Parade Fines
- After being “hijacked by idiots” who drank themselves silly, as the local alderman put it, the South Side Irish Parade made a family-oriented comeback last March.
Ald. Matt O’Shea (19th) wants to make certain there’s no going back to the bad old days.
At Wednesday’s City Council meeting, O’Shea introduced an ordinance that would throw the book at those caught drinking on the public way within 200 feet of a parade in progress.
The minimum fine for adults would increase five-fold — from $100 to $500. The maximum fine would double — from $500 to $1,000. The alternative to the higher fines would be up to six months in jail.
Adults who relieve themselves in public within 200 feet of a parade in progress would face similar fines and anywhere from five to 10 days behind bars.
Minors caught drinking in the shadows of a parade would be slapped with $500 fines or required to perform 25 hours of community service.
So....is this enforcement exclusive to the South Side Irish Parade? Because without a doubt, this would make Beverly and Mount Greenwood streets among the cleanest in the nation.
And with evenhanded enforcement, Bronzeville, Washington Park and Humboldt Park could end up being spotless for the first time since the turn of last century, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
55 Comments:
Try doing this shit at Bud Billiken or the PR parade.
Cool! Welp there goes the attendance at all the downtown fests too!
Let's get it done so the first real test will be any Obama wins celebrations.
Sorry OT
Talking about buying guns out of the county. I would not buy from the stuck up egos at Ray's. They are really rude if you are not a cute girl or a CPD boss. If you are a regular guy they act like they don't need you. And that is even when you got the check book out. f that. I don't think that is good business manners. Too many people kiss their ass. GAT in Dundee gives a LE discounts.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Can't do it just for SSI parade.
Way to go alderslut. After invoking heavy fines against people who drink at your parade, you can champion for stiffer penaltys for u.u.w., etc. instead of probation after probation and suspended sentences.
You are some kind of an idiot, possibly a democrat.
oh don't you forget the gay pride parade...a public drunken orgy
Not to mention the downtown routes for the St. Patrick's Day and Columbus Day parades--along with Boystown for Gay Pride. Why not put in speed cameras to see how fast people are drinking on the street? That will protect the children!
And of course this would be equally enforced with the
BUD BILIKIN PARADE...
...and Cinque da Mayo...
iam sure this will only apply in nice neiborhoods, to white people, just like every other tax and ticket in cook county... I have never seen a meter maid writting tickets on the westside, yet i alway see them by my house.... who pays anov's... etc
ARREST ME... tell all your southside buddies.... better off spending 3 hours in lock-up for a DOPW that will get tossed at court, in fact do NOT show up to court, cause they are not gonna issue a warrant.... 3 hrs in lock up is much better then paying a $1,000.00
I gotta see this enforced at Billiken, or at Homosexual Pride.
They are EXTREMELY careful how they point a TV camera at these affairs. Coitus on hoods of cars, etc.
It's an art. Keep in mind that these are the same people who can cover the Von Steuben Day Parade without once using the word "German."
Great make it for "all" parades in chicago.
The ordinance will never pass.
It would have to be a citywide ordinance, which would be invoked at every parade.
TRY TELLING POLICE TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK AT OTHER PARADES,AFTER A RELATIVE PAYS A $500 FINE.
Sure things sometimes get out of hand at parades,and a $100 fine sends a fine message, which seems to be working.
But parades still have to be looked at as celebrations,and this would give to far a negative impact.
WONT HAPPEN.
Well, at least it's a step toward rational control. Think of the county's attempt to "control" gun violence by taxing law abiding gun owners. Here, at least, there's an attempt to actually do something to solve the problem.
Gotta love Chicago!
Uh, I thought it was ilegal to piss near the parade already. You wanna raise the fines, go ahead. Don't hurt yourself patting your self on the back.
And who exactly is going to be in charge of enforcement? CPD or Revenue? HAHAHAHA! Do you really think any copper would write this shit?
Say you don't have any i.d., give your 'play' street name of 'Daneesha' or 'Darnell' 'Miller' and you're all good.
Pick out some west side address from the internet beforehand and use that.
No worries! Or even better, if you have any enemies, use THEIR name!
How about Darneesha or Darnell McTutu?
Give the mayor's address, or any one on his block.
