chicago decides its much cheaper to just pay the penalties and drop your dumb ass into the gub'mints exchanges. On the bright side you can schedule your doc appointments a year ahead then like furloughs, since it will take that long to get seen.
Smile nicely and bow when your gracious Dear Leader hands you scraps.
11/05/2012 08:37:00 AM
The straight party-line Democratic voters will NEVER get it. Never.
Well-said.
"...usual May furlough...my seniority is going to take a hit..."
Why don't you leave the land of Starbucks and work in the real part of town? You can get a July furlough and a locker too!
North siders-----Never cease to amaze nor dissapoint.
The mess with the signs the same reason a lot of senior and day care centers spell it "centre".
Because they can.
"...it could be a lot of travel time for North side officers..."
But it would be a world of good police experience which a lot of officers are lacking in.
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