The possibilities are endless!
Higher fines and punishment in "selected" areas of the city? This sounds like lawsuit in the making. I need some money for kids college fund, I think I'll piss on the street, get arrested and sue the city. I may even hire terry ekl to represent me!!
What about all of the Neighborhood Summer Music Festivals (drunk-athons)--people are as drunk as skunks but have their small children and dogs with them.
All the trouble is with folks from the suburbs.
They issue DOPW warrants all the time, they usually don't issue cannabis warrants.
So O'Shea concentrates his efforts on stopping drinking at the SSI Parade but nothing is being done about the gang funerals going through Beverly and Mt Greenwood to Mt Hope cemetary where numerous gun pinches have been made. So let me get this right: you can find a way to stop a multi billion dollar company like Chick-fil-a from opening in Chicago, but you cant stop some gang bangers from driving through residential neighborhoods shooting guns in the air and making racially motivated threats against white citizens. Thanks O'Shea
Ok hopefully this move is also followed and enforced at the bud bilikin parade, mexican parade, and puerto rican parade...
If they are drunk then I believe you cannot give them an ANOV... You must make the arrest
A corp counsel has to prosecute them first. That's why all city cases get thrown out and no fines collected. Everything gets thrown out of court all the time.
wauuuuugh wauuuuuugh dey keep fucking wit de irish!!!!
UH, arent there already laws on the books about public unrination and drinking? Lets just get a directive that they are enforced equally and with more numbers this coming year, period.
Oh yeah, and hire more police so this can be done.
There's little doubt that the City will want only selective enforcement on this. They're worried about hurting the feelings of minorities or special interest groups.
I'm counting down the time till I can pull the pin and get far, far away from this shithole!
If its not for all parades, then its racism
Dealt with Gat Guns before.... Good people/service
Here we go with the Billiken and PR Fest comparisons.
Again, nobody at those shit hole events care that some jagoff is drinking or pissing in front of everybody.
Enough with these bullshit comparisons. We care about the neighborhood. Are you that fucked up in the head that you think you should be able to act like a shithead because somebody else does?
Hasn't that been the downfall of all of these "communities"?
To: "I would not buy from the stuck up egos at Ray's."
I am neither a cute girl or a CPD boss. Just an old guy with a pleasent smile and attitude so I never had a problem there. Ease up and stay safe.
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Matt O'S missed the point in my opinion.
1. There are already laws on the books to cover these actions...just few po's who know about them and act accordingly.
2. Why is a "Parade route" more important than the neighboring residential homes in the community?
In years past (I live within 4 blocks of parade route addressed)
I always recall young people falling, puking, urinating, and causing a general nuisance outside my home windows after the parade.
Always !!! one or two every year.
Is my home or is my family less than parade importance?
Thanks Matt O'S.
Once again it's all about the $$$$$
fine everyone !
The Only reason that parade is wanted back is that the City Hall Politicos got nice kickbacks from the local bars, who rake in a fortune from this, ala a 1 Day Marti Gras. And why arent there Way more DUI arrests there every year too. I suppose all those thousands of party'rs all walk there and then home. Yeah, right.
The Only reason that parade is wanted back is that the City Hall Politicos got nice kickbacks from the local bars, who rake in a fortune from this, ala a 1 Day Marti Gras. And why arent there Way more DUI arrests there every year too. I suppose all those thousands of party'rs all walk there and then home. Yeah, right.
"So let me get this right: you can find a way to stop a multi billion dollar company like Chick-fil-a from opening in Chicago, but you can't stop some gang bangers from driving through residential neighborhoods shooting guns in the air and making racially motivated threats against white citizens."
--11/02/2012 08:14:00 AM
"We're driving fast
"From a dream of the past
"To the brave new world
"Where nothing will last
"That comes from the past
"It's a brave new world"
--Brave New World, Steve Miller Band
"[Ray's] are really rude if you are not a cute girl or a CPD boss. If you are a regular guy they act like they don't need you. And that is even when you got the check book out."
--11/02/2012 12:15:00 AM
Customer - "This is a factory-new rifle, right?"
Shore Galleries clerk - "............"
Customer - "Can I..."
Shore Galleries clerk - "NO! You can scratch it up after you buy it!"
004th Dist officer a.k.a Jabba the Hut says...
Good it's about time they bust all dem white devil people akin a fool on da street and drinking. Wait...... Isn't this a daily normal life in the black ghettos? Lol, dumb ass politicians should continue to pick their nose cause they sure come up with some stupid shit!!!
OT: Wtf last week my mother in law gets in an accident and when I asked my son ,who had been with her ,if the police and fire were nice he tells me no. He said they were very short with his grandmother who was shook up from the accident. He said they acted if they were bothering them . I called to see what was going on and they kept making him hang up. They were taking her to the hospital would it have been so fucken difficult to take two min for my son to let me know what was going on. Then they left her car at lake and Laramie unsecured (no she wasn't buying dope my son goes to school in Oak Park Lake streets light on the traffic in the morning) . How embarrassing for this to be one of my sons experience with the cpd! Now last night some pos working out of 61rst and Racine hits my fucken car and doesn't say anything. So nice to come back to your car after a tour to find a nice big scratch with white paint on your car! Really you knew it was another coppers car but your going to act like a bitch and just take off. No wonder people think so highly of the CPD.. I'm not promoting warm and fuzzy if you act like an asshole you get treated like an asshole. But whenever I find myself acting like a dick with someone I stop myself and say is this how I would want my family treated. Maybe more of us should do this
worked the ssi one year there was one fight and it was a m-1..
but the alderman of respective wards would have to want same said penalties. Ordinances are by ward.... read the law
Why not bring back the debate about foie gra (sp) while they are distracting the residents of the city with this nonsense it is all nonsense just to keep us from focusing on the real problems that face hard working people.
GAT is good to go. Way better ammo prices than Ray's or Shores.
Gun stores -- what ever happened to the Marksman up in Glenview? They were real gentlemen there, very nice. Anyone?
Enough with these bullshit comparisons. We care about the neighborhood. Are you that fucked up in the head that you think you should be able to act like a shithead because somebody else does?
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I didn't read even one comment that even remotely suggested 'you should be able to act like a shithead because somebody else does'.
Most if not all, referred to equal enforcement.
You're the one who's fucked up in the head.
Asshat.
But whenever I find myself acting like a dick with someone I stop myself and say is this how I would want my family treated. Maybe more of us should do this
11/02/2012 03:04:00 PM
I know you're aggravated, and I agree with you. But maybe more of us should stop airing our private grievances re: your fellow officers on a public blog?
mcnutty might go down their and embarrass him self,so no parade!!
Anonymous said...
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Can't do it just for SSI parade.
11/02/2012 12:26:00 AM
This city has a lot of SSI parades.
The westside 'back to school' parades come to mind.....\sarcasm
Anonymous said...
Gun stores -- what ever happened to the Marksman up in Glenview? They were real gentlemen there, very nice. Anyone?
11/02/2012 05:18:00 PM
Out of business after more draconian gun ordinances were enacted in the wake of the Laurie Dann school shooting in Winnetka. Laurie Dann bought her gun at The Marksman hence the North Shore people figured The Marksman was the real evil and out of business it went. No one ever lifted a finger to prevent nutcase Laurie Dann from purchasing a gun in spite of her mental state.
Anonymous said...
OT: Wtf last week my mother in law gets in an accident and when I asked my son ,who had been with her ,if the police and fire were nice he tells me no. He said they were very short with his grandmother who was shook up from the accident. He said they acted if they were bothering them . I called to see what was going on and they kept making him hang up. They were taking her to the hospital would it have been so fucken difficult to take two min for my son to let me know what was going on. Then they left her car at lake and Laramie unsecured (no she wasn't buying dope my son goes to school in Oak Park Lake streets light on the traffic in the morning) . How embarrassing for this to be one of my sons experience with the cpd! Now last night some pos working out of 61rst and Racine hits my fucken car and doesn't say anything. So nice to come back to your car after a tour to find a nice big scratch with white paint on your car! Really you knew it was another coppers car but your going to act like a bitch and just take off. No wonder people think so highly of the CPD.. I'm not promoting warm and fuzzy if you act like an asshole you get treated like an asshole. But whenever I find myself acting like a dick with someone I stop myself and say is this how I would want my family treated. Maybe more of us should do this
11/02/2012 03:04:00 PM
All of the dins and dangs and scratches and knee dents on my car were put there in police parking lots. Get used to it. Drive junk cars or junk pickup trucks to work. No good cars. I found a dent in the roof, some shitbag pounded his fist on the roof apparently. That's what you get for working at an area with shitbags going to a branch court.
Leave the good car at home so you can travel to DuPage or Lake County to go shopping so to avoid Cook County tax.
Did anyone get a look at the tax Prenkwinkle wants to pass on anything over $1,000 or so bought outside of Cook County? Think that is meant for the LINK Card crowd?
I didn't read even one comment that even remotely suggested 'you should be able to act like a shithead because somebody else does'.
Most if not all, referred to equal enforcement.
You're the one who's fucked up in the head.
Asshat.
Hey, Paddy McDaniels. Do you live where the bud billiken parade takes place? Probably not. So if the jags that live there don't care if someone is drinking or pissing in the street why should you? You want to work your RDO and go there and try to make a difference? Knock yourself out. Nobody will care. In fact you will be looked upon with hate by these fuckers.
Who cares about "equal enforcement"? If they don't care you shouldn't. Worry about the people who give a shit about their neighborhood.
Stop being that clown on parade day that thinks he should be able to act like a piece of shit because "others" do.
YOU sound like the asshat.
Anonymous said...
OT: Wtf last week my mother in law gets in an accident and when I asked my son ,who had been with her ,if the police and fire were nice he tells me no. He said they were very short with his grandmother who was shook up from the accident. He said they acted if they were bothering them . I called to see what was going on and they kept making him hang up. They were taking her to the hospital would it have been so fucken difficult to take two min for my son to let me know what was going on. Then they left her car at lake and Laramie unsecured (no she wasn't buying dope my son goes to school in Oak Park Lake streets light on the traffic in the morning) . How embarrassing for this to be one of my sons experience with the cpd! Now last night some pos working out of 61rst and Racine hits my fucken car and doesn't say anything. So nice to come back to your car after a tour to find a nice big scratch with white paint on your car! Really you knew it was another coppers car but your going to act like a bitch and just take off. No wonder people think so highly of the CPD.. I'm not promoting warm and fuzzy if you act like an asshole you get treated like an asshole. But whenever I find myself acting like a dick with someone I stop myself and say is this how I would want my family treated. Maybe more of us should do this
11/02/2012 03:04:00 PM
Instead of airing your dirty laundry on a blog, talk to the officers involved to obtain both sides. If you are the police there are 3 sides to every story. Man up and tlak to the beat officers who handled the traffic crash first.
I know you're aggravated, and I agree with you. But maybe more of us should stop airing our private grievances re: your fellow officers on a public blog?
11/02/2012 05:59:00 PM
Really?!?! Of all the inappropriate things posted on this blog this is what you take issue with!
mcnutty the legend in his own mind can do the work of 5000 cops and with leo,make that 5001.
Instead of airing your dirty laundry on a blog, talk to the officers involved to obtain both sides. If you are the police there are 3 sides to every story. Man up and tlak to the beat officers who handled the traffic crash first.
Wow where to begin. First this blog probably wouldn't be so popular if it wasn't filled with people airing dirty laundry. Quite honestly I don't even think this constitutes dirty laundry. So lets get off that high horse shall we.
Second I didn't name names I was venting. I was hoping it might make someone think before they act in a similar manner. There are still a lot of good citizens out there who deserve our help. We should be making them our friends not our enemies. I might of even hoped a tiny bit that the guy read it and maybe felt bad for a half second. I know wishfull thinking.
Third just what would tracking down that officer accomplish. Should I go and tell him not to be a meanie anymore? Punch him in the face ? What? I don't need his side. I'm not getting a freakin CR. I've seen coppers act that way before . Ashamed to say done it myself before. What would be my sons point in making that up what would he gain. He didn't say he beat him he said he acted put out ,not such stretch to believe. Nobody is thrilled to do accident reports.
Finally to Mr. Don't drive a good car - I don't! Not the point if I hit a nice car or a shitty car in the lot I'd let that person know.
Ok I'm done retiring my soap box.
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